I think you hit it with the 3rd point. The social proof that institutions provide is a lot more useful in the job market than we'd like to believe. Full, online, ultralearning projects seem to be undertaken as hobbies or by folks that are maniacally focused on self-improvement.
totally agree with your point of taking Ultralearning as Hobbies or Self-improvement. With Online education, one needs to be more proactive and disciplined. Sometimes, it's even harder to find a good Online course. But I'm still a big believer in Online learning.
I think the MIT challenge is a bold and attractive way of self-educating, but only few can actually do it. Another reason I would add for the limited adoption is the time commitment. It is not possible or realistic for most people to dedicate themselves full time to study for a year, or longer, for financial and other reasons. It's also really difficult to stay committed, without peers or a support system that you would have with a brick and mortar education.
I agree to this, I self-studied as a software developer and I have very limited finances that I had to get at least an intern level job ( 3rd world country here ) within the month. I did get it but it shows that it's possible for me to learn, but to learn and give that enough time for a year without worrying on finances is an almost impossible task especially of my financial status and country.
i think your mit challenge was all about the focus and resilience one could cultivate to pull something off that challenging, not having received a good education especially in math, i recently put together a few online courses to learn math from the very basics to college material and i am hoping to get it done in about a year.
I was going to take on the challenge a few years back. I even sent you an e-mail about it (which you kindly replied to). The intention was to complete it in 2 years, instead, but the reasons I ended up not completing it were as follows: 1 - It was going to be longer than that since I had significant catching up to do, such as pre-calculus (my country's high school education wasn't enough for me to take classes right away) 2 - After completing the theory content of several subjects, about 3 months in, I realized many of the courses were much more basic than the M.I.T versions. For example, I took a physics course in coursera, but they only ever gave us super basic formulas, and seemed to be a "physics of everyday life" kind of thing rather than a proper intro to physics course. 3 - The ability to support myself while completing the challenge proved tricky 4 - I realized after about 6 months that I didn't want to do this and then go and find a 9-5 job with what I learned. In the end, I thought I'd rather learn the things that I was really passionate about and try to go *do* something with that instead of trying to complete a college education just for the sake of it, while taking subjects I wasn't really connecting with, and without the social benefits of actually going to college. Your challenge DID point me to online education, however, and ever since then I've been picking up all sorts of fascinating stuff that I was interested in, but weren't related so as to be part of a college curriculum (graphic design, languages, music production, 3d modeling, and programming, to name a few). I've since used a lot of the stuff I've learned to become my own boss and do what I like instead. I still have a studying time assigned to my daily routine to keep learning stuff and improving myself. Your challenge definitely made an impact on my life, just not to go and do the exact same, but rather to use similar discipline to do what felt right for me at the time.
Do you know whether your project was discussed higher up at MIT? I assume there was no public comment from their side as it shook the status quo of gatekept and institutionalized education.
my goal is to eventually have something equivalent to to an MIT degree in computer science, but to do it in a year is insane, you need a very strong background in math and science to read the subjects quickly. I would need several months to get through the calculus sequence alone. the reason more people are not doing it is because society does not value this type of education. however, for IT jobs there are more opportunities for people who are self-taught, but they expect you to know the practical skills more than anything else, having a good portfolio will open more doors than having read through a ton of math, physics and engineering textbooks. that being said, as long as we self taught developers don't go through something as the MIT challenge, we will feel like we are second rate engineers, one always has this feeling that one should know the theory behind everything. kudos to mr. Scott.
As noble as your intentions were, you self graded and self evaluation might satisfy you but it’s not good enough for some professions or academia. Harvard Extension School has been doing distance learning since the days of VHS and it’s getting more and more popular. UPenn’s LPS program for adults have now allowed 100% online learning also… Georgetown university and University of Washington at St. Louis also have their own 100% online degree programs. The prices of these schools is far more than what you invested in the MIT challenge BUT students are graduated formally and they get regionally accredited undergrad and graduate level degrees that can be used to get into medical school, law school etc.
You were an inspiration back then, Scott. Every year since then, I've done three months of learning challenges. I never posted it because it felt like bragging, and I didn't have any incentive to make it public. At the same time, Coursera and Udacity grew massively. Many of the paths can take up to one year to complete if you want to go from 0 to hero in one specific area; which is similar to the idea of having an "MIT project".
I read your book and I was actually looking for a way to learn from MIT EECS curriculum. I am a second year CS student and looking for premium materials about CS subjects.Thank you for the ebooks.
God may bless you Scott you are a huge inspiration for me, I dropped university because I am doing robotics/ai/3d/software/hardware/multimedial werid stuff and there is no career teaching this so I am learning multiple careers on my own, and I am planning that one of those would be the MIT Challenge and follow your steps. So thank you so much for making the road easier really I appreciate that so much. And as a personal answer for your question because I lived it is in my case that I didn't have a good reason to make put all that effort and maybe as a non native english speaker it increments the difficulty more, but when I found my passion of this strange combination I was so drive that I don't care learning the most stressful and dificult thing, but it is because emotionally I have a good reason to keep going
As a bored, nuerodiverse person, I’ve been able to learn a lot more by self-studying than listening to a teacher lecture forever and give us busy work in high school
You mentioned on your “challenge completed” video that you should have a certain and specific aim before taking on a journey. What if instead of having the aim to “completing the course” was something that had actual consequences/significance for your future, like “I want to go to the moon single handedly”. That way, your journey won’t be the fixed recommendations of a curriculum that doesn’t take into account your goal, but instead you have the flexibility of doing and figuring out everything that is necessary towards achieving that dream as soon as possible. I believe that this is the key difference between what makes a common person, and the stuff of people like Elon Musk. (You mentioned that you’re not as ‘bold’ as you were in the past. Maybe it’s because you’re feeling a little aimless? I’d have to say the same for myself honestly, but I have an Ideal that I am devoted towards embodying, so a sense of certainty is just around the corner.)
Ever since that comment, I continued to devote myself to becoming my ideal self, and as a result, I have been learning everything that has been necessary in order to complete that goal. However, when it comes to my vision for an ideal world, my dream, I won't be able to act without having some sort of personal, significant connection/relationship with something that I am willing to fight for, and this level of devotion towards something greater than myself can only be achieved by putting something on a pedestal by first eliminating the ego, and letting go of everything, which consists of the corruptions accumulated by the educations of any conclusions made, an ideology, a belief, one's ego, etc. (This effectively means that you return to the state of being childlike and at the mercy of the world that happens TO you, for you not only understand logically that you don't know ANYTHING, but you also it.) I've done this countless of times, managing to reach temporary states of literal enlightenment, but in order to make it a permanent stage of my character, just as my childlike but not childish Ideal self with unlimited potential is, I must have ultimately have a grounded view of existence, which ties back into the whole devotion idea again. In order to let go of everything , and remain untouched by malevolence (which has been holding me back from a STAGE of enlightenment, rather than the temporary states I've been having), I must expose myself continuously to the otherwordly presence that is my dream, and bow down to it (so to speak). One day, the intensity of this presence should become stronger and longer lasting the more I practice this alongside my attempts to not get distracted, and then, hopefully, soon, I will become my Ideal self.
Complete an entire MIT “degree” online is waste of time, getting a job internship or job actually only need to studied a small group of courses that offered online like CS61ABC and other tech specific specialization.
Mr. Scott Young, i need your help with studying like this. I saw that u did a lecture of 30 hours in just 2 days!! I try that, but the problem is that i get stuck Often i dont understand something and i spend hours trying to find a good explanation on the internet. And so i take way more than 2 days to finish the lectures What would u do in this situation? To never get stuck? Thank u for making this. Happy new year sir!!
He explains in his 3rd week video that the issue you described was one he ran into. So to help alleviate getting stuck, he pivoted to 4 classes within a month to allow picking up other material from another course if he were to get stuck on a subject. He also mentions that this can be beneficial because of space repetition. Give it a watch
I think the main reason why online learning seemed to struggle so much during the pandemic is that comparing the learning styles of a 6-yo, a 16-yo, and a 26-yo is inherently flawed. Even a well-behaved 6-yo isn't going to have the same level of self-discipline that an adult has when it comes to learning, and they won't have the same study, research, and self-reflection skills that even a 16-yo has. So I think, up until at least the teen years, in-person instruction is necessary for effective learning. Certainly, there's exceptions to this, but most of the time when a young child studies subjects outside of class, it's focused in on a single area (computers, dinosaurs, history, etc.) and not applied to all fundamental skills.
I think you hit it with the 3rd point. The social proof that institutions provide is a lot more useful in the job market than we'd like to believe. Full, online, ultralearning projects seem to be undertaken as hobbies or by folks that are maniacally focused on self-improvement.
totally agree with your point of taking Ultralearning as Hobbies or Self-improvement. With Online education, one needs to be more proactive and disciplined. Sometimes, it's even harder to find a good Online course. But I'm still a big believer in Online learning.
You inspired me many years ago with that challenge
I think the MIT challenge is a bold and attractive way of self-educating, but only few can actually do it. Another reason I would add for the limited adoption is the time commitment. It is not possible or realistic for most people to dedicate themselves full time to study for a year, or longer, for financial and other reasons. It's also really difficult to stay committed, without peers or a support system that you would have with a brick and mortar education.
I agree to this, I self-studied as a software developer and I have very limited finances that I had to get at least an intern level job ( 3rd world country here ) within the month. I did get it but it shows that it's possible for me to learn, but to learn and give that enough time for a year without worrying on finances is an almost impossible task especially of my financial status and country.
Its been 10 years? Wow, been subscribed since, was fun and motivating to follow
i think your mit challenge was all about the focus and resilience one could cultivate to pull something off that challenging, not having received a good education especially in math, i recently put together a few online courses to learn math from the very basics to college material and i am hoping to get it done in about a year.
I really liked Scott's explanation. Simple, clear & to the point. Thank you for this video. :)
I was going to take on the challenge a few years back. I even sent you an e-mail about it (which you kindly replied to). The intention was to complete it in 2 years, instead, but the reasons I ended up not completing it were as follows:
1 - It was going to be longer than that since I had significant catching up to do, such as pre-calculus (my country's high school education wasn't enough for me to take classes right away)
2 - After completing the theory content of several subjects, about 3 months in, I realized many of the courses were much more basic than the M.I.T versions. For example, I took a physics course in coursera, but they only ever gave us super basic formulas, and seemed to be a "physics of everyday life" kind of thing rather than a proper intro to physics course.
3 - The ability to support myself while completing the challenge proved tricky
4 - I realized after about 6 months that I didn't want to do this and then go and find a 9-5 job with what I learned.
In the end, I thought I'd rather learn the things that I was really passionate about and try to go *do* something with that instead of trying to complete a college education just for the sake of it, while taking subjects I wasn't really connecting with, and without the social benefits of actually going to college.
Your challenge DID point me to online education, however, and ever since then I've been picking up all sorts of fascinating stuff that I was interested in, but weren't related so as to be part of a college curriculum (graphic design, languages, music production, 3d modeling, and programming, to name a few). I've since used a lot of the stuff I've learned to become my own boss and do what I like instead. I still have a studying time assigned to my daily routine to keep learning stuff and improving myself.
Your challenge definitely made an impact on my life, just not to go and do the exact same, but rather to use similar discipline to do what felt right for me at the time.
Do you know whether your project was discussed higher up at MIT?
I assume there was no public comment from their side as it shook the status quo of gatekept and institutionalized education.
my goal is to eventually have something equivalent to to an MIT degree in computer science, but to do it in a year is insane, you need a very strong background in math and science to read the subjects quickly. I would need several months to get through the calculus sequence alone. the reason more people are not doing it is because society does not value this type of education. however, for IT jobs there are more opportunities for people who are self-taught, but they expect you to know the practical skills more than anything else, having a good portfolio will open more doors than having read through a ton of math, physics and engineering textbooks. that being said, as long as we self taught developers don't go through something as the MIT challenge, we will feel like we are second rate engineers, one always has this feeling that one should know the theory behind everything. kudos to mr. Scott.
As noble as your intentions were, you self graded and self evaluation might satisfy you but it’s not good enough for some professions or academia.
Harvard Extension School has been doing distance learning since the days of VHS and it’s getting more and more popular.
UPenn’s LPS program for adults have now allowed 100% online learning also… Georgetown university and University of Washington at St. Louis also have their own 100% online degree programs.
The prices of these schools is far more than what you invested in the MIT challenge BUT students are graduated formally and they get regionally accredited undergrad and graduate level degrees that can be used to get into medical school, law school etc.
You were an inspiration back then, Scott. Every year since then, I've done three months of learning challenges. I never posted it because it felt like bragging, and I didn't have any incentive to make it public. At the same time, Coursera and Udacity grew massively. Many of the paths can take up to one year to complete if you want to go from 0 to hero in one specific area; which is similar to the idea of having an "MIT project".
I read your book and I was actually looking for a way to learn from MIT EECS curriculum. I am a second year CS student and looking for premium materials about CS subjects.Thank you for the ebooks.
God may bless you Scott you are a huge inspiration for me, I dropped university because I am doing robotics/ai/3d/software/hardware/multimedial werid stuff and there is no career teaching this so I am learning multiple careers on my own, and I am planning that one of those would be the MIT Challenge and follow your steps. So thank you so much for making the road easier really I appreciate that so much. And as a personal answer for your question because I lived it is in my case that I didn't have a good reason to make put all that effort and maybe as a non native english speaker it increments the difficulty more, but when I found my passion of this strange combination I was so drive that I don't care learning the most stressful and dificult thing, but it is because emotionally I have a good reason to keep going
I'm really interested, how did you do it?
As a bored, nuerodiverse person, I’ve been able to learn a lot more by self-studying than listening to a teacher lecture forever and give us busy work in high school
You mentioned on your “challenge completed” video that you should have a certain and specific aim before taking on a journey.
What if instead of having the aim to “completing the course” was something that had actual consequences/significance for your future, like “I want to go to the moon single handedly”.
That way, your journey won’t be the fixed recommendations of a curriculum that doesn’t take into account your goal, but instead you have the flexibility of doing and figuring out everything that is necessary towards achieving that dream as soon as possible.
I believe that this is the key difference between what makes a common person, and the stuff of people like Elon Musk.
(You mentioned that you’re not as ‘bold’ as you were in the past. Maybe it’s because you’re feeling a little aimless? I’d have to say the same for myself honestly, but I have an Ideal that I am devoted towards embodying, so a sense of certainty is just around the corner.)
interesting, say more?
Ever since that comment, I continued to devote myself to becoming my ideal self, and as a result, I have been learning everything that has been necessary in order to complete that goal.
However, when it comes to my vision for an ideal world, my dream, I won't be able to act without having some sort of personal, significant connection/relationship with something that I am willing to fight for, and this level of devotion towards something greater than myself can only be achieved by putting something on a pedestal by first eliminating the ego, and letting go of everything, which consists of the corruptions accumulated by the educations of any conclusions made, an ideology, a belief, one's ego, etc.
(This effectively means that you return to the state of being childlike and at the mercy of the world that happens TO you, for you not only understand logically that you don't know ANYTHING, but you also it.)
I've done this countless of times, managing to reach temporary states of literal enlightenment, but in order to make it a permanent stage of my character, just as my childlike but not childish Ideal self with unlimited potential is, I must have ultimately have a grounded view of existence, which ties back into the whole devotion idea again.
In order to let go of everything , and remain untouched by malevolence (which has been holding me back from a STAGE of enlightenment, rather than the temporary states I've been having), I must expose myself continuously to the otherwordly presence that is my dream, and bow down to it (so to speak).
One day, the intensity of this presence should become stronger and longer lasting the more I practice this alongside my attempts to not get distracted, and then, hopefully, soon, I will become my Ideal self.
We have programming boot camps that get people Jr Dev jobs in 8-12 weeks.
Please create a textbook on how to learn from kinder to high school
Complete an entire MIT “degree” online is waste of time, getting a job internship or job actually only need to studied a small group of courses that offered online like CS61ABC and other tech specific specialization.
I want to try this everything is behind a paywall so Idk if MIT was like no more free courses we're losing student.
Hey Scott, can you make a video about the OSSU computer science curriculum and what do you think about it. Thank you
well bc idk what textbooks i needed to but to try it.
The object of teaching a child is to enable the child to get along without a teacher
not very accurte
Did you even gor a CS job? Or you did it because of a book contract?
Mr. Scott Young, i need your help with studying like this.
I saw that u did a lecture of 30 hours in just 2 days!! I try that, but the problem is that i get stuck
Often i dont understand something and i spend hours trying to find a good explanation on the internet. And so i take way more than 2 days to finish the lectures
What would u do in this situation? To never get stuck?
Thank u for making this. Happy new year sir!!
He explains in his 3rd week video that the issue you described was one he ran into. So to help alleviate getting stuck, he pivoted to 4 classes within a month to allow picking up other material from another course if he were to get stuck on a subject. He also mentions that this can be beneficial because of space repetition. Give it a watch
I think the main reason why online learning seemed to struggle so much during the pandemic is that comparing the learning styles of a 6-yo, a 16-yo, and a 26-yo is inherently flawed. Even a well-behaved 6-yo isn't going to have the same level of self-discipline that an adult has when it comes to learning, and they won't have the same study, research, and self-reflection skills that even a 16-yo has. So I think, up until at least the teen years, in-person instruction is necessary for effective learning.
Certainly, there's exceptions to this, but most of the time when a young child studies subjects outside of class, it's focused in on a single area (computers, dinosaurs, history, etc.) and not applied to all fundamental skills.
Hi. Do you have a book were I can lean your technics?
Because studying is hard and you’re only hyping it to be easy because you’re selling a book
2:00 I am propably not more clever than the average MIT student...
Me: leaving the chat 😅
Scott I would like to discuss an issue with you your website says 403 forbidden nginx