Phonak Audeo Lumity Detailed Hearing Aid Review | Actual Hands-On Review!
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- Phonak Lumity Detailed Hearing Aid Review. Dr. Cliff Olson, Audiologist and founder of Applied Hearing Solutions in Phoenix Arizona, reviews the newest rechargeable lineup of Phonak Audeo Lumity Hearing aids!
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00:00 Introduction
01:09 Disclaimers
02:04 Phonak Lumity Models
03:08 What Lumity Looks Like
04:31 Bluetooth
07:42 Phonak Lumity R, Phonak Lumity RT, Phonak Lumity R-Life
08:53 Rechargeability
11:58 No CROS Option
12:26 New Charger Ease & Charger Case Go
14:59 AutoSense OS 5.0
15:46 SpeechSensor & StereoZoom 2.0
19:22 Integrated Roger Receivers
19:35 Roger ON iN, Roger Select iN, Roger Tablemic2
19:53 TV Connector & PartnerMic
20:27 New MyPhonak App
21:17 Final Thoughts of the Phonak Lumity - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
What are your thoughts on this new Phonak Lumity Hearing Aid lineup? Do they sound significantly better than the Paradise lineup?
Hi: I have Naida Marvel M70 - Naida , during the pandemic (in 2020) was damaged the previous model ( Naida Q70 SP), because of the short time I had to go for the new Naida and transfer the configuration, there was not enough time to test the Audeo Marvel-. I have been recommended to try the audeo model. I am disappointed to learn that there is no disposable battery version. Next year I will look into trying the audeo model.
I hope the brand hears my request, that there is a version with disposable batteries. I guess it will be possible to gather signatures. How many users love the disposable battery version? Me, forever. Unless the next model includes fast charging, the current Lumity seems to have a charging duration similar to the iphone - classic charger, not fast charging -.
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Thanks for your great videos! Greetings from Argentina!
@@Ferbetta The Lumity charges in 3 hours
@@Ferbetta where do I sign up? Phonak please we need batteries operated ones. For younger people with active lifestyles .. camping, driving.. etc
Will there be BTE line or Sky (kids) line? The sky line has get to upgrade and it has been 4 years
They are the worst devices LMAO 🤣
I am going to my AuD in three days to have a new hearing test (it’s been 7 years since I got the Unitrons) and I will get these new Lumity R90 Life hearing aids, plus the Roger On, and I can’t wait! It’s as though they were custom made for my needs! (Geeky lady who teaches and lives in a hot climate) Thank you for this marvelous presentation to guide us to what is new, outstanding, unique, and top of the list equipment. I truly appreciate all that you do here. You are making a huge difference in a confusing world.
Thank you so much for making these videos. I appreciate so much that you speak intelligently and give me all the technical details. You were the only professional on the internet who explained how hearing aid bluetooth worked and I bought the Phonak Paradise Life devices because I would be able to connect to any audio bluetooth device. I am only 60 and can literally keep working for years longer because of the ability to hear Teams meetings from my computer. Thank you!
I have to get hearing aids. Trying to decide where to start the process was a challenge. I selected an established company for a hearing test & I left with the only hearing aids I was shown. I didn’t feel comfortable with their process. I found your videos on TH-cam during the trial period. I was blown away on the education I received on hearing aids from your videos. I returned the hearing aids. I have scheduled an appointment with the only company within a reasonable driving distance that follows the best practices process. I know I would have made a huge mistake if I purchased hearing aids from the initial company I met with. I can’t thank you enough for your unbiased reviews…clear explanations on the current features of hearing aids…new technologies!!!
I wish you were my audiologist!!!
I finally had my VA audiology consult. My audiologist said I could get the Phonak Lumity Life after she asked if I had any specific models. I was so surprised they were already in the VA's logistical inventory, so they are now on order. I should get my initial fitting mid January. After listening to hundreds of your videos, I completely forgot to ask if they do REM at fitting. They better, or you will get a referral!
Thank you for your very thorough reviews. They are very helpful. I just read through all the comments below and I see there are a few people who don't have English as their first language. I am a native English speaker, and I find I have to keep stopping the video and rewinding because you cover material very quickly, and you speak very, very fast! I just wanted to give you some feedback. Thank you though for your comprehensive and valuable reviews.
Super late but you can change the speed of the video to help with fast or slow talkers. Hope this helps if it finds you
Just got my new hearing aids Audeo L90 RT a few days ago. These replaced ITE ones which I hated. So far, so good. Thanks for making these informative videos.
I’ve had the L90s for a week now and I’m a first time hearing aid user, this is crazy I can’t believe I’ve been living like this since my youth.. I don’t feel left out anymore, I take them out to sleep and I still light up in the morning when I put them on, technology is insane
They are horrible for musicians but for non musicians they might be ok, but for me they were horrible
Thanks, Dr. Cliff. It sounds like they made some interesting software updates. I agree that they should consider a replaceable battery model. Everyone has unexpected events that require longer than normal usage. My solution is a case that contains my Phonak Marvel M90 312 hearing aids and spare batteries. They have my current program installed. It's old technology, but a working Phonak Marvel is MUCH better than a dead Phonak Lumity.
Just started with the L90 model replacing Resound aids from 2014. Noticing a significant improvement in sound quality. Can’t wait to try them out in a busy restaurant.
Dr. Cliff. Thanks for this video. Certainly hearing conversation in loud environments is a major issue. But so is speech clarity in general. I purchased the audio marvel m90r’s several years ago and despite numerous fittings and real sound testing, I have experienced no improvement in clarity nor being able to hear in loud environments. Compared to the marvels, how would the Lumity’s stack up in these two crucial areas?
I'm really feeling the Christmas vibes on the thumbnail today 🎄🌟
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Such a helpful review. Thank you so much. A question I have (before buying these) is about the automatic pickup of speech behind me. Wouldn't that be a problem in a cocktail party where you might be in a small pod of three (or two) and there is another pod directly behind or to the side? How does the hearing aid "know" to stay focused on my pod? Anyone?
I just received a new pair of the Lumity L90's today. They're replacing a pair of Widex Beyond 440's. Definitely a noticeable improvement immediately!
Where did you buy from ?
I am a first time hearing aid user. I have had the lumity L70 R for about 2 weeks now. I am very impressed but am wondering why the automatic setting doesn’t allow for clearer hearing in louder background. Could this be due to the audiologist not performing REM at first fitting appointment. They said that happens at the second appointment.
Excellent video. Do the top 3 Lumity Rs pair with Mac laptops?
I have the Lumity R90 Life hearing aids, going from the top Widex of 3 years ago. Significant improvement, I can really hear my wife clearly now (don't tell her.)as well as many other sounds, and it adjusts automatically. However, I'm on the techie side and also travel internationally several times a year for photo shoots...6 African countries this last October. I wanted to know what charging standard Phonak used and if there was an emergency method for charging. I tried sending a couple of inquiries to Phonex support. The answers showed little, or no knowledge of the new line and I got some silly responses: "Thank you for reaching out to Phonak. Our hearing aids unfortunately are not Qi charger compatible, and you will be required to use the hearing aid's charger specifically. I would recommend reaching out to your provider and seeing if there is another option for a smaller. travel sized, charger. This may be more beneficial for you."
What travel sized charger do they think my provider is going to have? He just told me that nothing works except their charger. In another response I was told if someone stole my charger in Papua New Guinea to go to the local provider to get a replacement. Yeah, right. As you said in one of your reviews, disappointed that they didn't offer a replaceable battery model. I am buying a second Phonak Charger Case Go to carry in my baggage.
Love Phonak Paradise Audeo 90R hearing aids with Double Tap!!! 😁
Dr Cliff, I have ordered the Lumity Life 90 today which I'm upgrading to from the Paradise 90. The main draw was the waterproof feature. I wear a receiver-in-canal and my audiologist told me that would be fine with water. Could you please confirm/deny from experience? I'm curious for a second opinion.
How does the battery life compare to Paradise’s? I’m currently trying the Paradise and not sure about them. I’ve been in Oticon opn’s for years. I’m thinking of going to the More battery version.
And I literally just ordered new paradise units last month. Love it.
You can very likely exchange for the lumity - ask your audiologist!
@@futuremrskarp unfortunately I’m getting them through the VA. Nothing is easy through them
Thanks so much for this video. I'm getting new aids after 8 years. I appreciate the expertise of my audiologist but I can buy the exact same model for $3300 less on line which they claim comes with unlimited support and replacement parts. I'd appreciate your thoughts on the drawbacks of saving about 60%. Thanks
As a deaf person, I am really grateful to people who speak clearly. All I am hearing here is "Loominy" but it's spelt "Lumity". That is difficult for me. But it needn't be....
I'm very interested in the enhanced sound quality in background noise.
Thanx Dr. Cliff. i am the user of Paradise PHONAK since 2021, It was fantastically working but see my bad luck when there was an issue with both the receivers , my service personnel replaced both the receiver , but after that it completely gone, unable to bring it to the original position. what could be the issue. Will you suggest what else to try it out.
Thank you so much. Very helpful.
Just starting to learn about hearing aides since I need them. This video, although filled with great information, has left me wondering how anyone would ever decide on a first time purchase. I had no idea there are so many options and my husband thinks I should just go out and buy something to magnify the sound. I have people tell me that they never hear :) a pun, of course...that they do not help. After listening to this video, I certainly understand why. I would guess that most people just go for what they can afford and have no idea that most of these options are available and probably for most unaffordable.
The trial period that the devices should allow you could help you allay your anxiety. Try them and see. First time getting HA's is stressful in itself and takes some getting used to for your brain to adapt to.
Can you tell me where I can find a side-by-side feature comparison between the Paradise 90 and the new Lumity LR. There is bound to be one made by Phonak but I haven't been able to find it. THanks
Doctor Cliff, is there one of these RIC hearing aids (or any quality hearing aid) that protects your hearing from loud sudden spikes of noise (a loud screech, firecrackers, gunshots, etc)?
I have a profound monoaural hearing loss - totally deaf on one side, and profoundly deaf on the other. I have a question - I have been wearing the Audeo Marvel with a custom C Shell at Ultra Power - I know that the Paradise Life rechargeable versions do not offer UP on custom C Shells, but the battery version (obviously not Life) does. Is this still the case for Lumity? I dont use the CROS system, so the lack of it is not a problem for me, but the lack of battery option is a bit of a puzzle.
Hi Dr Cliff,.....
Given Costco Issues with Ks 10, have you seen or heard of any similar problems with Phonak Paradise hearing aids. Since the Ks 10's are close copies of Phonak Paradise, seem "reliability" " charging/battery " issues (or whatever Costco issues are) would be seen in the Phonak line. Thoughts???
If you happen to play guitar, the Phonak TV Connect devicw that sends TV directly to your Audeo Lumity Life HA's works wonderfully. Plus you can connect you guitar amp to the Phonak TV Connect and pipe your guitar and any backing tracks from your amp directly to your HA's, enabling silent practice sessions. Sound is similar to using an expensive musicians caliber ear monitor. Huge bonus!
As a musician, I am desperate to know how to make hearing aids and playing live work. Any other tips or resources you recommend?
Thanks for posting this. I was wondering how the audio latency is for the TV connect? I’m a musician and currently use direct input into compilot 2 which is extremely low latency but will no longer be able to use the compilot with the new aids. Thanks.
Currently under a trial with the Audeo Lumity life. Love the waterproof feature and streaming. Has anyone else had background issues with phone calls. People on the other end of the call complain they have trouble hearing me over all the background noise.
I'm new to hearing aids and I hated the demo with Oticon so much that I gave up on all hearing aids at first. However, I found a different audiologist who recommended the Phonak Audeo Lumity R/T model. Wow! Much better sound because it is so natural and not so mechanical/tinny/powerful/artificial (I still can't find the right words.).
These hearing aids are wonderful for so many reasons.
I have a profound hearing loss higher pitched female voices in particular very very difficult for me in your opinion will the phonak audeo Lumity be the answer? BTW, I need a BTE Thanks for your response
The charging case appears to have a green bottom. Does it accommodate the battery that clips on the bottom and provides charging on the go?
What hearing aid is the best for listening to music or videos that has a fuller sound? My current ones sound like I am listening to music thru a transistor radio
Hello dr. Cliff, will these new HA work with the old TV connector (bought in 2017)?
When are these features coming to the Phonak pediatric line? Didn't the Sky Marvels come out in 2018?
Can the Lumity be made into a Cros system? I have no hearing on right, moderate/severe on left. Also, does the TV Connector have really good volume range? And, any reason why an hdmi audio extractor could not be used between the TV Connector and Apple TV? Thanks!
far as the “waterproofing” goes, is this dependent on the receiver along with the life model?
I tested a new Oticon and found the clarity wonderful. I have a 10 year old Phonak with a Compilot and tv connector. If the phone rings while I am driving without my compilot on, I can answer the phone with the car being connected to my bluetooth. If the compilot is on while driving it would conflict with the car bluetooth. I was told that the Oticaon would allow the car bluetooth to bypass the hearing aid bluetooth and that I could use my car connection. It does not. The only problem is that the Oticon does not support the Android system so I have to hold the phone so I can spek into it and hear it in my hearing aids. Does the new Phonak allow the car to take over instead of the hearing aids so I can use the speaker in the car? I had a hard time hearing the conversation in the car if the phonak was on and I was driving but I could hear better through the speaker in the car. Please let me know.
You mentioned all Lumity Hearing Aids are IP68 rated. Where can I find that in the literature for the Phonak Lumity 90 (not the Life)?
Can you purchase Lumities without the active vent in the 70 and 90 range?
Currently have 2015 vintage Phonak Audeo V70 and ready for new HAs. I'm really struggling with the extra $1000 for L90 over the L70. When I do talk with someone it is usually with the someone to my right (my bad ear) so the SpeechSensor option and "in car" options in the L90 seem to be advantageous. The problem is that nobody mentions these in their reviews so I'm not sure how effective they are. $1000 worth?
Great info as always--authoritative and really well presented. One quibble/request: We're *people* with hearing loss, not "individuals" which sounds kind of stilted.
Dr. Cliff. I’m waiting for this hearing aids as in Italy they will be available only in November and it’s for my 9 years old son . As before he had phonak marvel and after we give a try to oticon More .(play px)
I have a question and here no one can answer to me what hearing aid is better oticon play px 1 OR this newest phonak that I’m waiting . ( the premium class)
I try to see if u have a good audiologist in Italy but u work only in USA 😢 if u have some one in Italy can u please share the contact. Thank you in advance
Going to be fitted tomorrow for phonaks. Question: If I am 20 yards away and someone is giving instruction is there a mode that the hearing aid will allow for this? I heard you talk about the AI of these hearing aids. I was just wondering about distance. I ride show jumpers and my trainer asked me to please help him by getting hearing aids. Will they help? High frequency loss in both left and right. Thanks.
This has to do with Critical Distance. Check out my Vlog #42
Just one question otherwise a good video I got the Phonak Marvel when I'm paired to either my computer or phone at home it sometimes breaks up but I'm go to go outside my home the lumity do the same thing when I'm home?
Have a question for you Doc.
Which brand of HAs have rhe ability to directly pairing with Apple watch or galaxy watch? Meaning when I'm walking/running, I don't need to carry my iphone/android. Just listen to music, attend calls directly? Thank you
@DrCliffAud is this the hearing aid for central auditory processing disorder?
I bought a Phonak L getting them on
Dec 13th. Hopefully I will like them.
I totally agree, we need to be able to go to a replaceable battery.
I have the P70 with the custom molded earpiece and they keep coming loose in my ear, I have to keep pushing them in or I get feedback
Could that be because the cable connecting it to the receiver is too short? I ask because that cable was quite a bit longer on my old Phonaks (which did not have the molded earpice)
Thx
Phonak know that the act e vent, being mechanical is prone to blocking from ear wax. If you choose the active vent you are setting your self up with a RIC that requires maintenance about every 6 months. An audiologist will need to clean out the vents.
The down side of the active vent is that because its an actual electromagnetic actuator that physically opens and shuts the vent it is very much prone to blockage and failure from cerumen / ear wax build up. If you go with this option you WILL be up for regular maintenance. You'll need to go back to the audiologist to get the vents cleaned out. If you try doing it yourself, you risk further impaction abs damage to the venting mechanism. It's a known issue for the Phonak. YMMV but my take was not to choose this option purely from a reliability point of view. The last thing I need is fragile technology.
Audiologist here! Can I ask, which brand do you use for AmpCROS? thanks!
Dr. Cliff, One thought on battery life: For these hearing aids, when someone uses the TV connector heavily, that is also "streaming", and heavily reduces the battery life of these hearing aids. I had to change to Paradise battery version, or mine would be dead by 3:30 PM, with usage starting at 7:00 am. This was a mix of Bluetooth and TV streaming.
My grandfather also had a similar experience with his Marvel. He uses Bluetooth way less, but watches TV almost all day (retired). His would die by 4:30 to 5:00 on most days.
Would not bring up previous models but for the fact that Phonak did not promote any kind of increased battery life on the Paradise from Marvel, or on the Lumity from the Paradise models.
Any thoughts on this? It is not quite accurate to say that most users will get all day usage, assuming they get even 1 TV link to go with their aids. If they had no Bluetooth, and didn't use TV link, then it is likely they wouldn't have issues, but why buy these hearing aids if the features aren't being used?
Thank you for such an informative video! I need to purchase a cross hearing aid (first time wearing aids). Is the Lumity 90 a cross aid or is my only option the Paradise from Phonak? Thank you SO much!
You'll have to go with the Paradise model if you need CROS.
I would like to try the Roger ON before buying. Are there any demo options or is there a satisfaction guarantee if they don’t work for my situation?
All accessories typically come with a 30 day trial period.
How to enable motion sensor functionality like you mentioned ? There is nothing on Phonak app.
On your video about “coolest hearing aid features” you speak of the Phonak Active Vent Receiver being one of those “cool” features. In talking about this feature you mention that the best way to get the greatest advantage of this feature is to get custom ear molds. In this current video you show that the recharging cases for the Audeo Lumity do not have enough room to store ear molds. Is there a solution to this conundrum for the person who wants the Audeo Lumity hearing aids using Active Vent Receivers with custom ear molds?
Hey cliff what is that tiny slit in the bottom of the lumity when you hold it up to the camera?
MAJOR BATTERY UPDATE: After returning my Lumity Life for only giving me 14 hours battery life on the left and 18 on the right. Yesterday I received a new pair of Lumity Life and it confirms that my first set were DEFECTIVE. At this very moment I am at 6% on the Right at just over 20 hours and 11% at on the left. That should give me about 20.5 plus hours max on the right and probably 21 or more hours on the left. I am very pleased.
I also had to return my Lumity Life 90s as I only got 6 hours on the right and 15-16 on the left. I get the new ones programmed with real ear measurements in a couple of days. The difference between my former HIS and my new AuD is night and day!
@@OcalaBrew Very disconcerting in the area of QUALITY CONTROL. Or the fact that there isn't any.
I upgraded from the l30 to l90 its a game changer i would never go back
I currently have a Phonak Audeo M90-R (Marvel), Is it worth upgrading to Lumity? I have severe hearing loss
Also which smart tv is best to connect directly to a hearing aid without buying the TV connector
Hey Doc!
Good Content as usual, but I have a request. How about an update on this review. I'm thinking of getting these with the Bi/Cros combo platter.
Your Thoughts.
Thanks, RJ
Just saw this video, well done. Trying to decide between the Lumity 70 and Signia Pure Charge&go IX. You didn't mention anything about tinnitus masking with this device. As such, I'm assuming it's not available. Can you confirm?
Tinnitus Masking is available in this device as well.
Thank you so much for your videos. Will you ever create a video that reviews hearing aid providers like FitHearing (who offer telehealth audiology) and ZipHearing (who work with specific local audiologists)? I know you never talk about pricing but do you think buying hearing aids this way is undesirable? They sure save you a lot of money (around $3,800 for a lumity r90 in the case of FitHearing and $2,400 in the case of ZipHearing)!
L90 at ZipHearing is $4,598!
How can we change volume with side buttons. I donot have remote. Kindly advise
I'm glad Dr. Cliff spoke up for disposable battery HAs. I am no longer working in Law Enforcement, but rechargeable HAs just aren't an option when you work in jobs that can put you working 16 hours in a day. 12 hour shift, then having to stick around to cover a call out, or working an off-duty detail will stretch you to 16 hours. You need to wear them to and from work and be able to 'exist' before and after work as well. Until a rechargeable can go 24+ with full use (to include streaming), a disposable battery model is just necessary. Since I'm medically retired now, rechargeable HAs are probably viable for me, but they just wouldn't be if I was working. 15% loss in client base is millions of dollars, and all for disposable batteries? Doesn't seem well thought out, or too assumptive that everyone will just go to rechargeable HAs. 12 hour shift work people typically work more alert based jobs, such as policing, nursing, factory and so on, so even the potential of your HA losing battery while working is not a good spot to be in. I always carried a full wheel (8 batteries) on me when I was working simply for assurances. There was always a full wheel in my agency vehicle and personally owned vehicle as well. Yes, rechargeable HAs have come a long way since they first came out, but the current latest and greatest is still 16 hours, and I've worked enough 16 hour days to know that this won't cut it for many professionals. Phonak should be considering these shift-work professionals (and their potential 15% loss of clients) before just planting their flag on the recharge feature. Don't be the Cali EV of HAs - at least not yet.
Most new ha do 20+ hours with no problem and Widex just launched a model with 30+ hours of use the Moment S
Anyway disposable batteries still have their spot but they are shrinking more and more since the batteries are getting better and better
@@diu7 30 hours sounds very nice. I think most are still boasting 16 hours with streaming, 24 without. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with a 30 hour battery, for sure. I came from Widex, trialed some Oticons, but Phonak had the Bluetooth connectivity between ITE half shelf to the device itself, without needing a connector piece, so I made the move to Phonak. I won't wear BTE, so I'm all about what is available in ITE half shell. Looks like these newest Phonak don't even have ITE models, nor do they intend to. I'm still on a fairly new Virto M70, so I'm set for the next few years. Thanks for the message.
@@diu7 really?
I can't give you enough likes for you comment. ! Thank you. I work 13 hours shifts and I can't be dependent on some 'rechargable~ device. PHONAK - we need batteries operated HA`
@@mariaj9235 🤣 ah that's right they're only in the rechargeable department
Hi Doctor. I have a Specic need. I lost one ear and I use a croos sistem . Good for speach, but I need something more Specific for music and concert listening with the best sound quality possible to my best ear that is, say it, at 50%of a normal level. So my big question is: HA would be the best one to music listening spcificaly ? Resound, Phonak, other ? There is some apparel Specific to music ? Thank you very much. Joao bCorrea
I have a profound loss and wear a full ear mold. Was thinking about this model, until you showed how little room was available for the ear molds inside the charger. Wearing Widex aids with batteries. Any suggestions for newer aids? Thanks.
I’m in a similar situation. I have widex now with custom molds.
Improvements in intelligibility are always welcome especially if you have a serious hearing loss. This latest hearing aid has an overall intelligibility improvement of 11%. While significant, more improvement is needed in this area. What are the chances of greater improvement within the next 5 years?
I am in the process of getting Lumity hearing aids. I suffer with Meneares and tinnitus what model in the Lumity line would you recommend for my situation. My audiologist believes the 70 or the 50 model would be best. I have never worn hearing aids before. Thanks, Doc
I would go with the 90 level if you can afford it. I always recommend you go with the highest level you can reasonably afford, otherwise there is the potential that you could be leaving benefit on the table.
Dr. Cliff, thanks for much for doing these videos. I find them to very informative. I am looking at the Lumity Life L90 possibly for my next hearing aids. I do have a question concerning them. Since they have Bluetooth Classic and can be paired to a Smart TV like my Samsung why would I need to get their streamer? Thanks, Paul
They make money selling those accessory!
Without the "TV Connector" your TV will ONLY stream over Bluetooth; the TV's speakers will be muted, and your spouse will hear nothing.
I am currently wearing phonak marvel from pre-pandemic. I didn’t wear them for a couple of years because you can always increase volume on Zoom. Now I am needing to go back in person, so started wearing the hearing aids again. I watched your video on Earlens. If money were not a concern, would you go with Lumity or EarLens? Thank you for all of the information you provide.
Really depends on your specific wants and needs.
Thank you for responding so quickly. I want to hear conversations better. As a trainer, I need to hear questions and conversations from all parts of a large room. I would like to experience less in the way of “sharp” sounds from rustling paper or iPhone notifications.
@@carolhaynes5418 you'll have to have your Hearing Care Provider to adjust the settings for you. It shouldn't be an issue.
What do you recommend if you need a cross? You indicate the Phonak :umity does not have that feature. Deaf in one ear and moderate loss in good ear.
Do you know if the speech sensor and stereo zoom will be in the kids version... Lumity sky
Any idea if they will be making in the ear versions? I have phonak b90 titaniums (around 4- 5 years old now) and i'm looking to upgrade, i work a lot with ear defenders and generally prefer the iic fittings.
They will, it will just take a while.
@@DrCliffAuD thanks 👍
Great review, thanks. I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of my new Lumity Life, my first ever hearing aids..
You'll love them if they are programmed properly!
@@DrCliffAuD They arrived. I go Monday for them and my fitting. Dr. Seldine is in your HearingUp network. So, I'm sure they will be programmed properly. Thanks
I was just at Seldine’s office (Delray Beach), also found him through Dr. Cliffs network. I guess you are the person Dr. Seldine mentioned getting the Lumity. Give us an update of the device please.
@@basa820 I wish I good give a really good update, but these are my first ever HA, I'm only one week in and still very much to getting used to having things in my ear. I'm still learning how to put the damned things in my ears! Several functions are not yet enabled for me. We dont want to overwhelm my brain with new functions and sounds. I know I need at least another month for my brain to get used to the sounds again. I'm clearly hearing things I haven't heard in years. Lots of small planes nearby overhead, echo's outside when I clap for my dog to come. Restaurants can be a challenge but last nights restaurant was fine. Like I said, I'm still adjusting. I do have one big concern which I will be addressing today at my appointment. I believe my batteries are defective. With virtually no streaming I only get 13-14 hours on my left HA. I get about 18 on the right, which still way under spec. I'll post you a follow up and keep you informed. If we get the battery thing taken care I would say these things are amazing. Including talking to Siri by tapping my ear or talking on the phone hands free.
@@gbkworf Battery is a big thing for me too as I travel for business and sometimes at client’s site from 8am then out for dinner till about 9-10pm. I would really need a little more than 12 hours to get by the whole day when traveling. My main reason for looking at Phonak was the Bluetooth hands free experience.
It seems that most of the improvements over the paradise are reserved for the 90 and 70 levels. If one is going with the 50 or 30 levels, is it still worth going for lumity over the paradise? If so, why?
Did you came to a conclusion?
It isn't clear, but does the Lumity HA allow for a BTE earmold or just RIC? And with my single-sided hearing loss an NO CROS yet, is there any value to StereoZoom feature, since I would only have ONE hearing aid?
The Lumity Is RIC type. There’s other BTE models from phonak
I'm in the mist of a Phonac trial right now. I have to say Audeo Lumity Life P90 tech out preforms Vitro Paradise P90 by a significant margin. I'm having more trouble with the fit on Lumity Life by the sound performance is astonishing and beats Paradise by no small margin in my opinion. As far as fit, my ear canals have a sharp hook so using silicone domes did not work on the recievers. They made custom molds but something still isn't right on the right side so they need to go back again to remake the right side. I found the Virtos are more comfortable and fit better.
So my perfect HA's would be Virto with Lumity tech but those are a year or more out, if at all.
Once they get the custom mold made to fit me well I'm going with the Audeo Lumity Life as the sound tech and BT functionality is astonishing!
Does the new charging case fit old hearing aids? I have the Audeo P90-R and have hated the charger since day 1. Would the new charger work with Audeo P?
No, the new charger is not compatible the Paradise devices. Except for the Charger Case Go for the Paradise Life.
Great review Sir!; just a quick question, have you done any studies on how these aids work / improve tinnitus ??? Cheers
Like most hearing aids, ~60-70% of individuals experience a decline in tinnitus by using hearing aids alone.
Thank you @@DrCliffAuD
I have had my Lumity hearing aids for less than two months and I’m on my third pair. The Bluetooth only works when the phone is in front of my chest. Kind of defeats the purpose. First pair kept freezing up. Trying to find a different manufacturer to go with
Hi. From where I can get more info about Audeo L70 r?
Thanks
Hello, someone knows if I buy a Phonak L30 online, I still will be able to configure properly, I.ll seek professional help to do that, but my question is, Do I will have the program to give my therapist so he will be able to do it? Or I need buy from someone who has some sort of software, Im looking this for my mum, so I don't know much. Thanks
1. The platform chip is the same as paradise I think. 2. The brain/system has been changed to auto sense5. 3. Most probably will move from paradise to lumity life. 4. Could the paradise have incorporated the improved directionality and speech in noise algorithms is an open question. 5. If you are using a roger on accessory having directionality with a paradise would a lumity be required is an open question. 6. Wish HAs could pair with more than one roger accessory as I feel roger select is a better table microphone and roger on for directionality. 7. Anyway if there is superior hearing of conversation in both noisy and calm situations as claimed I will incur the expense and move from paradise to lumity even if it costs, tough luck but if you want technological innovation then pay for it. Like there is no free lunch so also there is no free hearing for the deaf. 8. Thanks Phonak keep making the best so Life is better.
I have a question, do you by any chance have a personal preference for the Phonak Lumity hearing aids or the Oticon More Hearing Aids?
I would be interested in this
@@tonyperri3874 Me too
me too
I started out with phonak bte hearing aids when I was little,. But i hated them and never wore them because of how they looked,.. the sound quality was good,.. I was just embarrassed of how they looked,.. I then tried the lyric in the beginning of this year and loved the sound quality of them but unfortunately wasn’t a candidate in the end,.. I then tried IIC hearing aids from starkey and hated them.. I now have the phonak Audeo lumity and they great devices,.. Never tried oticon or widex but out of the phonak, starkey and resound, ive only had luck with the lumity’s
I just had a consultation with my audiologist who asked me if I want one hearing aid or two. I have several loss on one side and almost normal on the other. I tried out the luminity RL. The one side improved greatly. However I am still wondering if I should get both. and why would she try to talk me into just one?
Do you have normal hearing in one ear? If so, you only need one aid. If it is not normal, you should get 2.
I'll tell you a SECRET. If your voice is hard for the other person to hear, stay on bluetooth hands free streaming but hold your phone up to your ear normally just a little away from your ear. Your voice will bounce off the phone and get directed into the aid's microphone. Just check with your Audiologist which aid is picking up your voice. Or rub a microphone and ask the caller which one sounds scratchier. This is the aid that picks up your voice.
Enjoy.
People are not having any issue with hearing me. They all say I sound great.!! Lumity Life
What hearing aids are best for hot humid weather? I moved 3 years ago from U.K. to Philippines and been wearing hearing aids for about 10 years.
I’d say Luminity Life.
Hey Brother- finally got my L90 R’s in this week. Do you have a video on the “proper” way to wear glasses with them and still be able to manipulate the buttons?
Thank you!!!
Yeah, I like to have my glasses touching my scalp, then my hearing aids, then my ear. I got slimmer glasses to help.
@@DrCliffAuD Thank you! I will try that because it felt too awkward the other way. LOL!
Does Lumity come in BiCros? R-80dB, L-110dB
if you are streaming something and your phone rings, what is the process for double tapping if you want to stop the streaming and answer the phone? Does one double tap do both?
I find that the incoming call interrupts the streaming (if your phone is already connected via bluetooth), so you just double tap to answer the call.
Thanks Dr. Cliff, that was very informative. Do you happen to know if the VA uses real ear measurement when they fit hearing aids or does it depend on which VA a veteran uses. I use the Boise VA and have been happy with the care I have gotten from them in the past.
I had REM done at the Murfreesboro TN VA when fitted.
@@DuffyF56 they did for me as well at the Boise VA when I was fitted for the new Phonak Lumity hearing aids which I think I am going to be impressed with once they do a few minor adjustments.
@@watermain48 Let me know how you like them. I may be getting a back up pair of HA's through the VA and I might choose to go with the Lumity Life as opposed to the Paradise I have now. I wish they had done a replacement battery version though. Want the Life version for the inductive battery recharging.
@@DuffyF56 So far I like them pretty well. I just got them a few days ago and I'm going back for some adjustments on Monday. I don't care for the charger, though. It's really small and doesn't store a few charges like the Starkey does, but oh well.
My father, who is 80+ age, has 95%loss on his right ear & 85 % loss on left
The audio tech suggested that anything above audeo 30 which is base level phone lumity will not make noticeable change for him. Could you advise if that’s true. Also suggest you create a video for the right hearing aid for b various kinds of hearing loss , those from light to severe
What about the cros over? Tcoil?
I have to say I like my first ever HA, the Lumity Life. I'm still adjusting to them. That said, I have one major concern. BATTERY LIFE. I only get 14 1/2 hours on one and about 17 hours on the other. I'm only streaming 15-20 minutes of phone calls. I thought I would get well over 20 hours with that, and get 24 hours without streaming and about 16 hours with 4-5 hours of streaming. Phonak tells me that just keeping them connected to Bluetooth all day is causing the battery drain. Do you have any information on this??? 14 hours is not all day use!!!
@@BertiesLoveChild I agree, the right is my primary. Thats why it's so confusing that it's my Left HA that gets hours less! I'm actually getting an estimated 4 hours more life on the right. I'm supposed to be getting new HA next week. I hope that fixes the issue. I would be very happy with 18 hours on both sides.
Agreed
My first set turned out to be defective, and were replaced for free by Phonak. I have been getting a good 18-20 hours or more with the new ones. Now, one year later I am noticing a couple hour degradation in them. Not totally unexpected. At some point, if the trend continues I will have my AUD send them back to Phonak for new batteries. That said, it's easy to do a top off later in the day while taking a rest or a shower if need be. @@gailsamuels7312