Traditional Catholic Monks of Papa Stronsay, Scotland
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- Excerpt from a documentary series featuring the Transalpine Redemptorist monks of Papa Stronsay, Scotland - a congregation of traditionalist Catholic Fathers and Brothers of both Eastern and Western Rite from all over the world. The documentary was filmed in September 2003 and originally aired on Channel 4 (UK) in 2004.
The congregation was founded in 1988 by Fr Michael Mary and Fr Anthony Mary on the advice of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. Their aim was to found a new Redemptorist congregation which observed the original Rule of Saint Alphonsus and ignored the reforms adopted by modern Redemptorists following the Second Vatican Council.
The congregation moved from the Isle of Sheppy in Kent, England, to Papa Stronsay in 1999. The island was considered ideal because of its seclusion from the world and ancient connection with the monastic tradition. As well as producing their own newspaper, the monks raise their own cattle and sheep and they produce most of their own food.
For more information visit:
www.papastronsay.com
I just recently heard of this order of monks and where they live. I thank God there are places like this. I think their prayers probably do more for the salvation of mankind than what the material world can ever offer.
Infinite Wisdom Amen to that 😉!!!
Tiene usted razon.
I spent two weeks there a few years ago and it was absolutely brutal. Those men are made of steel. Their reward in heaven will be great indeed.
Kurt Gödel u
I visited the monastery for a couple of days and nights a few years ago. Wonderful location. Just getting there seemed a penance!
I am planning to stay there for a while. Can I ask you somethings about it privately please? Appreciate it
Blessed be the Holy Name of Jesus and Praise be to His Sacred Heart.
He's hooked! He just doesn't know it yet.
Thank God for these wonderful holy monks. A beautiful video...
What an incredibley beautiful, edifying video. As a hermitess living in suburban Massachusetts it really lifts me up!!! God Bless, Ave Maria
God bless
I sorely want to visit this place.
I visited a couple f years ago. I highly recommend!
+lincolncity9 . i want to visit. how do i go about doing it?
+Manjing C Write a letter to the guest master asking if you can visit. The address is on their web site. Depending on where you are located getting there can be a challenge but quite straightforward. I'll be happy helping you plan your journey. All the best!
am in Phoenix. my email is ec1125@gmail.com. I go to Mater Misericordiae Mission for the daily Latin mass
@@lincolncity9 Are they SSPX monks?
There is a Monastery in Big Sur, California called New Camaldolise Hermitage that is just like this on in Scotland. The live a very austere life as well.
I do hope this man found God eventually :)
billy bob I was just thinking that tonight as I watched this. I’m hoping the Rosary might help him as well.
Thank you for your honesty. I've recently returned to the CC. I have friends who are atheists and agnostics. I think this video is a great example of being 'tolerant' of others, even if we don't always understand each other. Monks and cloistered nuns are definitely answering the call of God to pray for all of us. For peace in our hearts to then change our world. PAX and bless you.
Late welcome back from me I guess
@@ZiraRisasi Thank you Zira Risasi. It's been a great time and trying time, but I'd not be anything but Catholic now. God bless.
God bless you Susie Melkus welcome back home
Why had that last scene bring tears to my eyes
we monks are blessed by God in different ways, please let us maintain our spirit of prayer and our monastic traditions.
Quite interesting! I really enjoyed this. thanks for sharing!
this guy is So funny!! Its such a delight to watch how he reacts to the various things he sees around him...he is so honest and child-like in his reactions - it's a pleasure to watch - he looks looks totally out of his depth :) and yet he carries on :) he reminds me so much of me in such situations! :)
Been there, done that... in October 2009... Cool place, nicest people...
Thanks to the producers of this video, this is one of the reasons I give thanks to God for opening my eyes and preserve me in the true faith. God has mysterious ways to guide the man, and this one is very peculiar since Adam is an Atheist (maybe not anymore). By the end of the visit it was obvious that he was touched by what he observed and experienced.
Viva Cristo Rey, Viva la Virgen de Guadalupe!!!
Watching from kenya .. I had tears rolling down my face in the end. Did you become catholic?
Very similar to the Orthodox in their manner, very beautiful.
Only the pure of heart can see Truth and Love ❤️
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ and mother Mary
I for sure believe he will become a catholic or he will come back to that island and becomes a monk.
I’ve watched this video a few times over time but I’m not exactly sure why. It started to play on “Autoplay” after I video I was watching today and for some reason, out of curiosity, I looked up Adam Nicolson on Google because he’s an author to see what he’s written. I found a very interesting video he did for National Geographic on The King James Bible that’s on TH-cam (which I don’t read but I do read the Douay Rheims version and I don’t recommend the King James Bible because it’s a Protestant bible and not Catholic) but it’s quite entertaining to watch (because of Adam Nicolson who has a great sense of humor) and it’s quite educational. He goes through the history of several versions of the Protestant bibles and perhaps one can learn quite a bit.
The Knox Bible is a wonderful Catholic version.
If it's of any help Dom Benedict, Father sub-Prior at my local priory, prefers the King James Bible over the Catholic one. The language is more poetic. I attend a new priory which observes the original Latin Mass and follows the rites of St. Benedict, including the 3am Matins.
The monks cone from the US, UK, Australia, Spain, Canada, Ireland, Denmark. There are 16 now and they are struggling to build cells fast enough to take in those who want to join.
award worthy --thank you for this .
Looking through the comments, there seem to be a lot of haters.
Ignorant people, despisers of Christ and his Church.....I think this must be one of the greatest ringing endorsements that Traditional Catholics can recieve.
If the world persecutes and reviles you as it did with Christ, then you must be doing something right.
I have a lot of time for Traditional Catholics.
They go against the flow to do what they believe is truly right, in an unselfish way.
I grew up with two Newfoundland dogs. AMAZING animals!
I must have been led to this. I have been dreaming recently of founding a community set in the traditions of the first monks. Problem, I am married and female, but I can't help but wonder what God is trying to tell me. His Will Be Done. Deo Gratias.
Have you founded your dream community yet? Be interesting to learn. Bless you
I'm happy these folks rejoined the Catholic Church. They display, I think, real holiness - and that leads you right back to Jesus and the Body of Christ with its vicar.
Awesome.
I wonder if the presenter ever found God? You can see he was deeply touched and I think the Holy Spirit was doing what he does. I pray that he did.
Mr Cummins is such a good teacher
All "living" languages evolve. "Mad" was the word for "crazy" in Shakespeare's time. Now it means "angry." Latin is only "dead" in terms of evolution, but the great benefit is that what Latin words and phrases meant hundreds of years ago still means the same today. Preserving true meaning!
God does not favor one language over the other. Latin is the official language of the Church and is tied with tradition, reverence, and beauty--now who wouldn't want to pray with such a beautiful language?
Oh, my Dearest Fathers and Brothers!
They are my friends!
Now that they have returned to peaceful and undisputed communion with the Holy Father, it'd be an excellent idea to contribute to their support. We desperately NEED their intercession. Details on how to help them are available at their website.
This is a really lovely glimpse into the lives of men of God. It may not be everyone's way of life, but it is reassuring to know that some people on the spiritual path find their heaven on earth...and heaven within.
God bless our Priests
God bless
I’m not entirely sure I understand where they get their idea of being traditionalist Redemptorists. Redemptorists were always a missionary and pastoral order, never monastic. I’m confused
I was with the Redemptorists as a lay brother. They are a religious congregation of the Most Holy Redeemer and not an order. They have simple vows and not solemn vows. Their ministry is missionary, giving retreats and more recently taking over parishes. They are not monastic in their practices and do not have the Divine office in choir. Many of them don't even wear the Redemptorist habit these days. They are more like secular priests living in common.
"And as many as walk according to this rule [Greek: kanon], peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God." -- Galatians 6:16
The word "rule" is translated from the Greek word "kanon". Canon of Holy Scriptures is derived from this word. Read all three of these verses carefully. Open your heart and repent. The path to destruction is wide and many will be on it.
I have been a traditionalist and it has worth, but without the inner spiritual (and psychological) change, all the chants, schedules, prayers, and historic decorations is an elaborate hobby.
why is this video taken down? can anybody tell me how i can access it?
"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." -- Isaiah 8:20
"This witness [Bible] is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth." -- Titus 1:13-14
Protestantism is false unbiblical heresy.
"Trent, even gives emphasis that grace(salvation)is not merited." my mistake... erase that..
I have seen how God can touch a heart without faith, but in the end Mary get him to God.
That means the do not claim the new mass is invalid, well good thing they have left the SSPX and joined with the church.
No.
@Oblationem
As well as in personal correspondence, the ICRC has addressed this misrepresentation by several other means. In 1975, the ICRC wrote to the Board of Deputies of British Jews in London regarding Harwood's citations, stating:
The figures cited by the author of the booklet are based upon statistics falsely attributed to us, evidently for the purpose of giving them credibility, despite the fact that we never publish information of this kind.
Hebrews 10:10-12 "By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;"
Jesus Christ by his perfect sacrifice takes away all sin, and where there is remission, there is no more offering for sin. The offering is finished.
❤❤
It makes me sad that the posts here are basically parties throwing insults at each other.
The video shows a a non-believer being touched by a few simple gestures and gifts from those deeply rooted in their faith, and you have reduced it to a juvenile argument over the use of Latin.
V2 did not abolish the use of Latin, it enabled the use of the vernacular.
can anyone tell me which documentary this is from?
So they're SSPX monks? Good!
Not any more
wow how amazing is that! he was so moved! I didn't like the American guy saying he 'earned merit' to gain salvation...perhaps he meant well but his explanation leaves a lot to be desired. Salvation is not earned but given. We receive Faith and we do good works - charitable works on the way to salvation. We aren't brownie point type of people..
Does anyone have the e-link to download this documentary from eMule? Thank you!!!
Deo gratias!
It is the icon of Our Lady of the Passion of Perpetual Succour.
The priest said that the spiritual is as real as the table. But you can see, measure, weigh, touch the table. The spiritual isn't necessarily the way he thinks or believes it is. He believes there is a hell and I don't. If we debate the weight of the table, it can be settled by weighing it. With the spiritual, we have to die to find out who is right.
Hello: First of all, Martin Luther never threw anything out of the Bible. The Reformation was launched primarily on the selling of papal indulgences. The pope wanted to build St. Peter's Basilica and Tetzel was going around selling pardons for past, current, and future sins. Secondly, the book of 2 Maccabees is not part of Scriptures, and was never part of the Old Testament maintained by the Jews.
It does matter because the Church it's Universal and as such should have a Universal Language.
I would recommend you to "experience" the Tridentine Mass and then compare it against the Novus Ordo, you'll have a pleasant surprise.
"Because of His kindness you have been saved through trusting Christ. And even trusting is not of yourselves - it too is a gift from God. Salvation is not a reward for the good that we have done, so none of us can take any credit for it" (Ephesians 2:8, 9).
becasue eternity is now. not past, not future, now!
@3NUNS Did you seriously put under your own description of yourself "Polymath"?
So Is that why I have always had too many choices presented and carried out none and so lead adrift. Yet there was one choice that was underpinning all.
Or is it a Choice?
because eternity is now, not past, not present not future!
I think I was confused by the very last sentence you wrote. You said "... I saw how comfortable my secular Christian life is! Am I lucky?" and so I said "you can consider yourself lucky if you wish to live a secular Christian life." I guess I don't really get what you are trying to say. Are you asking if you are lucky that you live a comfortable life in Christ while others live a more austere life?
Latin presents a constant in terms of understanding the vulgate & many other church documents written with it. The intended meaning & context of each writing is preserved because Latin no longer "evolves" & retains its original meaning through the centuries. We know the context & meaning of the writings because of this constant instead of wondering what the writings mean depending on the evolution of the language every time period. This does not imply, at all, that other languages are inferior.
interersting documentary. Guy who arrived for the night is a bit of a tw at
It was perfect because Christ performed it. Continuing it by man's tradition, is an abomination. It was once offered to all who believe. If you believe a human being can literally make Almighty God out of a flour and water biscuit, that's idolatry. That's error. You might as well mold a golden calf and worship it. It is not continued; "It is finished!"
@tenorismo
"Surrendur to the Latins?"
Bit dramatic really, isn't it? They agreed two things - to change the date they calculated Easter on, and the tonsure of their head shaving for the monks. Both hardly ground shaking events, which even Cummian, an abbot among the Irish contigent, agreed where really trivial. Far more important was uniformity with the rest of the Church which the Irish were a part of as much as anyone else.
A translation of a translation, huh? That sounds more like an interpretation of a translation at best. Jerome also translated from the wrong manuscripts. Well, King James had his team of scholars use the exact Textus Receptus manuscripts. It is the only true translation because it literally translates each word without bias. If the translators needed to add a word for ease of reading, it is italicized. This way the reader can see explicitly what words are translated.
You can’t earn salvation. It is gift of God, through faith alone.
You haven't made a coherent argument. You haven't explained how a common orientation in prayer and a sacred language somehow damage the fact that Christ is received in a meal.
It's when the mystery of the Eucharist is obscured and the Mass becomes a "self-enclosed circle" that people are excluded from a genuine encounter with Christ. The traditional liturgy is intimate and prayerful in a way which has been largely lost.
The Council of Trent describes the process of salvation from sin in the case of an adult with great minuteness (Sess. VI, v-vi). It begins with the grace of God which touches a sinner's heart, and calls him to repentance. This grace cannot be merited; it proceeds solely from the love and mercy of God. Trent, even gives emphasis that grace(salvation)is not merited. They are against tenets that man really cooperates in his personal salvation from sin. (see newadvent website about salvation)
You need to watch some of my videos on "Was Peter the 1st pope." Jesus is the rock, and it was Peter's confession that the church would be built. What was the confession? That Jesus was the Christ. The Son of the Living God. And tried as they did, the Christian Church was never silenced.
God gave us a Religion, and its our obligation to practice it in order to serve him in the way it pleases him.
Is that Emma Thompson narrating?
can scottish catholics listen to gregorian chants ?
Yes
There used to be a time when the Bagpipe be it Irish or Scottish was part of our American culture and local mainstream culture and local parades etc. Today it is for the most part nonexistant...even in marching bands... How can we keep the bagpipe from disappearing from the face of American soil and culture and mainstream culture.
Is that a Luther's book?
With all due respect and the kindness of heart, who tells you that? The people who accept your tithes and offerings for the Vatican? The Bible is explicit. "If they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them." (Isa. 8:20) If anyone comes preaching another gospel, even by an angel from heaven, we are to dismiss it. (Gal. 1:7-8). Jesus warned about so-called traditions in Mark 7:8.
They talked about socks, but what about underwear? Not sure I could bring myself to wear another person's briefs.
The rule of St Benedict suggests that you only wore underwear if you were making a journey. You obtained it from the Abbott and returned it upon your own return
Kurt Gödel I do not suggest that they do. But are redemptorists in fact monks? Clerks Regular I thought
Drawers are a somewhat personal item, even if they are not the personal property of each monk. As Father Michael Mary said, if someone else has need of a pair of the drawers usually assigned to you, they will be given to them.
I don't understand why the Catholic church has to operate in one way. Can't it have different types of worship for different types of people?
bonto We do. What you call types of worship, we call "rites" and within the huge umbrella of the Church there are 24 different rites, defined formally as "the liturgical, theological, spiritual and disciplinary heritage, distinguished according to peoples' culture and historical circumstances, that finds expression in each autonomous church's way of living the faith." These include the Latin rite, which is the largest, and what most of us refer to generically as the "eastern rites". Within the Latin rite we have what is now being called "the extraordinary form" which is what they do at Papa Stronsay and a small number of other places (though there being a strong desire by younger Catholics to return to the old traditions this number has increased dramatically since about the middle of Pope Benedict's reign) and the "ordinary form" of the Mass which was codified in the 1960s and has undergone various alterations periodically since. Another contribution of Pope Benedict was the welcoming of many former Anglicans around the world as Catholics who can retain their own traditions of worship in what we call the "Ordinariate". What is called, not entirely accurately, the "eastern rites" there are all the other ones, and these are often extremely ancient and are usually associated with a local church, many of whom are the native Christian peoples of the Near East, Chaldeans in Iraq and Syria, Maronites from Lebanon, etc. The issue is extremely interesting, since much of it is intimately bound up in some of the most momentous events in human history, and it is all well worth investigating, even without any particular religious purpose, but simply as a cultural study.
Rites : yes
Doctrines : no
You seem to have ignored what I said, and simply repeated your trite, childish line.
There's an intrinsic relationship between prayer and faith, a principle of the ancient Fathers which the Church upholds. Orthopraxis is necessary for orthodox belief.
We we abandon the Church's tradition and invent our own practices, we threaten continuity with the apostolic faith. The theology the Mass reflects is of grave importance, and must not be subject to the whims of each generation.
The visitor seems extremely selfish to me. With a wife and 5 children he re-mortgages _his_ house to buy _himself_ a yacht without even knowing how to sail. He’s thinking about the new car _he’s_ going to buy next week, in the midst of such enormous self denial. He’s so shallow and self centered, that he’s apparently unable to see how much he disrupted and disrupt everything, ripping the Velcro of his jacket, late to the service. And the height of his arrogance was in his comment that they were lying in wait to “get” him!! He’s got no idea that they wouldn’t take him as a gift! Jerk.
I believe he is/was a serial adulterer and member of the landed gentry. Pray that he has had a conversion of heart.
this man sounds like a voyeur, some kind of peeping tom, a critical one at that.
The Novus Ordo is the result of a product of Vatican II and the process of a creation a new Religion.
I've talked to many Vatican II priests, and they are heretics, among a few heresies the believe are:
- All religions are path to Salvation.
- Purgatory doesn't exist.
- Hell doesn't exist.
- It's acceptable to have communion under both forms. (Witnessed this by my self and I am sure that more than one will say that this is ok)
I believe in the Church of more than 2000 years and its dogmas.
The monks are now reconciled with Rome,if not they would be schismatic so are liable to be excommunicated
+Tony Mungall Now they are ALL excumunicated !!!!!!!!!!!
+Star buono You seem happy about this. In fact they follow real Christianity, the traditional Catholic Faith, not the post-Vatican II imposter religion.
The congregation was reconciled to Rome by pope Benedict XIV
bearpapie69 Bearpapie69, You are an idiot.
You would rather for them to abandon Catholicism? Bec you don't like the current Pope? there have been many bad popes in the past yet the Church has withstood for 2000 years, yet here you are wanting people to break away and to leave the 2000 year old Church. You don't seem very Catholic to me
Host likes his drink and here had a little too much.
Thanks youtube for recommending a 14 year old video to me
Clearly u didn't benefit from it. Sad.
It seems to me that your philosophy is hypocritical, as Traditional Catholics are holding on to the teachings of Christ. When quoting Colossians 2:8 it is Protestants and Novus Ordos that cheat with vain deceit according to the traditions of men, according to the elements of the world, and not according to Christ. By their fruits you shall know them eh? Who is the hypocrite twisting scripture to your personal interpretation?
Shame they apostatized from the Roman Catholic Church and joined the novus ordo sect
So is everything ok now between the monks and Rome?
brecans yes
Thank God there are still men on this earth who generously answer God's call to forsake everything that the world would have us aspire to, and point the way to heaven.
These are the Power Houses of Prayer
I was initially drawn to the Franciscan order, but my school master said I would be wasted. Would only be put forward to the Jesuit or Benedictine order. However decided this life was not for me.
Those people pray for all the people of this world, they deeply care about everyone, they are like the best solar system that will ever exist, they are in direct contact with the true power source God and will only do good for all men, women and children of our world
indeed
After the heresy and apostasy of calvinism these men will save Scotland with their example and love.
Heresy is your words! Calvin like Luther and so others before them challenged people like you who tramped over the Holy Scriptures, putting a filthy corruption institution above God Himself.
sa gui learn to spell and write in English
Learn to spell and write in any language....not to mention your misguided beliefs, a testimony of your dumbness ;p
sa gui grow up, You hate Catholics, that is your problem not mine
Me? Never. I love Catholics. You should grow up. You hate the Truth. As simple as that.
I too was in tears. Only 24 hours and he was so touched. Imagine a month. This was an awesome find. I am in the beginning point of my life to enter in the monastic life. If it is GODS plan... I wish to become a monk.
Would love an update on your discernment, and would be pleased to pray for you. Thank you for your vocation! I pray one of my children will follow in your footsteps.
I was affected how touched he was as well. I wonder how I would fair in a similar cloistered environment with nuns (since I'm a girl), I'm rather vain, lazy, and love to sleep and procrastinate but I also enjoy quiet, meditative, and introspective things. I also noticed when I was taking my grad studies in archaeology, during field work where we had a strict timeline/schedule to follow, daily for 2 months, I thrived and felt so healthy more than I ever felt in my life. We left for our hike at 5am, got to the site at 6am, dug until 5pm (w/ lunch and an hour's rest bec of the scorching sun), got back at 6pm and lined up for our baths until we had dinner at 8pm, and a day's recap on the dig site until 10/10:30pm. And finally went to sleep by 12md. And what's strange is I usually need 8-9hrs sleep/day, but during my field trips and the strict schedule, the 5hrs was more than sufficient and I felt invigorated by it somehow.
God bless you Edwin
@jody . Benedictine convent in Largs is a prayerful community. Jesus the Saviour be our companion.
A beautiful life
A blessed life
An eternal life ✨💛❤
AMEN 🙏
Their lives are like a perpetual Catholic retreat. You really have to have God's calling to live like this. It's not for everyone
Shame on those who gave a thumbs down. Lots of love for you 🙏😇💝
Only the pure of heart can see Truth and Love ❤️
I have seen and enjoyed this documentary many times. It is incredible to watch the resistance he had in the beginning until the gift of the Holy Rosary. It was the Blessed Mother who touched his heart ❤️.
I agree with you my sister, I just cannot believe it. God touched his heart a lot.
I agree, the best part of this short film is the ending. You hit it on the nose with your comment. I actually shed a tear myself. May God bless us and help us and may the
Virgin Mary protect us. Amen.
While I was watching this I looked up my name on google after they referenced taking on the name of saints. I figured out that I was named after Saint Aidan of Lindisfarne, the Irish monk who restored Christianity to Northumbria. I never knew where my name came from, and it was absolutely amazing to learn this about myself. It seems almost providential.
Hi! SS_777 Yes, but let it be known that Saint Aiden of Lindisfarne INTRODUCED the Gospel to Northumbria. Up until then, the leaders and their followers were pagans. All the land was forest so, people used boats to travel around the coast.
Beautiful
I visited last summer for 2 nights, wonderful thanks to the community there. An oasis in a crazy world.
These visitors had such a blessing. I cried with them. Their spirits were woken after just 1 day in the presence of God within these Godly men. God bless you all. x
They've never left the Church, they believe what the church has believed for centuries. The modernists are the ones that have left the Church and they are the ones that should come back to the true faith.
Viva Cristo Rey, Viva La Virgen de Guadalupe!!!
what memories. i stayed with them on an island hop in late 2004. amazing people in an amazing place.