As a regular viewer, I am so impressed with your use of 'true' and of measurement. Then you make sure that this true part is safe to touch by the end user. The devil is in the details, and you make sure the details are completed on each part. Very impressive and 'Made in America". Thanks
Hi Keith is there anything you can't make or repair! Thanks for taking the time to make and post these videos. They give people like me loads of encouragement to do jobs that normally we might not consider. Keep up the good work George Pinder
Hi Keith. Just want to say a huge thank you for your videography of this job in particular, its one of just some where I have really been able to ‘think myself’ as if I was actually part of the brilliant chap, (you of course), actually making the decisions and moving the handles trying to end up with with as near as damn-it, the same item I was trying to duplicate and, hands together for the original makers, whom seem to me, ‘at least’ for what that’s worth, fashioned it ‘by hand’ with almost zero automatic ‘shortcuts’, into something that was relatively large, awkward to handle, and could in my mind be compared with a propeller which must be more or less perfect before it was balanced. Forgive the lengthy sentence, just the way it come about. I love to watch you take on a Project, where, especially for those non-engineers like myself, seems almost impossible. Actually, and before you started to fashion it and before I had noticed just how much damage was done to the original, I thought you had been asked to make just one blade! Thank you for your videography allowing me to watch your skill. Take care, mrbluenun
All pro machinists that I've corresponding dedicated with tell me 1018 is horrible to machine. IME, as a hobby hack, I too find it this way. Gummy and difficult to get a good finish on especially using hss. Keith is just too good :). He makes things look way easier than they are. His experience and knowledge overcome the difficulty most people experience. A true master of the craft. Sorry, should have said craftS.
Interesting to see the end result after cutting away all the scrap! Some nice looking bronze prop shaft supports on the floor right of the K&T in the background too.
Now, Now Mr Fenner you should always return your tools to their correct location after being used or at the end of the day then you wouldn't have to hunt them down. Ooh and Keep those quality videos coming, I am always awaiting your next instalment.
Unfortunately Mr Fenner's workshop happens to be inhabited by a tribe of mischievous Gremlins who take great delight in picking up his favourite tools or instruments and running them to somewhere else in the workshop. These Gremlins are not the Spielberg kind, but rather the ones like Bugs Bunny had to deal with in WW II.
Hi Mark Fryer: I have the very same type of Gremlins in my shop too. But there is a little trick that normally help: I whistle and immediately they bring back the stolen tools. They can’t bear the sound of my whistles.
Hi Keith, great video again, I have been watching you work on your Rutland lathe as I have one almost identical, except it is marketed under a different name. The only difference I can see is the position of the Stop Start and Emergency buttons.Mine are on the gearbox just above the quick change levers. Yes I had the same leaky bolts you had.
lol @ the belt, I love it when the belt comes out. :) You do awesome work Keith, thanks for sharing all these great videos. You and Adam are on my zombie apocalypse team, for sure!
Why me wait? YOU MAKE VIDEO NOW!! (North Korea).......I enjoy playing Keith Fenner at work...LOL I also enjoy being the problem solver and not the problem. Great videos Keith. Thank You!!
love you jobs sir you and adom booth videos are real school for us young machinests... but cutting that junk of steel that fat without coolant it really felt wierd for the new blade
That 2" drill bit is a beast! I honestly thought it might be too large for the lathe because the sound changed. Do you know how big a hole that drill actually makes?
Have you got any use for some titanium cut offs that are about the size of what you're drilling in the beggining of this video? My local scrap yard has a bunch of them from 2'' on up to 8'' diameter, but most are only about 6'' long. They sell titanium scrap for $2 a pound, IDK if that's a good price though. If it's good for any thing please let me know.
I was thinking about making a snarky comment down here about you being the 4 jaw champion at like 29:30, then I laughed my ass off 30 seconds later. Nice :)
Keith - I guess its too late now, but you could have left some 'pegs' on the leading edges of each star, then cut corresponding holes in the paddles to use as alignment pins.
Frankford arsenal huh, I can't say I have had any good luck with anything they make, but I am curious do you do reloading too or just a caliper you picked up? Since I'm in Nebraska I'm a Hornady guy for presses and equipment.
The steel chips go in the dumpster and get sorted at transfer station, all other chips get collected and taken to recycle plant personally, once or twice a year. Waiting for stocks to go up to make price better now. ;{)-------
As a newbie I wonder what you meant when you said your insert was "rolling an edge" could you enlighten me? I've already learned in my first semester at trade school knowing what to look for can save me a lot of trouble.
I don't get the belt? Was that congratulatory on an awesome machining move, or to hide a mistake. Sorry, I'm not a machinist. Love all your vids... btw
Well... The evil wizard Bozo made a cursed chuck wrench for the enchanted warrior to use on the clash of summer. The outcome is too gruesome to describe....
No criticism intended here ... just proposing another method. How about facing the hub to the desired width then boring to fit the taper-loc. Mount the "hub" on a shaft and do all the outside turning in one set up.
I see you cut yourself on that blank between 33.00 to 34.00 minutes on the video. I bet you thought no one would notice. On a 21 inch LCD screen at Full Screen you notice things like that. Those sharp edges will get you every time. ouch! :-)
Well I'll give you this much. You don't mess around when it comes time to hog something out. I've seen countless other machinists stagger their drill bits a lot more gradually. As for your boring bar you mention the insert you used. I wonder, what do you think of Iscar inserts? A friend of mine swears by them and I'll admit I like them too. In your opinion are they really that much better than the rest?
does anyone make a vfd that can be set to give constant linear speed on facing cuts? I know modern CNC machines can do it automatically, but it would be cool to be able to retrofit
That requires a feedback loop, like a dro, which tells the controller where the cut is. You need more than just a controller, unless it can read one's mind.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing. In one of This Old Tony's recent videos he talked about varying surface finishes on facing cuts because of the change in effective SFM due to changing effective diameter as the cut progresses. When I saw the same varying finish on the face of that slug in Keith's lathe the idea of increasing spindle speed in proportion to the effective diameter and CNC crossed my mind too. I agree with +Gkuljian that some sort of feedback would be best so that the spindle speed change would be automatic, even when hand feeding. Doing it manually by setting a ramp range and rate and hitting a button to start it would be a hassle and error-prone. Still, a simple DRO for the cross slide could be made with a cheap set of digital calipers if you could find an output to tap into and use as a control voltage for a VFD. Heck, you could probably rig up a multi-turn potentiometer driven with a friction wheel if push came to shove. It doesn't have to be super-accurate.
I think that coupling with the Z axis readout could make a control of a VFD possible, but it would need to be zeroed properly and a maximum speed set. It requires a good amount of electronics to make it work.
If you had cut the star pieces in sections as per the sample you would have maximised the efficient use of your stock material and not been left with a very expensive stencil of a giant star!
blipco5 Keith won the belt in competition last summer for dialing in a 4 jaw with best speed and accuracy. Just sayin is a fun jab at the two machinists that setup the contest to figure which of them was best and neither won.
+Ian Levine OK, got it. I just happened on this channel. I'm not a machinist but I grew up with a (3 jaw chick) lathe in the cellar and I'm no dunce with a tool but when I saw this guy adjusting the chuck I thought, this guy knows what he's doing. Enjoyable to watch.
As a regular viewer, I am so impressed with your use of 'true' and of measurement. Then you make sure that this true part is safe to touch by the end user. The devil is in the details, and you make sure the details are completed on each part. Very impressive and 'Made in America". Thanks
Chuck is working flawlessly, as the other gentleman says below you really know your lathe. Skills of a lifetime - priceless.
Hi Keith is there anything you can't make or repair! Thanks for taking the time to make and post these videos. They give people like me loads of encouragement to do jobs that normally we might not consider. Keep up the good work
George Pinder
Great work Keith , Thumbs up man , That new chuck is working very well !
Hi Keith.
Just want to say a huge thank you for your videography of this job in particular, its one of just some where I have really been able to ‘think myself’ as if I was actually part of the brilliant chap, (you of course), actually making the decisions and moving the handles trying to end up with with as near as damn-it, the same item I was trying to duplicate and, hands together for the original makers, whom seem to me, ‘at least’ for what that’s worth, fashioned it ‘by hand’ with almost zero automatic ‘shortcuts’, into something that was relatively large, awkward to handle, and could in my mind be compared with a propeller which must be more or less perfect before it was balanced. Forgive the lengthy sentence, just the way it come about.
I love to watch you take on a Project, where, especially for those non-engineers like myself, seems almost impossible. Actually, and before you started to fashion it and before I had noticed just how much damage was done to the original, I thought you had been asked to make just one blade!
Thank you for your videography allowing me to watch your skill.
Take care,
mrbluenun
Nice little chunk of steel whittling.
Hi,
Why could I not have said what you were thinking in as few words?
Man, that two inch bit is some serious shit.
Really like your channel.
I've learned a lot.
Thanks
Eric
central Florida
That puck of metal seemed like such a nice machining medium. I really need to restock my collection.
Great video!
All pro machinists that I've corresponding dedicated with tell me 1018 is horrible to machine. IME, as a hobby hack, I too find it this way. Gummy and difficult to get a good finish on especially using hss. Keith is just too good :). He makes things look way easier than they are. His experience and knowledge overcome the difficulty most people experience. A true master of the craft. Sorry, should have said craftS.
Interesting to see the end result after cutting away all the scrap! Some nice looking bronze prop shaft supports on the floor right of the K&T in the background too.
Great video, you know you're lathe, I really enjoy watching it 👍😊
I loved the part with the 2 inch drill :-)
So damn satisfying to watch!! Great vids Keith. Keep em coming!
Such awesome skills and tools!!
At last something good to watch at 4:30 in the morning.
YOU BETCHER LIFESAVERS!!
Great stuff Keith, Keep 'em coming
Now, Now Mr Fenner you should always return your tools to their correct location after being used or at the end of the day then you wouldn't have to hunt them down.
Ooh and Keep those quality videos coming, I am always awaiting your next instalment.
Unfortunately Mr Fenner's workshop happens to be inhabited by a tribe of mischievous Gremlins who take great delight in picking up his favourite tools or instruments and running them to somewhere else in the workshop. These Gremlins are not the Spielberg kind, but rather the ones like Bugs Bunny had to deal with in WW II.
Hi Mark Fryer: I have the very same type of Gremlins in my shop too. But there is a little trick that normally help: I whistle and immediately they bring back the stolen tools. They can’t bear the sound of my whistles.
Hi Keith, great video again, I have been watching you work on your Rutland lathe as I have one almost identical, except it is marketed under a different name. The only difference I can see is the position of the Stop Start and Emergency buttons.Mine are on the gearbox just above the quick change levers. Yes I had the same leaky bolts you had.
lol @ the belt, I love it when the belt comes out. :) You do awesome work Keith, thanks for sharing all these great videos. You and Adam are on my zombie apocalypse team, for sure!
Thank you for another interesting, informative and educational video Keith. :)
Great channel! learning a ton from your videos. thanks
That new 4 jaw really likes getting a workout. It's great!!!
I like the star shape formed by the oil (at around 3:15) - almost perfectly radially symmetric! :)
Yeah that was pretty neat and that 2 inch bit wasnt so bad either just after that.That thing was a straight hog LOL
I may have been called away (by the boss) so in case I didn't comment before, great job and thanks, Greg.
Keith thanks for your videos and never take the girl on the tennis court poster down. It takes me back to a better time.
You havn't lost your touch Champ !
Why me wait? YOU MAKE VIDEO NOW!! (North Korea).......I enjoy playing Keith Fenner at work...LOL I also enjoy being the problem solver and not the problem. Great videos Keith. Thank You!!
Thanks for sharing Keith...
Hi Keith, Great video as always, Stay safe
I am usually confused as to what you are doing or how you are doing it at first and then it all comes together. Thank you.
26:00 That's how you win a four jaw competition, right there.
Rolling an edge cause 1018 and feed/speed set slightly wrong. Nice Shop you got!!
love you jobs sir you and adom booth videos are real school for us young machinests... but cutting that junk of steel that fat without coolant it really felt wierd for the new blade
I like how the wrench you modified to keep the whiners happy has now become your hand-rest.
That 2" drill bit is a beast! I honestly thought it might be too large for the lathe because the sound changed. Do you know how big a hole that drill actually makes?
I didn't snap gage it after, because I was going way over that size. ;{)-------
Have you got any use for some titanium cut offs that are about the size of what you're drilling in the beggining of this video? My local scrap yard has a bunch of them from 2'' on up to 8'' diameter, but most are only about 6'' long. They sell titanium scrap for $2 a pound, IDK if that's a good price though. If it's good for any thing please let me know.
keith nice belt too cool.
Bloody marvellous. Wheres the next one, getter done will ya. Hahaha.
GREAT VIDEO !
RUB IT IN !! LOVE IT !!
I was thinking about making a snarky comment down here about you being the 4 jaw champion at like 29:30, then I laughed my ass off 30 seconds later. Nice :)
Long Live the King!!!
Keith - I guess its too late now, but you could have left some 'pegs' on the leading edges of each star, then cut corresponding holes in the paddles to use as alignment pins.
Thank you for the education
all bow for the king ;)
Keith, How does the brake work on your lathe? Could you give us a brief glimpse of it sometime?
Thanks,
Jay
Cool video
I love. that lathe of yours, onequestion: is the cross slide screw reads in diameter? thanks Old Bob
No it is an actual dia. reads the depth of cut. ;{)-------
Noticed the lathe has a new squeak noise when you start it, sometimes. Belt slipping a whisker?
They are old and oil soaked, changing out next summer. ;{)-------
What are those hoses attached to the cross-slide, something for lube or coolant?
Those're some nice smooth parts!
Hydraulic lines to control the tracer. ;{)-------
Ah, thanks!
i c that your lathe has 2 different tool posts???
@ 30:05>. It ain't bragging if you can back it up.
Just saying :) LOL Master Keith does it again :)
I like the way the belt just showed up,as if to to say yah I used an idicator but not because I needed it
That should be the next challenge: Dialing in a part in a 4-jaw *without* using an indicator to see who can get closest to no runout!
Cool stuff
Senhor Fenner aprendi muito com seus videos obrigado pelas lições sou brasileiro de São Paulo e voçe?.
Just Sayin'. 😊 You da man!!!
Good stuff. You won't be giving up that belt any time soon. Just saying.
Frankford arsenal huh, I can't say I have had any good luck with anything they make, but I am curious do you do reloading too or just a caliper you picked up? Since I'm in Nebraska I'm a Hornady guy for presses and equipment.
The calipers are near destruction proof and the only thing I use from them, most of the time under $25, turned onto by a gun maker friend. ;{)------
The King is in his castle long live the King, ... just saying too funny
How to do dispose of all those chips ? Do you compact them ?
The steel chips go in the dumpster and get sorted at transfer station, all other chips get collected and taken to recycle plant personally, once or twice a year. Waiting for stocks to go up to make price better now. ;{)-------
As a newbie I wonder what you meant when you said your insert was "rolling an edge" could you enlighten me? I've already learned in my first semester at trade school knowing what to look for can save me a lot of trouble.
I don't get the belt? Was that congratulatory on an awesome machining move, or to hide a mistake. Sorry, I'm not a machinist. Love all your vids... btw
Well... The evil wizard Bozo made a cursed chuck wrench for the enchanted warrior to use on the clash of summer. The outcome is too gruesome to describe....
That's as clear as mud but it covers the ground.
Regarding the runout on your chuck face. Could you remove the jaws and face it totally true?
its hard to see the chip formation from this angle
i have a Lufkin Depth mic set and inside mic set, i like them to Keith !!
HAHA wait till Abom Gets a squiz at this haha
Now That was funny! ............Just Sayin' Lol!
Think abom gave you a thumbs down! Just sayin...
J K-crna Adam knows this is all in fun. Besides, I routed for Adam during the event, and defended him afterwards. Just Sayin'
You sure you weren't channeling a little inner Abom79 there?
Did Tom Lipton ever offer to make you a new chuck key? ;-)
whats the spindle bore on that monster?
No criticism intended here ... just proposing another method. How about facing the hub to the desired width then boring to fit the taper-loc. Mount the "hub" on a shaft and do all the outside turning in one set up.
no shaft
keith, thank you
Why is the 2-inch rotating?
The bore in my tailstock is less than perfect, another replacing video, maybe next year. ;{)------
Thanks for the reply and all your great content!!!
Happy new year!!!
Spindle speed looks a bit high for a 2 inch drill...
"Just Saying"...indeed! :-)
I see you cut yourself on that blank between 33.00 to 34.00 minutes on the video. I bet you thought no one would notice. On a 21 inch LCD screen at Full Screen you notice things like that. Those sharp edges will get you every time. ouch! :-)
Well I'll give you this much. You don't mess around when it comes time to hog something out. I've seen countless other machinists stagger their drill bits a lot more gradually. As for your boring bar you mention the insert you used. I wonder, what do you think of Iscar inserts? A friend of mine swears by them and I'll admit I like them too. In your opinion are they really that much better than the rest?
I would love to own one of those long twisted chips from that beastly Two inch drill head bit. would you consider selling or sending me one please ?
30:06 the champ lolz
At 26:30. If you dont want to wear the belt for some reason, make a t-shirt with a Picture of the belt at least.
30:07 NICE
does anyone make a vfd that can be set to give constant linear speed on facing cuts? I know modern CNC machines can do it automatically, but it would be cool to be able to retrofit
That requires a feedback loop, like a dro, which tells the controller where the cut is. You need more than just a controller, unless it can read one's mind.
With powered feed you would just need to have a ramp you can start with a button press, start the cut, start the speed ramping up
Funny, I was thinking the same thing. In one of This Old Tony's recent videos he talked about varying surface finishes on facing cuts because of the change in effective SFM due to changing effective diameter as the cut progresses. When I saw the same varying finish on the face of that slug in Keith's lathe the idea of increasing spindle speed in proportion to the effective diameter and CNC crossed my mind too.
I agree with +Gkuljian that some sort of feedback would be best so that the spindle speed change would be automatic, even when hand feeding. Doing it manually by setting a ramp range and rate and hitting a button to start it would be a hassle and error-prone.
Still, a simple DRO for the cross slide could be made with a cheap set of digital calipers if you could find an output to tap into and use as a control voltage for a VFD. Heck, you could probably rig up a multi-turn potentiometer driven with a friction wheel if push came to shove. It doesn't have to be super-accurate.
ArtemiaSalina Hass has TH-cam videos all about various speed control modes to do everything from chatter reduction to constant linear speed,
I think that coupling with the Z axis readout could make a control of a VFD possible, but it would need to be zeroed properly and a maximum speed set. It requires a good amount of electronics to make it work.
If you had cut the star pieces in sections as per the sample you would have maximised the efficient use of your stock material and not been left with a very expensive stencil of a giant star!
Sorry I forgot to mention that I live in Australia
Just befor 9:00 u can see some sparks :D
Maybe there is a reason he is 4 jaw champ. "Just sayin"
If I was you I wouldn't bother to get that 3-jaw fixed
Three jaw chucks have specific uses such as holding shapes that have side counts divisible by 3 such as triangular and hex shapes.
I might be to much of a nerd here but did anyone else notice the nova core symbol created by the cutting fluid
7 dislikes??? huh what??
What was the 'just saying' thing? Help a noob out.
blipco5 Keith won the belt in competition last summer for dialing in a 4 jaw with best speed and accuracy. Just sayin is a fun jab at the two machinists that setup the contest to figure which of them was best and neither won.
+Ian Levine
OK, got it. I just happened on this channel. I'm not a machinist but I grew up with a (3 jaw chick) lathe in the cellar and I'm no dunce with a tool but when I saw this guy adjusting the chuck I thought, this guy knows what he's doing. Enjoyable to watch.
+blipco5
I meant to say 3 jaw CHUCK.
Keith, are you jetting tired of You Tube? 41 minutes of the same shot? Not you regular style. Get the foot fixed and get back in the groove.
😂