I feel like I would appreciate this a thousand times more if I had even the slightest education in music theory, and especially in Schoenberg's own additions to it. I love, love, love this piece, but I still feel as though I am missing out on something great because I don't understand the musical implications of it.
That you feel drawn to the music is enough - all you need is ears! You may find that you “hear your way into the music” more with repeated listenings. Understanding the basics of music theory, in a very general way, can help you to follow the small-scale development of musical ideas, and to apprehend the large-scale shape of the work. But you don't need any kind of particular training to follow a piece of music like this, any more than you would to enjoy a poem, a dance, or a painting. Whatever you learn along the way about the context of a work will inform your understanding, but studying music theory is only sometimes helpful - sometimes it can get in the way of just hearing what's there.
If you love it then that's all that matters. Understanding the theory behind it probably isn't going to increase your appreciation of it, the same way that it isn't necessary to understand tonal theory to enjoy listening to tonal music. If you are curious about atonal theary then by all means study it and learn, but it isn't necessary to enjoy the piece.
A true masterpiece...
Great music; it grows on you
great
Very good! Bravo
I feel like I would appreciate this a thousand times more if I had even the slightest education in music theory, and especially in Schoenberg's own additions to it.
I love, love, love this piece, but I still feel as though I am missing out on something great because I don't understand the musical implications of it.
Nah, trust me m8 even with a musical theory education it still is atonal jibberish! XD
That you feel drawn to the music is enough - all you need is ears! You may find that you “hear your way into the music” more with repeated listenings. Understanding the basics of music theory, in a very general way, can help you to follow the small-scale development of musical ideas, and to apprehend the large-scale shape of the work. But you don't need any kind of particular training to follow a piece of music like this, any more than you would to enjoy a poem, a dance, or a painting. Whatever you learn along the way about the context of a work will inform your understanding, but studying music theory is only sometimes helpful - sometimes it can get in the way of just hearing what's there.
If you love it then that's all that matters. Understanding the theory behind it probably isn't going to increase your appreciation of it, the same way that it isn't necessary to understand tonal theory to enjoy listening to tonal music. If you are curious about atonal theary then by all means study it and learn, but it isn't necessary to enjoy the piece.
Your comment is [G]ibberish to me
2nd 04:31
I wouldn't worry about that. Listen to what it's saying.
What do you mean?
This sounds better than other pieces by Schömberg.
Totally subjective
Oh serialism you!!!
This might be the most nonsensical piece I have ever heard. Very peculiar experience!
How, it's quite melodic compared to any part of Stockhausen's Licht Cycle, the insanity of which culminates in the Helicopter Quartet
@@coreylapinas1000 I take the helicopter quartet over this every day
@@davidecarlassara8525 because you hate music. It's really that simple.
@@coreylapinas1000 thank you for keeping this conversation respectful