Here's some important information: in my playthrough, I came to the university when my boss progress was 9, so by the time I'm by the tower my boss progress was 10. I managed to prevent everyone from dying with simply not resting at a bonfire. Resting at a bonfire activates scripts causing death of everyone, so I just went through the tower without using bonfires and killed jubjub. After that I safely rested and nothing bad happened. So if you reached the boss limit - just don't use bonfires
Fighting Jack The Ripper was super sad while wearing Edith’s ring. Especially after seeing the film about them in Queensland. Poor Edith always getting the short end of the stick.
I think that's the snake god curse. It only triggers if you kill certain heroines, it happened immediately to me when I killed the serpent god at least. There's a thing you can interract with in the gallery to stop it from happening.
Hatter, Dormouse, and Haigha got me cracking up, it's not easy to do that with just dialogue. Seems like it would be nice to sleep with Dormouse. As in take a refreshing, 3-hour afternoon nap with her. (Nohorny) Washboard flatty-patty love
damb sad to see this got de-montized though I'm happy you're still uploading BS2 sir keep up the good work. Interesting twist with Jack. Odd to see how all the stories are still twisted and amalgamated when merry Sue isn't running things I wonder if it's the nature of outer gods to twist the world like this.
@@A-xperiments congrats on saving your wifu's you know what this calls for..... a heram. XD that said the idea of Jub Jub being this harsh of a kill timer on everybody is sort of insane it's a spin on a mechanic in the souls series but the souls games ware never this harsh about it as even when someone starts killing your allies YOU needed to do something to enable the killing spree to start but hare the Mad bird is watching and waiting for her chance to slaughter your team from the word go assuming I haven't gotten anything wrong. also phantoms turning on the player is not a thing in the souls games thankfully. Black Souls is such a strange and oddly volatile mixture of excess and existentialism one moment your fighting a twisted Alice beast the next you're pondering what sustains art. this is so strange but also great. As someone who hasn't played the souls games yet you can't appreciate just how accurate those messages are to the souls games yes some of the wording is identical to souls messages but the placement and their use makes them feel like they ware placed by real people. P.s Jub Jub for all her madness has a really nice bust.
Doll Alice can only be talked to after reaching a certain ending, I won't anything else to not spoil you further. And I personally prefer reaching Oxward through the Slaughterhouse, since reaching the other side of Foggy Park advances the game the same way killing a boss does AKA makes Jubjub kill everyone sooner (and I think she still will since just being in a covenant did not prevent her from killing everyone iirc). I hope I didn't spoil too much, I've played this game way too much. Great vid!
Jubjub will not kill your daughter though (Humpty-Dumpty soul child). Actually her maternal instinct kick in and want to adopted her if possible, really cute NGL.
@Bu Bou If you go to Vernai AFTER Jubjub he'll be bleeding near Jabberwock bridge and you will have red option of finish him off. Finishing him off would give you a book but not the greatsword.
I think many players missed the point that in fact Jubjub has never killed most of NPCs. I mean DIRECTLY. Look at this: Dodo's remains are found in the butcher's room(so Jubjub killed her and then placed them there? wtf?) Duchess' head is severed and eaten and her body is nowhere to be found, and when you come to the basement Infinite Food is awake(a hint that she was eaten by it, I presume the Chief is involved in some way here too). Turtle girl suicides herself leaving suicidal note(so she was not killed by a hand of a 3rd party) Griffy is probably poisoned by Turtle(as far as I could understand the note) Shisha's bloodstain refers to a certain "rapist" but how could Jubjub rape her? Wear a dildo? Rabbit girl's corpse is found in upper town with a description that her intestines were torn out(a hint that Jack killed her, she dies if you don't kill him before going to her hut) Bill is devoured and his bones are vomited out(snakes do that in nature, a hint that Snake God ate him) Shivuchi is killed by Oyster. Hatter trio got the softest(compared to others) death by hanging. But if you arrive to Endless Tea Party before they die, you can see that the ropes are already waiting for them in the tower 1st level. No clear hints here but I presume they've killed themselves. And The Hatter is immortal btw. These are the ones I recall immediately. From Jubjub's singing I feel the direct hint to her victim is Humpty Dumpty. Other songs made no sense(as hints) for me. My hypothesis is that it was not Jubjub who killed at least Griffy, Dodo, Duchess, Bill, Hatter trio and Turtle girl but the madness caused by the clocktower itself(or the Gear of Madness). Or else this game's events and hints make no sense at all. Also I have no clue who killed Shisha in this scenario. Maybe she overdosed herself by smoking and died hallucinating...?
I kind of agree with what you said; that Jub Jub didn't kill anyone DIRECTLY, all the ones you said die because of the madness (Marie dies because of Jack if you don't kill him and Shisha dies from overdosed, also Dodo died so who place the sign from where she was standing?). So let's see it by the INDIRECT method. I have 2 theories for this: 1.-Jub Jub killed them via madness when she went for a stroll. (Sounds silly I know, but Jub Jub says that every time she went for a stroll all the villagers welcomed her. Some laugh, some scream, some get lusty.... This means that she, with her presence alone, causes madness; but also look at Peter Pan, in the battle he betrays us for Jub Jub, [although she says it was because of horniness, I do not blame him] but the important thing here is that it happens in progress 10 (well when we activate it) we can not do anything because we were fighting against a boss or we explore far away places. What Jub Jub would like, for some reason, to do is take a stroll through wonderland. Causing madness to everyone in her path. And then go back to her tower to feel so good from all the madness she caused. Another thing to add here if we lock Jub Jub up or kill her before progress 10 everyone is fine, well most of them, when it happens). 2- Jub Jub used the gear of madness in the tower. (The gear of madness is an artifact that is obtained by killing Jub Jub that is used to change the SEN of the user at will, Jub Jub used it because well, she felt bored, maybe putting it in a key place of the tower where we can not reach because we do not fly, boosting the tower with the gear of madness, to affect all wonderland and then removed it having fulfilled its purpose and kept it. Since also the tower changes color in progress 10). Who knows it may be both.
@@A-xperiments I just realised Dodo was eaten by Duchess. The signboard that is placed at her spot is the very much alike to the sign you found near the entrance of Duchess' house. Their message are quite the same sarcastic ones. Then we find Dodo's remains in the Slaughterhouse(in the boss room). Slaughterhouse is connected to Duchess' house in some way, not mapwise but lorewise. In the Slaughterhouse with
Thanks man i was losing my mind when they kept dying i noticed it after killing bosses so i stopped killing until i saw you killing them without resting.
Thx u so much for making this video and also to other people who share tips on how to save everyone. I kind of pissed off when I try to save everyone without looking at a guide but I ended 'kill' a lot of them lol
I just Discovery The Lore of Jack The reaper and The... Girl of The beginning of The video and all I can say Is... Are you sure this Is an, you know, and not a tragedy
Thx bro just finished my first playthrough and it was kinda scuffed because I'd arrive somewhere and an npc would just be dead and or missing, I thought I softlocked my game 😅
Man, I think "prevent" is a wrong word. I meat, after some time I noticed tweens covenant disappeared, and after I came back one twin killed other one. I still don't know what happened.
@@A-xperiments I've made an experiment: JubJub MUST die, or most of non DLC characters will die. There's few triggers that kill characters that I noticed: Scene with JubJub and chick, helping to Rabbit knight before Jabberwock (PROBABLY it's working after you reached Tea Party, but I'm not sure) and returning to Tea Party after you was on the top of Clock Tower After I killed JubJub, Twins, Dushess and few more characters was still alive. (Ah, and of course JubJub must die BEFORE you kill ALL orinal story bosses)
@꧁༒༺IDaniil KolomietsI༻༒꧂ You just need to either kill or imprison Jub Jub before you reach progress 10 (You can check you progress by looking at how many lights are on above the door in the dream library) to prevent her from making everyone else become mad and kill themselves. As for the twins, they kill each other if you do the deed with them.
@@hata2895 Thanks, I didn't know about it! Damn, this game is incredibly awesome! I think that without RPGMAKER redactor we will never found ALL secrets!
@@A-xperiments also are these torches time based. Because im starting a new playthrough and the only boss i've killed was Headhunting Beast and somehow three torches are lit
My game is the dlc3 version and somehow that red hood girl is nowhere to be seen. The game had built in hacks so I wonder if if I use it, it would trigger some events that I dont know of? Like it would skip some events and the npcs would be killed
Yes you can go to Bloddy Tears in the room of Drink me. And just crossed the bridge defeating the beast with the russian duck. But still why not kill the rabbit?
@@A-xperiments Srry im quite new to bs2 so I think the fog is the boss door, so do you mean that the boss rabbit will progress it? If it does can I still follow the guide? I dont wanna spend another 10+ hours to delete another run
@@bernardus3289 As I said before Fog increments progress( the only exception Bandersnatch if you are invisible). Why deleted runs? You can cycle again. Unless you are trying SL1 any difficulty.
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Here's some important information: in my playthrough, I came to the university when my boss progress was 9, so by the time I'm by the tower my boss progress was 10. I managed to prevent everyone from dying with simply not resting at a bonfire. Resting at a bonfire activates scripts causing death of everyone, so I just went through the tower without using bonfires and killed jubjub. After that I safely rested and nothing bad happened. So if you reached the boss limit - just don't use bonfires
This is insanely useful information, kudos!
What if you use the bonfire inside the library?
Then most characters die or become mad.
@@A-xperiments then how do you progress the story?
@@laka1889 Going to Alice searching everywhere until 10 torch are on fire. Go to white door. The End of a cicle.
Fun fact: You can reach Mental Ward early from Rabbit hole Via 0 Sen. Just to point out how the video start
Fighting Jack The Ripper was super sad while wearing Edith’s ring. Especially after seeing the film about them in Queensland. Poor Edith always getting the short end of the stick.
I just finished my first run, most of my waifu died halfway in my game while I was wondering around everywhere in the map, feels bad man.
It is so tempting to redo the covenants but the Alice jump scares man… JESUS
I think that's the snake god curse. It only triggers if you kill certain heroines, it happened immediately to me when I killed the serpent god at least. There's a thing you can interract with in the gallery to stop it from happening.
I thought that only triggers If you kill the snake god
@@A-xperimentsyes. I tried to do it to him non consensually and accidentally saved now im cooked.
@@hakuzxc its not alice its the serpent god (serpent god is male)
Hatter, Dormouse, and Haigha got me cracking up, it's not easy to do that with just dialogue.
Seems like it would be nice to sleep with Dormouse. As in take a refreshing, 3-hour afternoon nap with her. (Nohorny)
Washboard flatty-patty love
damb sad to see this got de-montized though I'm happy you're still uploading BS2 sir keep up the good work. Interesting twist with Jack. Odd to see how all the stories are still twisted and amalgamated when merry Sue isn't running things I wonder if it's the nature of outer gods to twist the world like this.
If I'm honest, demonetization doesn't interest me one bit; if they allow me to keep my video from getting deleted, I'm very happy.
@@A-xperiments congrats on saving your wifu's you know what this calls for..... a heram. XD that said the idea of Jub Jub being this harsh of a kill timer on everybody is sort of insane it's a spin on a mechanic in the souls series but the souls games ware never this harsh about it as even when someone starts killing your allies YOU needed to do something to enable the killing spree to start but hare the Mad bird is watching and waiting for her chance to slaughter your team from the word go assuming I haven't gotten anything wrong. also phantoms turning on the player is not a thing in the souls games thankfully.
Black Souls is such a strange and oddly volatile mixture of excess and existentialism one moment your fighting a twisted Alice beast the next you're pondering what sustains art. this is so strange but also great. As someone who hasn't played the souls games yet you can't appreciate just how accurate those messages are to the souls games yes some of the wording is identical to souls messages but the placement and their use makes them feel like they ware placed by real people.
P.s Jub Jub for all her madness has a really nice bust.
Doll Alice can only be talked to after reaching a certain ending, I won't anything else to not spoil you further. And I personally prefer reaching Oxward through the Slaughterhouse, since reaching the other side of Foggy Park advances the game the same way killing a boss does AKA makes Jubjub kill everyone sooner (and I think she still will since just being in a covenant did not prevent her from killing everyone iirc).
I hope I didn't spoil too much, I've played this game way too much. Great vid!
Jubjub will not kill your daughter though (Humpty-Dumpty soul child). Actually her maternal instinct kick in and want to adopted her if possible, really cute NGL.
@Bu Bou could you not just kill her at that point. why bother with the R option?
@Bu Bou If you go to Vernai AFTER Jubjub he'll be bleeding near Jabberwock bridge and you will have red option of finish him off. Finishing him off would give you a book but not the greatsword.
I think many players missed the point that in fact Jubjub has never killed most of NPCs. I mean DIRECTLY. Look at this:
Dodo's remains are found in the butcher's room(so Jubjub killed her and then placed them there? wtf?)
Duchess' head is severed and eaten and her body is nowhere to be found, and when you come to the basement Infinite Food is awake(a hint that she was eaten by it, I presume the Chief is involved in some way here too).
Turtle girl suicides herself leaving suicidal note(so she was not killed by a hand of a 3rd party)
Griffy is probably poisoned by Turtle(as far as I could understand the note)
Shisha's bloodstain refers to a certain "rapist" but how could Jubjub rape her? Wear a dildo?
Rabbit girl's corpse is found in upper town with a description that her intestines were torn out(a hint that Jack killed her, she dies if you don't kill him before going to her hut)
Bill is devoured and his bones are vomited out(snakes do that in nature, a hint that Snake God ate him)
Shivuchi is killed by Oyster.
Hatter trio got the softest(compared to others) death by hanging. But if you arrive to Endless Tea Party before they die, you can see that the ropes are already waiting for them in the tower 1st level. No clear hints here but I presume they've killed themselves. And The Hatter is immortal btw.
These are the ones I recall immediately.
From Jubjub's singing I feel the direct hint to her victim is Humpty Dumpty. Other songs made no sense(as hints) for me.
My hypothesis is that it was not Jubjub who killed at least Griffy, Dodo, Duchess, Bill, Hatter trio and Turtle girl but the madness caused by the clocktower itself(or the Gear of Madness). Or else this game's events and hints make no sense at all. Also I have no clue who killed Shisha in this scenario. Maybe she overdosed herself by smoking and died hallucinating...?
I kind of agree with what you said; that Jub Jub didn't kill anyone DIRECTLY, all the ones you said die because of the madness (Marie dies because of Jack if you don't kill him and Shisha dies from overdosed, also Dodo died so who place the sign from where she was standing?). So let's see it by the INDIRECT method.
I have 2 theories for this:
1.-Jub Jub killed them via madness when she went for a stroll. (Sounds silly I know, but Jub Jub says that every time she went for a stroll all the villagers welcomed her. Some laugh, some scream, some get lusty.... This means that she, with her presence alone, causes madness; but also look at Peter Pan, in the battle he betrays us for Jub Jub, [although she says it was because of horniness, I do not blame him] but the important thing here is that it happens in progress 10 (well when we activate it) we can not do anything because we were fighting against a boss or we explore far away places. What Jub Jub would like, for some reason, to do is take a stroll through wonderland. Causing madness to everyone in her path. And then go back to her tower to feel so good from all the madness she caused. Another thing to add here if we lock Jub Jub up or kill her before progress 10 everyone is fine, well most of them, when it happens).
2- Jub Jub used the gear of madness in the tower. (The gear of madness is an artifact that is obtained by killing Jub Jub that is used to change the SEN of the user at will, Jub Jub used it because well, she felt bored, maybe putting it in a key place of the tower where we can not reach because we do not fly, boosting the tower with the gear of madness, to affect all wonderland and then removed it having fulfilled its purpose and kept it. Since also the tower changes color in progress 10).
Who knows it may be both.
@@A-xperiments I just realised Dodo was eaten by Duchess. The signboard that is placed at her spot is the very much alike to the sign you found near the entrance of Duchess' house. Their message are quite the same sarcastic ones.
Then we find Dodo's remains in the Slaughterhouse(in the boss room). Slaughterhouse is connected to Duchess' house in some way, not mapwise but lorewise.
In the Slaughterhouse with
Hatter trio are just chilling and Dum eats Dee because she tastes good?
@@indifferentone8991 The twins die but more like Dee kills Dum and then when you talk to Dee she then starts a fight and you have to beat her
@@soundwave1479 Is there any way to prevent it? I need their covenant very hard, because in DLC3 too much oneshot non bosses that also immortal
Thanks man i was losing my mind when they kept dying i noticed it after killing bosses so i stopped killing until i saw you killing them without resting.
Thx u so much for making this video and also to other people who share tips on how to save everyone. I kind of pissed off when I try to save everyone without looking at a guide but I ended 'kill' a lot of them lol
A nearly hour long tutorial to prevent your waifus from dying. My dude, tf is this game?
You better don't know, and it's sad when everyone you saw just dies in really horrible ways in this game
Nice video and thanks for the guide. I hope to see more youtube channels about this amazing game! :)
I just Discovery The Lore of Jack The reaper and The... Girl of The beginning of The video and all I can say Is... Are you sure this Is an, you know, and not a tragedy
It said most cuz unfortunately... More importantly on your 1st run some of them need to perish...
Pretty sure I over did it... Jun Jun died in two hits. I mean I'm not complaining
Edit: I'm not fixing that
You can save most... but not all s😥😥
Thx friend, you help me a lot
Thx bro just finished my first playthrough and it was kinda scuffed because I'd arrive somewhere and an npc would just be dead and or missing, I thought I softlocked my game 😅
Man, I think "prevent" is a wrong word. I meat, after some time I noticed tweens covenant disappeared, and after I came back one twin killed other one.
I still don't know what happened.
Probably Dum eat Dee maybe because she saw her doing stuff with you Idk otherwise.
@@A-xperiments
I've made an experiment: JubJub MUST die, or most of non DLC characters will die.
There's few triggers that kill characters that I noticed: Scene with JubJub and chick, helping to Rabbit knight before Jabberwock (PROBABLY it's working after you reached Tea Party, but I'm not sure) and returning to Tea Party after you was on the top of Clock Tower
After I killed JubJub, Twins, Dushess and few more characters was still alive. (Ah, and of course JubJub must die BEFORE you kill ALL orinal story bosses)
@꧁༒༺IDaniil KolomietsI༻༒꧂ You just need to either kill or imprison Jub Jub before you reach progress 10 (You can check you progress by looking at how many lights are on above the door in the dream library) to prevent her from making everyone else become mad and kill themselves. As for the twins, they kill each other if you do the deed with them.
@꧁༒༺IDaniil KolomietsI༻༒꧂ Side note: You get an interesting scene at the beach if you meet Kuti before progress 10 and leave Jub Jub alive too.
@@hata2895 Thanks, I didn't know about it!
Damn, this game is incredibly awesome! I think that without RPGMAKER redactor we will never found ALL secrets!
One question, how do i cook rice?
I wanna know, are there characters which are impossible to save?
Yes
When does Jub Jub activate?
In progress 10 when all torchs in the library are on fire.
@@A-xperiments you think i can still pull it off with 4 torches left?
@@J0hnHenrySNEEDen depends on how many bosses you need to get to her If it exact number Idk honestly I never tried to do something like that.
@@A-xperiments also are these torches time based. Because im starting a new playthrough and the only boss i've killed was Headhunting Beast and somehow three torches are lit
@@J0hnHenrySNEEDen Some torches light when you pass a fog and beat the boss, other ones light when you unlock or go other areas.
My game is the dlc3 version and somehow that red hood girl is nowhere to be seen. The game had built in hacks so I wonder if if I use it, it would trigger some events that I dont know of? Like it would skip some events and the npcs would be killed
Tienes la cordura el 0? o menos?
I think she doesn't appear if your SEN is above 0
ty !
Can u start doing this before killing the boss rabbit?
Yes you can go to Bloddy Tears in the room of Drink me. And just crossed the bridge defeating the beast with the russian duck. But still why not kill the rabbit?
@@A-xperiments does it not count to the progression counter?
@@bernardus3289 You can progress only with the fog or some switches as long as you don't pass them or trigger it the progress don't go up.
@@A-xperiments Srry im quite new to bs2 so I think the fog is the boss door, so do you mean that the boss rabbit will progress it? If it does can I still follow the guide? I dont wanna spend another 10+ hours to delete another run
@@bernardus3289 As I said before Fog increments progress( the only exception Bandersnatch if you are invisible). Why deleted runs? You can cycle again. Unless you are trying SL1 any difficulty.
So do I kill or caputre JubJub to save them or just be chill?
Yes either option is save then otherwise most of them die or get mad.
@@A-xperiments Thanks I'll keep that in mind next run D:::
Where can i get this game?
Dl site
@@A-xperiments could you send me the link on where to download the game? because i searched DLSite it shows no results of Black Souls
So... Nothing happens if you make a covenant and everyone lives?
Nope from what I know, You kill or imprison her or most characters die for Madness