L18.3 The Chebyshev Inequality

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  • @Dabsyboii
    @Dabsyboii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I am literally crying right now cause no matter how many times I wentt to my professor or looked on google or through my notes, I could never understand this. I am so glad i found you

    • @Ash-vu5vo
      @Ash-vu5vo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You still don’t understand it unfortunately (see my comment).

  • @q44444q
    @q44444q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    The best, most intuitive, most thoughtful presentation of elementary concentration inequalities I have ever witnessed. Thank you Professor Tsitsiklis. I know it is unlikely that you see these comments, but I hope you do. Your teaching has made a world of difference to students all over the world.

  • @holly_singh
    @holly_singh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is great. Thank you so much Prof. Tsitsiklis

  • @dccn
    @dccn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you! The proof of markov & chebyshev inequality is easy to be understood

  • @ns4543
    @ns4543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the best explanation of Chebyshev's inequality! thanks!

  • @bluejimmy168
    @bluejimmy168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Does anyone know why p( x - 1 >= a -1) = a - 1) is a true statement at 4:34 . How do we know that the statement is true if we dont know the distribution of the probability?

    • @dsafadsddfca
      @dsafadsddfca 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      the distribution of the probability is not necessary, | x - 1| >= x-1 ie all values for x where x-1 >= a-1 also means that for the same values of x, | x - 1| >= a-1 . However, for values of x where x-1 < a-1, for those same values either | x - 1| will also be < a-1 but it may also be >= a-1 . Which means there that | x - 1| will at the very least have the same amount of values >= a-1 hence p( x - 1 >= a -1) = a - 1)

    • @bluejimmy168
      @bluejimmy168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dsafadsddfca thanks.

    • @prateekpani9464
      @prateekpani9464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The inequality is clearer if we see it in terms of area....say y = x-1....now y >= a-1 correspond to a certain domain-set( S1 ) and |y| >= a-1 correspond to {y | S1 union {S2 = y | y

    • @q44444q
      @q44444q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A different explanation:
      1) We know that x-1 >= a-1 implies that |x-1| >= a-1. Why? If x-1 >= 0, it's trivially true, as x-1 = |x-1|. If x-1 < 0, then a-1 < 0 too, and since any absolute value is larger or equal to zero, we know that |x-1| >= 0 > a-1, so |x-1| > a-1.
      2a) We know that |x-1| >= a-1 DOES NOT ALWAYS imply that x-1 >= a-1. Here is a counterexample. Let x = -2 and a = 1. Then |x-1| = 3 >= a-1 = 0, but x-1 = -3 is not greater than a-1 = 0.
      2b) Note that if x is strictly positive, then these two cases are the same: there is no counterexample.
      3) Therefore, we know that there zero (case 2b) or more (case 2a) x's for which |x-1| > a-1 and x-1 >/= a-1. This is the very definition of P(|x-1| > a-1) being greater than P(x-1 > a-1).
      To show this more rigorously, remember that the definition of |x| >= a is that -a

  • @ylast3756
    @ylast3756 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Indian brother. The explanation was very clear.

  • @xiscc-41suhaninair94
    @xiscc-41suhaninair94 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love from Jadavpur university 🎉🎉

  • @sandrasurendran5068
    @sandrasurendran5068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much.

  • @zbynekba
    @zbynekba 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing insight, interpretation, and intuition. Thanks

  • @comusic2023
    @comusic2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful

  • @pallaviharishchandre3021
    @pallaviharishchandre3021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much

  • @imranq9241
    @imranq9241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't Markov be a better bound for distributions with very high variance?

  • @danielm572
    @danielm572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beautiful

  • @tvvt005
    @tvvt005 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:09 wait i didn’t understand the justfi for why c is non negative, can someone explain

    • @riaj0seph06
      @riaj0seph06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      P(|X-u|>=c)
      if c is negative, you're saying P(|X-u|>= negative number)
      |X-u| will always be non negative as there's a modulus, so probability of some non negative quantity >= negative number will be 1, i.e P(|X-u|>= c) =1 if c

    • @riaj0seph06
      @riaj0seph06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      since the probability is always 1 in that case, we don't need this inequality/bound; that defeats the purpose of this thing. that's why we only consider cases where c>=0

  • @mr.shanegao
    @mr.shanegao 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    brilliant ! Great !

  • @souravsidana9631
    @souravsidana9631 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good explanation

  • @Chankeypathak
    @Chankeypathak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What is the real world usage of Chebyshev? Can someone give an example please.

    • @GerardoRodriguez-cw6rj
      @GerardoRodriguez-cw6rj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      When the probability distribution of a data set is unknown, you can determine the probability that the random variable X falls within a certain range of values given its mean and standard deviation. By looking at normal distributions with different degrees of kurtosis, you'll see that the Chebyshev inequality matters as the same range will have different probabilities of occurring in the respective normal distributions.

    • @msahasarkar590
      @msahasarkar590 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very often used in the study of barren plateaus of quantum neural networks and exponential concentration of kernel methods in quantum machine learning.

    • @Retinal
      @Retinal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GerardoRodriguez-cw6rj Doesn't that make the second example counter-intuitive since x is stated to have an exponential distribution?

  • @xiscc-41suhaninair94
    @xiscc-41suhaninair94 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Any west bengal students here?

  • @Ash-vu5vo
    @Ash-vu5vo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is what college tuition fees gets you - incomplete proofs from incompetent teachers. Meanwhile all the sheeple viewers are grateful thinking they understand (when they don’t). |x - m| >= c implies (x - m)^2 >= c^2, sure, that is easily seen, but we are talking about their probabilities here and this guy has just straight up claimed they are equal (and the sheeple have just accepted). The world is full of incompetent teachers who need to be held accountable - I’m simply doing my little part.

    • @lynny7868
      @lynny7868 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can do it without calling out names and sounding condescending.

    • @tejasgurjar6450
      @tejasgurjar6450 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Do you know that the P(X) and P(X^2) are same?

    • @SirEmjayYT
      @SirEmjayYT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're either a troll that's going around trying to get attention, or you actually KNOW the better way of proving Chebyshev's Inequality, if you're the latter, then go ahead and release a video or at least link to a video that explains it better, and stop using negative names and adjectives, the field of study and tutoring is a professional field, quit acting like a child.

  • @tvvt005
    @tvvt005 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:09 wait i didn’t understand the justfi for why c is non negative, can someone explain