John Singer Sargent (Full Length): Madame X and Dr. Pozzi
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John Singer Sargent was the most successful society portrait painter of the Belle Epoque, and having one’s portrait painted by him was seen as an indication of impeccable good taste. In this episode, I look at two paintings created by Sargent. Two paintings united by scandal. One of them is of Doctor Pozzi, a celebrity gynaecologist and infamous ladies' man, who was referred to by many of his clients as L’Amour médecin, or Doctor Love. The other is Madame X, or Virginie Gautreau, who, like Dr. Pozzi, had a colourful love life, and is also shown in a provocative pose.
The paintings have been written about and discussed as separate works of art, but instead of looking at them as two separate paintings - maybe it’s time we talked about them as a pair?
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SUBTITLES
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Spanish Subtitles by Alma Perdomo (Gracias!)
CREDITS
Opening Animation and Title Sequence by Brian Adsit (instagram brian_vfx?... and Behance www.behance.com/badsit88)
Sound Mix by Oscar Sidoff Rydelius (Thank you!)
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BOOKS
The Grand Affair: John Singer Sargent in His World by Paul Fisher
John Singer Sargent: Masterpiece Edition by Carter Ratcliff
John Singer Sargent: Painting Friends by Barbara Dayer Gallati, Erica Hirshler
John Singer Sargent and the Art of Allusion by Bruce Redford
MUSIC
Clair De Lune by Claude Debussy
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Very cool.
Dear Sir, don't ever stop educating us masses. your Art history videos are invaluable.
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Hearing a serious art channel say "Overtly sexual swagger" is a delight lol
Haha, yes!
Why? The word "swagger" was used by William Shakespeare and has been used in many academic ways for the last 600+ centuries. It's a perfect word to use in this case.
I remember even reading JRR Tolkien using it, forgot which book.
Why wouldn't a serious art channel say that?
Your storytelling is so original and unique. Everything is perfect, right down to the last detail (The choice of music, and so on). Very insightful too. In short, it was worth the wait!
Thanks Dee!
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Please, please never change the way you present your incredible videos, your delivery, the gentle background music, everything is pitch perfect. You dont know how much we need people like you on youtube, or even in life. Your genuine and honest love of art makes you a favourite with literally millions of people. I have learnt SO much from you. You are the best.
I really enjoy it when you delve into the artist's technique. It isn't something I usually think about when I look at a painting, but it is fascinating.
I appreciate that thanks 🙏
Sergeant's work is stellar. Critics only beg to be able to paint as he did.
Those who con "do", those who can't "criticize".
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Exactly.
Art critics are the reason many of the uneducated get to know artists. Reviewing things is a part of humanity and exists in every facet of art and entertainment.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme Historians, schools, these documentaries,, and museums contribute to people getting to know artists. Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one, and that's the category critics and their politics and forwarding their careers fall in. There have been many truly great artists who fell through the cracks because some asshole had an opinion.
You are, hands down, my favorite channel on TH-cam. I watch your videos over and over again. Incredible. Impeccable. Magnifique.
Thanks for the kind comment 🙏
I saw both Dr. Pozzi and Madame X in person at the Met in the same room during an expedition. Both are absolutely stunning, and two of my favorite portraits of all time.
Your videos put my expensive university art history course to shame! Thank you again for every video.
Thanks for watching! Please like and leave a comment. It REALLY helps promote the channel. Thanks, James
I just wanted to point out a minor thing: You're talking about France in the 19th Century, saying victorian is stretching terms. France didn't have Victoria as a queen, and at a several moments during the 19th Century they had no monarch at all. Point is, Victorian refers to Britain as it's a name that roots in the reigning monarch in the same way as Georgian and Regency refer only to Britain (all monarch-based terms).
@ He surely knows it.
But first of all, he is talking about a cosmopolitan American who began his career in France and then transitioned to England, so it's not like this is a purely French story.
Second, he is trying to connect with an audience, and they largely understand the term Victorian, and may not even know la Belle Epoque. I imagine it was a choice he deliberately made.
Thank you for the education of art. If only I had talent!
Interesting!
@@carolynfogel6546you have! Everyone is creative and if you can learn to write, you can learn to draw. 👍
Its so crazy how relevant his work is today. When I was at art school almost 10 years ago I'll never forget all the master copies we were forced to make of Sargent's portraits just to figure out how to hold a brush, apply paint to canvas, etc.
When I was at art school 20 years ago, applying paint to canvas wasn't encouraged. In which country did you attend art school? I'd love to know.
@@stuartwray6175 I went to art school in america!
I've had several friends attend art school from the 90s to the naughties and I must say applying paint to canvas was rare, and it was never figurative. Shame, they were often promising painters prior to attending the school
I just kept saying 'Wow'. His nearly photo realistic faces and hands combined with the impressionistic hints are😂 simply Devine!
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I feel that as an American artist, one of the biggest highlights of one’s career would be painting an official portrait of a U.S. president. Especially one as renowned as Theodore Roosevelt, but for Sargent that’s only a footnote in a remarkable career. There are not many artist you can say that about.
Teddy was boring...He was neither pretty, nor homo-erotic.
Thank you Mr. Payne for all the hard work❤ I really appreciate it and will keep on supporting your channel!
I love how the slightest of poses can trigger the wildest reactions. Great story and great education from this video❤
Makes me think about being a artist back then…the drawing process won’t be the struggle but the society…vs now anything can be painted with little thought about it
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Sargent is a huge artistic influence this day. We are still trying to capture his effortless strokes. To mimic that impression of dancing with the brush.
Living in NYC, every time I visit the Met, I always swing by the American Wing to pay a visit to Madame X. It truly is a masterpiece. Once you enter the gallery, the painting draws all the attention to itself, ignoring the surrounding art work. Thank you for exploring this amazing piece.
So jealous!!
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Me too! I can't go and not see her!
More jealousy!!! I saw it once and will never forget …. seeing in upon entering the room. Los Angeles - LACMA IN 2004.
I don't know why, but Madame X always looked to me like a witch. A powerful, independet woman, filled with magic and dressed fabric made of night.
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I feel the simplicity of it and the background actually create a feeling of mystery and that black color dress gives a feeling that this isn't an ordinary woman !
What I love about Sargent's art, is that he dared to tell the truth about the subject of the painting. That may have been done provocatively at times, but, in my opinion, with no exaggeration whatsoever.
Thank you for telling the story of these two fascinating paintings and their author in such a well-thought and engaging manner.
I wish sooo bad that he never altered the madame X painting. It's so much better with the strap falling off. It really ties everything together for me.
Watching your videos is like sitting in an art class taught by an inspiring teacher. Thank you for all your hard work and willingness to share your learning, James. 🙏🏼
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I love the little Greco-Roman nods in the Madame X painting. I never would’ve picked up on the crescent tiara being a potential reference to Diana
In art iconography it surely is. But at least for me there's a giant "BUT": Diana is considered not only as the goddess of hunt, but as the impersonation of chastity. Which Mme. X obviously was not. This contrast would certainly have been witnessed by painter, sitter and audience. So I wonder if this could have been an intended display of irony or sarcasm.
( Hope I could convey what I mean although English not being my first language. Apologies if I inadvertently didn't choose the correct terms...)
@@renater.540 that’s a great point. It could also be a symbolic representation of a kind of Madonna/whore complex, with both chaste beauty and licentiousness embodied in the same individual. Diana was a hunter belied by virginity, while the beauty of the sirens belied their predatory natures.
I regard Sargent not so much as an innovator, but as a skilled classically trained illustrator of the highest order. I'm inspired by his paintings because of the precision and seductive immediacy of his alla prima paint application and tonal mastery. I've learned l lot watching your videos and think it the best art appreciation channel of all. Please do an episode on Sargent watercolors, where he simply painted for himself. That's where he really shines.
I had never heard of Sargent before a college friend (an art history major) asked if I wanted to accompany her on a trip to the Art Institute of Chicago to see the Sargent exhibition that was there for a few months. It had all of his major works. I had never really appreciated portraiture as a genre before seeing his genius on full display, but I was captivated. I loved Madame X and Carnation, Lily…, but the one I could not tear my eyes away from was the dual portrait of Mr. and Mrs. I. N. Phelps Stokes. I stood there for minutes, just creating a story about this couple in my head, they were so vibrantly captured!
if you haven't yet, Boston has more Sargent works than any other city.
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I was just at the Art Institute and saw a few of Sargent's paintings for the first time and now I'm here :)
Your videos are, by a considerable margin, my favourite youtube 'content'. I come away from every one in awe of the artist you have been discussing. Making great art accessible is 'god's work'. Long may you continue sir.
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This is just... so good. It's like watching an excellent movie when you're so captivated, nothing else exists. And then, like some kind of skilled hypnosis, you gently come out of the trance at the end. Excellent.
I love the original version with the shoulder strap falling off SO MUCH more. Its absolutely beautiful.
Coming back to thank you again for the *excellent* history lesson. Your passion really shines through, and you really enrich my life! 😌
Thanks Artur 🙏
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I can’t articulate how grateful I am for this production. Thank you.
Thank you for bringing art into our lives and giving those of us who felt like outsiders a chance to learn.
Thank you for an incisive and well informed review of one of my favorite artists. I’m old enough to remember how Sargent was dismissed as nothing more than a painter of wealthy society. Now we can appreciate his legacy and mesmerizing works.
There is another painting of her in this presentation with her strap down in exactly the same way. Was it her idea to be presented that way in the Madame X portrait, only for her to be, might it be said, thwarted by her mother?
In the later painting , so much can be inferred. A defiant mocking of the critics and art aficionados so outraged by the portrait that she was condemned and forced to leave Paris along with her family? Or was it a rebellious statement of separation from her mother as she clearly repeated the pose her mother insisted on changing?
Probably both.
It's interesting and also puzzling that she spent her later years happily with her boring, banker husband. He had to have known about her scandalous affairs. Many, if not most men, would have been enraged and humiliated, but it seems not to have been the case with him.
I would love to know more about their marriage.
This channel has become an absolute favorite of mine. Your videos reignited my passion for learning about the Fine Arts and motivated me to go back to the Art Institute to visit a few paintings you discussed. Your video on Hopper's Nighthawks made me see the piece in a whole new light.
OMG! I instantly fell in love with Dr. Pozzi!
I discovered this channel some days ago and I haven't stopped watching every video twice and three times. I have learned so much about art from you. I can't thank you enough. Thank you so so much.
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What a well researched and fascinating look at Sargant the painter and the man, with great footage and biographical details that explain the painters upbringing, his artistic techniques and how he was both an outsider and insider with his transatlantic bohemian education and language skills. Bravo Great Art Explained another winner, opening up doors of perception.
Never heard about the guy before but his work is truly amazing. thank you for the video and introducing many of us to him
Amazing vid. You are incredible.
While Sargent was undeniably a genius, and these two particular portraits are a testament to that, the true masterpiece here is the video. An impeccable analysis, so well put together, thoroughly educational and entertaining, as we can already expect from you. Thank you so much for yet another brilliant watch.
James you've outdone yourself with this video. This is outstanding, a work of art unto itself.
Thank you so much! Each episode can't come soon enough!
Thanks for the comment!
Every video is a piece of art unto itself.
Thank you! James
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His fingers really are amazing, especially with his painting technique
Thank you James,I'm sitting here on my breakfast table with tears in my eyes after watching this...
Fascinating insights. My appreciation of these works has increased dramatically. Thank you
Exactly my feelings...
Amazing as always.
The inclusion of the detailed explanation on the technique is superb,congratulations.
Glad you enjoyed it!
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I used to work in the Hammer Museum where Dr. Pozzi's portrait resides. It was wonderful to "see" him everyday and contemplate the portrait and what he represented to the 19th century audience.
I saw Madam X in the Met this year, I felt like I completed a quest. I'm so exited to watch the video 👀
So happy to see your channel growing in number of subscribers!
I enjoy to re-play your videos every now and then
Glad you like them!
Another masterpiece, James. Congratulations and thank you for your incredible efforts.
Very well done. I love Sargents work and this is a fantastic dive into his work
To the viewers: If you want to know more about J.S.Sargent's 'gifted', 'genius' ability to capture/ express 'moments in time' and personalities with paint, look at his watercolors (hundreds of them). Virtuosic, expressive brush work you can see up close because the medium is so 'transparent'. Astonishing color juxtapositions that are mostly 'perfect'. (He 'experimented' with various colors together which he later used in his portrait oils.)
To the creator(s): Thanks for this very expertly written and produced video. I hope you can expand your examinations of artists to include more of their studies and other 'formative' works. That is where they develope and reveal their 'skills'. But, of course, this would probably make the videos longer.
The skin tones he created was just incredible!
James, this one is superb!!! I was not aware of the magnificence of John's work and now surely is a favorite. I will look for his books and get to know more. Loved this video. Thank you for another gem. Clair de Lune was a perfect pick. Cheers from São Paulo.
Thank you! 🙏
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As always, a fascinating and well-researched piece.
A stunning look into the work of a genius.
I have the great pleasure of sitting before the portrait of Dr. Pozzi at the Hammer museum in Los Angeles. It is truly stunning, you can look at it for hours feeling the shades of meaning, appreciating every brush stroke, and enjoying the scandalous history. If you ever come to LA, don’t miss it! It’s in a small, almost hidden gallery along with some LeTrec and Rembrandt’s!
Yours is quite possibly my favorite channel on TH-cam, and I watch a LOT of video essays. You have such a brilliant way of making everything engaging and showing off how well you researched without even having to resort to jokes of any kind, it’s just about the art and it’s amazing. I’ve never been a huge fan of documentaries because of the length (though I love fiction movies), but I would watch a feature length video of you explaining fascinating art pieces and their history any day
Thanks so much 🙏
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I ❤❤❤ your videos! Your research, storytelling, educating, attention to details, presentations make it a delight to learn to appreciate Art and Artists!
Thank you again. 🙏🏽❤
I have always wondered how this early artists could afford a life of travel and study. I would like more information on how the family and or artists could afford this life style. Thank you
ILOVE LOVE LOVE the stories! Give us more!
I'm obsessed with this channel, top quality! Thank you for your hard work, it shows!
Thanks so much 🙏
"Gynecologist and infamous ladies man" dear god 😬😬😬😬😬
IKR???
They say, "When you enjoy your job, you never work a day in your life"......eesh
Those are 2 things that should never go gether 😬😂
This was an amazing presentation! A close friend of mine and his family , facing bankruptcy and the loss of their home , discovered a Sargent painting in a crawl space while moving out. A stroke of good luck for sure
Wow!
So happy I stumbled on this wonderful channel
Bellissimo! I knew this would be a fascinating video as soon as you proposed covering both paintings. But I had no idea there was a connection between the two subjects; it's truly enlightening!
Although I've been a fan of "Carnation, Lily, Lily, Rose," I feel like now I have a deeper appreciation of John Singer Sargent and his paintings. Thank you very much for sharing this with us!!
Thanks for the comment!
I've been looking forward to this vid since you did the poll. John Singer Sargent is one of my favorite artists. Great video!
Unbelievably amazing! Thank you.
Thank you!
Only getting the chance to see this now. Really fantastic. Novel and innovative approach which is illuminating and enjoyable in equal measure. Really well done 👏 👏 👏
Amazing documentary about one of the greatest artists. Thank you!
These two artworks fit today's aesthetic standards. The shape and vibe it created are remarkable.
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Sargent had a ZEN approach of working quick and loose yet produced flawless 'abstract / realism'. His sense of line and shape are also very elegant. Impressive!
Wow Thank you so much for this lesson !
I'm a student at UCLA and I'm lucky enough to have seen the painting of Dr. Pozzi many times since the Hammer Museum is a short walk from my dorm. Seeing it for the first time was a pretty awesome experience. I had no idea about the history of the painting but it had an undeniable swagger in its composition that dominated the room, a hell of a feat considering it's practically right next to a Van Gogh, a Monet, and a Rembrandt. Always make it a point to see it whenever I swing by the Hammer nowadays
Thank you so much for the education you provide. I had become rather frustrated with art during my school years, and now I am catching up on what I have missed since then. As a musician, I find it highly interesting to compare the different artistic styles to composing techniques of that time. More so, I imagine trying to "translate" into music the paintings you present. It gives me a completely new and interesting perspective on my own craft.
Please never stop producing these videos. The world is richer for people like you.
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Thank you! He's one of my favorites. I have a copy of "Repose" in my living room and prints of some of his other paintings. I love his watercolors, also---what a phenomenally gifted artist. As an art student in college 50 years ago, he was considered passé by my professors, but I didn't care. He will always knock the air out of me when I see one of his works in a museum.
I have just visited the Singer Sargent and Fashion exhibition at Tate Britain. I was so pleased to have watched this before my visit. It was exquisite - it’s on until July 2024.
It’s a fantastic show @tate
I went to it the day before yesterday and it was about an hour before closing. They said it would take an hour to do so. And I thought I would be rushing it.
So I went again the next day this time at 1pm on a Thursday thinking it would be quiet. Not only was it one of the busiest exhibits I’ve been to.
It was so stylish. So beautiful. So incredibly interesting. I left the Tate at 4pm. 3 hours just in one exhibit. And I didn’t sit for a moment.
The portrait of Dr Pozzi I have to be honest I went back into that room 3 times maybe. To see it again. I’ve never seen red being used like that. The whole scale and underlying meaning of it, captured a real sense of what PR was and is. Imagining how they would have discussed details, the story of the sitter all of it made for one hell of a portrait.
The Tate did an incredible job actually with this exhibit, esp in showing real photos next to the portraits so you could see where Sargent had changed details, always in the favour of the sitter.
This is the kind of painting I would want.
One thing that eludes us is his personal life. I think it would be fascinating to learn more about.
Absolutely amazing video essay. I felt so much and learnt so much including at least 4 new words (your eloquence is unmatched!). Sargent might be my new favourite artist dethroning Egon Schiele. Portraiture is the art of capturing the essence of the subject and Sargent's ability to do this is unparalleled.
I like how the video touches on the different effects the two paintings had on the two subjects.
Please don't stop this amazing work - I hunt for your videos with utmost attention :)
Love it! Great video
The segment showing how he painted by tones and shadows is so helpful. I have been educated.
Two f my favorite paintings of all times. In NYC I still go to The MET and visit Madam X. It provides one with thought, ideas and silence. A mystery. The same for Doctor Pozzi. Even int he red robe he leaves one thinking if this was before or after an evening. Or maybe it was between two points. Great works that make you think. Art is in the eye of the beholder after all.
0:21: 🎨 John Singer Sargent was a successful portrait painter of the Belle Époque, known for his scandalous paintings of Dr Pozzi and Madame X.
5:32: 🎨 John Singer Sargent's success in the art world was fueled by his ability to create sensational and attention-grabbing paintings, starting with his debut at the Salon in 1878.
10:05: 🎨 Sargent's unique approach to painting involved dynamic brushwork and a focus on the model's body and personality.
14:46: 💥 Sargent's private life was mysterious, but the discovery of his intimate portfolio of sensual and erotic male nudes reveals his desire to push the boundaries of acceptable art.
19:45: 🎨 Madame Gautreau, a remarkable figure in Parisian society, reluctantly agreed to be painted by Sargent after months of persuasion.
24:08: 🖼 The scandal surrounding Madame X's portrait at the Salon in 1884 shocked Parisians due to her high social status and reputation for infidelity.
28:49: 🎨 John Singer Sargent's painting of Madame X became his most famous work and helped establish his reputation as a portraitist.
Recap by Tammy AI
Amazing video. You should do something on Anders Zorn!
My favorite artist. I was so excited for this video ever since you mentioned its production in the live stream
Rewatching this after going to the Sargent exhibition at the Tate today. Such wonderful paintings and a fantastic explanation of their context
I rarely leave comments but I’d like to share similar sentiments in effort to promote your well deserved hard work. Before watching your videos and The Canvas, visual arts had always eluded me despite my background in literature. Knowledge has always been one of the most treasured commodity in my personal philosophy; your work in disseminating invaluable insight into the history, technique and aesthetics has been pivotal in opening doors to a wealth of knowledge- not to mention the highly engaging and accessible nature delivered sans pedantry. For that, there aren’t enough thank-yous to amount for the service you have contributed to your audiences. Looking forward to feast on this new video of yours and many to come.
Couldn't agree more.
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One of the best episodes. Well researched as always but bringing the new lens of a diptych adds a fresh layer. Kudos.
Extraordinary James !!
Thank you
Thank you!
Thank you so much for doing both portraits!
James, once again, superb in every way. You're truly an excellent narrator and more. You dont know me (yet) but your videos keep my inspiration going. Im back in the studio again this weekend.
That’s what I like to hear! Keep creating 🙏
If you would like to make a video about the 1638 painting "Et in Arcadia Ego" by Nicalas Poussin - I can help:
What do the red stains on the robe of the kneeling shepherd mean?
Why the shepherdess has a moon-shaped face?
What does this painting have to do with "The Ambassadors" by Hans Holbein?
What does the shadow on the tomb mean?
Excellent documentary! Thank you!
Among your best videos. Worth the wait for your take on Sargent
The dropped, loose dress strap follows the neckline of the bodice. With the strap repositioned, the line is unbalanced and cut short.
Great video as always. Incredible story telling. However, the only thing I would like to point out in this whole video is where you have explained the Alla prima technique by showing the work of Chelsea Lang's youtube video, which was great, but putting a credit on screen would have been respectful and give her the recognition she deserves. She is an amazing artist and worth giving her credit. Cheers...
Hi Devi. I worked with Chelsea on this video and she was very helpful and friendly - She is credited at the top of the video description (as we agreed) and she was happy with that. But an onscreen credit would have looked wrong. Thanks for the comment but check out the video description.
SO good! Thank you for all your work producing these.
Absolutely loved this documentary and thank you for the book list.
My favorite expatriate American painter of all time. William Merritt Chase is second.
I didn't know it was possible to fall in love with a gynecologist separated by 142 years.
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What an insightful documentary! Thank you for making this!!!!
I love John Singer Sargent, alongside his 3 other models, Albert de Belleroche, Nicola d'Inverno and Thomas McKeller. I love art historian and appreciate their knowledge. They know everything that makes a great art.