The Biggest Pest For Those Growing Peaches Plums Cherries & Other Stonefruits
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- If you are growing peaches, plums, cherries, apricots, almonds, nectarines, beware of this pest, know its warning signs, and act fast!
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I loved how you turned this catastrophe in your own garden into an opportunity for us to learn how to save ours. Really impressive depth of knowledge.
I have all the respect in the world for you, and I promise I'm not trying to be "that guy" who goes around correcting people. 85% of what you said is true, but a little bit isn't and some we don't have enough information to know. So on behalf of you and others who see this, can I please make some minor points. I own a substantial peach orchard, btw. First, you say with great confidence that the problem is Oriental Fruit Moth. Its likely you are right, but there is one other peach insect that has ALMOST identical larvae, focuses on stone fruits like peaches, and has almost the same effect on trees and fruit. Its called Plum Curculio (it likes peaches as much as plums tho) You can be trained to tell teh difference but most lay people can't. Eventually you will have both insects. Fighting them is the same methods. Also, you mentioned that the OFM live, hide in the cracks in the tree and other places in the tree. There are some bugs that do that, but OFM doesn't (except in the branch tips but that is a different stage). In the OFM life cycle, the larvae "magot" bores into the fruit and then into the seed. That causes the oozing, gel and.or brown crust. Then they bore through the fruit and into the seed. They live in the seed while they feed on it and grow. Eventually this causes the fruit to drop (part of natures plan). Then the larvae bores back out of the seed and fruit and into the dirt. There it lives (not in the tree as you said) until the next spring when it comes back out as moth or PC adult that can fly, and flies back to the tips of branches or the small fruit and starts over again.
Thank you to Luke, and for thecityman1910 taking the time to explain it for us fully. Together our knowledge, our gardens, and our orchards grow.
@@jeanproctor987 Absolutely. And if there is one thing I've learned about orcharding and gardening, its that there is always more to learn! I've been growing gardens for 41 years and orchards for about 16 years and there isn't a year that I don't learn something new! Good luck out there!
Can you help me with methods on taking this on as a lay person? I have a mature tree
@@justinburdette2418 Not sure I understand what you want to take on, but I'm happy to help if I can.
So I have a tree that is mature, it is infested like the video. However all my peaches are infected, not just some bc we just discovered we even had a tree. I only have this one large tree. I guess I need help with figuring out what to do from here. Remove all the peaches and then how do I properly cut the tree back for best care?
Wow I absolutely admire Farmers now! Kudos to farmers, especially organic farmers.
Appreciate you sharing any mistakes as an opportunity to learn. I planted several fruit trees this year so any bit of progress and information as yours are growing really helps as I am in your growing zone as well.
I moved into a house a few years ago with a large, mature peach tree beside it. It bears fruit, but this has been a problem every year. I'm thankful to your video that I know what to do about it now. Thanks. :)
Oh my gosh! Thank you so much! I've been trying to figure out what's wrong with my trees and this is exactly what I'm seeing with my fruit! Now to deal with it! Thank you!
I tried beneficial nematodes in the spring, and had great results
Great video!! I am in my third or fourth year of growing a peach tree. I also have a beehive and was having difficulty sorting out what my problem was and what I could do that would not be harmful to my bees. your video has proved most helpful. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
Be cautious as many pesticides will also kill bees
Thank you so much. Very timely. I saw this issue back in May and had to cull more than 100 small fruits across 3 nectarine and peach trees. Was heart broken. Did not know about pruning. Will do that tomm.
Gardening is a process; a process of growing 100 things, and losing 50 of them. Soon as you accept that, enjoy the other 50 :)
My grandmother always said plant 30% more than what you want to harvest because you might lose some to bugs, groundhogs, rabbits or deer.
This is one of the realest things I’ve heard since I started gardening. Either to storms or pest. I’ve lost a lot of tomatoes....
I disagree slightly. There are ways to push the odds in your favor, such as netting, fruit bags, fencing, soapy water, and more that I continue to strive to learn. Plus people that grow food in greenhouses have almost no losses.
@@ryanwalsh5019 Oh man, the losses I have in my greenhouses!
Slugs, mainly, but I've had immeasurable other unforseen things like incursions of birds, foxes, spider mites, grey mould..!
@@beware_the_moose I mean the large enclosed greenhouses you see from organic farmers. They don't usually experience much loss in those places.
This video is going to be very helpful for me in the future. I battle the vine borers in my pumpkins, but didn't know my peach trees were at risk too. I tried covering the scent of the pumpkins, but some moths were not fooled at all. Lost all my Hubbard vines, they were attached first. Now I'm concerned about my healthy peach trees. I will start aggressive treatment to prevent this next Spring, if the good Lord be willing that I have another Spring. Thank you so much for this video.
That is a different moth/pest.
This may sound ridiculous but I am thinking of hanging marigolds in my peach trees in small containers to disguise the peach tree's odors and repel insects. They will also attract bees for pollination. Something new to try.. if you don't try you don't learn a thing!
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Enjoyed the info. Just planted Peach/ Plum/ Pear trees. Waiting with sprayer in hand.
Try using homemade moth traps that contain water, molasses, apple cider vinegar, dishwashing soap, and ammonia. I use Langer's fruit bottles and hang them in the trellis system that supports my trees and these trap hundreds of moths of various types per trap.
thank you! I'm having issues with our peach trees. do you mind sharing the recipe for the essential oils? I use young living and will try this.
I've been planning on having some peach trees in my yard for years, since I first bought this house. I have been doing research and prepping. I have helped a friend with a little care on their family peach tree. I watched this video a few years ago. Luckily, my friends peach tree has never had this issue. I planted some peach pits from that tree, and this year, they finally sprouted! My neighbor has had a peach tree in their yard since before I moved in, but it isn't very old. I would guess between 7-9 years. Sadly, every single one of my peach saplings has been attacked by this wretched oriental fruit moth. I've checked on those lil babies pretty much every day since they sprouted. I started noticing the flagging just a few days ago. Today, the worst of that fear came true. I remembered watching this a while back, so here I am, re-learning and prepping for damage control. Thank you so much for sharing. Hopefully the neighbor will take steps to help kill the pests as well.
This was one of your very best videos.
This spring I discovered peach borers in my young orchard & my neighbor had them even worse. We applied beneficial nematodes to fight that problem.
Did that work?
"Honey, your box of bees just showed up." "Let them out, will you darling. And do it outside this time."
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Too funny!
When I was much younger, my dad let me put a garden in the backyard of my parents' house. The garden wasn't big; but, I planted a lot of things that I knew I would eat, including okra. I intentionally planted more than I needed so that the bugs would have enough to munch on. When it came time to harvest, there was still plenty for me to harvest and preserve.
i have never had bug prob with my okra ??? i cut ever day in season we can it in soup i use clemson spinless i dont think that makes any. diff. sometime i gat a pod that dont grow right just discard it ------im 87 been growing okra all my adult life zone 7 S. Carolina
@@frankdavidson9675 I lived in southwest Ohio at the time. I have not grown okra since; but, some kind of insect or insects attacked the leaves of all my plants. Some plants had enough damage that the plant could not survive; but, not all plants. This was true no matter what I grew.
This was very very helpful. We have started a peach orchard in Texas. We have 40 trees planted already and will plant more.
I'm implementing several of your ideas & in desperation I've planted lavender under each plum & peach tree ( Moths are supposedly repelled by the aroma of lavender ) Spinosad def. worked last year
has the lavender helped at all?
I had the same issue with my peach trees (2 Red haven and 2 Contender). They were devastated from oriental moth for 4 years. Each tree used to have ton of peaches but all with the same oozing as in this video, and I actually caught many moth on the tree itself. I could not find any help on the internet or any advise on how to fight it efficiently, until, out of despair I sprayed Daconil and that was the end of this twig borer issue. I never heard of anyone or even read anywhere about using Daconil for peach borer, but it worked in my case. I also recently started planting sunflower and Oregano around the trees to attract predatory wasp that feed on moth.
Zino66, When do you spray?
@@gardenjohn1 I follow the instruction on the bottle (before bud swell). Bet let me add that Daconil is a fungicide and I'm not sure why it worked against Oriental Fruit Moth (OFM) in my case. Anyway, for anyone having problem with OFM, I learned these tips also that I started doing it on top of Daconil.
1) I Spray DiPel Pro DF.
2) I also mix molasses and water in a little container and hang it on the tree. OFM is attracted to the smell and they drown inside
This could be the reason why most of my peaches fell on the ground!! They all looked like yours did, I thought the bugs got in once the peaches landed on the ground, this was great knowledge, I'll be looking out for this, this year! Thanks
Excellent! I found two peach sprouting in my compost this spring… and I already use BT on my garden.
Drench the tree with Neem Oil using a hose end sprayer in the spring and also the ground around the tree. Broadcast Epsom salts into the grass and soil around the trees and I do almost my entire yard and gardens especially heavy on wet areas. Hydrogen peroxide in a hose end sprayer also helps. Spray massively and spray other trees around your yard and let rain wash the Neem Oil into the soil.
tried neem it was useless
@@rrssmooth6643 try to apply it in early spring when the flowers are blooming... It is a natural oil so I suppose you don't need to be as careful quantity wise...
Neem oil is gross though
Maybe hotsauce with water hehe or maybe acid water idk mudwash is a thing too
@@rrssmooth6643 what were you trying to get rid of?
Thank you very much! I have been having this problem for years and wasn't sure what was going on. This year I purchased some peach tree spray and the recommended spraying was only three times in a season. I was very vigilant to spray when recommended but it was not effective against the moths. The damage is worse every year. Next year I will spray more frequently. Perhaps through spraying more frequently, the defoliation process and removing the bad fruit I will someday be able to eat my harvest!
Thank you so Luke for this video. I just got peach trees for the first time this year and they are not doing well. What you described is what my trees look like only worse. I tried lasting g up on line what to do for them but couldn’t find anything. I’m afraid I’m to late now for my tree. What do I do next year. Thank you
Nice job Luke! Great explanation! We will keep an eye out as we too have peach trees, cherry trees, plum trees, almond tree (yes, tree), nectarine, and the list goes on. Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for sharing! My aunt's always having problems with her peaches. She's is deciding to start over. This is one fruit I haven't grown yet, but will be trying it out for next year. I will also share the video with her. Thank you for the heads up!
You ain’t lyin. They get me every year. Full of blooms in March, hard time setting in April and what fruit did form gets the worms by May and they all drop.
read my comment on friut flys
Bonide fruit tree spray. I'm in nw SC, and I start spraying early April then continue every two weeks for five total applications. Always lost my fruit to this every year till I started this. No trouble now
5:00 - #Oozing
10:20 - #BT (baccilus something)
11:20 - #EssentialOils #chemicalMasks
Bless you, I have a short attention span 😂
this was so great - i went out there and really looked and identified some sagging and sure enough found some maggots up IN the branches i trimmed. Its because my peach tree does not get enough nutrients and water and so ill take these branches off spray, fertilize and water better
You can make some bat nests in order to ecologically control various insects, including fruit flies / moths.
A large percent of bats do prey on them, so insects naturally avoid them.
There's a plethora of DIY guides to create bat houses and nests and how to attract them.
Excellent idea. HUGS and blessings
Love seeing the lizards on my beans!
I have bats hanging out in an unused section of my barn. Free fertilizer and pest control.
@@lynn6799 free covid too
Time Sensitive Crucial Question about Borers & Gummosis due to Cytospora Canker) I have interrupted mating for my borer issue for the last mating period of the year, but still have a bad infestation ( especially in one huge branch ) i can treat individually the rest and know I should t prune until later in fall BUT I need to take out this branch.
The gummosis due to both jerk issues is especially visible after a big rain & I can easier see which areas are clear and which have frass... however, I hear it is bad to prune when the tree is wet. But also hear I should get rid of peach tree bullies ASAP. Should I remove and treat problem areas even if the tree is wet or wait until it is dried out?
Sorry so long, there were details I had to put so you’d have the fullest info to answer well. And thank you so much for your videos! I love the content, presentation, and delivery
I thought my issues were from an early frost :(
I just dig 6” around my tree and picked out at least 50 borers….I’ve done the best I can and I’m letting it dry where I picked away the dead parts. It’s bad. It’s mid October…do these things overwinter?
Very informative. You seem smart approachable, kind and handsome. It's nice to see a clean-cut attractive man able to speak and talk about gardening. You must enjoy public speaking. I hope I'm not being too forward, but I enjoy your videos. Thanks!
I'm glad you mad this video.I was actually considering asking you what the clear stuff was coming out of my Almond husks on my tree. now I know, and now I know I need to take some actions.
Hi Luke please do a video on essential oil mixtures for vine borers, etc thankyou!
Yes, I’d like to know more about that, too.
I'd like to know more about that, too.
We are having a big problem with our dwarf apple trees. Squirrel’s are climbing the trees and eating all the apples. Is there a way to stop them from eating all our fruit. We are in berkley Michigan not sure how close you are to us. Thank you so much for all the great tips on gardening 👍
Thanks great info. How often do you spray the BT? Every 10 days but for how long?
Really helpful. We have a little dwarf peach tree. Mostly decorative, but my mom wanted the peaches off of it this year and I noticed that a lot of the fruit had the oozing in it. Will have to be a bit more proactive to try to reduce the pest problem since I want to grow regular peach trees too.
I am so glad to see this video now as I have 2 cherry trees and 2 plum trees.
I have a problem with my peach and apricot the fruits is rotting right on the tree any suggestions! Thaks
Great Outstanding Job!!! They say it is a BORE which eats throughthe bark...
The birds and squirrels here in Maryland are trying to throw me off by recommending this video to me.
I have looked continuously and couldn't figure out what was wrong with my peaches. Ty so much. It sounds like I have a job on my hands.
Thank You! This is the first time I have had this problem. So glad to know what the problem is and how to fix it on my young tree.
I have sapping at the trunk of my peach tree. Should I consider it being a rodent instead of a boer. I noticed after I had little to no fruit set. And is it over for my tree?? Definitely need help
Thank. I just saw sonne of that clear slime on my little peaches. Omg i saw this on three of my trees. Thanks
Great vid, thanku for sharing. I saw this vid and finally realized I too shared this problem and I turned to beneficial nematodes, and have had great results, I would recommend.
If bagging your fruit, a paper lunch bag closed with a reusable twist tie will put slightly less plastic into the waste stream. A zip tie can only be used once. Thanks for the information.
FINALLY a real answer! Thank you so much! Blessings
Thank you Adron Lamb
Thank you so much for this! We're moving soon, so I'll forward this to the new buyers, but I'm intrigued with all trees. Sorry you had to go through it, but glad you shared!
❓❓❓ My Peach tree Bloomed beautiful, now a few branches have Curly leaves. Wondering how I can save my tree. Do you have any advice. Thank You
My problem is plum curculio in my plums and perhaps it might doing something to the peaches. But techniques that you mention might also work for the weevil type of Beatle.
I did a little more research and found out some people are using nemetodes such as Steinernema Carpocapsae. I tried bagging fruits and that really wasn't feasible. Anything smaller than a golf ball is hard to get a bag around and one peach broke off, and one was way to high for me to reach.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I’ve had that problem but I didn’t know what it was! I’ll try all what you suggested. Any link where to buy the essential oil? 👍
This was extremely helpful! I'm sure this is the problem we have on our peach trees! Thank you!
What new did you've found out in this fight against oriental fruit moth? I have the same issue.
Luke
Is their a way of netting the trees for safety against pests?
Please do a early pest management video for us future orchard enthusiasts.👍🏻
Thank you for the info
Linda from Ct
Thanks for all the info! I have 2 Massively huge peach trees, that haven’t been producing any fruit. [I’m on a budget] I’ve mixed “Promethrine” diluted in water, in a big pump spray bottle, sprayed my trees from the trunk all the way to the branches & *peaches* . Then I cut off any bad parts I’ve found, any dead limbs, or bug infested areas. I wish I could attach photos. It went from NO PEACHES whatsoever, to thousands of peaches everywhere, I’m still in the middle stages, so the peaches are still green/yellow. 🍑 *Oh & I water my peach trees daily! I noticed that helps them grow too* I’ll keep you updated tho.
what is promethrine where to get it, is this spelled right
What to do with the leaves, bag them and throw in the trash? Thank you great video,I am new to the peach world
Thank you it's a great video. But wouldn't effect the bees during pollinating.
Yay! Essential Oil masks.....that is excellent. Thank you.
Try mating disruption strips for OFM/CM/ PTB.
You are wonderful when planting lots of trees.
Luke, Does this same type of protocol apply equally to all stone fruit trees? or is there any differences? I just realized this video is two years old. Did your methods work and are there any changes you may have made as a followup? Did you rid your orchard of these moths?
What is the predatory wasp for stone fruits? What is the essential oil mask that you can make?
We are here in Michigan and this is our first year on our homestead. We got on site in late winter and were so excited to have an orchard on our property. I noticed a bunch of pectin crystal dots all over our peaches and now I have a decent idea of what the problem is. We have beetles all over our cherry and peach trees. I'm planning to just pull all of the fruit off now and feed it to the chickens. I'm just wondering since we are in summer now, what would be the best way to proceed after pulling off the fruit? Should we clip branches and treat the trees now or wait till fall and start treating them for next year, then?
Ft. Living
Same
So helpful. We get an amazing amount of fruit and it all falls off with all these things by the time the fruit is a half dollar in size.
BioAdvanced Fruit, Citrus & Vegetable Insect Control, Concentrate. I know insecticides are not popular with the Organic crowd, but this product protects my Peach Trees better than anything else mentioned and I have tried them all. I now have worm free peaches with just one application which I apply late February but no later than March first every year here in Southeast Va.. It's well worth it to those that don't have hours every day to tend to fruit trees. I have grape vines and an apple tree and just keeping them pruned is a job during the summer. Rose bushes are another beautiful plant that requires a lot of work to keep them beautiful.
Well what do now if I just missed that window, I just ordered this insecticide today end of April , my fruit is tiny now but looks so good I want to keep them healthy
Thanks. I’m so tired of seeing my tree loaded with wormy apricot. Three years now I can’t get a good harvest.
Can you still eat fruit that has been sprayed with organic pesticides and BT?
Could you tell me the mixture Of mineral oil you use in the water or is it pure? our video was very helpful I have that problem
Thank you
Aaron
What can it mean if my apricot leaves have a combination of some little holes in the leaves, and some of them look like there’s a ‘bite’ out of them? Thanks. Late comment I know🫤
EDIT: they are only 2 years old.
Thanks; My first year with peaches. Very informative and helpful. Birds my problem this year, netting helped. Peaches were small but very good. Would DT spray be a benefit? Thanks again, Dr. D
Can you please give the formulation for the essential oil spray... is it mixed with water and if so, what is the ratio of water to oil and how much of each oil ... all oils equal amount or some greater than the other oils. Thank you
Great video ! I don't even have fruit trees at the moment,yet I will remember this for the future. BTW I love the results from your Trifecta+ . My brother and I have been doing all kinds of comparisons. I kinda feel bad because I am the one who has the Trifecta+ 😎
Hahaha that’s hilarious. Work smarter not harder. Your brother should have got trifecta.
I recently moved into a new house and it's been a great adventure. I have a tree that I took pictures of a few months ago because it had some amazing flowers all over it. I cut the grass this morning and noticed something hanging all over it. I think it's a peach tree. I think I seen a dry seed hanging up there which is probably a bad thing.
You need to get your trees trimmed to the right leaf to fruit ratio, to many leaf will bring in insect and also make your fruit bigger. the tree has to be kept in check. Just a thought! MSU will show this leaf to fruit ratio online.
excellent video..just could not find the direct simply explain information oh how to handle these issues..much appreciation blessings
OMG- I was blaming Japanese beetles. I did have a horrible problem with them, but I didn't realize I was having issues with this, too! Thanks!
Thank you so much my peach tree had a lot flores but no peach and I see the same issues you just shown me thank you I will terminated these bugs for 2021 tks
What to do now at end of August in Arizona? I have oozing in the trunk orange what to do with this, can I save the tree?
Thank you so much Luke!!! I have so much problems with the borers !!!!!
Thank you! Every year I never get 1 single peach! We had 2 last year and they had those maggots, they were so small and had gooey stuff all over the place. My trees also get attacked by black ants.
That just happened to me :'> I've practically given up on the large peach trees and I will just focus on saving the young ones
Same. Get some Tangpe Foot on Amazon and wrap the bottom of the trees with plastic wrap and apply the Tangle Foot. Use a stick or something to apply so you don't get it on your skin. It is sticky and nasty. Kills the ants.
There was another gardener that recommended using Vaseline around the upper base of the tree to keep ants off and just re-apply as needed. Just be sure to apply generously. I tried it and it certainly worked.
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When the peach tree getting borers, I started watering heavily, and all borers go away. But the fruits have been already filled out by maggots - west Sydney.
we use BT against the Gypsy Moths in Michigan also...many municipalities use this in their tree pest programs....
Thanks for all those tips! Do you know if the borers affect these fruits equally across growing zones? I'm in Zone 8b, and just planted 2 young trees last spring. I removed all fruit to let the trees grow in size this year, but noticed one of them still struggled a lot with lots of loss of leaves ... until the chamomile planted underneath started to bloom. Maybe it served as a mask. I didn't spray them with anything, but I do have a little Bt.
You said that these pests are also attracted to almond trees, wouldn't using a spray with almond oil as an ingredient act as an attractant as opposed to a deterrent?
That is a different but similar pest from the cherry fruit fly. Use GF120 (organic) and sulfur, copper zinc and a fungicide on cherries. And calcium.
I used beneficial nematodes in the spring and it really helped with fruit moths and Japanese beetles.
I'd love to see a video on chemical masks, I've had problems with squash vine borers for years and have been looking for a reasonable way to control them.
Yes would be helpful for me as well.
Please! I have a horrible problem with them!
The bucket-like pheromone traps work.
He’s done some written articles. I’ll post in a comment above.
Look.up videos showing injecting bT into the squash vines. I am trying it this year.
i think ive spotted these early on my peach trees. i actually found a maggot IN the tip of some trees and pulled it out? Still cut off the tips? Also can you please link to the BT, and preventitive sprays you used?
We have an infestation, too. Too late this year, but going to try to recover the trees for next year. Thanks for the info, we’re going to try all of these methods.
Michele Luvera me too so sad i planted it for my deceased mom 2 years ago
I'm trying to find the essential oil blend you talked about. Is it in your store or do you just mix it up yourself. How much do you use on each tree? My tree is about 15 feet tall.
We had that problem, until we eventually had to just cut the tree down and burn it. In fact, there was also some kind of fungus that was a problem, too. The tree was on the east side of the house, and I think it didn't get enough air flow. I didn't want to spray, but I sure didn't know what to do except to cut, burn and start over.
@migardener Do you mix water into your squash borer spray? What are the ratios of oils?
Do you dilute the essential oils with water? What is the recipe? Thanks in advance!
I prevent all this by putting mothballs in water and let it sit over night then spray.
I had my trees trimmed but my gardener cut them to short. I didn't not only have any fruit this year but also some of the tree leaves got curly. Could you tell me how can I fix this problem please. Thank you
Your tree is probably just in shock it will loose all its leafs and hopefully recover on its own its a little too late to spray shock substances on it. It probably won't fruit for a full year due to that shock.
What about Kaolin clay spray? Would that prevent some of the adults laying eggs? The peaches would be covered in clay, but it could be washed off. It's not harmful to actually eat some of it. Also, you could just peel the peaches. ALSO: What you show looks a lot like "fly speck" and "sooty mold" which most often occur together. Maybe that's just what we call it in south central PA. Thanks for your great vids!
Great advices ... my issue is my plum tree leaves have bunch of holes on them during late spring/early summer and start falling off. Do you have any methods of treating this?