Kentucky Derby 2023 Post Position Analysis

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  • Here are Dan Illman and Mike Beer with the 2023 Kentucky Derby post position analysis.
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  • @laynewilkerson2270
    @laynewilkerson2270 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow this race just set up for the deep closers sun thunder and disarm looks like an exacta box to me! It has been fun following graded stakes with you this past year thank you!

  • @DerbyKnowledge93
    @DerbyKnowledge93 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Practical Move has the best post for his running style. The inside, Verifying and Confidence Game will have to go fast early to avoid getting cut off. Kingbarns and Reincarnate will probably try to sit right behind the inside 2, or if one of them breaks alertly, they might just try to make the lead. Tapit Trice will have to hustle but #5 is surely better than #20. He should be ok from there. I just see it tough for Angel of Empire and Forte to get a good early position and it will be tough for either to win. Not sure who I am picking at the moment, I gotta see track probable condition and if anyone is scratched.

    • @Deznutz6969
      @Deznutz6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love Dermas post 17 ,he should get an easy break and be able to go right to the front , If he sets easy fractions its his race to lose.

  • @jsidorable
    @jsidorable ปีที่แล้ว +7

    wow, I totally disagree with you on Verifying. He has the inside all to himself and has plenty of speed to sit just off the early pace. He was right up front in the Blue Grass and TT only beat him with a dream trip.....barely.

    • @arwigley
      @arwigley ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel the same way. I feel like I usually agree with mike’s opinions and surprised he’s taking the opposite opinion of me.

    • @johnfrancis2979
      @johnfrancis2979 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Verifying is a toss for me, he will have to work hard early instead of rating. I had distance concerns with him before the draw. Confidence game is my longshot.

    • @ejbenson
      @ejbenson ปีที่แล้ว

      Cox has a big shot with no "real" baffert. Going to spend my time on race before and after derby. If strong opinion can have great p3 p4 p5 with multiple derby horses

    • @joggyjames
      @joggyjames ปีที่แล้ว

      I like Verifying but TT could have passed him at anytime and certainly did not have a dream trip.

  • @Johnny-mo4xz
    @Johnny-mo4xz ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Skinner

    • @Deznutz6969
      @Deznutz6969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good horse, got him with Derma ,forte ,TT

  • @MrGuitar-gn5ri
    @MrGuitar-gn5ri ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Confidence Game will win this!

  • @STONESGAM
    @STONESGAM ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Two Phil's for the upset win.

  • @deandrewolf5996
    @deandrewolf5996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If confidence game can avoid traffic trouble this horse is going to be coming down the stretch like a freight train and I believe he's going to be the one to win the Kentucky Derby on Saturday

  • @austinthomas9068
    @austinthomas9068 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Forte is tactical and will work out a trip with Irad and the 15 slot. My derby pick

  • @kimberlyferraro3073
    @kimberlyferraro3073 ปีที่แล้ว

    5,8,14 I believed in from the star

  • @cedric9839
    @cedric9839 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a great race. Yes I heard of Forte but there's no money there. I feel it's going to be a horse nobody expects to win. 2019 I got a good price on country house,

  • @joebb11
    @joebb11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dont underestimate bafferts#7 or yahagi horse #20. It's always hard to pick a horse to win this race, that being said number 10 and 15

  • @jall8712
    @jall8712 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boxing 2, 5, 9 and 10 for my Super.

    • @jall8712
      @jall8712 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TANMANTV yeah...I will probably do a wheel and include #3

  • @jameswheeler8622
    @jameswheeler8622 ปีที่แล้ว

    Practical Move.

  • @MmmattF-jp1sw
    @MmmattF-jp1sw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Forte's biggest threat might be next door AOE.gonna be watching these 2 with Irod & Prad.

  • @mickster1780
    @mickster1780 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    was really hoping Derma Sotogake would get a good post but that's pretty far out there. probably takes him out of it. i think the winner comes between Tapit Trice in the 5 post and Forte in the 15

    • @Deznutz6969
      @Deznutz6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did get a good post ,has no speed near him.He s fine and this gate makes it certain tht he will go right to the lead. The whole post position % bs went out the window when they changed the gates twice .

  • @Jeff-it8pi
    @Jeff-it8pi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's hope the horses get to actually run without all the jockeys strangling them back off the pace. Baffert dominates because he let's his horses run and use their speed while everyone else takes back. All the riders are now timid and passive. Nobody wants to go to the lead

    • @danielalexander724
      @danielalexander724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are absolutely right about it, I believe Kings Barn will get the trip of his life

    • @Deznutz6969
      @Deznutz6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol,Derma Sotogake will easily get the lead and set the pace,horse is a beast

  • @willmorrisusa
    @willmorrisusa ปีที่แล้ว

    Rarely does a horse win the KD if not raced as 2 year old. Inexperience for Kingsbarn plus 19 other horses might spook him.....

  • @innopva9973
    @innopva9973 ปีที่แล้ว

    if anybody knows #17 on the saddle has not won. but there has been scratches etc where horse leave in gate 17 that are not numbered 17, any winners from that actual post?

    • @Deznutz6969
      @Deznutz6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      Derma will finally end alot of records ,first Japan horse , first winner from 17 and a few other ones. This horse is gonna be a superstar , I can t wait to see him win a dubia world cup in the future.... 17 with all . all with 17 , tri 17/15 all ect will use forte and skinner in other bets good luck to everyone betting.

  • @kimosabe0073
    @kimosabe0073 ปีที่แล้ว

    TapitTrice in a romp ! already beat verifying the added distance he will love

    • @mikehocking4836
      @mikehocking4836 ปีที่แล้ว

      He barely did

    • @annecgooch
      @annecgooch ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love TT but he breaks lousy. Outside horses gunning it for rail will shuffle him back. He's a big horse and not very handy so if he gets boxed in traffic will be hard for him.

  • @beckyjean9210
    @beckyjean9210 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This year The Curse of Seventeen turns it's poison gaze on Derma Sotogate. Traveling all the way from Japan to face the most dreaded post in Derby history. Good luck !

    • @UncleMike81
      @UncleMike81 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The whole 17 post is more a reflection of the auxiliary gate thats no longer used. No?!

    • @Deznutz6969
      @Deznutz6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UncleMike81 agree 100% said the samething..

    • @Deznutz6969
      @Deznutz6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he got a great post , he has the best early speed and tactical speed ,I see him running a race like big brown .This horse is used to big fields and he ll have no trouble with the post..

  • @Vng370
    @Vng370 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are there not any black jockeys riding in the Kentucky Derby

    • @donaldkloehn6819
      @donaldkloehn6819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not good enough or they would be in here

    • @annecgooch
      @annecgooch ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not too many black jocks. Kendrick Carmouche is one that comes to mind.

    • @dougseigneur
      @dougseigneur ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe not in this day and age because of size and weight concerns but they were very prominent back in the day. You might be quite surprised if you study up on the history of horse racing and the Kentucky Derby in particular..

  • @eddie7151
    @eddie7151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forte and irad all the way

  • @kevin711ks
    @kevin711ks ปีที่แล้ว

    Rosario is a CINCHHHHH

    • @donaldkloehn6819
      @donaldkloehn6819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how can anybody be a cinch!!!!

    • @kevin711ks
      @kevin711ks ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donaldkloehn6819 Rosario will stick it to people.

  • @philipp1966
    @philipp1966 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forte excuse to loose he had little chance anyway

  • @thetony5474
    @thetony5474 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mage will cast a spell from 8 🧙🏻🪄

  • @samiemadia2504
    @samiemadia2504 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skinner