@@kazahanaedits i have to agree as well. you want the answer on which revenue report is legit. The short answer is none of them, as they all reley on making assumption based on active downloads not actual money. The numbers so high as that Isnt always a good thing it simply means they are getting new moble players at such a high influx, which isnt like as the first month that is when that ussually occurs or whats more then likey happening older players are removing the game frequently do to storage issues patch testing or any other conflictions that they have to redownload it. Which would honestly look speculate to look bad in terms of daily player retention. So no none if actually equates any sense of true income. All its good at realistically doing is hinting at how many people intially uninstalled to have to reinstall. So to repeat none of its true and all of its made up
This website has a disclaimer that states that it is 100% accurate and can be taken at face value without any further research. You know what that means? This website 100% inaccurate and absolutely must NOT be taken at face value and requires a significant amount of further research. The only way you can ever get an accurate earnings report for any company is a quarterly report published by aid company. Unless gacha game developers start publishing their own quarterly earnings reports I am going to press X to doubt on all these revenue websites.
Because of yinlin had rerun and xyl was free before so there was no point in pulling any one of them because they already announced rinascita so everyone was waiting for new banner this is big reason of revenue downfall
I'm pretty sure Kuro expected that to happen, rerun and a previously free resonator on top of saving for 2.0 and yet 5mil on mobile not including PC that's still good for them.
@@erluq9309 Mainly for me I focus in on Wuthering Waves and how the banner sales have been comparing to previous ones as it's still interesting without the whole PVP aspect of it
because the pressure of getting a new character is pretty low (like you don't need to pull every character to have a decent game experience, and the tower is pretty simple for f2p players), and you don't pay as much as what you paid in Hoyo games to get a C6R5 character (the price is halved because you could exchange the chain in the shop, and the revenue is mainly from those who want to optimize a character) besides that, the revenue chart is simply a guess from the IOS ranking trend or other resources and it is 100% NOT accurate, the revenue of WUwa might be underestimated since most of Wuwa players are playing it with PC, and the revenue through PC, no one knows that, except Kuro himself.
That time of the month that ppl wonder how much multi million/billion dollar corporations are making, its not like this is your stocks or crypto and you gain any profit of it...
There is no drama, I go through what they made explain why it's that way (Reruns, good rewards) and why people shouldn't get worked up over this sort of thing, that's it...
The people who are saying this is okay are people who couldn't care less if the game died. This is not okay. The company is bending over and spreading their ass cheeks to look good to the people who are not willing to spend money to support their product. You think the employees there are fine with "just surviving"? Of course not. They had hopes and dreams that this would become their ticket to a better life. Right now, I'm sure many of them are living paycheck to paycheck just so they can pay back the investors with this meager amount of revenue. The company seriously needs to balance how they market their game, and how they operate. The genshin hate is still huge and WuWa is profitting from that, and yet all it can manage is this. They need to step up.
The lvl of Cope is Off the Charts. Revenue speaks volumes in many business. Close to 50% drop revenue will make many stakeholders and investors to back out. Even Tecent drop Tower of Fantasy like a trash once they know they ain't making anymore money. How much more WUWA chance. Version 2.0 is alright but will just be another TOF scenorio.
i hate genshin with a burning passion, and i dont play WuWa for being a "Better" copy of genshin, but still i like WuWa more, but nevertheless the game is slowly dying, EoS is not around the corner but it is not far also, at least im happy games like Ananta, Neverness to Everness, Arknights Endfield and Azur Promilia are coming, they are just going to be better open world games.
As long as they cook ,others don't matter to me . heard EOS every patch too much from the beginning and CEO himelf is saying they will cook hard (cooking hard currently as well )and aslo Tencet is behind them as well rn . for people who always plays gacha games depending on revenue charts wuwa will EOS soon,so move on to the next game jenius .
can some of ya stop coping wuwa is doing fine and its a high quality game but its not gonna outearn the top dogs on the chart which is fine since its still a young game some of the wuwa fans keep denying the low sales compare to top games on the chart and keeps shifting the topic to compare to genshin this compare to zzz that its becoming annoying
Coping? Based on what fact? Sensor Tower? Am I suppose to believe a game that improve their quality tremendously after just 6 months, went on multiple big marketing events and still do marketing collabs in CN, TW, JP, KR is suppose to make less than 10 million a month? Nobody said the game made more than ZZZ or HSR, that's just you projecting, what everyone saying is the numbers are false
@@lukalu-l5f the fact is these charts aren't 100% accurate but they do more or less reflect the sales of the games. Wuthering waves is not the top performing game but it certainly isn't doing well since 2.0 is supposed to be epic and Im expecting wuwa to enter top 5 at least for a week.
The way to know how Wuthering Waves really earns is what it looks like. Their studio has become so big that even in Live Streaming 2.0 the quality they provide is so extraordinary that it surpasses the developers next door who are said to be very rich. Then how did they get the best VA for English and JP, the perfect and stunning Seriosa Song, how did they research a Carlotta Trailer that was truly Perfect. I am very sure, they earn a lot of Money from the Collabs they do Offline. Even Their Income Increased so massively and now have a wealth of $ 1.7b.
Have very bad story,have janky animation,have bad optimization Why kurofans still think this games compete with hoyo?is max delulu Even ur game is so hype doesntmean changes the fact wuwa got quality issue
Remember, tencent owns 51% of the revenue, so that 6mil gonna be 3 mil soon. But don't worry, the game will be saved by the skins release as everyone and their moms will buy the skin, and finally the start of character reruns and the upcoming 2.0 qol will save the game
@@christophealexander3262 we need to stop coping since this has been said many times "wait for Jinhsi, wait for Changli. wait for Shorekeeper etc etc" Its not going to help because many wuwa fans aren't spending money on the game for whatever reason that's just a truth
@@criticalthinker6317 its literally eating so hard this update. especially with the demon girl upcoming later too? also jinshi banner literally sold fine lmao, changli sold less but still good, shorekeeper was understanadble low, update was eh and she is just a better verina
I'm not a wuwa player (I focus on HYV) but it's only mobile + 2.0 is coming. Also the new region looks impressive and has a lot of clout. We could see them hitting constantly $15-20M on mobile (on dead patches)
@@Sao0011bruh, i'm convinced this is just a bot account created by Hoyo to spit out BS. Created 1 month ago. We have the same BS in Russia - Kremlin-bots
I'm wondering if PGR's revenue may have gone up a little?? i know i've started playing recently (due to loving Wuwa so much thought i'd check it out). Perhaps other players like myself have given it a go? it's totally different style of course, but the combat is great with plenty to do in game... i'm really enjoying logging in and playing both games daily
The revenue actually went down for pgr this month, granted we are getting the accelerated patches this month and the very anticipated character luna oblivion is coming next. So it's either people are saving for luna, or they're going f2p because of how much more expensive the game is going to be for this year.
Sorry about me ranting in this comment section. When comparing are just for the sake for sh*tting on each others, the purpose of the outcome doesn't important anymore. We're just as bad as those people we hate as soon as we do the same thing that they do, both side just keeping the hate cycle in check. Imo, we should focus on the game itself more instead of the revenues. It's the developers who should worry about the revenues, and we can't do anything about it too aside from stressing ourselves and boosting the hate even more subconsciously. Since the devs are willing to listen to our feedback and criticism...and we should too play our part as players and gave constructive feedback for them to improve the game. If they fucked up, we all sh*t on the devs together; if the devs cooked, we just compliment them and support them together. All and all, seeing the game we love slowly growing into a success is what everyone wants. I wish to see that too. All the best for you and everyone that pass by this comment, and happy 2025.
I wanna pull Carlotta so fucking bad and I didn't even look up for what she does because I wanna go blind. I have 2 accounts, my main and my brother's one which he dropped after 1.1 sadly.
I mean:we know how bad WuWa actually runs on your average phone thus most of the playerbase is PC...based... And now - PS5... So mobile revenue wouldn't mean anything even if it was 100% real...
tbh most people play wuwa on pc by that like 80% of players so for wuwa specifily this is inacurate as hell imo wuwa if we look all platforms as easly hit 20mil
People who bark about Genshin's revenue being much higher than WuWa's are also the type to say KFC is better than a fine-dining restaurant just coz KFC earns higher revenue 😂😂 peak stupidity 😂😂
They forget long term presence and name brand and being paid to only speak good for them exists. Even as they increase the price of the food or replace parts of the food like using generic bread buns instead of keeping with its sesame ‘signature’ buns, the shills have to keep saying they are good even as the company scalps off the value of the food itself. Thats really just the power of an ‘iconic name status’ really. And it’s also why I end up pursing third party eats/drinks that can end up costing alot less or equal to what the prices the name brands have but give far more better value as a result. Cause I would rather drink Dr.Thunder instead of Diet Coke because the latter not only tastes like very salty cola, but the flavoring difference is very obviously different to boot.
Maybe if Wuwa stans stopped making content about how Genshin is "dead" then Geshin stans wouldn't be so eager to flaunt their game's revenue in your faces.
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I don't think we had any new banners in December, we only had reruns, so it's kinda understandable.
I am not gonna believe any gacha revenue chart after certain bs that occurred
Fair enough
@ sensor tower was a mistake good thing thantontas thanos snapped it from existence
@@kazahanaedits i have to agree as well. you want the answer on which revenue report is legit. The short answer is none of them, as they all reley on making assumption based on active downloads not actual money. The numbers so high as that Isnt always a good thing it simply means they are getting new moble players at such a high influx, which isnt like as the first month that is when that ussually occurs or whats more then likey happening older players are removing the game frequently do to storage issues patch testing or any other conflictions that they have to redownload it. Which would honestly look speculate to look bad in terms of daily player retention. So no none if actually equates any sense of true income. All its good at realistically doing is hinting at how many people intially uninstalled to have to reinstall. So to repeat none of its true and all of its made up
Same, just here for the comments, sorry kazahana i refuse to watch these revenue videos
Its oke gacha revenue is not valid since wuwa flop 👍
Not failing, it's just them sparing players from spending their livelihood away for characters.
Basically them telling players "Hey, save for 2.0"
And the thing is the revenue only tells u how much these games made from players, it says nothing about the quality of those games obviously
This website has a disclaimer that states that it is 100% accurate and can be taken at face value without any further research. You know what that means? This website 100% inaccurate and absolutely must NOT be taken at face value and requires a significant amount of further research. The only way you can ever get an accurate earnings report for any company is a quarterly report published by aid company. Unless gacha game developers start publishing their own quarterly earnings reports I am going to press X to doubt on all these revenue websites.
Greetings, I don't think Kuro is doing so badly over these months Kuro has given away many rewards, that means Kuro is doing very well in his game.
Exactly
f2p player perception vs reality lol
Because of yinlin had rerun and xyl was free before so there was no point in pulling any one of them because they already announced rinascita so everyone was waiting for new banner this is big reason of revenue downfall
I'm pretty sure Kuro expected that to happen, rerun and a previously free resonator on top of saving for 2.0 and yet 5mil on mobile not including PC that's still good for them.
Are we still trusting this for a game's quality basis in 2025?
Nope, like i said in the video lmao
@kazahanaedits my bad, just a bit of a wake up call for everyone in the comments
@@kazahanaeditsThen why cover it?
@@erluq9309 Mainly for me I focus in on Wuthering Waves and how the banner sales have been comparing to previous ones as it's still interesting without the whole PVP aspect of it
wish all this revenue shit can stop, what even is the point looking at how much a gambling game is sucking everyones money?
because the pressure of getting a new character is pretty low (like you don't need to pull every character to have a decent game experience, and the tower is pretty simple for f2p players), and you don't pay as much as what you paid in Hoyo games to get a C6R5 character (the price is halved because you could exchange the chain in the shop, and the revenue is mainly from those who want to optimize a character)
besides that, the revenue chart is simply a guess from the IOS ranking trend or other resources and it is 100% NOT accurate, the revenue of WUwa might be underestimated since most of Wuwa players are playing it with PC, and the revenue through PC, no one knows that, except Kuro himself.
That time of the month that ppl wonder how much multi million/billion dollar corporations are making, its not like this is your stocks or crypto and you gain any profit of it...
Dude all the cc just refuse to make the video about the revenue and you still do this sh*t. We dont want another drama about it anymore
There is no drama, I go through what they made explain why it's that way (Reruns, good rewards) and why people shouldn't get worked up over this sort of thing, that's it...
The people who are saying this is okay are people who couldn't care less if the game died. This is not okay. The company is bending over and spreading their ass cheeks to look good to the people who are not willing to spend money to support their product. You think the employees there are fine with "just surviving"? Of course not. They had hopes and dreams that this would become their ticket to a better life. Right now, I'm sure many of them are living paycheck to paycheck just so they can pay back the investors with this meager amount of revenue. The company seriously needs to balance how they market their game, and how they operate. The genshin hate is still huge and WuWa is profitting from that, and yet all it can manage is this. They need to step up.
WUTHERING WAVES PLEASE DONT FAIL NOW! I ACTUALLY STARTED LIKING PLAYING U!!
Is there really any need to discuss about the revenue when it's quality of content and gameplay far surpasses the one with greater revenue
The lvl of Cope is Off the Charts. Revenue speaks volumes in many business. Close to 50% drop revenue will make many stakeholders and investors to back out. Even Tecent drop Tower of Fantasy like a trash once they know they ain't making anymore money. How much more WUWA chance. Version 2.0 is alright but will just be another TOF scenorio.
i hate genshin with a burning passion, and i dont play WuWa for being a "Better" copy of genshin, but still i like WuWa more, but nevertheless the game is slowly dying, EoS is not around the corner but it is not far also, at least im happy games like Ananta, Neverness to Everness, Arknights Endfield and Azur Promilia are coming, they are just going to be better open world games.
To quote the GOAT himself, "as long as [Kuro] survives, it's good enough".
As long as they cook ,others don't matter to me . heard EOS every patch too much from the beginning and CEO himelf is saying they will cook hard (cooking hard currently as well )and aslo Tencet is behind them as well rn . for people who always plays gacha games depending on revenue charts wuwa will EOS soon,so move on to the next game jenius .
can some of ya stop coping
wuwa is doing fine and its a high quality game but its not gonna outearn the top dogs on the chart which is fine since its still a young game
some of the wuwa fans keep denying the low sales compare to top games on the chart and keeps shifting the topic to compare to genshin this compare to zzz that its becoming annoying
Coping? Based on what fact? Sensor Tower? Am I suppose to believe a game that improve their quality tremendously after just 6 months, went on multiple big marketing events and still do marketing collabs in CN, TW, JP, KR is suppose to make less than 10 million a month? Nobody said the game made more than ZZZ or HSR, that's just you projecting, what everyone saying is the numbers are false
@@lukalu-l5f the fact is these charts aren't 100% accurate but they do more or less reflect the sales of the games. Wuthering waves is not the top performing game but it certainly isn't doing well since 2.0 is supposed to be epic and Im expecting wuwa to enter top 5 at least for a week.
The way to know how Wuthering Waves really earns is what it looks like. Their studio has become so big that even in Live Streaming 2.0 the quality they provide is so extraordinary that it surpasses the developers next door who are said to be very rich. Then how did they get the best VA for English and JP, the perfect and stunning Seriosa Song, how did they research a Carlotta Trailer that was truly Perfect. I am very sure, they earn a lot of Money from the Collabs they do Offline. Even Their Income Increased so massively and now have a wealth of $ 1.7b.
Have very bad story,have janky animation,have bad optimization
Why kurofans still think this games compete with hoyo?is max delulu
Even ur game is so hype doesntmean changes the fact wuwa got quality issue
Fr
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Gameplay is king and wuwa wins
This entire comment stanks lol
this again?
Remember, tencent owns 51% of the revenue, so that 6mil gonna be 3 mil soon. But don't worry, the game will be saved by the skins release as everyone and their moms will buy the skin, and finally the start of character reruns and the upcoming 2.0 qol will save the game
WuWa is reaching EoS quite fast.
Im sure 2.0 will bring money, players just hold their spending
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@@christophealexander3262 we need to stop coping since this has been said many times
"wait for Jinhsi, wait for Changli. wait for Shorekeeper etc etc"
Its not going to help because many wuwa fans aren't spending money on the game for whatever reason that's just a truth
@@criticalthinker6317 its literally eating so hard this update. especially with the demon girl upcoming later too? also jinshi banner literally sold fine lmao, changli sold less but still good, shorekeeper was understanadble low, update was eh and she is just a better verina
Because you get lots of free pulls
Question is how do you know 5 mn is a good revenue? Depends on the cost of capital the company is incurring
I'm not a wuwa player (I focus on HYV) but it's only mobile + 2.0 is coming. Also the new region looks impressive and has a lot of clout. We could see them hitting constantly $15-20M on mobile (on dead patches)
nah its dying, its CCs are more focused on drama content and the game is bland AF
2.0 aint gonna save it
Cope.@@vitrumtars
@@vitrumtars
Cope harder
@@Sao0011bruh, i'm convinced this is just a bot account created by Hoyo to spit out BS. Created 1 month ago.
We have the same BS in Russia - Kremlin-bots
@@vitrumtarsbruh there is a recent revenue spike at the end of the year clearly players are spending for 2.0
I'm wondering if PGR's revenue may have gone up a little?? i know i've started playing recently (due to loving Wuwa so much thought i'd check it out). Perhaps other players like myself have given it a go? it's totally different style of course, but the combat is great with plenty to do in game... i'm really enjoying logging in and playing both games daily
The revenue actually went down for pgr this month, granted we are getting the accelerated patches this month and the very anticipated character luna oblivion is coming next.
So it's either people are saving for luna, or they're going f2p because of how much more expensive the game is going to be for this year.
genshin banner wasn´t chasca, december was neuvilette and zhongli rerun
Sorry about me ranting in this comment section.
When comparing are just for the sake for sh*tting on each others, the purpose of the outcome doesn't important anymore. We're just as bad as those people we hate as soon as we do the same thing that they do, both side just keeping the hate cycle in check.
Imo, we should focus on the game itself more instead of the revenues. It's the developers who should worry about the revenues, and we can't do anything about it too aside from stressing ourselves and boosting the hate even more subconsciously.
Since the devs are willing to listen to our feedback and criticism...and we should too play our part as players and gave constructive feedback for them to improve the game. If they fucked up, we all sh*t on the devs together; if the devs cooked, we just compliment them and support them together.
All and all, seeing the game we love slowly growing into a success is what everyone wants. I wish to see that too. All the best for you and everyone that pass by this comment, and happy 2025.
I wanna pull Carlotta so fucking bad and I didn't even look up for what she does because I wanna go blind. I have 2 accounts, my main and my brother's one which he dropped after 1.1 sadly.
hahahaha, wuwuwawa is so pity, why you all wuwa shill so poor? why can't support your almighty wuwa
Take your meds now hoyotard
I mean:we know how bad WuWa actually runs on your average phone thus most of the playerbase is PC...based...
And now - PS5...
So mobile revenue wouldn't mean anything even if it was 100% real...
Camellya banner massive success... lol
EoS soon... 🤣🤣🤣
6 percent in Philippines someone other than me playing
Keep making gachas revenues videos bro, I want it.
I lost wuthering waves their was just something missing.
Deng, wuwa eos when
tbh most people play wuwa on pc by that like 80% of players so for wuwa specifily this is inacurate as hell imo wuwa if we look all platforms as easly hit 20mil
who even plays wuwa on mobile lol
Me lol my laptop cant handle the game, waiting for my ram and ssd to arrive for upgrade currently play on phone
Me with a Samsung. Runs pretty smooth rn.
People who bark about Genshin's revenue being much higher than WuWa's are also the type to say KFC is better than a fine-dining restaurant just coz KFC earns higher revenue 😂😂 peak stupidity 😂😂
Yeah lol 😂
Perfect analogy
They forget long term presence and name brand and being paid to only speak good for them exists.
Even as they increase the price of the food or replace parts of the food like using generic bread buns instead of keeping with its sesame ‘signature’ buns, the shills have to keep saying they are good even as the company scalps off the value of the food itself.
Thats really just the power of an ‘iconic name status’ really.
And it’s also why I end up pursing third party eats/drinks that can end up costing alot less or equal to what the prices the name brands have but give far more better value as a result.
Cause I would rather drink Dr.Thunder instead of Diet Coke because the latter not only tastes like very salty cola, but the flavoring difference is very obviously different to boot.
it's funny how genshin fans act all high and mighty but still suffering and complaining about slow pace QoL.
Maybe if Wuwa stans stopped making content about how Genshin is "dead" then Geshin stans wouldn't be so eager to flaunt their game's revenue in your faces.