sorry you had to go through all this Mike. I'm a firm believer that you sharing all this and the authenticity and genuine intent you've put towards your career and building something meaningful will forever have you on the right side of the universe. Much love
with all the things that went down you can truly see what kind of a person Mike is just a genuine down to earth very caring and loving person, we appreciate you Mike you are blessed in that way and every way and more blessings to come :)
this is so crazy, i cannot wrap my head around all this. but on a (somewhat selfish) note, i finally feel like i can order again from SR and know i’ll get my products cause all the issues have been resolved
This is exactly what I came here to say. Like before it was like idk if I’m trying to pay money and never get shit or get the wrong shit because a lot of my homies had that happen to them. And they were spending like 2-300 a pop
Mike reading off all of Foley’s spending reminds me so much of the scene in Wolf of Wall Street where Jordan’s dad is reading their lunch receipts.. “26 thousand dollars on sides???” 😂😂 You’re a good man Mike. Props to you for handling it the way you have. Keep going.
I remember 2 times ordering and waiting months for what I bought... sent many messages with no responses. Still have not bought since those days. Hearing this I may be willing to purchase again. Mike got burnt bad. glad they are making amends.
Mike the true Steve’s supported you through the Stud days and now through “the lows.” It’s incredibly disgusting to hear that someone so close disrespected you and the Steve’s to the extent he did. Your humble transparency sharing this is why we support you so keep going! We got you to the top🫶🏼 I can’t imagine how cloud9 this next album is going to be!
Seek Jesus with all your heart while he is able to be found in the land of the living. Keep going. These signs shall follow those that believe.. much love Mike. N to the boys.
I'm more upset at your Accounting/Business manager for it taking 24 months to catch onto a $800k per year expense run rate on Foley's credit card with Venmo/Paypal transactions littered all over the bank statements.
@upkeep9703 sadly they can try to fight it but since Foley had permission to use the card it will be hard to deem it as fraud. The bank looks at it as he had permission and it's Mike's fault for not being on top of it and still paying the credit card bill every month
@@JohnMansfield-lv1vu 100% correct. They might have even filed a tax return under this system that was in place. No way Mike wins this lawsuit in my opinion.
Had backstage access in Nashville to your first show of the tour last year. Foley Big Leagued me when I tried to talk to him, instantly wrote him off right there. Everyone else from the Steve’s was amazing as expected. Glad you’ve gone away with the only weasel in the pack. All love Steve thanks for sharing this the right way 🤝
Crazy story, I actually became a fan during the foley times, and then I dealt with some of the product issues! Really hoping the brand keeps progressing!
Such a great story and explanation, I bought one hoodie and took me 6 months to get it. And made me stop buying and that’s no joke. But I rocked the music for sure.
This would be a very rough situation to have to deal with. It should be said that through everything, Jon, Blue, Versace should be greatly appreciated for being the best they can in their respective roles and standing by you and building with you. Salute to the real ones
Went to the show in boulder yearssss ago with my white friends and bought a ‘for the homies~friends’ shirt. Foley was running the table and I couldn’t explain the vibe I got without watching this video. Proud of the moves y’all have made in the midst
My heart goes out to you mike. Wow. I'm glad you're all ok. Congrats on all the successes and goodluck with all your endeavors! I'm praying for the best for everyone, for real. 💯🖤🙏🏼
Steve, super sorry this happened to you. Absolutely brutal situation and props to you for airing it out and putting it to bed. Been rocking with you the last decade, excited for the next wave
Unironically the podcast got hilarious the longer it went when you got into detail about what he was spending. 15K on health and wellness spas?? Homeboy was scheming lmao wtf.
Brother I’ve been listening to you since 2013 ish and you’ve always been a favorite. Your vibe is really a strong one in my life. I’m glad I listened to this. Lifelong Steve.
It's absolutely MIND blowing the accountants never brought this to your attention Mike. Also, and with all due respect, and sorry if I missed this, did you never once check the account and notice all this money being spent?
Sorry this happened to you brudda, ur probably the most pure artist I listen to. Hope everything works out on the legal side. Looking forward to supporting SR for the vision u created.
I am very sorry for ur hard work to be taken for granted and used for someone u took in as family to fuck up. Your story needs to be a warning for every entrepreneur.
I’ve never heard of these guys before this and I watched the whole thing super entertaining but sad that someone you trusted would do that to you. You’ve earned a new fan
Ofcourse accountability is a thing and certain amount of blame has to be taken, but at the same time and most importantly, Don't mentally punish yourself for being a good person and believing in people. Your whole fan base has known the type person that you have been since the beginning. Youve inspired a lot of us. We appreciate the transparencies that way we can continue to grow with you. Keep doing you brother, bigger bump then usual, but still just a bump on your long road of spiritual and financial success.
Only thing I don’t understand is how it took two years to notice how rampant the spending was. If you guys were paying the bills each month how did it take so long to realize he was spending that kind of money
Yeah this is Mike’s fault as much as it was as big fat boy. No way you don’t catch it. Also weird dude is talking about pending legal case this openly. Something is up.
This shit is crazy, bro. Sorry it happened to you. Appreciate, as always, the transparency. Because you know us steve's have really been wondering. Stay up
Been listening to you since "back again" when I was in high school. It seems like the dudes you went on tour with back then, like Jon and blue, are ones that always have your back. Everyone has a bad egg in their group no matter who they are. Its not on you at all. He committed fraud over state lines, so I don't blame you for pursuing legal action. You will come back stronger than ever from this. Your branding is very appealing and popular. Sounds like you have the right people in place now and that brand will continue to soar. It seems to me this is just the beginning of a very successful and long journey for you coming up with the continuous brand support and new music. Wish you guys all the best. Its gotta be insanely tough out here to be independent.
@1:50 this is how i was. Placed an order, never got it. Definitely had me salty. But i still listened to you. This makes a lot of sense. Karma is a mother...
This is 100% the best way to handle this. Fans deserve to know what’s going on, and ultimately will restore confidence for people who stopped supporting SR due to the issues mentioned. Good stuff fellas, happy things are looking up now that the bleeding has been stopped!
Wild. i messaged foley as a hail mary back in the Mike Stud days because i lost my wallet and didnt want to miss the show and he said he put me on a list +1 and i wasn't on any list but his social media and our back and forth messages got us through the door. if you ever come back around, ill deff buy tix this time and grab a some merch.
most of those expenses are also not deductible for tax purposes, which is why the accounting firm was flagging certain expenses, the rest were being moved to a draw account probably in your name. that means not only did he fuck your in terms of stealing money, but also owe the IRS more in taxes.
It all makes sense lmao I remember I won a contest and was supposed to get merch, and tix to a Toronto show, and I was told to DM Foley. Bro never answered me. Big sad. Glad he’s gone
Said hi to him at a concert and he looked like he was disgusted we even talked to him. Also when he said his cha-cha clothing line was for higher class people, I immediately felt alarmed that he would even say that based on the Steves history
When you put someone in charge of something you expect them to adhere to common sense. It’s common sense to know not to blow company’s money on bullshit. & especially use someone else’s money to flex on the gram. Especially someone who’s been rolling with you, like it’s more about having respect for the dude that gave you an opportunity. And using your brain not blowing money that’s not yours. Mike trusted the dude and was betrayed. Jon’s not going around blowing money on stupid shit. So to say it’s mikes fault is absurd when you look at the big picture of the situation.
I worked for my friend and he trusted me and gave me a company card and never did I ever have the thought to use that card to buy designer clothes, fake teeth, luxury rentals. it’s common sense 😂 also having morals. Foley has no morals or respect for himself or anyone else and that’s all by his actions that tells us this.
@@CAMMEDIAPROFoley did bad, has no morals, stole etc. But it is also still mikes fault for allowing him to run wild like that. Both can be true at the same time. Mike clearly has acknowledged the mistake of trusting Foley kicked him out and is righting the wrongs made. It's not Mike's fault in a bad way. It's Mike fault meaning when he realizes where he went wrong he can fix that. It's important to take responsibility that's how you fix stuff
Agree. 100% his fault. Talks of accountability then goes and cries for two hours detailing HIS negligence. I could see a month, but how you don’t notice like a year of that is wild. Also dude talking about open a potential legal case this openly is wild too,
This was crazy. Bro just keep going man!!! On a brighter note if you are in Nashville you and Upchurch need to get together. With what’s happened to you and him you all could probably make some crazy music. His family screwed him and he’s finally coming out the backside of it. Mike. and Upchurch could literally be one crazy ass collaboration!!!
Damn you rarely get an opportunity like this from someone Mike you are right you gave that guy a layup and he fumbled the bag I wish I had an opportunity to that magnitude I would be so grateful
Wild! Always had a weird feeling about him. Came off as a bum from the beginning. His vibes didn’t match the group and was kind of confused how he was part of the team. But glad you were able to air it out and now anyone that works with him in the future will think twice.
Bro it prob worse then you think...I been at a Law firm for 15 years and it almost always worse, but you be good bro in the end...Your better man and business dude now...
This is a swift kick to the ball bag…good thing you’re an ex-baseball player bc most ppl wouldn’t know how to deal with this. Ride the wave baby. So sorry he did you like this but we all know you’ll keep going & evolve #HeyHowAreYa
wild to watch this outcome, when like 8-9 years ago you where talking about replacing foley because he wasn’t showing up on time and getting shit done. karma will get him good for doing this to you and the fam mike.
I’d kill a man to have the opportunity to have access to be a part of this team man. He just through it down the drain tryin to flex on the internet. That shit is crazy bro. I’m glad you found the problem because he never deserved to be on your team.
Damn Mike. You deserved better. Material possessions do NOT define a person, and I think I can speak for most here that 1:08:44 is EXACTLY why we all love ya 🤣🤣 keep goin' in them trenches Mike, and F*** Foley's Tummy. 1:02:17
sorry you had to go through all this Mike. I'm a firm believer that you sharing all this and the authenticity and genuine intent you've put towards your career and building something meaningful will forever have you on the right side of the universe. Much love
with all the things that went down you can truly see what kind of a person Mike is just a genuine down to earth very caring and loving person, we appreciate you Mike you are blessed in that way and every way and more blessings to come :)
Foley is the definition of stepping over $100 to make $50
Step over 100 to lose your soul *
Except he has to pay back $150 lol
This story is sooo crazy. Fraud, embezzlement and even money laundering? WOW. Much love for sharing this, Steve. 🤯🫶🏻
How could someone blow an opportunity to work with mike.?
That’d be the dopest opportunity to ever have.
this is so crazy, i cannot wrap my head around all this.
but on a (somewhat selfish) note, i finally feel like i can order again from SR and know i’ll get my products cause all the issues have been resolved
This is exactly what I came here to say. Like before it was like idk if I’m trying to pay money and never get shit or get the wrong shit because a lot of my homies had that happen to them. And they were spending like 2-300 a pop
Yes! This!
Major Corrections to SR now days and nothing but EXCELLENT service since the Shift. 👏👏
Mike reading off all of Foley’s spending reminds me so much of the scene in Wolf of Wall Street where Jordan’s dad is reading their lunch receipts.. “26 thousand dollars on sides???” 😂😂
You’re a good man Mike. Props to you for handling it the way you have. Keep going.
frrr 😂😂😂😂😂
“It’s in foleys tummy”, sorry bro with how serious this is that was funny
Foley really neva knew and its apparent
loved this. gave it a listen on OS first. lets get Blu on a YNK soon
I remember 2 times ordering and waiting months for what I bought... sent many messages with no responses. Still have not bought since those days. Hearing this I may be willing to purchase again. Mike got burnt bad. glad they are making amends.
Mike the true Steve’s supported you through the Stud days and now through “the lows.” It’s incredibly disgusting to hear that someone so close disrespected you and the Steve’s to the extent he did. Your humble transparency sharing this is why we support you so keep going! We got you to the top🫶🏼 I can’t imagine how cloud9 this next album is going to be!
Insane.. I knew it was crazy, but not to the extent you got into. You’re a solid dude. The Steve’s aren’t goin’ anywhere Mike. We love you.
My respect for you to take this in stride and turn it around and make it right after hearing this has sky rocketed.. I can’t wait to hear the lows now
Seek Jesus with all your heart while he is able to be found in the land of the living. Keep going. These signs shall follow those that believe.. much love Mike. N to the boys.
I'm more upset at your Accounting/Business manager for it taking 24 months to catch onto a $800k per year expense run rate on Foley's credit card with Venmo/Paypal transactions littered all over the bank statements.
100% this should be fraud in itself. Fiduciary duty.
@upkeep9703 sadly they can try to fight it but since Foley had permission to use the card it will be hard to deem it as fraud. The bank looks at it as he had permission and it's Mike's fault for not being on top of it and still paying the credit card bill every month
@@JohnMansfield-lv1vu 100% correct. They might have even filed a tax return under this system that was in place. No way Mike wins this lawsuit in my opinion.
Everybody thinks accountants are boring but this shows why it’s critical to pay for good accounting
Had backstage access in Nashville to your first show of the tour last year. Foley Big Leagued me when I tried to talk to him, instantly wrote him off right there. Everyone else from the Steve’s was amazing as expected. Glad you’ve gone away with the only weasel in the pack. All love Steve thanks for sharing this the right way 🤝
As he should have your bag isn’t different boy!
@@BennyJeters what?
@@realslud you a bum boy and that’s why Foley wasn’t rockin’ wit you! He knew your bag wasn’t gun!
We will always rock with you Mike. Much love! Keep going!
Crazy story, I actually became a fan during the foley times, and then I dealt with some of the product issues! Really hoping the brand keeps progressing!
Just finished watching the entire podcast from start to finish. Damn, I’m speechless.
Such a great story and explanation, I bought one hoodie and took me 6 months to get it. And made me stop buying and that’s no joke. But I rocked the music for sure.
Never let someone else control your money. Ever.
This would be a very rough situation to have to deal with. It should be said that through everything, Jon, Blue, Versace should be greatly appreciated for being the best they can in their respective roles and standing by you and building with you. Salute to the real ones
Went to the show in boulder yearssss ago with my white friends and bought a ‘for the homies~friends’ shirt. Foley was running the table and I couldn’t explain the vibe I got without watching this video.
Proud of the moves y’all have made in the midst
My heart goes out to you mike. Wow. I'm glad you're all ok. Congrats on all the successes and goodluck with all your endeavors! I'm praying for the best for everyone, for real. 💯🖤🙏🏼
and Mike idk where I'd be in life without you. thank you for everything.
I ordered two hoodies and two hats last October and never seen a thing. Had to be foley flying first class 😢
Hahaha they got your ass bruh! Hahaha
Just when you think you know someone .. you really do never know ..
This is honestly crazier than I thought it was going to be lmao
Steve, super sorry this happened to you. Absolutely brutal situation and props to you for airing it out and putting it to bed. Been rocking with you the last decade, excited for the next wave
Unironically the podcast got hilarious the longer it went when you got into detail about what he was spending. 15K on health and wellness spas?? Homeboy was scheming lmao wtf.
Been listening since 2011 Steve and I know how genuine you are and care about the fan. Keep ppl in check and thank you for not giving up! Much love💪🏼
much love mike! crazy to hear shocked about it all.. we all learn who our tru friends are man unfortunatly
Lots of good life lessons on this episode. Thanks for sharing Mike.
Onto bigger and better things, proud of you. No one deserves this.
Hey how r ya
My gosh Amanda! 🤤
Much love mike. Keep going! There’s always a blessing on the other side of a perceived setback! Salute and respect ✊🏼 ✌️🙏🏻🥂💪🏁🌊
that venmo thing sounds like money laundering
Brother I’ve been listening to you since 2013 ish and you’ve always been a favorite. Your vibe is really a strong one in my life. I’m glad I listened to this. Lifelong Steve.
It's absolutely MIND blowing the accountants never brought this to your attention Mike. Also, and with all due respect, and sorry if I missed this, did you never once check the account and notice all this money being spent?
That was my first thought but evidently he was making so much money 600k wasn’t noticed
Yeah for real they must have been getting a kick back or something.. Mike is crazy for letting it slide haha
Sorry this happened to you brudda, ur probably the most pure artist I listen to. Hope everything works out on the legal side. Looking forward to supporting SR for the vision u created.
You'll get through this stronger on the other end! Thanks for sharing
Sad thing is that 20k chrome hearts was prolly for a SINGLE hoodie
Always felt the SR Roley wasnt Steves idea lol
Been wondering for a while why it said 'blowing deals' on the live version of like blood, makes sense now what a cowboy.
He was in fact not in Nashville closing deals
I am very sorry for ur hard work to be taken for granted and used for someone u took in as family to fuck up. Your story needs to be a warning for every entrepreneur.
Jon Kilmer.. what a best friend. The opportunity to work in Mike’s team would be a tidal wave fr
pretty good inspiration for the lows 😎
been a fan since 2013 man, all will come together time will tell all! all will prevail man! just know be the best you and man you will always win
I’ve never heard of these guys before this and I watched the whole thing super entertaining but sad that someone you trusted would do that to you. You’ve earned a new fan
MORALS AND RESPECT AT THE END OF THE DAY MUCH LOVE EVEY STEVE OUT THERE
Let’s go Steve. We’re rockin with the team, so stoked for the new shit
Ofcourse accountability is a thing and certain amount of blame has to be taken, but at the same time and most importantly, Don't mentally punish yourself for being a good person and believing in people. Your whole fan base has known the type person that you have been since the beginning. Youve inspired a lot of us. We appreciate the transparencies that way we can continue to grow with you. Keep doing you brother, bigger bump then usual, but still just a bump on your long road of spiritual and financial success.
Good will prevail and the truth will set you free stay solid out there steve KEEP GOING! ✌🏽
Foley is the Steiny of Nelk
I've enjoyed being a steve and part of the journey. Keepgoing.
That chrome hearts shirt from the Rodman video was definitely in that 8k purchase 😂
Only thing I don’t understand is how it took two years to notice how rampant the spending was. If you guys were paying the bills each month how did it take so long to realize he was spending that kind of money
This is what happens when you’re boozing and partying too much. It doesn’t make any sense.
i mean if you actually watch the pod he explains everything and takes accountability for it bru
Yeah this is Mike’s fault as much as it was as big fat boy. No way you don’t catch it. Also weird dude is talking about pending legal case this openly. Something is up.
This shit is crazy, bro. Sorry it happened to you. Appreciate, as always, the transparency. Because you know us steve's have really been wondering. Stay up
Been listening to you since "back again" when I was in high school. It seems like the dudes you went on tour with back then, like Jon and blue, are ones that always have your back. Everyone has a bad egg in their group no matter who they are. Its not on you at all. He committed fraud over state lines, so I don't blame you for pursuing legal action. You will come back stronger than ever from this. Your branding is very appealing and popular. Sounds like you have the right people in place now and that brand will continue to soar. It seems to me this is just the beginning of a very successful and long journey for you coming up with the continuous brand support and new music. Wish you guys all the best. Its gotta be insanely tough out here to be independent.
Everyone is the hero of their own story
steves going crazy in 2023-24! we rocking through this.. I bounce back, not the check, you can cash that.., uhyuready!
35 minutes in and we're *finally* getting toward the grand deception.
@1:50 this is how i was. Placed an order, never got it. Definitely had me salty. But i still listened to you. This makes a lot of sense. Karma is a mother...
Hahaha got ripped off and still bumpski’d haha you a cuck hype!
Mike, when you were taking about learning about your spirituality and things if that nature where did you start?
This is 100% the best way to handle this. Fans deserve to know what’s going on, and ultimately will restore confidence for people who stopped supporting SR due to the issues mentioned. Good stuff fellas, happy things are looking up now that the bleeding has been stopped!
Here for it
real friends are hard to come by for real! best of luck much love, 4 the REAL HOMIES!!!
Wild. i messaged foley as a hail mary back in the Mike Stud days because i lost my wallet and didnt want to miss the show and he said he put me on a list +1 and i wasn't on any list but his social media and our back and forth messages got us through the door. if you ever come back around, ill deff buy tix this time and grab a some merch.
Hahah Foley got you too? Big boy just ordered some treats and some postmates for him and his bitch!
most of those expenses are also not deductible for tax purposes, which is why the accounting firm was flagging certain expenses, the rest were being moved to a draw account probably in your name. that means not only did he fuck your in terms of stealing money, but also owe the IRS more in taxes.
It all makes sense lmao I remember I won a contest and was supposed to get merch, and tix to a Toronto show, and I was told to DM Foley. Bro never answered me. Big sad. Glad he’s gone
get this man his merch ASAP
Said hi to him at a concert and he looked like he was disgusted we even talked to him. Also when he said his cha-cha clothing line was for higher class people, I immediately felt alarmed that he would even say that based on the Steves history
This is mikes fault I feel bad for him but like he said himself.. accountability
100%… it’s your company, he’s literally trying to save his own ass.
When you put someone in charge of something you expect them to adhere to common sense.
It’s common sense to know not to blow company’s money on bullshit. & especially use someone else’s money to flex on the gram.
Especially someone who’s been rolling with you, like it’s more about having respect for the dude that gave you an opportunity. And using your brain not blowing money that’s not yours.
Mike trusted the dude and was betrayed.
Jon’s not going around blowing money on stupid shit.
So to say it’s mikes fault is absurd when you look at the big picture of the situation.
I worked for my friend and he trusted me and gave me a company card and never did I ever have the thought to use that card to buy designer clothes, fake teeth, luxury rentals.
it’s common sense 😂 also having morals.
Foley has no morals or respect for himself or anyone else and that’s all by his actions that tells us this.
@@CAMMEDIAPROFoley did bad, has no morals, stole etc. But it is also still mikes fault for allowing him to run wild like that. Both can be true at the same time. Mike clearly has acknowledged the mistake of trusting Foley kicked him out and is righting the wrongs made.
It's not Mike's fault in a bad way. It's Mike fault meaning when he realizes where he went wrong he can fix that. It's important to take responsibility that's how you fix stuff
Agree. 100% his fault. Talks of accountability then goes and cries for two hours detailing HIS negligence. I could see a month, but how you don’t notice like a year of that is wild. Also dude talking about open a potential legal case this openly is wild too,
This is crazy both legally and friendship wise, very eye-opening. Fuck foley honestly, the ethics and embezzlement are beyond outta pocket.
Literally saw foley the first day I was in Nashville last year lol. Crazy all this shit was going on.
The send back shit on Venmo is crazy
This was crazy. Bro just keep going man!!! On a brighter note if you are in Nashville you and Upchurch need to get together. With what’s happened to you and him you all could probably make some crazy music. His family screwed him and he’s finally coming out the backside of it. Mike. and Upchurch could literally be one crazy ass collaboration!!!
Keep going!
Damn you rarely get an opportunity like this from someone Mike you are right you gave that guy a layup and he fumbled the bag I wish I had an opportunity to that magnitude I would be so grateful
Wild! Always had a weird feeling about him. Came off as a bum from the beginning. His vibes didn’t match the group and was kind of confused how he was part of the team. But glad you were able to air it out and now anyone that works with him in the future will think twice.
Bro it prob worse then you think...I been at a Law firm for 15 years and it almost always worse, but you be good bro in the end...Your better man and business dude now...
mike is such a geniune dude the steves will never leave the ranch
This is a swift kick to the ball bag…good thing you’re an ex-baseball player bc most ppl wouldn’t know how to deal with this. Ride the wave baby.
So sorry he did you like this but we all know you’ll keep going & evolve #HeyHowAreYa
IM A 88 BABY SO MAN IT ALL ABOUT EVOLVING MAN I FEELING OLD AS HELL BUT LIFE IS GOOD! THANKS TO THE STEVES
I’m glad I watched this. I lost hope during this nonsense, felt like Steve’s didn’t care. LFG.
This is so crazy. Keep ya head up Steve. You the man, sorry this shit show went down brotha
I have been rocking with you since you had a t.v. show years and years ago bro
wild to watch this outcome, when like 8-9 years ago you where talking about replacing foley because he wasn’t showing up on time and getting shit done. karma will get him good for doing this to you and the fam mike.
I can be the next version of Foley. Put me in coach, I'm ready to play. I got the music to go with the ethos
When I bought merch on the last tour in Philly I thought I was supporting Mike not paying for uber eats for fat Foley
Foley needs to listen to the brute space “the pits of fake it til you make it” asap
SHOUTING OUT FROM DALLAS TEXAS!!
I’d kill a man to have the opportunity to have access to be a part of this team man. He just through it down the drain tryin to flex on the internet. That shit is crazy bro. I’m glad you found the problem because he never deserved to be on your team.
Damn Mike. You deserved better. Material possessions do NOT define a person, and I think I can speak for most here that 1:08:44 is EXACTLY why we all love ya 🤣🤣 keep goin' in them trenches Mike, and F*** Foley's Tummy. 1:02:17
600k is fucking crazy
Finish strong!
Hearing this as an educator living on my salary makes me sick lol.
bro i'm scared to use my company card for my own business literally anything cause I think the IRS is gonna come get me lmao
Damn, Foley was getting hooks with the merch money.