A Genealogy of the State: Quentin Skinner

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  • @sofiahathaway8024
    @sofiahathaway8024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    a book that recently came out called 'Quest for Freedom, An Interview with Quentin Skinner' is really worth reading. I just found it online, and thought I'd share it here:)

    • @chffhgxgc4404
      @chffhgxgc4404 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @vagishium
      @vagishium ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If everyone just commented like you, the comment section would be like a repository associated to the video.

  • @willchurch2813
    @willchurch2813 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is outstanding.

  • @yojaktamang246
    @yojaktamang246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great insights.... helped a lot. Thank you

  • @JaguarDevice
    @JaguarDevice 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Marvellous lecture

  • @pythonplayzz7
    @pythonplayzz7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love from kerala , we listen a lot in my stat....... so pupular there

  • @owenmcgee8496
    @owenmcgee8496 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very good lecture. I remember being in a UCD class in 1997 in which Skinner was a (guest) chair for a student debate on Hobbes, based on a small segment of Leviathan. I, as a complete novice 20 year old, argued that it was significant that Hobbes said that the (representative) person of the state did not have to be a king, but Skinner replied that I was simply wrong: it most definitely had to be a king. Watching this lecture, I'm still not entirely sure why he said that. But perhaps the close of this lecture is a clue. Skinner is one of the best there is for connecting political philosophies with legal histories but, ultimately, I think his perspective is strictly in keeping with his academic affiliation.

    • @0Ave0
      @0Ave0 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps, it may be useful to refer to Carl Schmitt: the decision making abilities of the Sovereign is what determines why he/she is representative of the State.
      From that position, the Sovereign can defend the existence of the State, as they decide on what is an exception. But may be Quentin Skinner may have a different opinion.

    • @JaguarDevice
      @JaguarDevice 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It doesn’t have to be a monarch and Quentin Skinner wouldn’t have said that. Read any of Skinner’s work on Hobbes.

    • @carolynfehr
      @carolynfehr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaguarDevice What, were you there? Smh.

    • @JaguarDevice
      @JaguarDevice ปีที่แล้ว

      No, but I studied Hobbes under Skinner and find it hard to believe he said that. Shake your head if you like

    • @carolynfehr
      @carolynfehr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaguarDevice This wouldn't be the world's first instance of conflict.
      Besides, your doubt comes courtesy of a hypotheticality, while the OP claims a true experience. He gets my vote of confidence.

  • @jimmccue8063
    @jimmccue8063 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "So what has become of the sovereign state? It looks as though it has evaporated." For better or worse, it doesn't look that way any longer.

  • @Kragen-cj2xu
    @Kragen-cj2xu 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can I find this lecture in script, somewhere?

    • @nomos6508
      @nomos6508 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Angelika Karpa thank you!

  • @pingukutepro
    @pingukutepro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm agree with him that whoever said the state is death is premature.

    • @vlad3192
      @vlad3192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      State is dead in libertarian philosophy long ago

    • @gonx9906
      @gonx9906 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@vlad3192and libertarian philosophy is so popular... 😂😂

  • @thomasshirrefs5331
    @thomasshirrefs5331 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't finished the lecture yet I'll say I don't understand why Skinner won't assimilate more completely European tradition in his talks... Does he think it will resonate more with the states if France, Italy and Switzerland are left aside somewhat? Surely we're all Americans these days? Even they would understand the common origin of our political philosophies?

    • @jacobzuiderveen6047
      @jacobzuiderveen6047 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it is to narrow the scope of his inquiry. He mentions but does not delve into the progression of the German idea of the state as it developed the idea of an enlightened dictator. Nor does he mention the evolution of French republicanism and its insistence on universal equality of citizen. He isn't rejecting other notions of the state but only explaining the english language tradition as it uses the term state. He describes the other language traditions in the beginning to describe where the English language tradition comes from. He does a similar thing with his talk on liberty, but it's clear during his talk that he's studied and incorporated other language traditions when he talks about an idea's historical importance to a particular time.

    • @firstal3799
      @firstal3799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      England was where ideas and institutions grew in Europe. Oher euro countries rode its coattails

  • @firstal3799
    @firstal3799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Early 20 th century was optimistic of a world govt so perhaps they overreacted on downfall of sovereign. It was an underlying assumption international govt is inevitable.

  • @landisgallagher
    @landisgallagher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the state began as a kingdom (with slaves) and ended as a sovereign debt republic (with debtors)

  • @firstal3799
    @firstal3799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hobbies clearly the greatest political philosopher.

  • @firstal3799
    @firstal3799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Body language wise professor is clearly uncomfortable talking about multinationals vis a vis developing countries

  • @joshhennen
    @joshhennen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    meet my best friend, "the state", yes i know its imaginary but it promises to take care of all my problems so of course I love it!

    • @galek75
      @galek75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bullshit, its as real as country clubs, libraries, and families.

  • @miladketabi8201
    @miladketabi8201 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Educating and thought provoking. But with multiculturalism, among other factors some of which mentioned in the lecture, “the common good” has itself increasingly become yet another fiction! The fictional state, if my points holds water, whose conceptualisation was meant to legitimise something, itself desperately is in need of justification.

  • @yodrewyt
    @yodrewyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's just like a modern intellectual to begin by denying the possibility of defining the concept he is going to discuss. Now he can put over whatever ideology he wants through his concrete-bound method, while denying having an ideology. As if political science could be non-ideological. Politics is a branch of philosophy. No one can avoid having one as it integrates all our other conceptual knowledge. Which we need in order to live. What a dishonest twat. But, again, that's modern academics for you.

    • @petergeddes6652
      @petergeddes6652 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He doesn't deny having an ideology, does he? at the beginning he criticises attempts to formulate the state that claim to be value-neutral

    • @gonx9906
      @gonx9906 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is making a genealogy of the concept dude, did you even pay attention to the lecture?