The more I think about it, Treasure Planet would've been a great fit for 3DDD. Sora could've explored the actual planet itself, and Riku could've gone to the Moon Base.
As an old man, and old fan; People have literally been SCREAMING for a Treasure Planet world since KH2. Disney and Square seem to continue to drift further away from their fanbase, and just do whatever sells. I understand why, but it also makes sense why after beating KH3.. I had 0 desire to replay it. Even 0.2 is more interesting, and has better worlds in that small demo.
I remembered reading about how Woody and Buzz were originally planned to be summons in Kingdom Hearts 2, but got scrapped. The only thing that was left of their existed were the unfinished models that were worked on before the complete scraping.
Treasure Planet and Atlantis Lost Empire are my top picks to include in a future KH title, I honestly wouldnt mind if it was from say Missing Link instead of a Sora-centric title
One of the tings I’ve learned about these games is that you have to figure in how each world fits into the games’ stories. The main characters always learn something from each world they visit. I don’t see how “The Jungle Book’ would’ve in Birth By Sleep. Though I think they should’ve at least added “The Sword In The Stone” to Dream Drop Distance. Yen Sid said they were to visit 7 worlds, but they only did 6 and then got sent to the World That Never Was which shouldn’t have counted.
I think The Jungle Book could've worked in Birth by Sleep because of its themes of "knowing where you belong" and "knowing when to let someone go." And The Sword in the Stone could've worked in Birth by Sleep since it is a prequel game and just like how it shows what Stitch was up to prior to the events of KH2 it could've been a good way to show Merlin in his own world and since that movie is about him teaching King Arthur how to become someone important it could've been used to tie in with the trio's goal of becoming Keyblade Masters and the hardships of life.
I prefer the Disney & Pixar stuff better. But not so much on 20th Century Fox stuff, Marvel stuff and Lucasfilm stuff like Star Wars. Even though Disney bought them, I still don't consider Lucasfilm, Marvel and 20th Century Fox as actual Disney things. But for Pixar, it's definitely a real Disney thing. Because even before the Walt Disney Company bought it, Pixar has always been working with Disney to make movies, shorts and shows but had never worked with any other companies and never worked on it's own without Disney's help.
I’ve been saying treasure planet and Atlantis lost empire should’ve been included since day one of kh1. I mean the whole “WORLD” travel gummi ship system makes those titles a must.
Another world that was cut from KH1 but appeared later was toy box. There was concept art for a toy barn world based on toy story 2 but the acquisition of Pixar had yet to finalize.
Whilst the Death Star and having to fight Darth Vader would be awesome... I think the Clone Wars era would work so much better thematically. Anakin descending to the dark side... it just makes sense for KH. It also can be a wake up call that Sora can't save everyone??
I would love to see him build a relationship with clone wars Anakin and then return in a future game fighting alongside look and disheartened at Anakin's turn
A star wars prequel story could only really work with the characters literally inspired by the prequels Terra and Anakin, Aqua and Obi-Wan, and Ventus and Ahsoka are all natural parallels and would have incredible chemistry
I have a theory that a lot of the more "realistic" Disney ips will show up in 4. Due to Quadratum being shown as close to "our world" these so called forbidden worlds were also banished to unreality. I expect to see Treasure Planet, Atlantis, and many more
Looking over things, I think the Jungle Book world was scrapped because how similar it looked to Neverland. Having two worlds that have the same look, or feel would be redundant. In the end, I'm sure Nomura wanted Neverland for the backstory with that world, and piecing everything together.
I still think treasure planet and Atlantis should’ve been in KH3. TP could’ve been a location that could’ve tied into them looking for the master of masters box, and with Atlanteans living for thousands of years could’ve played into the organization 13 plot
Even though it's not a deleted world, the piece of deleted content I would love to see was the scrapped King/Kentauros boss fight that was supposed to be at the end of KH2. Not only did the photos of it look so cool (and maybe a bit beyond the capabilities of what the PS2 could have easily pulled off), but I swear to god that months before KH2 released I had a dream about a boss fight for the game that looked EXACTLY like those images. I think I might have briefly peered into an alternate reality where that concept was actually released.
That was the idea since you can see that Pinocchio was gonna be featured in his real boy form, that Xion would've see that a wooden puppet was able to become a real boy.
Since 358/2 days story actually starts before ending of KH1 (Roxas was born right after Sora released his&Kairi's heart), maybe it was meant to be some early game world, where we could see how Pinocchio became human (aka retelling of the cartoon). However it may not add up, since Xion wouldn't be a thing until CoM, but the earlier story draft may differ as well from final product.
They really should've remade 358/2 days for current gen that game was so awesome. Choosing who you want to play as, Co-op dashing around the map as the organization 13 and having the game voice acted would've been crazy on Playstation and Xbox just replace the backpack system with the AP system from the main games and it would be one of the best in the series
There are reasons why some Disney worlds are removed. Either it wouldn't fit the plot or they'll save it for the next game. Take the Jungle Book for example. How can you make it work? How can it work in the story? What's the relationship with the characters?
Or indeed sustain it over three different storylines as the Birth by Sleep worlds had. Terra’s storylines had a recurring theme of temptation, misleading and self-reflection, I can’t think of a Jungle Book character who might tempt or mislead Terra. Maybe if material from Jungle Book 2 was planned, like a boss fight against Shere Khan at the temple and Aqua learning that you don’t need to have only one life while rejecting the other. But that also raises the question of how many NPCs they could do, since being on the PSP Birth by Sleep had a noticeably small number of them (Terra’s story in Castle of Dreams and the Coliseum both draw attention to invisible crowds), all being important to the story and/or present in the source material.
You know how the Jungle Book is mostly about Baloo growing attached to Mowgli, Mowgli being stubborn about going back home and Baloo having to let Mowgli go in the end? I imagine they could've done something like that with Aqua and Terra's attachment to Ven and Ven not wanting to go back to the Land of Departure for his own good.
some other worlds planned jungle book in kh1 and ddd kh1 jungle book was ultimately scrapped in favor of tarzan and ddd its unknown. Also alantis the lost empire was considered for kh1 in the concept as a tie in world but story conflicts and time constraints was the ultimate reason why it was scrapped Lastly Toy box and monstropolis was planned to be in kh2 as there exist debug room code for both worlds and that ddd was going to have a old and new mechanic with each world planning that originally fantasia 2000 and space paranoids were going to be worlds initally.
Honestly a jungle book world sounds great id really hope they'd go deep jungle with and make super platformery. And you'd have to keep coming back for secrets every time you unlock new movement options.
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The Star Wars World theories just don’t make sense and I’m glad people are being more realistic that it might not be in Kingdom Hearts 4. It would be cool but how does it fit into the narrative with the Master Of Masters and Quadratum? Lightsaber Keyblade and force powers like how would that work?
Is it too soon to say Port Royal/The Caribbean is cut from the series considering the Johnny Depp vs Amber Herd stuff. I mean, it wasnt represented or mentioned in Melody of Memories
I mean... 100 Acre Wood was also not mentioned at all in MoM. I think it's just because they had to get permission to use "He's A Pirate" from Hans Zimmer but couldn't.
Ugh god if there's a Star Wars world in KH the series will be dead to me. Any other live action properties ending up in the game will sour my enjoyment. The whole reason it became popular in the first place is because of the mix of cartoony Disney characters appearing with Final Fantasy characters.
I'm still not a fan of the idea that star wars will be included, but many details point to it. Maybe KH4 can change my mind, but I really hope that it will just be a world that's just an inclusion for the fans of the other franchise (like Halloween Town). Seeing the FF gang only via DLC in KH3 was a stab to the heart for me, but the thought of them being replaced by a group of Jedi would be too much for me.
@@ProdigyxCD The FF characters from Radiant Garden (or Traverse town in KH1) were supporting side characters that had a role in the main plot. KH3 changed that and included them only via dlc and their hubworld wasn't playable anymore. They were replaced "storywise" by the characters from TWEWY in KHDDD for example (which had a valid story) I meant that the big variety of Jedi could replace the FF characters as these "supportive side characters" in the future of the series. The unfinished plots with them suggest that they will be cut from the series completely, imho 😕
The FF characters usually made their appearances in the hub world like you mentioned. For DDD, the hub world in a sense was traverse town, so it makes sense that the TWEWY characters replaced the FF characters for that part. If the hub world determines the characters that are replacing FF characters to you, Star Wars will not replace. Star Wars would be its own world and not in quadratum, which will most likely be the hub world.
The Kingdom Hearts version of Palpatine's speech to Anakin would not take very much to adapt. Make the Jedi aware of Darkness and Light, who happen to channel them in a different way, then swap out whenever Palpatine mentions 'death' with 'destiny' and 'the force' with 'darkness'. Darkness is outside of time and heartless can travel through time to influence the past, creating a kind of haunting and a bootstrap paradox where it isn't clear if someone was already on the road to darkness or if their future self ensured they would be. That would be a very neat way to explore the story of Anakin Skywalker 'haunted' by Darth Vader from the future, thereby ensuring Palpatine's victory.
Hm, how very interesting, i wonder if any of these will ever get another chance? I hope so, i wonder how they would turn out? I wonder what we can expect next?
One missed oppurtunity was limiting all the FF characters to not just smaller roles throughout the series, but just radiant garden for the most part. Claoud and Squall were at their best in KH2.
I find it rather odd the disney robin hood was never considered for a kh world. A world full of greed which lends itself well to heartless and opens the possibilities for a medieval styled heartless. While maybe werewolf styled heartless could be both scary and interesting. While battling in a big forest and a castle.
I know everyone is saying "Oh Treasure Planet should've been in KH a long time ago!" but honestly I feel The Jungle Book is the world that really should've been in KH a long ago and it's still weird how it hasn't yet considering how basically every other classic Walt Disney Era animated movie has been featured in KH in some way or another and The Jungle Book is just that iconic. Like, it feels weird how we have high-quality 3D renders of so many classic Disney characters... but then you see people having to use the renders from Jungle Book: Groove Party, you know what I mean? And I feel either Birth by Sleep or Dream Drop Distance (mostly BbS because of its "past" theme) would've been perfect for it because I feel that old "simple" style of KH worlds would've fit a movie like that more than KH3's style which is a lot more grandiose, same thing with a Sword in the Stone World, really. And really ever since finding out about The Jungle Book almost being in KH but was scrapped for supposedly already having a jungle world in Neverland and probably because of legal issues with Louis Prima's state, I just can't help but wonder a LOT of things regarding what could've been: - What was going to be the name of the world? - How would the world icon have looked like? - Was it going to be just the plot of the movie? - A semi-new story, perhaps? - What were going to be the areas for us to explore? - How would the story have turned out with Birth by Sleep’s story structure? - What was going to be the “message/lesson” for Aqua, Ven and Terra to learn? - Were they going to still be their normal human selves or were they going to actually turn into animals (I assume wolves, given the setting)? - Who was going to be featured in the world? Obviously Mowgli, Baloo and Bagheera were going to be there, but, would that have been it? - Was King Louie going to be in the game or we just would've had to explore his empty throne room (this IS a pre-KH3 game, after all)? - Was Kaa going to be in the game? Maybe even as a boss? - Who was going to fight Shere Khan? - Was Shere Khan going to use Terra for something, kinda like some of the other Disney villains in the game? - Ok, this one is a bit more personal, since it is a Final Fantasy character, but am I the only one who thinks that it’d be neat to meet Red XIII in this world? ...'cuz, y'know, he’s a red dog? In a world based on The Jungle Book? …get it? …erm, moving on... - Who were going to be the voice actors for the characters? I assume Jim Cummings as Kaa, Bob Joles as Bagheera and Corey Burton as Shere Khan, but, what about Baloo and Mowgli? - You think they would’ve actually asked Haley Joel Osment to reprise his role as Mowgli, even though his voice wouldn’t have fit at all anymore? ...plus, y'know, him also voicing Vanitas in the game? Boy, that would've been kinda jarring, don't you think? - How would the Unversed enemies and bosses have looked like? Monkeys? Vultures? Elephants? Snakes? - What was the music going to sound like? Jungle beats with a bit of jazz? - Was “The Bare Necessities” going to be the field theme, much like “Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo” was for Cinderella’s world? - You think we could’ve gotten a dancing mini-game (you know, like The Jungle Book: Groove Party?) but it was scrapped in favor of the one in Disney Town? - How would the Keyblade for this world have looked like and what was it going to be called? - Who was going to be the D-Link from this world? - How was the D-Link going to function? - Was Shanti going to have a cameo at the end?
What sucks is that Disney would never approve the SW main trilogy or prequels no matter how better they would make the game. You can already tell that they’re going to force their way with the prequels..(no pun intended)
Ive loved Treasure planet ever since i first saw it as a kid, and i truly believe it does not deserve majority of the hate it got. I would love to see it make a comeback in some way, and possibly have a game mode with us riding on a Solar Board. (I would secretly love a Treasure planet 2 movie as well, but ill take the world for now :D)
There's actually more Worlds than that even! In this video however I decided to focus on just a few that had thr most information about them. I would love to make another covering even more Worlds that were considered if you're interested?
No, they wouldn't. The whole point of the series is to visit Disney worlds whereas the FF characters are just cameos, it was never a MAJOR thing in the games. And FF worlds wouldn't work because the FF characters in KH are completely different. And why the hell would we need FF worlds when, for starters, there's still so many Disney movies that they haven't used, and also... you realize it would be just smaller, watered down versions of already-existing games, right? Why would you visit a theme park version of Midgar or Spira when you can already play the real thing? Honestly, every time I see people saying "WE NEED FF WORLDS AND NOT DISNEY WORLDS" it just feels like they want Disney to be removed of the equation so badly and pointlessly set themselves up for disappointment.
I don't want Star Wars to be in KH. I said it, I don't want to. Why? Because if that's the case, Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine would just be reduced to arc world antagonists and that's it. And sorry not sorry, I don't want to see two of the most iconic, legendary and best villains in the history of fiction being treated like mere obstacles and beaten by Sora. Because yes, I'm a KH fan but I don't find Sora that great of a character, he's just good and fun but that's it. So I don't want him to defeat two of the best villains in existence. Personal opinion there but I don't care if I miss a good world. What I want though are a world based on Atlantis The Lost Empire and Treasure Planet. Both of these would be beyond perfect.
The problem with trying to get a Star Wars world in Kingdom Hearts is a simple one. Both Disney and Square Enix tried to get away with Deep Jungle in kingdom hearts 1 and got sued for it because disney does not own the tarzan movie. People also forget that disney does not own star wars officially. Both the star wars cast for episodes 7,8 and 9 and George Lucas have stated publicly that disney only has creative control over the star wars movies. The movie plots are still owned by George Lucas. That is why I can never officially see a star wars world in a kingdom hearts game unless George Lucas is willing to sell all star wars copyrights to disney.
@DarkOverlord96 I have never seen endor, so I can't answer it. The only Star Wars shows that I've seen are the following: 1. Star Wars the clone wars 2. Star Wars rebels 3. Star Wars the bad batch I've never been a complete Star Wars fan. But I am a big kingdom hearts fan and disney fan.
If we get a Star Wars World, please be either Prequels Clone Wars or Original Trilogy, but no fucking sequels for the love of god. The sequels don't have anything to offer besides narrative deficiencies.
The Prequels have shitty writing and stories not worth adapting to Kingdom Hearts. Unless you really wanna see Jar Jar Binks acting like a space minstrel caricature while smelling some farts, which is apparently TOP TIER writing according to you people. Stop with your forced and hypocritical revisionism.
Once Upon a Time would have been a good property to cross over with Kingdom Hearts, as both have original characters interacting with Disney characters (OUaT was less bound to the Disney source material than KH, although things like Frozen were better represented there IMO) as well as themes of light and darkness, and manipulation of hearts. Vexen would give up all research on replicas to investigate the Dark One dagger.
OUAT was based on the actual tales, not the Disney renditions, for one. And to see a cross over with that mediocre show would’ve diminished the value of Kingdom Hearts entirely, and possibly ruined the thematic elements that make KH what it is.
Its literally a conflict between the light and the Dark side of the Force with Space Travel and Themes of Hero Journey and Destiny and Fate with Magical Abilities and Knights with magical Swords powered by Crystals that can appear and dissapear in battle How much copeium can one take
kh is already used up too many disney worlds that eventually they have to do other worlds thats not disney so eventually alot has to not fit soon anyway
That sucks! I loved The Jungle Book growing up! And of course Kathleen Kennedy wasn't going to allow Square Enix to make a Star Wars world! Least of all the Clone Wars! That would involve showing fans how awesome the original characters from BEFORE her reign were! Of course that can't happen on her watch. And I agree that Treasure Planet would be awesome!
@@jimmergames LOL! I'll believe that when I see it! Disney has lost so much of my trust in recent years. And Filoni lost his fair share too. With my luck he'll require they do just what Kennedy would have done...I'll spare you the South Park quote...
Do you really think your misogyny towards Kathleen Kennedy has anything to do with all this? Also, it's pretty clear Return of the Jedi is gonna be in KH4, ergo s movie before "her reign" (God you sound to damn stupid when you say it). I honestly hope they end up cutting it because Star Wars fanboys like you don't deserve anything after all the death threats you sent to the directors and actors. Oh and of course your only point of reference is a the South Park parody which ALSO made fun of idiots like you who hate women doing something important.
The more I think about it, Treasure Planet would've been a great fit for 3DDD.
Sora could've explored the actual planet itself, and Riku could've gone to the Moon Base.
As an old man, and old fan; People have literally been SCREAMING for a Treasure Planet world since KH2.
Disney and Square seem to continue to drift further away from their fanbase, and just do whatever sells. I understand why, but it also makes sense why after beating KH3.. I had 0 desire to replay it. Even 0.2 is more interesting, and has better worlds in that small demo.
Disney sabotaged the damn movie. Why do you think they want anything to do with it?
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Because it's become a cult classic with tons of adult and child fans since its been released. Disney can pound sand.
@@ZeranZeranyeah but it flopped in the box office disney just wants to forget it’s failures
Treasure Planet should have been a world a LONG time ago. Such an underrated movie 🎥🍿
Yeah. Hope it'll be in KH4. 🤞
I don’t know a single person who DOESN’T want Treasure Planet in KH
@@mitchellkresge9446 here’s one
I swear y’all dick ride that movie so much it’s not that good
Disney doesn't want to know a crap about that movie's existence, a good reason it hasn't appeared yet.
I remembered reading about how Woody and Buzz were originally planned to be summons in Kingdom Hearts 2, but got scrapped.
The only thing that was left of their existed were the unfinished models that were worked on before the complete scraping.
Treasure Planet and Atlantis Lost Empire are my top picks to include in a future KH title, I honestly wouldnt mind if it was from say Missing Link instead of a Sora-centric title
One of the tings I’ve learned about these games is that you have to figure in how each world fits into the games’ stories. The main characters always learn something from each world they visit. I don’t see how “The Jungle Book’ would’ve in Birth By Sleep. Though I think they should’ve at least added “The Sword In The Stone” to Dream Drop Distance. Yen Sid said they were to visit 7 worlds, but they only did 6 and then got sent to the World That Never Was which shouldn’t have counted.
I think The Jungle Book could've worked in Birth by Sleep because of its themes of "knowing where you belong" and "knowing when to let someone go."
And The Sword in the Stone could've worked in Birth by Sleep since it is a prequel game and just like how it shows what Stitch was up to prior to the events of KH2 it could've been a good way to show Merlin in his own world and since that movie is about him teaching King Arthur how to become someone important it could've been used to tie in with the trio's goal of becoming Keyblade Masters and the hardships of life.
I prefer the Disney & Pixar stuff better. But not so much on 20th Century Fox stuff, Marvel stuff and Lucasfilm stuff like Star Wars. Even though Disney bought them, I still don't consider Lucasfilm, Marvel and 20th Century Fox as actual Disney things. But for Pixar, it's definitely a real Disney thing. Because even before the Walt Disney Company bought it, Pixar has always been working with Disney to make movies, shorts and shows but had never worked with any other companies and never worked on it's own without Disney's help.
I’ve been saying treasure planet and Atlantis lost empire should’ve been included since day one of kh1. I mean the whole “WORLD” travel gummi ship system makes those titles a must.
Another world that was cut from KH1 but appeared later was toy box. There was concept art for a toy barn world based on toy story 2 but the acquisition of Pixar had yet to finalize.
Whilst the Death Star and having to fight Darth Vader would be awesome... I think the Clone Wars era would work so much better thematically. Anakin descending to the dark side... it just makes sense for KH. It also can be a wake up call that Sora can't save everyone??
I would love to see him build a relationship with clone wars Anakin and then return in a future game fighting alongside look and disheartened at Anakin's turn
A star wars prequel story could only really work with the characters literally inspired by the prequels
Terra and Anakin, Aqua and Obi-Wan, and Ventus and Ahsoka are all natural parallels and would have incredible chemistry
I have a theory that a lot of the more "realistic" Disney ips will show up in 4. Due to Quadratum being shown as close to "our world" these so called forbidden worlds were also banished to unreality. I expect to see Treasure Planet, Atlantis, and many more
That would be a good explanation to why they didn't include Treasure Planet earlier.
And I'd love to explore the wildlands of Brother Bear 😁
Looking over things, I think the Jungle Book world was scrapped because how similar it looked to Neverland. Having two worlds that have the same look, or feel would be redundant. In the end, I'm sure Nomura wanted Neverland for the backstory with that world, and piecing everything together.
I still think treasure planet and Atlantis should’ve been in KH3. TP could’ve been a location that could’ve tied into them looking for the master of masters box, and with Atlanteans living for thousands of years could’ve played into the organization 13 plot
Why does no one ever say anything about treasure planet. Or Atlantis lost empire. Those would be absolutely unequivocally perfect. Just perfect.
Atlantis would’ve made another epic world, alongside Treasure Planet. We need them in KH4!
Agreed. I have been wanting Atlantis to make an appearance for some time now.
Even though it's not a deleted world, the piece of deleted content I would love to see was the scrapped King/Kentauros boss fight that was supposed to be at the end of KH2. Not only did the photos of it look so cool (and maybe a bit beyond the capabilities of what the PS2 could have easily pulled off), but I swear to god that months before KH2 released I had a dream about a boss fight for the game that looked EXACTLY like those images. I think I might have briefly peered into an alternate reality where that concept was actually released.
I’m not sure how Pinocchio would’ve fitted in 358/2 days because he turned into a real boy at the end of the original kingdom hearts game.
That was the idea since you can see that Pinocchio was gonna be featured in his real boy form, that Xion would've see that a wooden puppet was able to become a real boy.
@@DarkOverlord96 very true. It was just hard for me to think of how else they could do it is all.
Since 358/2 days story actually starts before ending of KH1 (Roxas was born right after Sora released his&Kairi's heart), maybe it was meant to be some early game world, where we could see how Pinocchio became human (aka retelling of the cartoon). However it may not add up, since Xion wouldn't be a thing until CoM, but the earlier story draft may differ as well from final product.
@@JRPGLOVER yeah probably.
They really should've remade 358/2 days for current gen that game was so awesome. Choosing who you want to play as, Co-op dashing around the map as the organization 13 and having the game voice acted would've been crazy on Playstation and Xbox just replace the backpack system with the AP system from the main games and it would be one of the best in the series
Treasure planet would be amazing for Roxas or Ventus, learning to grow up with Jim and Captain Silver
glad to see you back! love your videos
TP 😭 also i knew about most of these, but still loved hearing them again and seeing the leaks with it
Should be back to a normal video schedule this time!
Really looking forward to how they handle Return of The Jedi.
That makes sense for each some worlds be removed to during the kingdom hearts series. Very good and interesting video.
There are reasons why some Disney worlds are removed. Either it wouldn't fit the plot or they'll save it for the next game.
Take the Jungle Book for example. How can you make it work? How can it work in the story? What's the relationship with the characters?
Or indeed sustain it over three different storylines as the Birth by Sleep worlds had. Terra’s storylines had a recurring theme of temptation, misleading and self-reflection, I can’t think of a Jungle Book character who might tempt or mislead Terra. Maybe if material from Jungle Book 2 was planned, like a boss fight against Shere Khan at the temple and Aqua learning that you don’t need to have only one life while rejecting the other. But that also raises the question of how many NPCs they could do, since being on the PSP Birth by Sleep had a noticeably small number of them (Terra’s story in Castle of Dreams and the Coliseum both draw attention to invisible crowds), all being important to the story and/or present in the source material.
A lot of ideas in the Jungle Book are pretty similar to what we got in the final game with Neverland, honestly.
@@absoutezeo2126 There was even a Gorilla Unversed that would've fit in the Jungle Book world.
You know how the Jungle Book is mostly about Baloo growing attached to Mowgli, Mowgli being stubborn about going back home and Baloo having to let Mowgli go in the end?
I imagine they could've done something like that with Aqua and Terra's attachment to Ven and Ven not wanting to go back to the Land of Departure for his own good.
Jungle Book Gargoyles and Treasure Planet were planned but never came to fruition
Can you imagine a Shere Kahn boss battle? Be like Scar's battle, but more intense
Do u think post KH3, and Remind, SE will do DLC instead of Final Mixs
some other worlds planned
jungle book in kh1 and ddd kh1 jungle book was ultimately scrapped in favor of tarzan and ddd its unknown.
Also alantis the lost empire was considered for kh1 in the concept as a tie in world but story conflicts and time constraints was the ultimate reason why it was scrapped
Lastly Toy box and monstropolis was planned to be in kh2 as there exist debug room code for both worlds and that ddd was going to have a old and new mechanic with each world planning that originally fantasia 2000 and space paranoids were going to be worlds initally.
its alleged that quadtratum was meant to be an explorable world in kh3 remind based on some statements from the ultimania
Honestly a jungle book world sounds great id really hope they'd go deep jungle with and make super platformery. And you'd have to keep coming back for secrets every time you unlock new movement options.
Another great video. In sad your stuff hasn't been popping up on my feed tho
Thanks alot!
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No placing false hopes from me, but here's expecting a few of these ideas having a chance to appear in KH4? I could be deadly wrong though...
The Star Wars World theories just don’t make sense and I’m glad people are being more realistic that it might not be in Kingdom Hearts 4. It would be cool but how does it fit into the narrative with the Master Of Masters and Quadratum? Lightsaber Keyblade and force powers like how would that work?
Treasure planet should get it's shot I've seen it as a teen and the movie was pretty good
We need Treasure Planet in KH4!!!!
Is it too soon to say Port Royal/The Caribbean is cut from the series considering the Johnny Depp vs Amber Herd stuff. I mean, it wasnt represented or mentioned in Melody of Memories
I guess so. Another point hinting to that is that the movies after Pirates 3 were less popular than the first three.
I mean... 100 Acre Wood was also not mentioned at all in MoM.
I think it's just because they had to get permission to use "He's A Pirate" from Hans Zimmer but couldn't.
Tarzan can be in kh again IF Disney can get the rights to it from Edgar Rice Burrough's estate.
I LOVE treasure planet. Woulda be sooo good.
Really want princess and the frog, and the black cauldron worlds for the villains to use heartless
Ugh god if there's a Star Wars world in KH the series will be dead to me. Any other live action properties ending up in the game will sour my enjoyment. The whole reason it became popular in the first place is because of the mix of cartoony Disney characters appearing with Final Fantasy characters.
I'm still not a fan of the idea that star wars will be included, but many details point to it.
Maybe KH4 can change my mind, but I really hope that it will just be a world that's just an inclusion for the fans of the other franchise (like Halloween Town).
Seeing the FF gang only via DLC in KH3 was a stab to the heart for me, but the thought of them being replaced by a group of Jedi would be too much for me.
I hope KH4 can sell the World for you! Though I must ask, how does Jedi replace Final Fantasy Characters?
@@ProdigyxCD The FF characters from Radiant Garden (or Traverse town in KH1) were supporting side characters that had a role in the main plot. KH3 changed that and included them only via dlc and their hubworld wasn't playable anymore.
They were replaced "storywise" by the characters from TWEWY in KHDDD for example (which had a valid story)
I meant that the big variety of Jedi could replace the FF characters as these "supportive side characters" in the future of the series.
The unfinished plots with them suggest that they will be cut from the series completely, imho 😕
The FF characters usually made their appearances in the hub world like you mentioned. For DDD, the hub world in a sense was traverse town, so it makes sense that the TWEWY characters replaced the FF characters for that part. If the hub world determines the characters that are replacing FF characters to you, Star Wars will not replace. Star Wars would be its own world and not in quadratum, which will most likely be the hub world.
The Kingdom Hearts version of Palpatine's speech to Anakin would not take very much to adapt. Make the Jedi aware of Darkness and Light, who happen to channel them in a different way, then swap out whenever Palpatine mentions 'death' with 'destiny' and 'the force' with 'darkness'.
Darkness is outside of time and heartless can travel through time to influence the past, creating a kind of haunting and a bootstrap paradox where it isn't clear if someone was already on the road to darkness or if their future self ensured they would be. That would be a very neat way to explore the story of Anakin Skywalker 'haunted' by Darth Vader from the future, thereby ensuring Palpatine's victory.
Hm, how very interesting, i wonder if any of these will ever get another chance? I hope so, i wonder how they would turn out?
I wonder what we can expect next?
One missed oppurtunity was limiting all the FF characters to not just smaller roles throughout the series, but just radiant garden for the most part. Claoud and Squall were at their best in KH2.
I find it rather odd the disney robin hood was never considered for a kh world. A world full of greed which lends itself well to heartless and opens the possibilities for a medieval styled heartless. While maybe werewolf styled heartless could be both scary and interesting. While battling in a big forest and a castle.
where was that last scene from?
I know everyone is saying "Oh Treasure Planet should've been in KH a long time ago!" but honestly I feel The Jungle Book is the world that really should've been in KH a long ago and it's still weird how it hasn't yet considering how basically every other classic Walt Disney Era animated movie has been featured in KH in some way or another and The Jungle Book is just that iconic.
Like, it feels weird how we have high-quality 3D renders of so many classic Disney characters... but then you see people having to use the renders from Jungle Book: Groove Party, you know what I mean?
And I feel either Birth by Sleep or Dream Drop Distance (mostly BbS because of its "past" theme) would've been perfect for it because I feel that old "simple" style of KH worlds would've fit a movie like that more than KH3's style which is a lot more grandiose, same thing with a Sword in the Stone World, really.
And really ever since finding out about The Jungle Book almost being in KH but was scrapped for supposedly already having a jungle world in Neverland and probably because of legal issues with Louis Prima's state, I just can't help but wonder a LOT of things regarding what could've been:
- What was going to be the name of the world?
- How would the world icon have looked like?
- Was it going to be just the plot of the movie?
- A semi-new story, perhaps?
- What were going to be the areas for us to explore?
- How would the story have turned out with Birth by Sleep’s story structure?
- What was going to be the “message/lesson” for Aqua, Ven and Terra to learn?
- Were they going to still be their normal human selves or were they going to actually turn into animals (I assume wolves, given the setting)?
- Who was going to be featured in the world? Obviously Mowgli, Baloo and Bagheera were going to be there, but, would that have been it?
- Was King Louie going to be in the game or we just would've had to explore his empty throne room (this IS a pre-KH3 game, after all)?
- Was Kaa going to be in the game? Maybe even as a boss?
- Who was going to fight Shere Khan?
- Was Shere Khan going to use Terra for something, kinda like some of the other Disney villains in the game?
- Ok, this one is a bit more personal, since it is a Final Fantasy character, but am I the only one who thinks that it’d be neat to meet Red XIII in this world? ...'cuz, y'know, he’s a red dog? In a world based on The Jungle Book? …get it? …erm, moving on...
- Who were going to be the voice actors for the characters? I assume Jim Cummings as Kaa, Bob Joles as Bagheera and Corey Burton as Shere Khan, but, what about Baloo and Mowgli?
- You think they would’ve actually asked Haley Joel Osment to reprise his role as Mowgli, even though his voice wouldn’t have fit at all anymore? ...plus, y'know, him also voicing Vanitas in the game? Boy, that would've been kinda jarring, don't you think?
- How would the Unversed enemies and bosses have looked like? Monkeys? Vultures? Elephants? Snakes?
- What was the music going to sound like? Jungle beats with a bit of jazz?
- Was “The Bare Necessities” going to be the field theme, much like “Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo” was for Cinderella’s world?
- You think we could’ve gotten a dancing mini-game (you know, like The Jungle Book: Groove Party?) but it was scrapped in favor of the one in Disney Town?
- How would the Keyblade for this world have looked like and what was it going to be called?
- Who was going to be the D-Link from this world?
- How was the D-Link going to function?
- Was Shanti going to have a cameo at the end?
I think for me kingdom hearts missing link should have a jungle book and or treasure planet world.
Oswald the lucky rabbit for Kingdom Hearts 4 🐇 🎭 👑
What sucks is that Disney would never approve the SW main trilogy or prequels no matter how better they would make the game. You can already tell that they’re going to force their way with the prequels..(no pun intended)
Ive loved Treasure planet ever since i first saw it as a kid, and i truly believe it does not deserve majority of the hate it got. I would love to see it make a comeback in some way, and possibly have a game mode with us riding on a Solar Board. (I would secretly love a Treasure planet 2 movie as well, but ill take the world for now :D)
Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts is going to be like Tron but twice as worse. Just forced, Not Disney releated at all, does not fit.
If we got that jungle book world would Sora meet Baloo in kh3
Can you do a video about kingdom hearts 4 potentially showing up in game awards 2023 I don't see anyone talking about the possibility
And not having jungle book doesn't even make sense how you can make a kingdom hearts game with all the world and not go to the jungle
a prodigy vid!!!!
It is indeed
Bug's Life Finding Nemo incredibles Cars Up Coco (Brave inside Out) should be the Pixar worlds for Kh4
you forgot the cut toy story world that was going to be in KH1
There's actually more Worlds than that even! In this video however I decided to focus on just a few that had thr most information about them. I would love to make another covering even more Worlds that were considered if you're interested?
If we ever get an Incredibles world, I will do my happy dance
Some Final Fantasy worlds would be good, the lack of characters from the series in KH3 really took a lot of the shine off it for me
No, they wouldn't.
The whole point of the series is to visit Disney worlds whereas the FF characters are just cameos, it was never a MAJOR thing in the games.
And FF worlds wouldn't work because the FF characters in KH are completely different.
And why the hell would we need FF worlds when, for starters, there's still so many Disney movies that they haven't used, and also... you realize it would be just smaller, watered down versions of already-existing games, right?
Why would you visit a theme park version of Midgar or Spira when you can already play the real thing?
Honestly, every time I see people saying "WE NEED FF WORLDS AND NOT DISNEY WORLDS" it just feels like they want Disney to be removed of the equation so badly and pointlessly set themselves up for disappointment.
@@DarkOverlord96 Kingdom Hearts is nothing without Disney.
Treasure planet star wars...atlantis the only ones i can think of i really want some ff worlds tho which i doubt will happen sadly
You forgot about the World of "Too Wong Foo".
id find it hilarious if they ever did marvel, it'd be the square enix avengers
We could've had a third mobile game if we had gotten fragmented key 🔑
I don't think that the players need another mobile game, but I guess Squarenix needs to catch some whales before KH4 🤷
I don't want Star Wars to be in KH. I said it, I don't want to. Why? Because if that's the case, Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine would just be reduced to arc world antagonists and that's it. And sorry not sorry, I don't want to see two of the most iconic, legendary and best villains in the history of fiction being treated like mere obstacles and beaten by Sora. Because yes, I'm a KH fan but I don't find Sora that great of a character, he's just good and fun but that's it. So I don't want him to defeat two of the best villains in existence. Personal opinion there but I don't care if I miss a good world.
What I want though are a world based on Atlantis The Lost Empire and Treasure Planet. Both of these would be beyond perfect.
The problem with trying to get a Star Wars world in Kingdom Hearts is a simple one. Both Disney and Square Enix tried to get away with Deep Jungle in kingdom hearts 1 and got sued for it because disney does not own the tarzan movie.
People also forget that disney does not own star wars officially. Both the star wars cast for episodes 7,8 and 9 and George Lucas have stated publicly that disney only has creative control over the star wars movies. The movie plots are still owned by George Lucas. That is why I can never officially see a star wars world in a kingdom hearts game unless George Lucas is willing to sell all star wars copyrights to disney.
Then how do you explain the AT-ST in Endor?
@DarkOverlord96 I have never seen endor, so I can't answer it. The only Star Wars shows that I've seen are the following:
1. Star Wars the clone wars
2. Star Wars rebels
3. Star Wars the bad batch
I've never been a complete Star Wars fan. But I am a big kingdom hearts fan and disney fan.
I really really don't want star wars in kh. Disney has done nothing but ruin star wars and will ruin it in kh like they did frozen in kh3
Disney did not ruin Frozen in KH3!
2:42 I don’t see it
For Star Wars, I could imagine an ISD Chimaera gummi ship superboss.
i dont give a single fuck about kingdom hearts yet john always got me intrigued
If we get a Star Wars World, please be either Prequels Clone Wars or Original Trilogy, but no fucking sequels for the love of god. The sequels don't have anything to offer besides narrative deficiencies.
The Prequels have shitty writing and stories not worth adapting to Kingdom Hearts.
Unless you really wanna see Jar Jar Binks acting like a space minstrel caricature while smelling some farts, which is apparently TOP TIER writing according to you people.
Stop with your forced and hypocritical revisionism.
Is impossible but I want LoTR world in Kingdom Hearts
Lord of the Ring's is not Disney.
Once Upon a Time would have been a good property to cross over with Kingdom Hearts, as both have original characters interacting with Disney characters (OUaT was less bound to the Disney source material than KH, although things like Frozen were better represented there IMO) as well as themes of light and darkness, and manipulation of hearts. Vexen would give up all research on replicas to investigate the Dark One dagger.
OUAT was based on the actual tales, not the Disney renditions, for one. And to see a cross over with that mediocre show would’ve diminished the value of Kingdom Hearts entirely, and possibly ruined the thematic elements that make KH what it is.
I would absolutely HATE to see Star Wars in KH
It never will. Nomura would also have to make a contract with EA Games who own's the gaming right's to Star Wars.
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I would've like Zootopia
I honestly hope that Star Wars doesn’t make it the cut on KH4 it doesn’t fit at all. Pirates of Caribbean was awkward enough.
Its literally a conflict between the light and the Dark side of the Force with Space Travel and Themes of Hero Journey and Destiny and Fate with Magical Abilities and Knights with magical Swords powered by Crystals that can appear and dissapear in battle
How much copeium can one take
kh is already used up too many disney worlds that eventually they have to do other worlds thats not disney so eventually alot has to not fit soon anyway
@monokomomo4977 Bruh, they have DOZENS of Disney movies they still haven't used, what are you talking about?
@@monokomomo4977 Kingdom Hearts is nothing without Disney.
That sucks! I loved The Jungle Book growing up! And of course Kathleen Kennedy wasn't going to allow Square Enix to make a Star Wars world! Least of all the Clone Wars! That would involve showing fans how awesome the original characters from BEFORE her reign were! Of course that can't happen on her watch. And I agree that Treasure Planet would be awesome!
But good news Dave filloni will allow it
@@jimmergames LOL! I'll believe that when I see it! Disney has lost so much of my trust in recent years. And Filoni lost his fair share too. With my luck he'll require they do just what Kennedy would have done...I'll spare you the South Park quote...
Do you really think your misogyny towards Kathleen Kennedy has anything to do with all this?
Also, it's pretty clear Return of the Jedi is gonna be in KH4, ergo s movie before "her reign" (God you sound to damn stupid when you say it).
I honestly hope they end up cutting it because Star Wars fanboys like you don't deserve anything after all the death threats you sent to the directors and actors.
Oh and of course your only point of reference is a the South Park parody which ALSO made fun of idiots like you who hate women doing something important.