The Remembrance fact is a really interesting little meta tie-in, considering that in-universe, the same circumstances surrounding the props also reflect on the two factions. The Imperial Daleks are meant to be almost brand new but enhanced, whilst the Renegade Daleks are long-lived veteran Daleks of the old Empire. That’s really cool that the props themselves reflect that history!
The Special Weapons Dalek in series 9 was sourced from a private company, its proportions are on the wonk, like the sides of the gun box don’t fully align with the plate separating the skirt and midsection as the original prop did. And since Dalek 63•88 pointed this out, I haven’t been able to unsee it.
Can you imagine if they used the movie dalek in the magicians apprentice it would be amazing to see how people try to fit it into canon. Edit: with the smaller lights bigger bumper and slats on the mid section it could be a in-between dalek between TV invasion of earth and the following story.
Lol cool idea lol tbh I wanna see them straight up, dr who and canon don't exactly get along too well so seeing people be like "wait this was just a movie in universe?" And try to figure out what happened would be hilarious (I think davros just found it cool)
Given how much the technology has advanced, I suspect that it would not be hard (for someone who knows what they're doing, anyway, so not me) to recreate some TF2 scenes with red and blue Daleks. Might be fun to watch.
I’m pretty sure the Dalek mutant prop used in ‘Parting of the Ways’ was actually the same prop used in ‘Dalek’. Amazing how a change of lighting, cinematography and dialogue changes how you see a blobby squid-mutant.
Damn, I've been wanting the paradigm daleks to return for ages, but more in a secondary role like in the Asylum of the daleks, and to learn that they could of appeared in the Magicians apprentice, really infuriates me.
another prop fact is 2 Peter Cushing movie daleks appear in the chase with their extended skirt panels removed in the dalek time machine and in full later on in the story. Dalek 63.88 strikes again with obscure facts
I remember seeing a blue Dalek at the Madame Tussaud’s Doctor Who exhibition when I was a sproglet, way back in the 80s. And I seem to recall reading somewhere, many years later, that this prop had consisted of the top half of the gold Dalek from the Katy Manning nude photos plus a new and very inaccurately shaped skirt section, specially built for the exhibition. It would be great to establish whether this is true or whether I’ve been misinformed or just remembered it wrongly…
The distinction I use is that a costume on its own wouldn't work without the person to wear it, but a Dalek is still a Dalek whether there's an operator inside or not
@@dalekbumpsFair enough, but I would say that as they are character suits designed to be worn/operated, they are costumes. A non-working version like a SFX dummy or a "Planet" goon counts as a prop, absolutely. Likewise the little Dalek Emperor mutant in the model is a prop, but the close-up version is a puppet. A costume on its own, perhaps on a mannequin used in the background of a shot, still "works" in the same way as an unoccupied Dalek costume. But in both cases, you can always tell, can't you?
To expand on this point, the Daleks were designed around the shape of a person sitting inside, hence the forward-sloping skirt. They are, in a word, ergonomic. One reason the Paradigm design failed is that they treated the Daleks as props that could be scaled up arbitrarily. Thus the Paradigm were too tall to operate seated, but too short to operate standing, and were quite heavy as well.
The Remembrance fact is a really interesting little meta tie-in, considering that in-universe, the same circumstances surrounding the props also reflect on the two factions.
The Imperial Daleks are meant to be almost brand new but enhanced, whilst the Renegade Daleks are long-lived veteran Daleks of the old Empire. That’s really cool that the props themselves reflect that history!
Imagine being the most feared mutant the galaxy has ever known, then getting plopped into a special weapons casing, with no manipulator arm,
The Special Weapons Dalek in series 9 was sourced from a private company, its proportions are on the wonk, like the sides of the gun box don’t fully align with the plate separating the skirt and midsection as the original prop did. And since Dalek 63•88 pointed this out, I haven’t been able to unsee it.
Just imagine how weird it would feel to see the paradigm daleks being commanded by the supreme of a variant that they was supposed to replace.
The BBC most of the time only ever used the same 4 props, 5 if you were lucky during the classic series, the rest were just goons.
I bet that’s just how they decided to build their special weapons dalek, the floating gun platform was just too expensive
Can you imagine if they used the movie dalek in the magicians apprentice it would be amazing to see how people try to fit it into canon.
Edit: with the smaller lights bigger bumper and slats on the mid section it could be a in-between dalek between TV invasion of earth and the following story.
Lol cool idea lol tbh I wanna see them straight up, dr who and canon don't exactly get along too well so seeing people be like "wait this was just a movie in universe?" And try to figure out what happened would be hilarious (I think davros just found it cool)
I like to think that new who repurposed the floating gun platform idea into the dalek fighter pods
That's a good point, I hadn't considered that - the fighter pods fulfill the same purpose, just as flying units that are much faster
The fighter pods might also be modernized hoverbouts from the old TV21 comics.
4:48 holy shit, tf2 daleks
Given how much the technology has advanced, I suspect that it would not be hard (for someone who knows what they're doing, anyway, so not me) to recreate some TF2 scenes with red and blue Daleks. Might be fun to watch.
@@princecharon once I learn how to animate, I want to do that lol
"I am the special weapons dalek and this is my casing"
- that one special weapons dalek
@@princecharon I'm now just imagining Nick Briggs screaming "SANDWICH" in the Dalek Supreme voice, and that makes me very happy.
Until a couple of years ago I never knew the complex and fascinating history of the Dalek props
5:24 "Dalek One-7" sounds like a creppy pasta story tbh. 😅
I love how much Dalek knowledge I’ve accumulated watching you Channel over the last year or so. Your content is really excellent my dude!
The Red Top Dalek actually originated in a stage play called Curse of The Daleks in 1965.
I’m pretty sure the Dalek mutant prop used in ‘Parting of the Ways’ was actually the same prop used in ‘Dalek’. Amazing how a change of lighting, cinematography and dialogue changes how you see a blobby squid-mutant.
Kept the local hardware store in business just with all the toilet plunger sales alone
Damn, I've been wanting the paradigm daleks to return for ages, but more in a secondary role like in the Asylum of the daleks, and to learn that they could of appeared in the Magicians apprentice, really infuriates me.
Remembrance could’ve been dalek tf2. Still the final colours are definitely the best option.
another prop fact is 2 Peter Cushing movie daleks appear in the chase with their extended skirt panels removed in the dalek time machine and in full later on in the story. Dalek 63.88 strikes again with obscure facts
I remember seeing a blue Dalek at the Madame Tussaud’s Doctor Who exhibition when I was a sproglet, way back in the 80s. And I seem to recall reading somewhere, many years later, that this prop had consisted of the top half of the gold Dalek from the Katy Manning nude photos plus a new and very inaccurately shaped skirt section, specially built for the exhibition. It would be great to establish whether this is true or whether I’ve been misinformed or just remembered it wrongly…
Now do 10 behind the scenes facts about the [cybermens]
Can you explain Shadow of the Daleks please?
Meet the daleks
Tf2 people be like:
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2 views in 6 seconds? Dalek Bumps fell off ngl
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Daleks are COSTUMES, not props. Change my mind!
The distinction I use is that a costume on its own wouldn't work without the person to wear it, but a Dalek is still a Dalek whether there's an operator inside or not
@@dalekbumpsFair enough, but I would say that as they are character suits designed to be worn/operated, they are costumes. A non-working version like a SFX dummy or a "Planet" goon counts as a prop, absolutely. Likewise the little Dalek Emperor mutant in the model is a prop, but the close-up version is a puppet.
A costume on its own, perhaps on a mannequin used in the background of a shot, still "works" in the same way as an unoccupied Dalek costume. But in both cases, you can always tell, can't you?
To expand on this point, the Daleks were designed around the shape of a person sitting inside, hence the forward-sloping skirt. They are, in a word, ergonomic. One reason the Paradigm design failed is that they treated the Daleks as props that could be scaled up arbitrarily. Thus the Paradigm were too tall to operate seated, but too short to operate standing, and were quite heavy as well.