careful what you wish for, according to Peasant Suppression Weekly if we keep innovating too fast the money men will pull the plug with a dystopian post war world of 1984 with afew enjoying tech and the masses living in squalor..
lol. Yeah, even if only 1 in 20 of these advancements makes it to market, we're still gonna have bright future simply because there are now hundreds of companies researching new battery tech and financing has hit critical mass. Obviously, about 95 percent of these announcements haven't made it to market, but many have. LFP was first released in 2019 and has taken 31 percent of the EV market in just 4 years. 83 percent of new grid installments are LFP and nearly 100 percent of home storage. Sodium Ion has just hit the market in EV's and there's now almost 30 factories worldwide under construction specifically for sodium ion batteries. CATL's LMFP battery was released last year in China and is expected in the US mid year with some pretty good improvements. Various forms of flow batteries are also starting to gain traction. So yeah, most of these will not come to market, but some will.
Zinc Bromide flow/plating batteries were developed in Australia by Redflow. They require you to totally discharge the battery on a regular schedule so you operate with two banks of batteries (or two batteries, depending on how much power you want to store). One battery has a capacity of 10kWh, This completely eliminates the problem of dendrite formation as the Zn which has been plated on to the horizontal carbon-dosed plastic plates during charge is completely stripped off during a full discharge. Their life time is said to be very long. The only moving part is a pump and the electronics allow you to use the power even when the grid shuts down, unlike some systems. The other ZnBr2 battery developed in Australia is the gel battery by Gelion. I haven't been able to find out what its characteristics are but one interesting fact is that it can be manufactured in a Lead Acid factory with relatively minor modifications to the system. Both should be fairly inexpensive if they get market share.
There is certainly a lot of work and research going into battery design and chemistry. Eventually we will come up with a perfect solution. Thanks for all of your hard work putting your videos together. I enjoy them and appreciate it very much.
I enjoy Sam's posts. I try to watch everyone he posts, but it is like standing with your mouth open in front of a fire hose with all the information he imparts. As long as I can swallow I'm going to keep drinking. Thanks Sam. Mind blown as usual.
Don't fall for it. Every five minutes somebody else comes up with the next new "ten times better" battery. I've been hearing this since 2000. So where's the battery? The only battery that has emerged is the li-ion and despite the billions put into its r & d, it is not a safe product. So like they use to say in the old Wendy's commercials...."Where's The Beef"?
@@mattrowan2680 I think you need to take a look at battery density, price and capabilities since 2000, there are charts to break it down for you. If you do you'll instantly see the dramatic improvements made in a relatively short period of time. Since 1991 battery prices have fallen 97 percent per kwh. Since 2000 since you brought up that date, they've fallen 93 percent. They fell 30 percent last year and are expected to fall a further 40 percent in the next 2 years. At the same time battery density has increased 3 to 4 times and charging has improved from 17kwh in 2008 to 350kwh today a 20 times improvement. BP is rolling out 400kwh chargers and there are 700kwh being tested by NXU. CATL and BYD have both announced batteries capable of 500kwh+ charging. Technology never stops and this is far from the end of the road for battery development.
Large Zinc-Carbon batteries were used by the PMG in the 1940's to power the external telephone bells in commercial premises. These lasted for years but were not rechargeable. Yes, they were very safe, that is now the most important criteria.
When I was a kid we had big 6V Carbon Zinc batteries to power "stuff". Then the D cell came out, they were not recargable but very safe. I hope they can make this gel cheaply.
Nonrechargable zinc air batteries have been around for about 40 years, they hav offered the benifits of lighter weight and longer life, however there were current limits. In Hospitals they were great for telemetry transmitters as they diddent have to be changed as offten.
The more abundant an element and the less damaging to the environment (including us) its extraction and exploitation, the better, even if its properties aren't the best. I'm all for sodium vs. lithium, because of its abundance and innocuity. Zinc is less abundant but more than lithium, if I'm not wrong. Auxiliary elements and compounds necessary for the primary one also are equally important.
Just a note. The German post office powered big Mercedes vans with zinc air batteries in a pilot project around 1995. It was a bit tedious. The zinc oxide from the spent batteries was regenerated and reloaded into cartridges and returned to the van on night shift. It worked but round trip efficiency seems to be about 60% and labor was likely high. Thanks Sam!
SUGGESTION: Sam, the music you put at the end of some of your videos has a huge increase in volume, which is quite jarring. Please match VU meter settings so that does not happen.
Agree, I like to listen to several episodes at a time as a "mix", and the crappy irritating loud music at the end is terrible. Is this a ploy to make the video longer to get around a YT algo?
@@lefturn99 It wasnt crappy nor terrible, what, you want a show about battery tech that is more like a mix of battery tech and the old 80's tv show that lasted 6 months but was funny as hell like a mix of hill street blues and fame called CopRock? Ok, maybe that would be entertaining, but whatever man, have it your way.
@@lefturn99 You know who would listen to several episodes at a time as a mix as you suggested? Data from star trek was into that. The downloading of multiple streams of consciousness at the same time. You have a remarkable talent.
Good info as always, Sam! By the way, your microphone is coming through very soft. Any way you can boost the sound of your voice, to the level of the music at the end? Thanks again.
Interesting how different life is. For me charging time, capacity, size and weight have been the interesting points with batteries. But seems that for others it’s if you can get your bike on a plane or not.
EOS energy Zinc batteries is the way to go... So cheap and reliable, no moving parts and longest life for any alternatives... So cheap; it is now possible to backup the whole grid, it is not a dream anymore... they've got a loan over 500 mil usd from US DOE in September, now building 2 serial production lines, 3 and 4 are on the way... I believe EOSE is the best large scale battery manufacturer to invest in... I did along with AMPX (which is the best high energy density battery alternative)
The more solutions, the better. It means a better fit in more situations, and greater competition. It also means there should be more protection against commodity price manipulation.
My grandfather used to always say that, but i never knew who he was talking about about, col blimey mustve been someone or core bloimey really something though, the english are always mentioning about. What does that even mean? He always said it during times of frustration or bewilderment. Things that contributed to my dyslexia, being directly related to english people.
Interesting subject, I'll be hoping to see zinc batteries back in the market, rechargeable and cheaper. The video's audio level is too low, though. I had to push up the volume to the top and, then, boom, the closing music exploded! Really bad editing. You should fix the audio level and replace the video. EDIT: after a little research, I found out that rechargeable zinc batteries have been in development for about a decade and nothing came out yet. I seriously doubt it'll even be available.
I DuPont bought the rights from French man that made a battery that holds charge for lifetime! We heard about this in college when we were studying copyright laws,patents and other things. Does anyone remember?
Because everything has to be tested and checked many, many times. Look at Samsung, it's battery fires was years ago but everyone remembers that like yesterday.
Was this all of Australia? Or was it only certain Australians? I mean, if everybody in the country is involved, that's awesome. It just seems unlikely.
I worry that allowing batteries on passenger planes is a nightmare waiting to happen. This opens up the possibility for dangerous people to create havoc with a label change and the right circuit to trigger an event in the luggage area to cause a plane to fall out of the sky
Whats the point? You have Na batteries that can do this a whole lot better? Cheaper and can copy anything Li can do for the most part? Seems silly to me other than just to improve them I guess, but for anything else - Na will be the future for that. Let alone NA already supports solid state making them smaller and lighter - along with being safer. Follow up by new materals like S and Si that can double their power dens from 140 to well over 300 and more.
About a hundred years ago we had a working battery that had a lifespan in DECADES! some remained in industrial operation for 60 to 80 years. Why are they not being used? Oh, yeah, they did not use acid or Lithium. Why are you trying to re-invent the wheel????
in next 40 years we might see these batteries in a car. Wake me up when my iphone will last for a week, because only reason now to buy a new iphone is cos of battery degradation. There are so many breakthroughs these days and we still have same batteries EVERYWHERE. These concepts are only that. You can't see it anywhere else but in a youtube video
The second we actually get markedly better battery tech the next phone using it will either use a smaller battery, be higher power, or both, so you'll still only get a day out of it..
Yeah Sam: no. LFPs are the present. Sodium-Ion are the future. And: there literally is also no alternative compared to electric motors. People still aren't aware about their efficiency, durability, how precisely and creatively they can be controlled - and how easy they get manufactured compared to ICEs.
To all the haters... Imagine being a scientist in battery tech. Including CATL employers with leading labs and tech. This guy does break things down to diversify their thinking or even get a good laugh.
Can we just stop with all the battery speculation crap. How about we wait until they can actually manufacture at scale and cost and actually have a product on the market.... otherwise it's just EV hype BS. Remember how graphene was the "next big thing"...where the hell is that now?
Any smart person will wait a decade until the tech is better not sold on lithium and current battery technology to make me move from my diesel turbo vehicle
Ni-Zn batteries have been available for over 120 years. They use the same NiO-OH plates and the same KOH electrolyte as the other Nickel-something batteries, of which there are many. They are all OLD. Sam is once again digging in the history books to find material for more videos. The biggest problem with zinc cells is that with other than optimal recharge current, one either gets dendrites(spikey things) that short out the cell or mossy deposits, which don't conduct well. Ni-Zn has been the next great thing for 120 years now.
Why don't you EV fanatics just admit we are nowhere near having the battery component of EV's figured out yet, ecery week Sam is telling us here is the next solution in battery tech. It's getting old and boring now and obviously they still haven't found it yet.
Same as "This new engine will be better than the last", there will always be a better something. The research will help your phone last longer between charges, is that a bad thing ?
@owainbennett663 well in 25 years mobile phone tech hasn't improved. Phones 25 years ago lasted 1 to 2 days at best. Today with all the amazing tech we have phones still only last 1 or 2 days on a charge. I'll believe it when I see it
@Car-crazy Wrong mindset. Computer technology has outstripped the speed of the battery technology. Your phone has over 1000x the power what was used in the Apollo mission.
@@owainbennett663 yes I know that. But still doesn't change anything. The fact of the matter is battery tech has not improved by any marginal amounts. Rather the tech has improved making battery power management better. But at the end of day battery tech has reached its limits with the current battery tech. Unless a completely new material is discovered or invented there will be no improvement on what we currently have. Physics will tell you this....there is only so much energy available from a cell, you can not get more out of it than physically possible. This is what so many people fail to grasps or understand. Like I said in 25 years battery tech really hasn't improved, just the electronics that manage the power has. Now that has also platooned. The only way to improve battery tech by any large amount is the invention or discovery if a new material. Everything that can be tried, has been tried. And even if eventually they make a battery that lasts longer the infrastructure in most countries can not handle all the extra power required. This is also a physical fact that so many people fail to grasp.
I can’t wait for the next earth shattering breakthrough announced tomorrow…
Lol I love it. Game Changer
L😂L
*"Earth Shattering Discovery"* 😳
careful what you wish for, according to Peasant Suppression Weekly if we keep innovating too fast the money men will pull the plug with a dystopian post war world of 1984 with afew enjoying tech and the masses living in squalor..
lol. Yeah, even if only 1 in 20 of these advancements makes it to market, we're still gonna have bright future simply because there are now hundreds of companies researching new battery tech and financing has hit critical mass. Obviously, about 95 percent of these announcements haven't made it to market, but many have. LFP was first released in 2019 and has taken 31 percent of the EV market in just 4 years. 83 percent of new grid installments are LFP and nearly 100 percent of home storage. Sodium Ion has just hit the market in EV's and there's now almost 30 factories worldwide under construction specifically for sodium ion batteries. CATL's LMFP battery was released last year in China and is expected in the US mid year with some pretty good improvements. Various forms of flow batteries are also starting to gain traction. So yeah, most of these will not come to market, but some will.
It's coming soon, any time soon. Lol.
Zinc Bromide flow/plating batteries were developed in Australia by Redflow. They require you to totally discharge the battery on a regular schedule so you operate with two banks of batteries (or two batteries, depending on how much power you want to store). One battery has a capacity of 10kWh, This completely eliminates the problem of dendrite formation as the Zn which has been plated on to the horizontal carbon-dosed plastic plates during charge is completely stripped off during a full discharge. Their life time is said to be very long. The only moving part is a pump and the electronics allow you to use the power even when the grid shuts down, unlike some systems. The other ZnBr2 battery developed in Australia is the gel battery by Gelion. I haven't been able to find out what its characteristics are but one interesting fact is that it can be manufactured in a Lead Acid factory with relatively minor modifications to the system. Both should be fairly inexpensive if they get market share.
thanks for sharing
There is certainly a lot of work and research going into battery design and chemistry. Eventually we will come up with a perfect solution. Thanks for all of your hard work putting your videos together. I enjoy them and appreciate it very much.
I enjoy Sam's posts. I try to watch everyone he posts, but it is like standing with your mouth open in front of a fire hose with all the information he imparts. As long as I can swallow I'm going to keep drinking. Thanks Sam. Mind blown as usual.
We have multiple solutions, with different characteristics. One size does not fit all.
Don't fall for it. Every five minutes somebody else comes up with the next new "ten times better" battery. I've been hearing this since 2000. So where's the battery? The only battery that has emerged is the li-ion and despite the billions put into its r & d, it is not a safe product. So like they use to say in the old Wendy's commercials...."Where's The Beef"?
@@mattrowan2680 I think you need to take a look at battery density, price and capabilities since 2000, there are charts to break it down for you. If you do you'll instantly see the dramatic improvements made in a relatively short period of time. Since 1991 battery prices have fallen 97 percent per kwh. Since 2000 since you brought up that date, they've fallen 93 percent. They fell 30 percent last year and are expected to fall a further 40 percent in the next 2 years. At the same time battery density has increased 3 to 4 times and charging has improved from 17kwh in 2008 to 350kwh today a 20 times improvement. BP is rolling out 400kwh chargers and there are 700kwh being tested by NXU. CATL and BYD have both announced batteries capable of 500kwh+ charging. Technology never stops and this is far from the end of the road for battery development.
Another day another battery breakthrough
Large Zinc-Carbon batteries were used by the PMG in the 1940's to power the external telephone bells in commercial premises. These lasted for years but were not rechargeable. Yes, they were very safe, that is now the most important criteria.
When I was a kid we had big 6V Carbon Zinc batteries to power "stuff". Then the D cell came out, they were not recargable but very safe. I hope they can make this gel cheaply.
Won't happen. Just some more wasted time and money.
There's not a lot of difference in these batteries he is talking about.
Props to the folk doing this kind of research.
Sounds bloody good
I am a Chemist. Thank you for your battery chemistry content. Very interesting.
Did he say butanol? 1% by volume? Thanks
Nonrechargable zinc air batteries have been around for about 40 years, they hav offered the benifits of lighter weight and longer life, however there were current limits. In Hospitals they were great for telemetry transmitters as they diddent have to be changed as offten.
Thanks
Like your video's keep up the good work
Glad you like them!
I love seeing your joy in face as you telling us good news. It's not close but sounds good.
The Lithium mining isn't the major issue, it's the highly toxic cobalt that is. This is one of the reasons that makes LiFePo cells more attractive.
The more abundant an element and the less damaging to the environment (including us) its extraction and exploitation, the better, even if its properties aren't the best. I'm all for sodium vs. lithium, because of its abundance and innocuity. Zinc is less abundant but more than lithium, if I'm not wrong. Auxiliary elements and compounds necessary for the primary one also are equally important.
Just a note. The German post office powered big Mercedes vans with zinc air batteries in a pilot project around 1995. It was a bit tedious. The zinc oxide from the spent batteries was regenerated and reloaded into cartridges and returned to the van on night shift. It worked but round trip efficiency seems to be about 60% and labor was likely high. Thanks Sam!
SUGGESTION:
Sam, the music you put at the end of some of your videos has a huge increase in volume, which is quite jarring. Please match VU meter settings so that does not happen.
Agree, I like to listen to several episodes at a time as a "mix", and the crappy irritating loud music at the end is terrible. Is this a ploy to make the video longer to get around a YT algo?
The Samuel!
@@lefturn99 It wasnt crappy nor terrible, what, you want a show about battery tech that is more like a mix of battery tech and the old 80's tv show that lasted 6 months but was funny as hell like a mix of hill street blues and fame called CopRock?
Ok, maybe that would be entertaining, but whatever man, have it your way.
@@lefturn99 You know who would listen to several episodes at a time as a mix as you suggested?
Data from star trek was into that. The downloading of multiple streams of consciousness at the same time.
You have a remarkable talent.
You actually watch the videos. How bizarre.
There are so many claims on great potentials of various EV battery technologies to-date. However, I will believe only when it is placed in working EV!
They're probably heavier than lithium, so probably won't be in EVs. But there are many applications where weight isn't such a big deal.
They have. The new much better CATL LFP batteries are already in EVs, just not in North America yet.
Good on you mates 👍🇦🇺
Good info as always, Sam! By the way, your microphone is coming through very soft. Any way you can boost the sound of your voice, to the level of the music at the end? Thanks again.
Oh goody, yet another battery that's going to solve all the problems. I will believe it when its commercially available.
Interesting how different life is. For me charging time, capacity, size and weight have been the interesting points with batteries. But seems that for others it’s if you can get your bike on a plane or not.
EOS energy Zinc batteries is the way to go... So cheap and reliable, no moving parts and longest life for any alternatives... So cheap; it is now possible to backup the whole grid, it is not a dream anymore... they've got a loan over 500 mil usd from US DOE in September, now building 2 serial production lines, 3 and 4 are on the way... I believe EOSE is the best large scale battery manufacturer to invest in... I did along with AMPX (which is the best high energy density battery alternative)
The more solutions, the better. It means a better fit in more situations, and greater competition. It also means there should be more protection against commodity price manipulation.
Definitely likely.
*Zinc with a Manganese Cathode can reach 400KWH/K since Manganese can hold TWO Zinc Ions. This beats Lithium Ion by 35%!*
Way to go Australia!❤
Let’s hope so.
I like how quickly battery technology is improving.
But they always end with the slogan "commercialization is many years away...."
@@jamesvandamme7786 -- Yes: agreed, and some will never happen; but without the research, there can't be the final product.
If this is true, its an incredible breakthrough
Congratulations Australia Great
"This changes everything" battery of the week, never to be heard from again.
What happens to the companies with the huge lithium reserves / futures?
Aussie is big, 'they' been working for this long time, great.
I am quite sure new battery technologies will keep coming up. This will definitely spell the end of Combustion engines in the near future.
Variety is good,
Having 3 wives would be great. 😊😊
@@robertfonovic3551 hmm sounds good at first, I definitely could not handle it.
Core bloimey mate, well done Auz. Electric bikes, scooters, that's where it's also at for wiping out fossil fuel demand.
My grandfather used to always say that, but i never knew who he was talking about about, col blimey mustve been someone or core bloimey really something though, the english are always mentioning about.
What does that even mean? He always said it during times of frustration or bewilderment.
Things that contributed to my dyslexia, being directly related to english people.
Constant RnD in battery's had produced many amazing new battery Tech. One day, industries will standardise to one of these developments.
Or several to suit shop, home, plane, phone.
Fantastic todays breakthrough, see you tomorrow for the next breakthrough. 👍😂
Interesting subject, I'll be hoping to see zinc batteries back in the market, rechargeable and cheaper. The video's audio level is too low, though. I had to push up the volume to the top and, then, boom, the closing music exploded! Really bad editing. You should fix the audio level and replace the video. EDIT: after a little research, I found out that rechargeable zinc batteries have been in development for about a decade and nothing came out yet. I seriously doubt it'll even be available.
What we really need to be looking into is making batteries By electroplating annodes and Catherine. A true solid state, no Electrolyte
❤❤❤❤
Does “changes the game” mean “game changer”? Normality has returned 😂
Hello mate
I DuPont bought the rights from French man that made a battery that holds charge for lifetime! We heard about this in college when we were studying copyright laws,patents and other things. Does anyone remember?
Patents usually expire after 20 years, and become open source soo now is perhaps an opportunity for you to build that patent.
Aqueos? Um, how does it work in the cold? I need one for my snowblower. Don't care about weight.
Will this be another breakthrough that never leaves the lab?
I used to make zinc batteries. The problem is self discharging. I lose about 15% a day.
Australia makes a lot of discovery this and a lot of discovery that! But never follow through with any of them.
Because everything has to be tested and checked many, many times.
Look at Samsung, it's battery fires was years ago but everyone remembers that like yesterday.
Not true. Do some homework.
@@robertfonovic3551 I can't find any
@@robertfonovic3551 Found one! A camping stove
Was this all of Australia? Or was it only certain Australians? I mean, if everybody in the country is involved, that's awesome. It just seems unlikely.
Thought it was New Zealand
Which battery technology is worth waiting for? Home or car.
Lithium Iron Phosphate
And China sez, " Right! I'll have that".
EV batteries should be LIFETIME WARENTY , period no matter what the chemistry.
Lithium is not ideal for mass grid storage, due to massive fire risks.
Humans need to find a solution for storage.. For electricity and heating.
I worry that allowing batteries on passenger planes is a nightmare waiting to happen. This opens up the possibility for dangerous people to create havoc with a label change and the right circuit to trigger an event in the luggage area to cause a plane to fall out of the sky
fire?
🎉Still waiting for the "breakthrough" graphene solid state batteries announced 10+ years ago. Yawn
2024 could be the year of Mass Grid Storage breakthroughs??The market is so huge!!! You cannot take Electric Scooters on UK trains!
Whats the point? You have Na batteries that can do this a whole lot better? Cheaper and can copy anything Li can do for the most part? Seems silly to me other than just to improve them I guess, but for anything else - Na will be the future for that. Let alone NA already supports solid state making them smaller and lighter - along with being safer. Follow up by new materals like S and Si that can double their power dens from 140 to well over 300 and more.
Why not say ay-zed-bee? 😮
Again?
so many breakthroughs, none of them are market feasible. Zinc weighs a lot more than lithium.
About a hundred years ago we had a working battery that had a lifespan in DECADES! some remained in industrial operation for 60 to 80 years. Why are they not being used? Oh, yeah, they did not use acid or Lithium. Why are you trying to re-invent the wheel????
in next 40 years we might see these batteries in a car. Wake me up when my iphone will last for a week, because only reason now to buy a new iphone is cos of battery degradation. There are so many breakthroughs these days and we still have same batteries EVERYWHERE. These concepts are only that. You can't see it anywhere else but in a youtube video
The second we actually get markedly better battery tech the next phone using it will either use a smaller battery, be higher power, or both, so you'll still only get a day out of it..
Lithium has a limited shelf life. 95% of the future EV auto market is yet to be captured.
Youre australian mate its Zed not Zee.
Yeah Sam: no. LFPs are the present. Sodium-Ion are the future.
And: there literally is also no alternative compared to electric motors. People still aren't aware about their efficiency, durability, how precisely and creatively they can be controlled - and how easy they get manufactured compared to ICEs.
To all the haters...
Imagine being a scientist in battery tech.
Including CATL employers with leading labs and tech.
This guy does break things down to diversify their thinking or even get a good laugh.
Can we just stop with all the battery speculation crap.
How about we wait until they can actually manufacture at scale and cost and actually have a product on the market.... otherwise it's just EV hype BS.
Remember how graphene was the "next big thing"...where the hell is that now?
The whole industry seems to be built on hype and BS, just like 'cheap plentiful green energy' and 'high paying green jobs'.
So any smart person will wait to buy an EV until they start using these batteris.
Any smart person will wait a decade until the tech is better not sold on lithium and current battery technology to make me move from my diesel turbo vehicle
AUSTRALIA PROMISES A LOT BUT ALWAYS FAILS TO DELIVER. TAKE THE HYPERSONIC PROGRAM. HAVENT SEEN ANY HYPERSONIC MISSILE YET FROM AUSTRALIA.
Ni-Zn batteries have been available for over 120 years. They use the same NiO-OH plates and the same KOH electrolyte as the other Nickel-something batteries, of which there are many. They are all OLD. Sam is once again digging in the history books to find material for more videos. The biggest problem with zinc cells is that with other than optimal recharge current, one either gets dendrites(spikey things) that short out the cell or mossy deposits, which don't conduct well. Ni-Zn has been the next great thing for 120 years now.
Hang on…. Just wait another hour and Sam will post another video showing another battery breakthrough, a game changer, revolutionary, etc, etc, etc.
I why do you waste content on research that has a 1% probability chance of making it to market
no where as cheap as sodium...
Interesting but not great
They should just show this video to everyone for 10yrs while w r never see the thing in function. It's the same as all the other bs
So? The EV has no future unless it's self charging. And Tesla refuses to make a safe charging EV.
Why don't you EV fanatics just admit we are nowhere near having the battery component of EV's figured out yet, ecery week Sam is telling us here is the next solution in battery tech.
It's getting old and boring now and obviously they still haven't found it yet.
Same as "This new engine will be better than the last", there will always be a better something.
The research will help your phone last longer between charges, is that a bad thing ?
@@owainbennett663 it's an irrelevant thing as my phone battery lasts all day with continual use now.
@owainbennett663 well in 25 years mobile phone tech hasn't improved. Phones 25 years ago lasted 1 to 2 days at best. Today with all the amazing tech we have phones still only last 1 or 2 days on a charge. I'll believe it when I see it
@Car-crazy Wrong mindset.
Computer technology has outstripped the speed of the battery technology.
Your phone has over 1000x the power what was used in the Apollo mission.
@@owainbennett663 yes I know that. But still doesn't change anything. The fact of the matter is battery tech has not improved by any marginal amounts. Rather the tech has improved making battery power management better. But at the end of day battery tech has reached its limits with the current battery tech. Unless a completely new material is discovered or invented there will be no improvement on what we currently have. Physics will tell you this....there is only so much energy available from a cell, you can not get more out of it than physically possible. This is what so many people fail to grasps or understand. Like I said in 25 years battery tech really hasn't improved, just the electronics that manage the power has. Now that has also platooned. The only way to improve battery tech by any large amount is the invention or discovery if a new material. Everything that can be tried, has been tried. And even if eventually they make a battery that lasts longer the infrastructure in most countries can not handle all the extra power required. This is also a physical fact that so many people fail to grasp.