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I always put the Hurricane in the same category as its American counterpart the P-40. Underrated and never appreciated for it's contributions to the war effort.
Hurricanes were replaced by P-40s as quickly as was possible. P-40 was a second tier fighter, the Hurricane was 3rd tier and never a competetive front line fighter even in 1940.
@@PauloPereira-jj4jv Hurricanes, as fighters, were replaced as much as allowed. First by P-40s in North Africa starting in 1941, and by Spitfires in Britain and Malta (1942). In the CBI, they were kept in use until replaced by Spitfires, P-47's, etc. Like I said, as a front line day fighter, it was obsolete.
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 test pilot skills are not equal to fighter pilots skills. Given time and opportunity, I'm sure he would have been a successful fighter pilot.
Amazing character, massive balls & a real gem. Capt Brown would be horrified at what the western world has become over recent years. But he reminds us of what we're capable of.
@@andrewstewart9263 Every time I visit my dad's grave, a WW2 vet, I expect to see the ground around him heaved up from all the vets turning over in their graves.
It was an incredible time in history! My generation experienced the aftermath through parents, teachers, etc - war torn and rebuilding the country and their lives while raising families. Their youth was taken away, and the effects would be with them throughout their lives. An incredible generation of youngsters - passing on their abilities to make much of little to their children. Almost everything in play for a fifties child was war related!
The Hurricane had the lowest kill ratio of the battle. After that it wasn't really qualified as a front line day fighter but it was deployed anyways, to the detriment of our brave lads including my father.
@@bobsakamanos4469 yes, the Hurricane was vitally important throughout much of the war, but as a pure fighter it became obsolete as early as 1941. Hurricanes tasked with defending Malta and faced with the new bf109F had a desperately hard time. Some of those Hurricanes were still mark 1s and were little better than death traps for the unfortunate pilots. For too long, the RAF hesitated to deploy spitfires abroad, but eventually Malta told London, either you give us spitfires or we will have to surrender. At last, the RAF commanders listened, and the Royal Navy, assisted twice by the USS Wasp, ferried spitfire Vs to within ferry range of Malta. They turned the tide of the Malta air war under the direction of Sir Keith Park. Hurricanes soldiered on in the ground attack role in some of the more remote theatres of war, notably Burma, where they operated under the cover of spitfire VIIIs, although the RAF began upgrading Hurricane units in India and Burma to the faster and more powerful P-47 thunderbolt
I am incredibly impressed, by the illustrious career of Captain Brown. The expression isn't new, but after practising all the emergency procedures, and having had some of my own harrowing experiences, a pilot still wants to have a little luck. I had an all jet flying career, starting in 1965 on the Canadian Tutor. All the RCAF pilots in my generation, also got to fly the Canadian T-33, with no nosewheel steering, and the Rolls-Royce Nene 10 engine, which had the same engine acceleration problem as was described by Captain Brown. It was still a great aircraft to fly. I flew with a lot of the earlier generation of RCAF pilots who flew the Sabre in Germany, and all of them stated, that the Tutor, was the next best thing to the Sabre in terms of performance and handling. I think that the proof that, is that even though it has been retired as the basic training aircraft, it is still being used by the Canadian demonstration team, The Snowbirds.
@@bobsakamanos4469 I knew Harv May, (Sabre generation), and Bob Stickley, (the RMC course ahead of mine in MJ). My instructor on T-Birds, was Mike Carle (Clunks in Europe).
Glory goes to the aircraft and its designers that was most effective; ie the Spitfire. The Hurricane was available in more numbers during the BoB ONLY because Lord Nuffield delayed production of Castle Bromwich. One wonders if he had shares in Hawker. ed: Nuffield, while delaying construction of CBF and Spitfire production, had invested £100,000 of his own money in the Nuffield-Napier-Heston racer that was to showcase the Sabre engine to be used in the Hawker Typhoon. Nuffield was certainly invested in the Hawker competion. Camms best solution to meet the requirements of the next gen fighter would have been to update the Hurricane with a Meredith radiator scheme and and thinner wing, both problems of which he was fully aware in 1936. Kudos to the Vintage Wings lads for their restorations.
Poland had ordered some Hurricane I’s. The first from RAF stocks had the 2 bladed propeller. It was to arrive September 1, 1939 at Gydnia. What happened to it is unknown.
One aircraft, L2048, was shipped "in advance" to Poland in July 1939. Presumably that's the aircraft you mean. Further batches of Mk 1s were earmarked by Hawker for the Polish contract, but Poland had collapsed before they were completed. The RAF did not at that time see any use in aircraft with instruments in Polish, so Hawker sold them to Gloster (of Gladiator fame) who converted them, and on sold them to Finland (at that stage, at war with the USSR) in 1940. Next year, Hawker was supplying Hurricanes to the Soviet air force 😊
@@mikebenson1907 Yes, that is the one, the tail number sticks in my mind. As one that builds model kits, I made a Hurricane up in 1/72,scale to resemble it, there was good reference to the camouflage of that period and I replaced the propeller with a 2 bladed type with an appropriate spinner. As it would be a test aircraft, I painted the rudder white, this is what the Poles did on prototype aircraft, and made the assumption that the first aircraft would undergo testing. The Poles had also ordered MS 406 aircraft from France that were supposed to be shipped through Romania but the war ended that shipment as well.
Sure y'all mentioned American pilots but conveniently forgot about Poles and Czechs (and about a Czech who considered himself a Pole). I see Brits still need to come to bear with the fact other people saved their hind quarters 😂😂😂
Frederick Lanchester, english mathematician/engineer produce a paper on the benefits of the elliptical wing in 1907. Prandtl then cribbed that and produced his own paper in 1918 called the Lanchester-Prandtl wing theory. RJ Mitchell for his part knew all about elliptical wings and had used them since the 1920's.
Not at all. It was elliptical but not exclusively German. Also, the Spitfire's wing was designed by Canadian engineer, Beverly Shenstone. That's a man by the way. Beverly used to be a dual sex name.
The Mossie was faster, had more firepower ,much longer range and could fly higher than any hurricane or spitfire in fighter format. Does anyone know why the British did not utilize the Mossie to go after the German bombers instead of the Hurricanes. They could have harassed the bombers all the way home and out ran the 109 fighters and F.W. back to the relative safety of England as long as their timimg was right. They could have lost the navigator and been a lighter aircraft. For that matter why wasnt the Mossie used to excort the heavy bombers to their target Until The dedicated fighters for such a mission were available ? The logistics would have been decently easy. The Mossie could have set at 30,000 ft. Or higher at the coast Waiting for the German bombers to dive on them over the channel. Just wondering....
@@beeleo I know. If people are going to complain about the music, at least they should know what they're talking about. And pick a video that actually has background music. Geez.
the Eric Brown section wrongly says that the speed of sound reduces with height, but it is the reduction in ambient temperature that is respossible . The speed of sound is variable by temperarure...look it up
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My great grandfather flew these aircraft in world war two, with the Royal Air Force 312 (Czechoslovak) Squadron ^^
I always put the Hurricane in the same category as its American counterpart the P-40. Underrated and never appreciated for it's contributions to the war effort.
They made great ground attack planes and were hard to break.
Hurricanes were replaced by P-40s as quickly as was possible. P-40 was a second tier fighter, the Hurricane was 3rd tier and never a competetive front line fighter even in 1940.
@@PauloPereira-jj4jv Hurricanes, as fighters, were replaced as much as allowed. First by P-40s in North Africa starting in 1941, and by Spitfires in Britain and Malta (1942). In the CBI, they were kept in use until replaced by Spitfires, P-47's, etc. Like I said, as a front line day fighter, it was obsolete.
@@PauloPereira-jj4jv read my comments again. I refer to fighters. You refer to the attack role needing top cover and air superiority.
😂😂😂@@bobsakamanos4469
I'm an American and I say Capt Brown was the BEST pilot of his generation PERIOD, regardless of citizenship.
Best test pilot, not best fighter pilot.
He fought off Norway and the Bay of Biscay, he was taken off carriers because of his exceptional pilot skills.
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 test pilot skills are not equal to fighter pilots skills. Given time and opportunity, I'm sure he would have been a successful fighter pilot.
Amazing character, massive balls & a real gem.
Capt Brown would be horrified at what the western world has become over recent years. But he reminds us of what we're capable of.
@@andrewstewart9263 Every time I visit my dad's grave, a WW2 vet, I expect to see the ground around him heaved up from all the vets turning over in their graves.
It was an incredible time in history! My generation experienced the aftermath through parents, teachers, etc - war torn and rebuilding the country and their lives while raising families.
Their youth was taken away, and the effects would be with them throughout their lives.
An incredible generation of youngsters - passing on their abilities to make much of little to their children.
Almost everything in play for a fifties child was war related!
Thanks to all of the young men and women who sacrificed their lives and their youth for our freedom 😊
Fabulous, enjoyed every minute,
Glad you enjoyed it
The Hurricane did far more then the Spitfire when one actually looks into it. Without it things would have been a lot different.
Correct.
The Hurricane had the lowest kill ratio of the battle. After that it wasn't really qualified as a front line day fighter but it was deployed anyways, to the detriment of our brave lads including my father.
@@bobsakamanos4469 yes, the Hurricane was vitally important throughout much of the war, but as a pure fighter it became obsolete as early as 1941. Hurricanes tasked with defending Malta and faced with the new bf109F had a desperately hard time. Some of those Hurricanes were still mark 1s and were little better than death traps for the unfortunate pilots. For too long, the RAF hesitated to deploy spitfires abroad, but eventually Malta told London, either you give us spitfires or we will have to surrender. At last, the RAF commanders listened, and the Royal Navy, assisted twice by the USS Wasp, ferried spitfire Vs to within ferry range of Malta. They turned the tide of the Malta air war under the direction of Sir Keith Park.
Hurricanes soldiered on in the ground attack role in some of the more remote theatres of war, notably Burma, where they operated under the cover of spitfire VIIIs, although the RAF began upgrading Hurricane units in India and Burma to the faster and more powerful P-47 thunderbolt
Always overlooked because the Spitfire
enjoyed the hawker and jim brown information
Fantastic fighter aircraft which flew with flying colours wherever it was sent.
I am incredibly impressed, by the illustrious career of Captain Brown. The expression isn't new, but after practising all the emergency procedures, and having had some of my own harrowing experiences, a pilot still wants to have a little luck.
I had an all jet flying career, starting in 1965 on the Canadian Tutor. All the RCAF pilots in my generation, also got to fly the Canadian T-33, with no nosewheel steering, and the Rolls-Royce Nene 10 engine, which had the same engine acceleration problem as was described by Captain Brown. It was still a great aircraft to fly.
I flew with a lot of the earlier generation of RCAF pilots who flew the Sabre in Germany, and all of them stated, that the Tutor, was the next best thing to the Sabre in terms of performance and handling. I think that the proof that, is that even though it has been retired as the basic training aircraft, it is still being used by the Canadian demonstration team, The Snowbirds.
Did you know Jim MacBain? He flew Sabres in Marville, Lorraine. The Mk.5 & 6 were much better than the standard Sabres.
@@bobsakamanos4469 I knew guys that were on squadron in Marville, but I had never met Jim MacBain.
@@jjock3239 short guy, red hair, older than you. How about Harvy May (Clunks) or Bob Stickley (T-33's in Rivers)
@@bobsakamanos4469 I knew Harv May, (Sabre generation), and Bob Stickley, (the RMC course ahead of mine in MJ). My instructor on T-Birds, was Mike Carle (Clunks in Europe).
@@jjock3239 Stick was a great guy. Started (Harvards) and finished (BComd) his career in Penhold.
Hurricane looks so nice in Finnish air force painting...
Glory goes to the aircraft and its designers that was most effective; ie the Spitfire. The Hurricane was available in more numbers during the BoB ONLY because Lord Nuffield delayed production of Castle Bromwich. One wonders if he had shares in Hawker.
ed: Nuffield, while delaying construction of CBF and Spitfire production, had invested £100,000 of his own money in the Nuffield-Napier-Heston racer that was to showcase the Sabre engine to be used in the Hawker Typhoon. Nuffield was certainly invested in the Hawker competion.
Camms best solution to meet the requirements of the next gen fighter would have been to update the Hurricane with a Meredith radiator scheme and and thinner wing, both problems of which he was fully aware in 1936.
Kudos to the Vintage Wings lads for their restorations.
Finally somebody telling it like it really was .
Waowwww😮😮😮😮
If Sydney Camm had used a thinner wing, it’s highly likely the Spitfire would not have looked so much better.
Camm made the same mistake with his next interceptor, the Typhoon, despite knowing the drawbacks of the Hurricane in 1936.
Can we have a ten hour compilation next please.
Poland had ordered some Hurricane I’s. The first from RAF stocks had the 2 bladed propeller. It was to arrive September 1, 1939 at Gydnia. What happened to it is unknown.
One aircraft, L2048, was shipped "in advance" to Poland in July 1939. Presumably that's the aircraft you mean. Further batches of Mk 1s were earmarked by Hawker for the Polish contract, but Poland had collapsed before they were completed. The RAF did not at that time see any use in aircraft with instruments in Polish, so Hawker sold them to Gloster (of Gladiator fame) who converted them, and on sold them to Finland (at that stage, at war with the USSR) in 1940. Next year, Hawker was supplying Hurricanes to the Soviet air force 😊
@@mikebenson1907 Yes, that is the one, the tail number sticks in my mind. As one that builds model kits, I made a Hurricane up in 1/72,scale to resemble it, there was good reference to the camouflage of that period and I replaced the propeller with a 2 bladed type with an appropriate spinner. As it would be a test aircraft, I painted the rudder white, this is what the Poles did on prototype aircraft, and made the assumption that the first aircraft would undergo testing.
The Poles had also ordered MS 406 aircraft from France that were supposed to be shipped through Romania but the war ended that shipment as well.
Sent to the Balkans?
@@michaelmazowiecki9195 Yugoslavia was the first foreign country to purchase Hawker Hurricanes. They bought 12 Mk I’s in 1937.
Sure y'all mentioned American pilots but conveniently forgot about Poles and Czechs (and about a Czech who considered himself a Pole). I see Brits still need to come to bear with the fact other people saved their hind quarters 😂😂😂
Here is the brilliant son of Polish migrants for you. A biography video th-cam.com/video/ghx5-FpXj2g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=olNz0IFHQoyvqGZM
As a brit I have the greatest of respect for Checz and Polish pilots, and the crucial role they played in the early years of the war.
And the Indian pilots and troops as well
Hurri cun. Approximately
Pronounced by british not “ cane”
, the spitfire has a German wing🤔
Nonsense. Do some reading on the facts instead of repeating lies from Netflix pseudo-documentaries..
Frederick Lanchester, english mathematician/engineer produce a paper on the benefits of the elliptical wing in 1907. Prandtl then cribbed that and produced his own paper in 1918 called the Lanchester-Prandtl wing theory. RJ Mitchell for his part knew all about elliptical wings and had used them since the 1920's.
You mean Leigh-Mallory’s 12 Group? That’s a bit strong.
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 stop antagonizing people with uneducated hyperbole.
Not at all. It was elliptical but not exclusively German. Also, the Spitfire's wing was designed by Canadian engineer, Beverly Shenstone. That's a man by the way. Beverly used to be a dual sex name.
It's a Hurricane not a Hurricain. Its British please pronounce it correctly.
It was the backbone of RAF Fighter Command until 1942 and rhe main fighter of British forces in Africa and Asia to 1945.
Modern russia looks exactly like fascist Germany of 1940
And Modern Canada and UK are starting to look like USSR of 1940 apart from Angela Merkel's brown boyfriends everywhere.
Good video thank you , found it very interesting 👍
The Mossie was faster, had more firepower ,much longer range and could fly higher than any hurricane or spitfire in fighter format.
Does anyone know why the British did not utilize the Mossie to go after the German bombers instead of the Hurricanes. They could have harassed the bombers all the way home and out ran the 109 fighters and F.W. back to the relative safety of England as long as their timimg was right.
They could have lost the navigator and been a lighter aircraft.
For that matter why wasnt the Mossie used to excort the heavy bombers to their target
Until The dedicated fighters for such a mission were available ? The logistics would have been decently easy. The Mossie could have set at 30,000 ft. Or higher at the coast
Waiting for the German bombers to dive on them over the channel.
Just wondering....
We get it you love the Mosquito
Mosquitos were not available in the summer of 1940. Only became operational at the end of 1941.
A personal favourite. Love it.
Thats a good comparison & they were both developed around the same time in the mid 30's.
The Hurricane was a great aircraft! The IIC varient is my favorite!
Avion de linea
It is P not B
Back ground music made to eradiating to watch!!!!!
@@beeleo I know. If people are going to complain about the music, at least they should know what they're talking about. And pick a video that actually has background music. Geez.
Eradiating that’s when get you too close while listening to an x ray machine
the Eric Brown section wrongly says that the speed of sound reduces with height, but it is the reduction in ambient temperature that is respossible . The speed of sound is variable by temperarure...look it up
Temperature drops 2degrees Celsius per 1000ft in altitude. So yeah causation