I've said it before. I'll say it again. I love the humour in your videos. The cut scenes are so well selected. Brilliantly informative and entertaining 😂👌
Maybe I missed it in the video, but there should definitely be a note about needing to reverse the motor direction and making a small gearing change to make up for the lost reduction in the hubs! I loved this mod though. Nothing better than a low slung crawler
This is great, Matt, and this is one of the main reasons why I watch rc truck videos to learn what mods to consider and not consider without having to waste a lot of money. I can't imagine anyone getting upset with someone else testing various setups and providing pluses and minuses. You and Josh's videos are very helpful in this manner, not to mention very entertaining.
Buying a TRX-4 kit, where portal axles is a key feature, using it for a budget build, and spending $120 to delete that feature, doesn't make a lot of sense. But each to their own.
Thank you!! I can't tell you how much it bothers me that people claim to have scale rigs that are not actually scale... portals on Broncos and non-porals on unimogs just confuses the shit out of me. I like to only own RC s that actually exist in the real world. Now you have to covert your UMG to portals Mr. Scale Builder. Love your channel!!!
@@jimmccabe801 i dont doubt you have....but at the same time you really dont. I have been on the actual Rubicon Trail several times and been wheeling at Hollister Hills a few times...guess what? NEVER seen a portal axel rig on the trail except a unimog. Not once. Ever.
We have Axial (no portal) and Traxxas (std portal). Portal have may advantage for obstacles between wheels, the problems with high center of gravity are more caused by high and heavy top, than by portals. Removing portals make the chassis lower and gives more problems with short transverse obstacles. I think is foolish ! To solve problems, buy Sport model from Traxxas instead of more expensive models ! Quite foolish too, but real solution !
This is the Sport. I've addressed a lot of chassis CG lowering techniques, and this was another option, so I went for it. Don't like it? No problem! Enjoy your truck the way you want to!
I think it's a great idea plus it will provide great information to us consumers to see see if there is value in it.... Or is it justified in a build. Queue the running video!
Oh man, that is awesome I bought the delete kit and then bought the sport kit so I had a comparison. Remember to gear down before you head out to a 45/9 or you will nuke that motor with the lack of portal gear Reduction!
Can’t complain about taking the rig in a different direction to usual, will definitely be interesting to see how it performs next week and if it’s was a good idea or not 👍🏻
I am surprised that you beat Harley to this after hearing him go on and on about higher cog. I have heard about the portal delete kit but have yet to hear anyone's feedback on them so I was really hoping one of you guys would check it out. Thanks for taking one for the team!
That’s actually awesome. Been on a little portal kick lately and I’m leaning more and more towards AR60 or ar44 axles for my custom build. Great update.
I know this video isn't new, but as I'm getting a TRX4 Sport I've been watching both of these build offs. Great series and subbed to both channels. I get removing portals to lower COG, but why run a hidden cage under a painted camper effectively raising COG??
The weight removed vastly outweighs the weight gained. And sometimes, it's nice to do something for the look of it, rather than always worrying about performance.
@@scalebuildersguild Thanks for the reply. That makes sense, especially considering you are the "Scale Builders Guild". Keep the content and sense of humor coming and truck on. 👍
Nice! I was searching earlier this year build topics or running videos about TRX-4 with portal delete kit. I didn't found any. Also research trx-4 gearing with portal delete kit, smaller motor pinion suggested.. I guess :) So waiting for running video with portal delete kit. Big thumbs up!
Its simple ... he made it different than it was made originally. Did not say it was the most original thing ever. Obviously not because they mass produce the portal deletes. Maybe you need to take a nap nancy!
From what I've seen from the comps I've been to, the low COG straight axle trucks have been beating up the portal trucks. Portals do work good on the trails though
If you do portals correctly, just like traxxas did, you do not raise the truck, you just tuck away the axles. I believe it's a misconception that portals gives you more ride hight.
This is awesome. I cant wait to see what all the Traxxas fan boys have to say about this. I dont get all the brand and build bashing going on nowadays. I say its your hobby do what you want. Good on you.
@@scalebuildersguild the two main things stopping me from buying this truck are the portals and where the battery sits. I like the battery placement on the element Enduro, and the vs410.
Yes, they are gone. I just don't like portal axles except on a few things. Now that I know this option is out there I may get a TRX4 kit but probably not. Matt since you are liking to give away bodies lately I'll take the sweet Comanche sitting in the background.
Well if it's not available yet that means I asked first. From what I can see you did an amazing job. You have great body working and hard body painting skills.
I've actually been wondering about something like this, probably not something I'd do but I'm sure some would. Interesting to see and I want to see how it performs now. The Michael Scott reference is good too! 😂😂
It’s your truck so do what you want. That said I told Harley Designs not to do the aftermarket chassis. So I think you should have left it alone. Looking forward to seeing how it works.
SSD makes some reLly nice parts I have lots of sad items on a couple of my rigs and they look great and made my rigs look more scale and added beef tubes to add a little weight down low.
I wager you'll see our old friend torque twist return with a vengeance compared to stock, but the lower CoG is likely worth it once you do some good ol tuning to combat the TT. I have been contemplating a non portal swap for my Sport but haven't tried anything yet.
Enjoy the portal delete but think you could have went over it alittle more. Instead of just speeding threw it all. Some people would like to see how this is done
You make a great point. Honestly, I was very preoccupied with a couple other things this week and to make sure the video got out, I had to rush the actual conversion and time lapse it. It's a pretty detailed and easy conversion. SSD provides all the parts, good instructions, and excellent fitment. You will want to gear down, as you're losing a bunch of reduction at the axle. Although, this might make for a new Dragbolt contender... ;)
Portals? We don't need no stinking portals:D Nothing wrong with trying something outside of the box and am interested to see how the driving characteristics change with the modification.
Amen Kevin. People who are so aggressively upset about this need to realize that this hobby is very personal, and we build our trucks to our own specs.
I have been debating doing this for a while on my trx4 but ill watch and see the running video. How much gear ratio did you lose and how much did it possibly speed up the the overall truck without the portals
I too have been considering it, but its a salty cost to not just sell the trx axles and swap something else under it instead. The loss of gear reduction also has me a bit concerned about it. If there was a cheaper option out there to try it out, I would have likely already done it. Seems to be very un popular swap in general. Good luck though, I'll be watching.
I would really like to see Traxxas make a new crawler chassis non portal rig , with a detailed licensed body that hasnt been over done yet. Word on the streets is Axials new trail truck has portals.
Got my 90’s theme patch from you that y’all where giving out at proline by the fire.. I was there never remember seeing then but I had to have one lol .....great video as always I like the portal delete can’t wait to see the running video
Man you got to let me know when you do something like this before you post the video so I can stock the hobby store with this stuff, usually by the time I'm back to work it's backordered LOL. Ssd portal deletes backordered everywhere... Im going to have to change order days to Wednesday 😆! Great stuff!
How about the gear ratio ? Without portals you will increase the final gear ratio. Will you also change the pinion/spur gears, ou will stay with a faster rig in the end?
Great direction people think portals are a fix all for performance, Side note saw the Comanche on Reddit yesterday and was hoping to see it behind you thing look awesome
what brand of bits ate you using? I have the same drill and I am having a hard time finding bits to fit for hobby rc purposes. if you could drop a link it would be much appreciated. thanks in advance
I've said it before. I'll say it again. I love the humour in your videos. The cut scenes are so well selected. Brilliantly informative and entertaining 😂👌
Very kind, thanks a lot!
I couldn't agree more!
Maybe I missed it in the video, but there should definitely be a note about needing to reverse the motor direction and making a small gearing change to make up for the lost reduction in the hubs! I loved this mod though. Nothing better than a low slung crawler
Also narrows the axle width by 12mm
@@JK-qv8sv another huge plus, and for sure deserves a mention!
Good points! And thanks for doing it for me! ;)
This is great, Matt, and this is one of the main reasons why I watch rc truck videos to learn what mods to consider and not consider without having to waste a lot of money. I can't imagine anyone getting upset with someone else testing various setups and providing pluses and minuses. You and Josh's videos are very helpful in this manner, not to mention very entertaining.
Thanks John, very kind words.
Buying a TRX-4 kit, where portal axles is a key feature, using it for a budget build, and spending $120 to delete that feature, doesn't make a lot of sense. But each to their own.
I did something different, and that's all the sense I needed to make.
I was looking into getting TRX4 sport for the Portal axles. Dude removes them😂😂😂😂 Hands down made me chuckle😂😂😂😂
(Harley watches vid) We can do that?
Dammit!
HAHAHAHAHA
😂😂😂😂
Hahaha I pictured that
Thank you!! I can't tell you how much it bothers me that people claim to have scale rigs that are not actually scale... portals on Broncos and non-porals on unimogs just confuses the shit out of me. I like to only own RC s that actually exist in the real world. Now you have to covert your UMG to portals Mr. Scale Builder. Love your channel!!!
I've seen portal axle on one to one crawlers. So they are scale on 10th scale crawlers.
@@jimmccabe801 i dont doubt you have....but at the same time you really dont. I have been on the actual Rubicon Trail several times and been wheeling at Hollister Hills a few times...guess what? NEVER seen a portal axel rig on the trail except a unimog. Not once. Ever.
Portals have their place, and I have seen them on buggies, so it's a thing for sure. Never seen them on a Bronco, or a Blazer though. ;)
@@michaelburton831 so because you've not seen them on a vehicle means they aren't scale on rc crawlers. Ok.
@@scalebuildersguild I think the reason we don't see portals often is the expense. Just my opinion.
We have Axial (no portal) and Traxxas (std portal).
Portal have may advantage for obstacles between wheels, the problems with high center of gravity are more caused by high and heavy top, than by portals.
Removing portals make the chassis lower and gives more problems with short transverse obstacles.
I think is foolish !
To solve problems, buy Sport model from Traxxas instead of more expensive models !
Quite foolish too, but real solution !
This is the Sport. I've addressed a lot of chassis CG lowering techniques, and this was another option, so I went for it. Don't like it? No problem! Enjoy your truck the way you want to!
I think it's a great idea plus it will provide great information to us consumers to see see if there is value in it.... Or is it justified in a build.
Queue the running video!
It's in the Queue! Thanks for watching!
Just got on board with the build. Very interesting. Cant wait to see what comes next!
Fun stuff has been happening!
I can’t wait to see next week’s running video. Will compare that to the first one. With portals versus deleted portals.
If I can manage it, I'll take a stock TRX4 Sport with me as a direct comparison.
Yaaaaas!!!🥳🥳🥳 I’m so stoked on this build now!! Been waiting for someone to do this
It had to be done.
Well if there was anyone who could do it, it was definitely you my man! Bold move, love the way your brain works. SBG4THEWIN!
Brain not work so well.
Yay! Had no idea it would lower it that much. Looks to be a very worthwhile mod.
Not without it's setbacks, but I like the challenge!
Oh man, that is awesome I bought the delete kit and then bought the sport kit so I had a comparison. Remember to gear down before you head out to a 45/9 or you will nuke that motor with the lack of portal gear Reduction!
Thanks for the tip. Some reduction is definitely needed! And motor reversing too!
@@scalebuildersguild I did not realize the reversing, was building mine from the ground up!
I’ve had these in my wishlist for a couple of weeks now! Nice to see them in a video!!
Stand by for my full rundown!
Can’t complain about taking the rig in a different direction to usual, will definitely be interesting to see how it performs next week and if it’s was a good idea or not 👍🏻
The suspense is killing me!
Yes! I love my portal delete! Be ware the new gearing is around 30:1 and the motor rotation needs to be swapped. I can't wait to see your run video!
Thanks for the tips!
Awesome 👏 can’t wait to see how it runs.
Me too!
I am surprised that you beat Harley to this after hearing him go on and on about higher cog. I have heard about the portal delete kit but have yet to hear anyone's feedback on them so I was really hoping one of you guys would check it out. Thanks for taking one for the team!
I'm more than happy to! Thanks for the feedback!
One less thing to break by deleting the portals, plus lower CG. Nice job raising those tires up.
Cheers Sean!
I got to see the performance of the RC after this mod... wow I can't believe y'all did this....great content keep it up...
Tell me more!
@@scalebuildersguild are you interested in selling the portal parts you took off?
That’s actually awesome. Been on a little portal kick lately and I’m leaning more and more towards AR60 or ar44 axles for my custom build. Great update.
Thank you sir!
About time someone did it... Portals just don't look right .. In my humble opinion.. Nice work. Look forward to the run .. :P
I am also looking forward to it. Thanks!
Oh my! So much win! 😍😍😍😍😍😍 I’m so sick of portal axles and now that I know these are out, I might consider a Traxxas scaler in the future.
Ha! Glad I could help inspire.
I know this video isn't new, but as I'm getting a TRX4 Sport I've been watching both of these build offs. Great series and subbed to both channels.
I get removing portals to lower COG, but why run a hidden cage under a painted camper effectively raising COG??
The weight removed vastly outweighs the weight gained. And sometimes, it's nice to do something for the look of it, rather than always worrying about performance.
@@scalebuildersguild Thanks for the reply. That makes sense, especially considering you are the "Scale Builders Guild". Keep the content and sense of humor coming and truck on. 👍
I think you're ready to go without the training wheels! Good job!
HAHAHAH Comment of the day!
I love you because of this
HAHAHAHA
Nice! I was searching earlier this year build topics or running videos about TRX-4 with portal delete kit. I didn't found any. Also research trx-4 gearing with portal delete kit, smaller motor pinion suggested.. I guess :) So waiting for running video with portal delete kit. Big thumbs up!
Yes, smaller pinion and larger spur if possible.
I like it bro! Way to cut the crap! Finally something different to bring to the table!
Its simple ... he made it different than it was made originally. Did not say it was the most original thing ever. Obviously not because they mass produce the portal deletes. Maybe you need to take a nap nancy!
Lol 😝 thanks for the laugh RC guy! Way to be original yourself!
This is going to be interesting, can't wait see the running video .!!
Hope you're watching right now!
The Comanche came out great!
Thanks!
I think you should flip the existing axles 180 degrees and make a portal low-rider.
Not a terrible idea. ;)
Another great video, just got a military fanny pack on the WishApp, iv been diving around like chuck norris dodging bullets in the front yard all day.
🤣😂🤣👍
Heck yeah you have!
Now I'm ready for the running video I was listening you said Vs4-10 Pro ,5th Gen 4runner and my favorite Jeep Comanche
Comanche will get some run time this weekend!
@@scalebuildersguild Great builds hope to see a video on it thanks
From what I've seen from the comps I've been to, the low COG straight axle trucks have been beating up the portal trucks. Portals do work good on the trails though
100%. I've yet to see a portal axled truck win a comp.
Heck yea can't wait to see how it does 🖒
Me too!
If you do portals correctly, just like traxxas did, you do not raise the truck, you just tuck away the axles. I believe it's a misconception that portals gives you more ride hight.
Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but there’s empirical proof that the portal changed the ride height here.
This is awesome. I cant wait to see what all the Traxxas fan boys have to say about this. I dont get all the brand and build bashing going on nowadays. I say its your hobby do what you want. Good on you.
I want portals🤣
You can have them!
Thank you Travis, it's fun to make these trucks our own, isn't it?
If this truck came like this without the portals, I would consider buying it.
Nothing stopping them. I'm surprised they didn't yet!
@@scalebuildersguild the two main things stopping me from buying this truck are the portals and where the battery sits. I like the battery placement on the element Enduro, and the vs410.
Yes, they are gone. I just don't like portal axles except on a few things. Now that I know this option is out there I may get a TRX4 kit but probably not. Matt since you are liking to give away bodies lately I'll take the sweet Comanche sitting in the background.
HA! That Comanche is not available. Yet.
Well if it's not available yet that means I asked first. From what I can see you did an amazing job. You have great body working and hard body painting skills.
Gregg Mundkowsky you’re very kind. If I do decide to offload it, I’ll keep you in mind.
Thanks for another awesome video!
Thanks for watching!
Well done sir 👏
Cheers!
I've actually been wondering about something like this, probably not something I'd do but I'm sure some would. Interesting to see and I want to see how it performs now. The Michael Scott reference is good too! 😂😂
Any Office reference is required.
Scale Builder's Guild that's what she said, or he said 🤔
It’s your truck so do what you want. That said I told Harley Designs not to do the aftermarket chassis. So I think you should have left it alone. Looking forward to seeing how it works.
Works pretty good! Definitely needs some re-gearing now.
i found this to be your funniest video yet.I think i'd just by any other truck without portals to begin with? boy i'm still laughing, great stuff!
Ha! Thanks very much. My intention was always to try these out.
This is going to be interesting can’t wait to see how it does come on next Wednesday
Cheers! Hoping to have another TRX4 on hand for comparison.
That would be very interesting
If you were closer to me I would come crawl with you
@@BDcumminsdiesel Hoping I can get the timing right.
SSD makes some reLly nice parts I have lots of sad items on a couple of my rigs and they look great and made my rigs look more scale and added beef tubes to add a little weight down low.
Nice choices!
Yahoo!! That's awesome!!!!!
Haha, it is something!
I think the hardest thing to wrap my head around this build is the whole "Budget and Traxxas" thing.
Heck, "budget", and any truck!
Great now traxxas will release 70 new types of trx4 same truck different color bodies in the near future with out portals. Nice build!
I seriously doubt it. 😂
I wager you'll see our old friend torque twist return with a vengeance compared to stock, but the lower CoG is likely worth it once you do some good ol tuning to combat the TT.
I have been contemplating a non portal swap for my Sport but haven't tried anything yet.
Nah, no torque twist so far.
I anticipate a steep climb on a running video then Matt 😎
I do find that the portals make it easier to drive compared to my friends rigs with normal axles but I can see why you did it. Looks cool 👍
Portals have their advantages, of course. But I still feel like line choice can make a difference. We'll find out!
Scale Builder's Guild absolutely man, I’m going to run the standard portals for now 😂😂 I love them
@@dangavin they are bulletproof too
Im surprised harley hasnt done it already with how much he complains about the cog and portals..
He does enjoy a good complaint.
To boldly go, where no portal has gone before! ;)
To boldly delete portals, where no man has gone before!
You did What.............
Wow that’s pretty drastic.
Heck yeah it is.
This has a similar weight layout to the VS4-10 pro. Looks like a good alternative and you get an offset front axle!
Not a terrible idea!
Enjoy the portal delete but think you could have went over it alittle more. Instead of just speeding threw it all. Some people would like to see how this is done
It's close to the end of the build off, we are lucky he hasn't thrown the whole project off a roof yet 😂 lol
You make a great point. Honestly, I was very preoccupied with a couple other things this week and to make sure the video got out, I had to rush the actual conversion and time lapse it. It's a pretty detailed and easy conversion. SSD provides all the parts, good instructions, and excellent fitment. You will want to gear down, as you're losing a bunch of reduction at the axle. Although, this might make for a new Dragbolt contender... ;)
You made me LOL.
@@scalebuildersguild thought it might 😁 can't wait to see how the straight axle mod performs!
Sweet! More realism!
Portals? We don't need no stinking portals:D Nothing wrong with trying something outside of the box and am interested to see how the driving characteristics change with the modification.
Amen Kevin. People who are so aggressively upset about this need to realize that this hobby is very personal, and we build our trucks to our own specs.
I'm not surprised.
Neither am I.
Not mad at you at all! This might be the difference maker😉
It might totally be!
Im always here every episode.
Cheers to that!
Loving the older videos
It’s strange to see this mod, but this is a challenge so...god luck buddie!!! I’m curious to see how it will run.
A challenge indeed!
The gearing is the some 🤔. That pretty cool .. Can't wait to see ! On the stock gear.... NC MOUNTAINS ❤..👍
Gearing is not the same. Way higher now. Reduction will occur.
I have been debating doing this for a while on my trx4 but ill watch and see the running video. How much gear ratio did you lose and how much did it possibly speed up the the overall truck without the portals
I lost a ton of reduction. I'll be modifying to get it back. Tons of speed now.
@@scalebuildersguild original gear ratio:
- differential: 3.09:1
- portal axle: 2.30:1
- transmission: 2.22:1
- pinion/spur: 2.29:1
- overall: ~36.2:1
since the portals are deleted; new overall ratio: ~15:1
potential changes:
- min. 2200 kv equiv. (to keep ~8 mph top speed)
- 9T pinion gear for the new motor
- 45T spur gear
- underdrive pinion/ring gears to both axles for additional reduction
new calculation:
- differential: 3.50:1
- NO-portal axle: 1:1
- transmission: 2.22:1
- pinion/spur: 5:1
- overall: ~39:1
:)
I too have been considering it, but its a salty cost to not just sell the trx axles and swap something else under it instead. The loss of gear reduction also has me a bit concerned about it. If there was a cheaper option out there to try it out, I would have likely already done it. Seems to be very un popular swap in general. Good luck though, I'll be watching.
A re-gear is definitely in order and I will address that soon.
curious to see if it gets any torque twist.
I didn't see any.
YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! Just say no to portals, unless it's a Unimog or one of the other very few vehicles that came with them.
Axial UMG without portals made me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
UMG Will get a swap!
I like it! Portals are for unimogs!
And c303's!
Good idea to change because the weight is lower😊👍
MUCH LOWER!
I back this change 100%
Thanks Wes, I'm curious to see how it does now.
I smashed the like button! LOL
Much thanks!
I would really like to see Traxxas make a new crawler chassis non portal rig , with a detailed licensed body that hasnt been over done yet.
Word on the streets is Axials new trail truck has portals.
So would I! Maybe this will be the series to push them over the edge.
@@scalebuildersguild and in kit form!
Best upgrade! Although I was kinda hoping for VP Currie axles😁
Hmm, I do have a set sitting here...
Got my 90’s theme patch from you that y’all where giving out at proline by the fire.. I was there never remember seeing then but I had to have one lol .....great video as always I like the portal delete can’t wait to see the running video
Glad you were able to get one!
Man you got to let me know when you do something like this before you post the video so I can stock the hobby store with this stuff, usually by the time I'm back to work it's backordered LOL. Ssd portal deletes backordered everywhere... Im going to have to change order days to Wednesday 😆! Great stuff!
Dang! I created a Monster! Hahahaa
Wow, I bet a lot of folks just lost it. To be honest I really don't care what people run, just as long as they enjoy the hobby. Thanks for the smile.
AMEN TO THIS!
@@scalebuildersguild I was worried I had offended and wasn't going to get a response. Keep up the get videos love them.
So cool
Thanks!
How about the gear ratio ? Without portals you will increase the final gear ratio. Will you also change the pinion/spur gears, ou will stay with a faster rig in the end?
Pinion and spur should definitely be looked at, unless you want to blow up your motor. ;)
Interested to see how it performs at low speed since the portal hub has a reduction on it so now it should be faster than before
Provided you leave the gearing as-is. Which I likely won't be.
Both at roughly half the views from week 5 to week 12. Do you regret picking the TRX4 for a budget build?
Not really. It's fun to do things that others might not consider. If I did this for the views, I'd do a lot more "WE BWOKE IT" videos.
I love these, regardless of the kit u guys use. Keep it up, thanks!
now you have my attention! bring on the run vid.
It's here!
@@scalebuildersguild WHOOP WHOOP!
"That's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off"
IT HAS!
Not something i'd do, but hey, you do you :D my current project is modifying a servo for a Winch and somehow attach it
FUN!
Great direction people think portals are a fix all for performance,
Side note saw the Comanche on Reddit yesterday and was hoping to see it behind you thing look awesome
They have their place for sure.
what brand of bits ate you using? I have the same drill and I am having a hard time finding bits to fit for hobby rc purposes. if you could drop a link it would be much appreciated. thanks in advance
Reefs RC makes a set!
Crazy’s cool keep it up awesome work I’ll be ordering a tee shirt soon 🤘
Noice! Thanks for the support!
Did you have to change motor spin direction?
Yes!
It looks better for sure, we will see in the running video if it was worth the "ONE MILLION DOLLARS"
At least I didn't use the 100 Billion dollars comment!
Will be cool to see what you think after you run it. Buh bye portals. Lol.
I like it better. Portals have their place, but this is pretty cool.
Traxxas probably regrets you getting your hands on this thing haha
Ha! They very well might.
What are you doing with the portals would love to have or buy them
Keeping them so I can add them to the other portals I have.
A lot of people down voted this, i guess they didn't liked that you removed the portal axles :)
Hater's gonna hate.
Not all rigs run portals. Think it is a good idea to think outside the box with a TRX4. Keep up the good work
I'm doing what I can!
Bold move
Like a fine salsa.
Is there going to be tire rub on the inner fender?
Nope!
Well...to each their own.
Yep!
Just choked on my coffee best thing you could of done portals are shite imo
HAHAHAHA