This thumbnail bummed me out...my Wabi classic was stolen yesterday. Thank you for all of the videos! I can't wait until Wabi gets bikes back in stock.
Hey, just wanted to say I'm really sorry that happened to you and your bike. I've had two bikes stolen over the years. I like to think there's a special place in Hell for bike thieves (endless ride, no saddle, random pike up the seat tube).
Man, sorry to hear your bike was stolen. I had a 1974 Schwinn Super Le Tour stolen in high school. It was a beauty. I still think of that bike and how I miss it. It was stolen in 1988. Bike thieves are today's horse thieves of old. I hope you find it.
I agree, the only sound I accept to hear is the wind in my hair while riding, but I doubt that Nitto produces handlebars that are guaranteed to ‘creak’. I think it might be a rare quality issue in Zach’s case.
@Bebo the two piece bar is a big reason too I would think. Seems like a nonsensical design. It is essentially a sealed clamp within a bolted clamp, guaranteed noise eventually.
@@jaspervanestelfeen2173 Creaking is unfortunately something that happens often with bars that have a sleeved clamp area like that, bars with a bulge instead don’t creak
@Bebo “all” of your Nitto bars aren’t two piece as they make almost exclusively one piece bars. Anyway Dude, you’re a champ lol. I’ve seen your comments all over his vids explaining how great you are. Good for you man, you rock.
not going to lie. I was completely inspired by Zachs Wabi special for years. I also own a 58cm wabi special, copper colour. I bought the 42cm Nitto Noodle at first, and first ride knew I made a mistake. I then bought the 48cm Nitto Noodle, and after the first ride knew right away these bars were perfect. I couldnt be more happier. The 48 cm Nitto Noodle is amazing.
Love these style of videos − for me (a 22 year old asthmatic rider) I prefer narrower drop bars. Fit is the most important things and being inline with my shoulders means my upper body doesnt suffer on 100+ mile rides (especially with 2+ miles of elevation, going downhill with wide drops and a backpack killed my shoulders). But that's just me, for anyone who is reading. The rest I agree with 😂
Got Nitto B307AA instead of risers and use them upwards as my city riding doesn't require too much aero. So much more comfortable than risers! mainly for wrist position and for several hand positions. And clamp is bulged so if it will start creaking I'll know it's a stem or something, but not handlebars.
I've been riding fixed for 13 years but had an accident(not cycling related) and can't ride brakeless anymore. I've been looking for a new set of bars and always rock Nittos. Gonna keep these in mind.
@@larsgroting4673 I broke my foot in like 10 places and half of my left foot is made of metal now(sick robot foot). The doctors said it would heal 100% but I somehow got stuck at 95% and it hasn't gotten better over the last 6 months. Riding is fine but skidding is painful. I sold my Vivalo right after the accident because I thought I would never ride again(and had to pay for stuff with no job). Maybe someday the pain will go away and I'll be able to rock brakeless. Who knows. I'm just happy to be riding again.
I've used Soma Major Taylor bars for almost 20 years. Only two hand positions (tops at the stem and in the drops), really deep drop. But damn they look cool. And that's what it's all about.
I have the Noodles too per your recommendation in an earlier vid. Absolutely love them. I've used the Nitto B123 and B105, but that M177 is the best imo. I have a 40cm though because I'm only 5'6 on a 46cm Big Block.
@MJ Amaya The Big Blocks have abnormally long top tubes so people usually size down. I could have fit a 49 too but a 46 fit me fine because of my oompa loompa legs.
@@davidramio hi! di you go for the 42 over the 40? I am this exact concern right now haha im 5'6" as well. my previous handle bar on a gravel bike was 40cm.
I’ve been using the Deda Zero100 Deep on my fixed gear. I love the long flat part in the drops and the amour of drop it has. The only downside are the dented guides for the brake/shift cables but you can fix this with a piece of empty guides.
Love the Noodles - have 44s on a couple bikes and a pair of 46s I’m going to put on my Rivendell Sam Hillborne in the next couple weeks. Also, that bike is currently sporting upright Nitto-made Rivendell designed Bosco bars. They have a sleeve and yes, it creaks when I’m out on the 58cm (!) ends of the bars. Nothing I can do about it. 🤦♂️
I have a nitto for shred bar 750mm (exclusive by BLUE LUG) on my surly steamroller, considering getting the dropbars like yours for my other bike (currently using pursuits/bullhorns). i’ve never really been a fan of dropbars, always preferring pursuiots/bullhorns, but you kinda sold me on these, and with my own experience of of the nitto shred bar i know the quality is good. hopefully i find it comfortable
Awesome bars. Thanks for the link. I ordered a set for myself. Now if only Wabi would get some inventory in so I don't keep purchasing bikes from State Bicycle Company.
QUIESTION BRO do you reverse your handle bar tape on the top portion of your handle bars? i know they do this with road bikes so you can grip the tape in the right direction but no brake on track bikes lol
Is it possible to slide a pair of regular brake lever and shifter thru a drop bar (if we assumed that the dimeter is the good size.22.5 mm in my case)? So they will be in the center.
I have been using the 3T COMPETIZIONE and the SR SAKAE SPECIAL and are pretty comfortabler pretty recommended 😋👌 I have a question Zack, if I can ride my bike brake less, I also can drive my car drive less?, I can gear reverse in order to stop the car 😎👌 I been thinking that seriously, what you recommend? 🤔
1:40 I dunno man, IMO, the tops position on aero bars is more comfortable 'cause of the bigger flatter area to put your palms on, Creaking is hell though, I live in a hilly area, so I climb and skid alot, if my bars started squeaking and creaking ,I'd just saw them into pieces and get new quiet ones...
@@sonymicronin I used to be a roadbiker for a few years. I have two kinds of drop bars and don't feel comfortable riding them without brake/shifter levers. Bullhorns and pursuit bars are my favorite.
The best drops for me have turned out to be a 47mm dirt drops with 7 degree flare from Redshift. It's called the Kitchensink bar if anyone cares to know. it is counterintuitive(make that counter zach's opinion) but very practical for commuter nomadic speed or fixie fools alike. Totally revolutionized my cockpit. My bike feels like a spaceship.
Please do not order a Nitto 177, at least until I clear the waitlist and get one for my current project. My other go to bar is Cinelli 66 for bikes with brakes, in silver. I’ve tried compacts and other shapes, after a couple months I keep getting the 66s out of the parts bin. 66 has that nice deep drop so getting in the drops is different from being on the hoods or top, I don’t like being in one position the whole ride. Also the flats on the drops are big enough for the whole hand ,same as the 177. My pinkie finger is flopping in the breeze riding drops of ergo or compact bars.
Tbh I was a little disappointed when I clicked on your affiliate link, Amazon doesn't even let you change the size you want the handle bar to be, like how hard can that be, been searching a little while now for them but they are really expensive and there seems to be no alternative that has similar specifications them
Nihon Jitensha Shinkoukai NJS disbanded like a decade ago. It's the JKA (Japan Keirin Autorace) now that oversees bicycle and car racing, but the spec'd components are still branded with NJS in homage to that tradition. NJS was never meant to be top of the line, it was meant to keep the bikes within a tolerance standard so that no racer would have an advantage over the other. By modern standards NJS is pretty low tech, but that said, shit still rips
As a messenger in jakarta, i scared to riding brakeless when i use riserbar.. just one hand position (well, maybe 3 if u creative enough) then i switched to dropbars. First dropbar, Uno compact dropb, double butted 400mm, so, so light! But not wide enough. Currently i using cinelli vai 420mm bar.. shallow drops for my not flexible body, and also i am bike mess, putting tons of packages on my shoulders. Cheers!
@Bebo I have a life and better things to do than taking notes of bikes from YT videos so I can remember them and justify myself to a random commenter who seems to have no taste or fun in his existence, sorry not sorry lmao
I Have been riding fixed gear since 1977. I resent anyone who condones the dangerous practice of riding a fixed gear on the road. Secondly: Those bars suck. They go too far forward.. Any time you get off of the saddle, your forearms will hit the curve.
Zach, I do like your stuff and think you’ve done a fabulous job but I will say you’re in danger of becoming a niche within a niche. You seem to falling down your NJS wormhole again. It’s a much bigger fixed gear world than just Japan. They are arguably ‘the standard’ but your fanboyness is a disservice to the fixed community. I know you’re trying to seem more diverse and inclusive… try harder lol.
But NJS parts are NJS parts, it's ok fixed gear is bigger than that, but if you want something original, nice, and overall good quality NJS is the perfect option, you will not make a mistake with that option 😎👌
@@carlostrejo9558 except for the fact he just featured a product that he said is “guaranteed to creak” which I would argue is ‘a mistake’ to purchase. I am an NJS fan, and believe in the fact they are ‘the standard’, but I do not exclusively buy NJS simply because it’s NJS, this is an example of that imo and kind of crazy to rave about a product and then throw in the afterthought that it will do the one thing most fixed gear riders hate… make noise.
Yay Riv! Nice job on the Skillshare placement.
This thumbnail bummed me out...my Wabi classic was stolen yesterday. Thank you for all of the videos! I can't wait until Wabi gets bikes back in stock.
Hey, just wanted to say I'm really sorry that happened to you and your bike. I've had two bikes stolen over the years. I like to think there's a special place in Hell for bike thieves (endless ride, no saddle, random pike up the seat tube).
Man, sorry to hear your bike was stolen. I had a 1974 Schwinn Super Le Tour stolen in high school. It was a beauty. I still think of that bike and how I miss it. It was stolen in 1988. Bike thieves are today's horse thieves of old. I hope you find it.
Any product that is guaranteed to ‘creak’ is a no go for me. If anything, I’m a noise snob… all I want to hear is my drivetrain. NOTHING else.
Only the tyres.
I agree, the only sound I accept to hear is the wind in my hair while riding, but I doubt that Nitto produces handlebars that are guaranteed to ‘creak’. I think it might be a rare quality issue in Zach’s case.
@Bebo the two piece bar is a big reason too I would think. Seems like a nonsensical design. It is essentially a sealed clamp within a bolted clamp, guaranteed noise eventually.
@@jaspervanestelfeen2173 Creaking is unfortunately something that happens often with bars that have a sleeved clamp area like that, bars with a bulge instead don’t creak
@Bebo “all” of your Nitto bars aren’t two piece as they make almost exclusively one piece bars. Anyway Dude, you’re a champ lol. I’ve seen your comments all over his vids explaining how great you are. Good for you man, you rock.
It's so wonderful to see Zach's perfect bike with perfect drop bars!!!!! So sparkly and proper!
The purple wabi is 💯👌
can't wait for a few yrs to go by and fixie foos to feel comfy rocking riser bars again. Rise for the prize!!
i ride 810mm wide flat bars on my fixed gear
wildly impractical while near cars on the road but very fun
the fgfs community exists
not going to lie. I was completely inspired by Zachs Wabi special for years. I also own a 58cm wabi special, copper colour. I bought the 42cm Nitto Noodle at first, and first ride knew I made a mistake. I then bought the 48cm Nitto Noodle, and after the first ride knew right away these bars were perfect. I couldnt be more happier. The 48 cm Nitto Noodle is amazing.
Wider is always Better especially for drops unless you ride in extremely dense traffic
Love these style of videos − for me (a 22 year old asthmatic rider) I prefer narrower drop bars. Fit is the most important things and being inline with my shoulders means my upper body doesnt suffer on 100+ mile rides (especially with 2+ miles of elevation, going downhill with wide drops and a backpack killed my shoulders). But that's just me, for anyone who is reading. The rest I agree with 😂
Got Nitto B307AA instead of risers and use them upwards as my city riding doesn't require too much aero. So much more comfortable than risers! mainly for wrist position and for several hand positions. And clamp is bulged so if it will start creaking I'll know it's a stem or something, but not handlebars.
I ride nitto Olympiades because they look super slick. They aren't very comfy because you ride low and narrow with then.
Still think it’s a fools errand to ride drop bars on the road brakeless without tandem stoker hoods for control and extra hand position.
Nitto B105, perfect blend of track meets road drop bar
I've been riding fixed for 13 years but had an accident(not cycling related) and can't ride brakeless anymore. I've been looking for a new set of bars and always rock Nittos. Gonna keep these in mind.
Sorry for the question but is it a mental reason or some sort of disability?
@@larsgroting4673 I broke my foot in like 10 places and half of my left foot is made of metal now(sick robot foot). The doctors said it would heal 100% but I somehow got stuck at 95% and it hasn't gotten better over the last 6 months. Riding is fine but skidding is painful. I sold my Vivalo right after the accident because I thought I would never ride again(and had to pay for stuff with no job). Maybe someday the pain will go away and I'll be able to rock brakeless. Who knows. I'm just happy to be riding again.
@Bebo My accident is not cycling related but ok
@Bebo I ride fixed and nothing happened to me.
@@voicelikemanywaters1017 .., he said “riding brakeless” not riding fixed. If you ride brakeless long enough, you’ll understand.
My favorite drop bar is The sim works “so bar” is basically this but at 500mm and comes in black too… if you can find them
I've used Soma Major Taylor bars for almost 20 years. Only two hand positions (tops at the stem and in the drops), really deep drop. But damn they look cool. And that's what it's all about.
I have the Noodles too per your recommendation in an earlier vid. Absolutely love them. I've used the Nitto B123 and B105, but that M177 is the best imo. I have a 40cm though because I'm only 5'6 on a 46cm Big Block.
@MJ Amaya The Big Blocks have abnormally long top tubes so people usually size down. I could have fit a 49 too but a 46 fit me fine because of my oompa loompa legs.
Hey! I’m 5’6 too! How do you like the 40cm noodles? Been thinking about the 42 instead but haven’t decided yet.
@@davidramio hi! di you go for the 42 over the 40? I am this exact concern right now haha im 5'6" as well. my previous handle bar on a gravel bike was 40cm.
@@jkevinAHgot the 40s it is ok, but coming from riding risers could easily go with the 42s to be more comfortable
I’ve been using the Deda Zero100 Deep on my fixed gear. I love the long flat part in the drops and the amour of drop it has. The only downside are the dented guides for the brake/shift cables but you can fix this with a piece of empty guides.
Zach continues to make amazing content
Love the Noodles - have 44s on a couple bikes and a pair of 46s I’m going to put on my Rivendell Sam Hillborne in the next couple weeks. Also, that bike is currently sporting upright Nitto-made Rivendell designed Bosco bars. They have a sleeve and yes, it creaks when I’m out on the 58cm (!) ends of the bars. Nothing I can do about it. 🤦♂️
Ooooh Lordy. This PURPLE bike is worthy of a Prince anthem.
I have a nitto for shred bar 750mm (exclusive by BLUE LUG) on my surly steamroller, considering getting the dropbars like yours for my other bike (currently using pursuits/bullhorns). i’ve never really been a fan of dropbars, always preferring pursuiots/bullhorns, but you kinda sold me on these, and with my own experience of of the nitto shred bar i know the quality is good. hopefully i find it comfortable
Awesome bars. Thanks for the link. I ordered a set for myself. Now if only Wabi would get some inventory in so I don't keep purchasing bikes from State Bicycle Company.
Ritchey gear is always a winner, swear by their gravel bar series for Tracklocross
These bars are great. I however wanna try the redshift kitchen sink bars
These are high on my list if the redshift bars don't work out
Whant to hear you speaking about fixed gear bike with Paul and fab from slow spin society !
✌🏼
Might just be the best dang bars period. Would be nice if other brands took notice so we could see larger diameter versions
QUIESTION BRO do you reverse your handle bar tape on the top portion of your handle bars? i know they do this with road bikes so you can grip the tape in the right direction but no brake on track bikes lol
Nice handlebar but where I can get it? I'd like to have 48cm size but it is out of stock in every shop I have found(((
saturation looking smooth asl
If you are into wide downhill bars try gravel bars
Nitto M106 🥰
what is the length size of the stem you’re running in this build?
Is it possible to slide a pair of regular brake lever and shifter thru a drop bar (if we assumed that the dimeter is the good size.22.5 mm in my case)? So they will be in the center.
Is that the brooks microfiber bar tape?
I have been using the 3T COMPETIZIONE and the SR SAKAE SPECIAL and are pretty comfortabler pretty recommended 😋👌
I have a question Zack, if I can ride my bike brake less, I also can drive my car drive less?, I can gear reverse in order to stop the car 😎👌
I been thinking that seriously, what you recommend? 🤔
Horrible comment. Try again
finally slamming that stem. nice !
1:40 I dunno man, IMO, the tops position on aero bars is more comfortable 'cause of the bigger flatter area to put your palms on,
Creaking is hell though, I live in a hilly area, so I climb and skid alot, if my bars started squeaking and creaking ,I'd just saw them into pieces and get new quiet ones...
What do you think of fixie/track bars with integrated nubs on the top to take the place of hoods? Like the Velobike "Bunch Bars"
Let's goooo! New upload!
Make a video about bullhorn and pursuit bars.
(I too have deep purp mercier w. black wheelset [miche] gold hubs, black sugino cranks, black cinelli stem and . . . blah blah blah💥👊)
Question, what kind of hair 🤔 product you use @ZachGallardo
The purple and green bikes gave me such ‘windbreaker’ vibes.
I meant brake-less fixed gear on the road. You get going down a hill with a stop sign at the bottom and there is no way that you are stopping.
Changed out my drop bars for risers a couple days ago I don't think I'll ever switch back to drop bars.
Try bullhorn handlebars.
@@silentcyclist I have to at some point. Beyond looking sick I think I'd ride on the horns way more often than I did in the drops
@@sonymicronin I used to be a roadbiker for a few years. I have two kinds of drop bars and don't feel comfortable riding them without brake/shifter levers. Bullhorns and pursuit bars are my favorite.
Guys I lied, drops are king
i'm a bullhorn guy, but i have to say those are some nice drops.
The best drops for me have turned out to be a 47mm dirt drops with 7 degree flare from Redshift. It's called the Kitchensink bar if anyone cares to know. it is counterintuitive(make that counter zach's opinion) but very practical for commuter nomadic speed or fixie fools alike. Totally revolutionized my cockpit. My bike feels like a spaceship.
Zach’s opinions are shying away from impracticality
Please do not order a Nitto 177, at least until I clear the waitlist and get one for my current project.
My other go to bar is Cinelli 66 for bikes with brakes, in silver.
I’ve tried compacts and other shapes, after a couple months I keep getting the 66s out of the parts bin. 66 has that nice deep drop so getting in the drops is different from being on the hoods or top, I don’t like being in one position the whole ride. Also the flats on the drops are big enough for the whole hand ,same as the 177. My pinkie finger is flopping in the breeze riding drops of ergo or compact bars.
Dude, you could cut glass with those nippsey hussles
that saddle to bar drop EESH that's comfy lol!?
Frame size pls?
what are the best drops for barspins?
Make sure you take off any top tube protector as well if youre doing bar spins with the b123, It might get in the way.
Bar spin with drop bars?
Nice vid!!!!!
Might check out these in a 40 cm
Anyone tried Spank Flare 25 Vibrocore?
Zach dreams in purple
Tbh I was a little disappointed when I clicked on your affiliate link, Amazon doesn't even let you change the size you want the handle bar to be, like how hard can that be, been searching a little while now for them but they are really expensive and there seems to be no alternative that has similar specifications them
Loctite
We fixed gear rider's thank you .
How much more content can you make on fixed gears bikes.
Cinelli Criterium bars all day.
more purple Wabi frames when? :D
I always thought your bars were bent from use or a crash lol
I have been reading the comments and I just feel weird to say that I use road bike dropbar
I find the noodles do bang the forearms a bit.
Found a pair of these on fb for 40$!!
This guy honestly just makes me feel like shit about my bike.
I want this mf bike man 😤 the purple 💜
Nihon Jitensha Shinkoukai NJS disbanded like a decade ago. It's the JKA (Japan Keirin Autorace) now that oversees bicycle and car racing, but the spec'd components are still branded with NJS in homage to that tradition. NJS was never meant to be top of the line, it was meant to keep the bikes within a tolerance standard so that no racer would have an advantage over the other. By modern standards NJS is pretty low tech, but that said, shit still rips
As a messenger in jakarta, i scared to riding brakeless when i use riserbar.. just one hand position (well, maybe 3 if u creative enough) then i switched to dropbars.
First dropbar, Uno compact dropb, double butted 400mm, so, so light! But not wide enough. Currently i using cinelli vai 420mm bar.. shallow drops for my not flexible body, and also i am bike mess, putting tons of packages on my shoulders. Cheers!
God bless you bro. Keep riding.
@@silentcyclist thank you dude!
Hey when are we getting new fixie points ?
I miss the roasting
@Bebo Lmao you're tripping mate
Besides, that's kind of the point or shoud l say fixie point.
You also don't have to watch it if you don't enjoy it
@Bebo I don't need to, you are missing the point.
Plus this bike is overrated af
@Bebo I have a life and better things to do than taking notes of bikes from YT videos so I can remember them and justify myself to a random commenter who seems to have no taste or fun in his existence, sorry not sorry lmao
@Bebo Projecting much ?
You're the one who doesn't like the content nor the bikes
@Bebo I didn't talk about Zach so gtfo
Having taste doesn't mean being hyper-specific about things you appreciate and shitting on everything else.
Olá zach coloca legenda em português
Bull Horn Gang lol
So it's basically a gravel bar.
nah
Ofcourse i know rivendell I saw LOTR
Cinelli mash
Damn…… the sleeve really kills it for me. No longer interested :(
34cm b123 or go home
I Have been riding fixed gear since 1977. I resent anyone who condones the dangerous practice of riding a fixed gear on the road. Secondly: Those bars suck. They go too far forward.. Any time you get off of the saddle, your forearms will hit the curve.
Wait I asked for this a few weeks ago don’t tell me you saw it!
Umm! 🥺👉👈 Can u give me drop i dont care what kind of drop hope u see bro!!!👋 From; Philippines
One of these days you're really going to regret not having brakes. It's only a matter of time.
Bruh your legs ARE your brakes when you ride “brakeless”. It’s really not that big a deal.
@@bwcastillo It's not a big deal if you ride in flat terrain. If you ride any hills you are a huge liability
@Bebo after reading your eye opening comment I will no longer be “skip stopping”. Locking the front brake is clearly the way to go.
Zach, I do like your stuff and think you’ve done a fabulous job but I will say you’re in danger of becoming a niche within a niche. You seem to falling down your NJS wormhole again. It’s a much bigger fixed gear world than just Japan. They are arguably ‘the standard’ but your fanboyness is a disservice to the fixed community. I know you’re trying to seem more diverse and inclusive… try harder lol.
Rightfully so. God and famous style is cute sometimes,but njs is classic.
But NJS parts are NJS parts, it's ok fixed gear is bigger than that, but if you want something original, nice, and overall good quality NJS is the perfect option, you will not make a mistake with that option 😎👌
@@carlostrejo9558 except for the fact he just featured a product that he said is “guaranteed to creak” which I would argue is ‘a mistake’ to purchase. I am an NJS fan, and believe in the fact they are ‘the standard’, but I do not exclusively buy NJS simply because it’s NJS, this is an example of that imo and kind of crazy to rave about a product and then throw in the afterthought that it will do the one thing most fixed gear riders hate… make noise.
These handlebars aren't NJS? What are you talking about man