Entry-level is relative. Entry-level could be a Toyota Corolla, a Mercedes C-Class (not so much anymore due to the CLA and the other FWD crap) or a Bentley Continental GT. Only the wealthiest of car collectors would ever call a Bentley entry-level but technically the GT is just that! So entry-level is really relative. A basic 1br condo in any metropolitan area can be called entry-level but for many people (perhaps more than ever before) owning a condo at all is a pipe dream.
@@ElementsMMA A. Could be interesting B. So somebody doesn't waste time saving money for a watch they think will be high quality because of the brand's reputation just to be disappointed
Hey federico... good job man. This video hit the spot. I was actually thinking along similar lines but you managed to answer, before i could formulate the question. This is now my favorite video and i really hope in the future you consider doing a follow up on this topic.
Yeah how is my Certina with Double Security and Precidrive (even if thats a quartz), not entry level? I guess its in the same category as a 2 dollar mall watch
I have many Hamilton's.... those are great. Also have omega's, AP, Tudor's, FCs and rolex's.... Tissot's, certinas and Hamilton's are great ..... the upper echelon watches are only better because of refinement and in house movements.... Spending 1 to 2K you can still get a great high quality watch
underrated? Omega is well known and has been class for decades. Its basically the james bond watch. Rolex has been on everyone young wanna be buffet guys lips due to crypto bros and social media.
I hate those words "entry level" especially when we're talking thousands of dollars. It's a marketing term to make you feel you have a lesser model of something and to make you feel inferior if all you can afford is that product. It's also possible that the cheaper model is all you needed or wanted.
Yup, and this makes little sense to say you can get an entry level that is high end. It's not entry level then, if it's high end. And, entry to what? A grail can be of any price, if it's a grail to you. This is all just more tiresome snobbery, based on branding.
Great stuff! I’ve been toying with the idea of the Oris Diver 65 for a while now, it just seems like such a fun watch. Especially the two tone they released at Baselworld!
I really like my Oris 65, it's not going to blow you away with specs but I think it looks sexy. I think the Rolex OP 39 is next up or an Explorer 1 I facilitate a lot on this one
Great video. Really good info. My favorite brand is Lange, so it's nice to see it here, even if it is a little more expensive than the others.Sadly, it'll be awhile before I can get even an "entry level."
Wow You hit it out of the park with this vid. Each selection was spot on. I happen to have the JLC on my radar and already have the omega SPM on my wrist.
Well done monolog. I have recently found interest in watches again have have been shopping for watches.... shopping in your online shop and others. You shop is user friendly thank you
When the video first started I thought to myself one of the best entry watches that have the DNA of the more expensive lines would be the same brand you started with the JLC Master Control date but I am not a fan of the Sector dial I would rather opt for the applied markers, but I guess to save a few hundred bucks you can go with the Sector dial.
Nice video Fed. I love my electric blue wave dial seamaster, which isn't made anymore, l never thought of it as an entry level though. Bought on ebay, about 15 years ago, $1300. Dude got it as a present but wanted a big screen tv instead and sold it to me, came from tourneu.
This is a great video. None of which I disagree. Though I'd maybe mention some more like the Breguet Marine 5817, Blancpain Bathyscape 38mm, GO Senator hand date...
You will be very disapointed with Oris if you are a JLC fan. Oris is no better in quality than Tissot, Citizen or Rotary. Immensely overpriced for no apparent reason.
You actually have to fill-out an application to get the Chronometre Bleu. (I am not aware of any other FP Journe watches that require it). This is presumed to vet out the Predators and Flippers.
Other than the Oris, the other watches are NOT entry-level luxury watches....they ARE luxury watches from luxury brands....they are just not their most expensive watches. He should've titled this "More affordable luxury watch pieces."
I have that blue dial Oyster Perpetual. I love it and have worn it 24/7 ever since I bought it 18 months ago. One of the best watches I have ever bought
Lawrence Rogers hi Lawrence, is your blue dial with the green pips? If so do you wish it was without the green accents or does it add a bit of flair? ’m torn between the blue with the green pips or grey dial with light blue pips. Awesome choice btw
Johannes Finn . I was lucky as the AD had the blue dial on display as it was a cancelled order. I agree withTVMister Tero’s comments. I find the watch quite understated, which I like, and you don’t really notice the green dots but they do add to the flair of the watch. Designs are subjective so if you like the grey dial you will not be disappointed. There are videos on TH-cam to compare the two. As an owner I really like the finish and accuracy. My one gains about 6 seconds a week. It doesn’t bother me but the lume isn’t very bright which to me is the only downside of the watch.
TVMisterTero thanks for your reply. I love a blue dialled watch so I'm definitely going to have to visit my local AD and hope they have one in stock to try on. The latest OP with the black or white dials are timeless but for me I think they're a bit boring. Best - JF
Lawrence Rogers I think the blue would be my preferred choice, grey is safer perhaps like the latest white and black dialled OP's. I'm going to visit my local AD to see if they have one in stock to try on. My only dilemma is whether a 36mm or 39mm is a better fit on my 6.75' wrist. Again I need to try it on to see. Appreciate your comments and glad you love your OP. Best - JF
Well I guess I can't compete lol. I own watches from Movado, Tissot, and Tag Heur. Now, not all Movado watches are luxury - most are crap. However, the series 800 is in my book a wonderful entry-level luxury item that definitely speaks worksmanship. One brand I'm surprised you don't talk about is Longines. They aren't the best but back in the day they were classic.
What would you recommend Oris vs Longines on a enter level ? I like the Conquest diver but have looked at the Aquis as well. The Longines diver is a bit cheaper.
Very enjoyable video. Currently, I've narrowed down my next 'luxury watch' purchase (next year) down to the Zenith El Primero and the Omega Seamaster. Watching this just keeps pushing the Seamaster ahead of the EP.
Excellent content. I think your vlogging camera grabbed focus on the microphone and everything behind it (including you) is a bit soft. Or so it appears to me.
First time on your channel. Just curious, is the desk clock in the background a LeCoultre? My brother had two at some point, and they were beautiful!! One of them, he had completely refurbished. Sadly, he doesn’t have them anymore. They were true pieces of art.
Do we know if the sector date is still in production? I remember it was meant to be a one year production... But are they still making them because they've been so popular?
I am wearing my OP 41 in Green today and I think it is an excellent buy for the money. I could sell it for way more than it cost new which makes it even better lol.
Love that Seamaster 300m, especially for the price. Don’t understand how Omega thinks they can charge more for the Aqua terra though, considering the 38mm and 34mm have the same movement and are much simpler.
Maybe the target market for the Aqua Terra is of people who would spend more money. It is a more balanced watch that serves more the same purpose as the Yacht Master. A casual watch for people who own boats that do not actually dive or those who want to appear that way which translates to wanting to appear you have money.
Hi love your videos,i honestly love watches and before i spend almost all money into watches i bought Rado,Tissots,Seikos,Mido,Zodiac,Omegas,Tag Heur,Rolexes,Cartier,Chopard,Hamilton,Zenith,Longines and Oris,recently i saw a Vintage Pattek for a good price,so i would love to go into Vintage Watches,somme how they are more elegant they are not over 40 mm and if you put sapphire cristal and you do a maintenance they are just spectacular,sommehow they have more soul what do you think about vintage watches???
Great video! Thanks for sharing your experience and insight. It's nice to see someone with confidence in their opinions, rather than parroting the worship of two or three specific models (let alone brands).
I dislike Rolex but respect the 39mm Oyster Perpetual. It has an unpretentious design that will always look handsome, and the price isn't overly inflated by Rolex standard. And the blue dial looks awesome.
Speaking of my seamaster, like l said, I've had it since 2005 and I've never had it serviced, because it's never not worked properly. My question is, if it runs good and never been opened, should l go ahead and get it serviced?
Hi Federico, nice show I really enjoy it. I have a question for you. What do you think of these brands and watches: Maurice lacroix model (Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Cinq Aiguilles 40mm 18k Rose Gold), Arnold & Son (Arnold & Son HMS1 40MM Rose Gold Royal) and Vacheron Constantine (patrimony) and finally, Parnigiani (Fleurier Tonda). Do you think hey worth their value?
When you said 'entry level' I wasn't expecting a $12,000 Lange und Söhne, although that is technically correct of course.
It's a big deal as this is not true of Lange's competitors
Entry level doesnt mean cheap its just the lowest price point at which you can get into a brand.
Entry-level is relative. Entry-level could be a Toyota Corolla, a Mercedes C-Class (not so much anymore due to the CLA and the other FWD crap) or a Bentley Continental GT.
Only the wealthiest of car collectors would ever call a Bentley entry-level but technically the GT is just that! So entry-level is really relative.
A basic 1br condo in any metropolitan area can be called entry-level but for many people (perhaps more than ever before) owning a condo at all is a pipe dream.
i was thinking the same..gosh, if i want to buy that watch i should probably sell my cow
Well, you might sell a Rolex to get an A. Lange & Söhne! 😍(You'd even improve in quality of your watch!) 🤔
You should definitely do the inverse of this video with the worst-quality entry level pieces from high end brands
TheSquid Jones There we go.
Iwc was the first brand to come to mind. Sellita movement on a $4000 watch.
Why would anyone want to watch that?
@@ElementsMMA A. Could be interesting B. So somebody doesn't waste time saving money for a watch they think will be high quality because of the brand's reputation just to be disappointed
@@Dave-31it3 Never heard anyone referring to MVMT as a high-end brand
Hey federico... good job man. This video hit the spot. I was actually thinking along similar lines but you managed to answer, before i could formulate the question. This is now my favorite video and i really hope in the future you consider doing a follow up on this topic.
Sitting here, staring at my Tissot's, Certinas, my Hamilton... Can't wait to get to entry level..
Yeah how is my Certina with Double Security and Precidrive (even if thats a quartz), not entry level? I guess its in the same category as a 2 dollar mall watch
Entry level for very wealthy people I suppose. Tissot and Hamilton are some of my favorite go to brands. The best bang for the buck in my opinion.
Those are great watches
I have many Hamilton's.... those are great. Also have omega's, AP, Tudor's, FCs and rolex's.... Tissot's, certinas and Hamilton's are great ..... the upper echelon watches are only better because of refinement and in house movements.... Spending 1 to 2K you can still get a great high quality watch
@@joelf5565 gotta agree with you. I’d rather have two Tissots that are half the price of a breitling.
This was a great topic. Your suggestion on review quality micro brands is a great idea also.
Fantastic video! A great idea to cover a topic like this and executed perfectly as always!
Great topic to discuss and knowledge shared. Thanks alot for your effort !
The quality and tech of Omega are extremely underrated.
Maybe for people who doesn’t know anything about watches. But certainly not under watch ethusiats.
underrated? Omega is well known and has been class for decades. Its basically the james bond watch. Rolex has been on everyone young wanna be buffet guys lips due to crypto bros and social media.
I hate those words "entry level" especially when we're talking thousands of dollars. It's a marketing term to make you feel you have a lesser model of something and to make you feel inferior if all you can afford is that product. It's also possible that the cheaper model is all you needed or wanted.
So true, I hadn’t thought about it that way
well, all you need is a $100 casio or $50 Lorus.
@@CFox.7 I’d take a $60 seiko over most watches honestly
@@2gunzfilms425 Yeah, i got the Seiko owned Lorus
Yup, and this makes little sense to say you can get an entry level that is high end. It's not entry level then, if it's high end. And, entry to what? A grail can be of any price, if it's a grail to you. This is all just more tiresome snobbery, based on branding.
This is your best vid, Fed, and that’s saying something!
Great info 👍🏽
Subscribed
I couldn't agree more about the Omega. Super value. Definitely on my list.
I agree. I just got the Omega Seamaster diver with the white dial and it’s beautiful!
Thank You Frederico you make a lot of sence. All those watches are really cool. Arturo
Awesome stuff!
Cool video idea Fed, really enjoyed
I have that same Seiko desk clock. Totally sweet Goodwill find!
Great stuff!
I’ve been toying with the idea of the Oris Diver 65 for a while now, it just seems like such a fun watch. Especially the two tone they released at Baselworld!
Great piece for the money.
I just found your channel and I love it great job.
I really like my Oris 65, it's not going to blow you away with specs but I think it looks sexy. I think the Rolex OP 39 is next up or an Explorer 1 I facilitate a lot on this one
Great episode. Thanks
Great video Fed !
Nice review👍
Great vid fed!!
Great video. Really good info. My favorite brand is Lange, so it's nice to see it here, even if it is a little more expensive than the others.Sadly, it'll be awhile before I can get even an "entry level."
Excellent info
Wow You hit it out of the park with this vid. Each selection was spot on. I happen to have the JLC on my radar and already have the omega SPM on my wrist.
Glad you enjoyed it Robert!
Well done monolog. I have recently found interest in watches again have have been shopping for watches.... shopping in your online shop and others. You shop is user friendly thank you
What a fantastic video. Thank you!
Love it great video
When the video first started I thought to myself one of the best entry watches that have the DNA of the more expensive lines would be the same brand you started with the JLC Master Control date but I am not a fan of the Sector dial I would rather opt for the applied markers, but I guess to save a few hundred bucks you can go with the Sector dial.
Excellent choices Fed. The JLC takes it for me, perhaps just about attainable but the Lange is still way too much.
Nice topic and video. How about the Patek Philippe Calatrava? Would that be comparable to the A Lange & Sohne Saxonia?
Nice video Fed. I love my electric blue wave dial seamaster, which isn't made anymore, l never thought of it as an entry level though. Bought on ebay, about 15 years ago, $1300. Dude got it as a present but wanted a big screen tv instead and sold it to me, came from tourneu.
This video inspired me so much
I would vote for the Rolex. I love the bracelet and the dial, but I would look for a silver dial. Thank you for posting, Federico.
Great video ! What kind of watch do you have on ? It looks nice
This is a great video. None of which I disagree. Though I'd maybe mention some more like the Breguet Marine 5817, Blancpain Bathyscape 38mm, GO Senator hand date...
Great video Fed, would love the JLC and I think the Oris will be a next purchase for us!
You will be very disapointed with Oris if you are a JLC fan. Oris is no better in quality than Tissot, Citizen or Rotary. Immensely overpriced for no apparent reason.
Managed do you think of Mathey Tissot?
Hey Fed, what do you feel about the Polaris as opposed to the Master? Similar price point, and definitely sportier. Debating on a JLC.
Good video...thank you
Excellent, Excellent Vid! Your horological knowledge just gets better and better.
You actually have to fill-out an application to get the Chronometre Bleu. (I am not aware of any other FP Journe watches that require it). This is presumed to vet out the Predators and Flippers.
Enjoy your videos. Thanks.
JLC is perfect for someone who only wears a dress watch occasionally and sport watches the rest of the time. Great picks.
It isn't pronounced Yeager though. Is Zjay-zjay.
Other than the Oris, the other watches are NOT entry-level luxury watches....they ARE luxury watches from luxury brands....they are just not their most expensive watches. He should've titled this "More affordable luxury watch pieces."
You're absolutely right
I have that blue dial Oyster Perpetual. I love it and have worn it 24/7 ever since I bought it 18 months ago. One of the best watches I have ever bought
Lawrence Rogers hi Lawrence, is your blue dial with the green pips? If so do you wish it was without the green accents or does it add a bit of flair? ’m torn between the blue with the green pips or grey dial with light blue pips. Awesome choice btw
Johannes Finn . I was lucky as the AD had the blue dial on display as it was a cancelled order. I agree withTVMister Tero’s comments. I find the watch quite understated, which I like, and you don’t really notice the green dots but they do add to the flair of the watch. Designs are subjective so if you like the grey dial you will not be disappointed. There are videos on TH-cam to compare the two. As an owner I really like the finish and accuracy. My one gains about 6 seconds a week. It doesn’t bother me but the lume isn’t very bright which to me is the only downside of the watch.
TVMisterTero thanks for your reply. I love a blue dialled watch so I'm definitely going to have to visit my local AD and hope they have one in stock to try on. The latest OP with the black or white dials are timeless but for me I think they're a bit boring. Best - JF
Lawrence Rogers I think the blue would be my preferred choice, grey is safer perhaps like the latest white and black dialled OP's. I'm going to visit my local AD to see if they have one in stock to try on. My only dilemma is whether a 36mm or 39mm is a better fit on my 6.75' wrist. Again I need to try it on to see. Appreciate your comments and glad you love your OP. Best - JF
Lawrence No doubt!
says "entry level", counts up a watch that has a movement literally made out of gold
@@TomASwift yes... this is what i expected... i came for plastic and found gold
@@IKucheINtortIE buy a vostok :D
@@polyglycerol3968 bought a seiko and a seagull... both have value beyond their pricetag
@@IKucheINtortIE i recently bought a seiko 5 and a 1963, great stuff
Well I guess I can't compete lol. I own watches from Movado, Tissot, and Tag Heur. Now, not all Movado watches are luxury - most are crap. However, the series 800 is in my book a wonderful entry-level luxury item that definitely speaks worksmanship. One brand I'm surprised you don't talk about is Longines. They aren't the best but back in the day they were classic.
What would you recommend Oris vs Longines on a enter level ? I like the Conquest diver but have looked at the Aquis as well. The Longines diver is a bit cheaper.
Fed!! That was a great vid, maybe my favorite!
This is the kind of topic that fits your channel well.
Keep up the good work!
Very enjoyable video. Currently, I've narrowed down my next 'luxury watch' purchase (next year) down to the Zenith El Primero and the Omega Seamaster. Watching this just keeps pushing the Seamaster ahead of the EP.
Dion Dixon The El Primero would be a nice acquisition.
And don't forget the horological significance of the El Primero. First automatic chronograph.
Federico and how about the Longines legend diver?
Excellent content. I think your vlogging camera grabbed focus on the microphone and everything behind it (including you) is a bit soft. Or so it appears to me.
Federico
Thank you for all the great videos .
Would it be the same for men's and women's entry level. Looking for a grad present in May or June?
I seem to like the older videos more than the new ones. Don't know why. Really interesting to listen to you regarding the Lange. Thanks.
First time on your channel. Just curious, is the desk clock in the background a LeCoultre? My brother had two at some point, and they were beautiful!! One of them, he had completely refurbished. Sadly, he doesn’t have them anymore. They were true pieces of art.
Love my JLC master control date. Glad it made the list. I have a blue shell cordovan strap and it takes the watch to a whole new dimension.
Do we know if the sector date is still in production? I remember it was meant to be a one year production... But are they still making them because they've been so popular?
Gorgeous beautiful watches mate.
What's your take on the breitling avenger ii chrono?
I just got myself an Omega Aqua Terra, but I'll tell ya, the entry level Rolex models (even a used Yachtmaster) were in the running.
Ouch lol
34mm Aqua Terra is stunning IMO.
Great job with the reviews. One question between Maurice Lacroix or Oris, which one would yo go for ?
Just recently started watching you. Enjoy your chats. What do you think about “Tufina” brand watches?
I am wearing my OP 41 in Green today and I think it is an excellent buy for the money. I could sell it for way more than it cost new which makes it even better lol.
Hey Fed, what do you think about the Tudor north flag?
What’s up with the Rolex wall clock? Doesn’t appear to be working.
great video .... ❤️
how about a Breguet "7147 vs 5177" in exact same spec white gold white dial? which would you prefer and why?
Sorry if this hasn’t already been asked but could you please show a close-up whenever you do the customary watch check? Thanks!
I love your content
Oris 65 is killer choice.
Everytime i watch your videos i know why i subscribed
I surprise you didn’t mention Ball watches and Armand Nicolet by far in my opinion is as good as omega ... build well and quality wise ..!!
Ace vid 👍🏼
Would the Vacheron Constantin fiftysix fall into this category? Seems like it could give the Saxonia a run for it's money!
Man that Hulk looks great! What size is your wrist?
Is it just the OP 39 or does the same apply to the smaller ones, such as the 34? I actually really like the watch. How do you feel about the Milgauss?
Great video! One of the best on the channel. Thanks for your suggestions! For Omega I thought you would have mentioned the Deville line.
Love that Seamaster 300m, especially for the price. Don’t understand how Omega thinks they can charge more for the Aqua terra though, considering the 38mm and 34mm have the same movement and are much simpler.
Maybe the target market for the Aqua Terra is of people who would spend more money. It is a more balanced watch that serves more the same purpose as the Yacht Master. A casual watch for people who own boats that do not actually dive or those who want to appear that way which translates to wanting to appear you have money.
Was wondering when you were going to mention the Saxonia.
What about Tudor ? Specifically the BlackBay line where does it stand ?
Hey Federico, could you send a finger skate trick for the
next video? Cheers
Fed,
How could you mention the entry level F.P. Journe and not say a word about the Vostok Amphibia? 😂
Hi love your videos,i honestly love watches and before i spend almost all money into watches i bought Rado,Tissots,Seikos,Mido,Zodiac,Omegas,Tag Heur,Rolexes,Cartier,Chopard,Hamilton,Zenith,Longines and Oris,recently i saw a Vintage Pattek for a good price,so i would love to go into Vintage Watches,somme how they are more elegant they are not over 40 mm and if you put sapphire cristal and you do a maintenance they are just spectacular,sommehow they have more soul what do you think about vintage watches???
Consider looking at Sea-gull, the quality of the finishing and their value for money makes them difficult to ignore...
omar10213245 CCP watch, therefore no go for me.
Just wondering why you have never reviewed Revue Thommen, will you be doing that soon? Your thoughts on the brand? Seems high quality. Thanks.
When I saw the video, the only thing I thought was A. Lange Saxonia
What a great video
I really love Oris.
I own two, William F1 and TT1 Diver.
Cant decide which one I like more. Guess I'll keep both?
Great video! Thanks for sharing your experience and insight. It's nice to see someone with confidence in their opinions, rather than parroting the worship of two or three specific models (let alone brands).
We always tend to forget that to 99,99% of the population around 300$ for "Just" a watch is already an over the top luxury price.
I dislike Rolex but respect the 39mm Oyster Perpetual. It has an unpretentious design that will always look handsome, and the price isn't overly inflated by Rolex standard. And the blue dial looks awesome.
I’m sticking with my Timex. Haha...
I really like the hulk. Do you think it looks good with the original bracelet in the summer?
14060 or the 114060. 👍⌚ Damn I wish that I would have stocked up in the 90s. Crazy.
HInd sight...
thats what I wear :)
Speaking of my seamaster, like l said, I've had it since 2005 and I've never had it serviced, because it's never not worked properly. My question is, if it runs good and never been opened, should l go ahead and get it serviced?
Harold Sawyer Jr if you’re car runs fine should you keep on driving it?
Hi Fed, what do you think of the entry level watches from Grand Seiko ?
He's not a fan of grand seiko
Grand Seiko is not entry level. Its even higher than Rolex.
I know that they're high end but I wasn't sure how the quality of their under $5K watches compares to their more expensive watches.
Hi Federico, nice show I really enjoy it. I have a question for you. What do you think of these brands and watches: Maurice lacroix model (Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Cinq Aiguilles 40mm 18k Rose Gold), Arnold & Son (Arnold & Son HMS1 40MM Rose Gold Royal) and Vacheron Constantine (patrimony) and finally, Parnigiani (Fleurier Tonda). Do you think hey worth their value?
Breitling Avenger 2 GMT no question
The Rolex OP 36mm white dial is the perfect watch in my opinion.
Its a handsome watch.
I agree
Luciole Dizerot 39 is much better
@@miguelg1370 It depends on the owner.