@@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956 people think if you don’t score 20+ ppg and are the primary or secondary scorer that you are a role player, that is so not true. Role players don’t get the amount of all star consideration as D White did
@@vulcanraven9701 agree to an extent. I think people just throw the term role player at someone who isn’t a primary shot creator, and in my opinion that’s just dead wrong
Yeah his massive pay increase was also because we wanted a bigger role in the offense, hes starting a little slow rn but he was amazing last year i hope that hammy injury dosent linger 🤞
It still makes me mad that the Lakers lost KCP to get Russell Westbrook after the 2020 finals. We lost a guy who fit perfectly for a guy who never fit from day one, and this was back before the apron clauses existed, so the Lakers would've actually afforded to pay him. I miss Alex Carusso too because his defense would've been a great thing to have if we kept him in 2023 during the WCF matchup with the Nuggets.
100% I feel like Jarrett Allen has to be in the convo. Dude is good for the locker room, is a double double every night, border line all star talent, defensive menace
I’ll always associate Derek White with the bloody smile after he smashed his mouth in the playoffs. That’s what it feels like when your team goes up against him lmao
Jarrett Allen. He’s an elite defender, good rebounder, and can crush the rim, but he doesn’t really generate his own offense at all (79% of his career FGs are assisted, more with Cleveland). But when he’s on the floor, the game shifts. He can guard basically anyone and puts himself in great spots like Aaron Gordon. Basically an ideal recipient for passes from the dunker’s spot, and has chemistry with all of Darius Garland, Donovan Mitchell, Evan Mobley, Max Strus, and Caris LeVert. Just a good player who is always ready.
What makes Derrick White so good in my eyes is that he plays the game like he can see the game in 3rd person. I’ve seen him make some big defensive plays most guys wouldn’t have the angle on but he somehow makes. I think it was against Derrick Liveky where he played the lob and the layup as a guard. That isn’t even common for bigs to do, Giannis won a finals off of performances like that, to have guys in that role as a role player is crazy fortunate for whoever has that guy.
If the plays and team don’t run thru you majority of the time, and/or you don’t guard the best player on the other team majority of the time, I think imma call you a role player
Its actually crazy how good that team is. Don't forget Hauser a really good 3 point shooter and Porzingis ain't even playing. D White, Porzingis and maybe even Jrue would all be all stars if they weren't on that Boston team, that team is actually so crazy good.
I feel like Steven Adams and is a great role player who fills in all the gaps! He’s an elite screen setter, rebounder, a consummate professional, and great locker room presence. I think Steven is a Top 10 role player in the league.
Caruso, Josh Hart i saw play in summer league. Really cool to see those guys thrive as role players for multiple teams now. Summer league in vegas is fun if you've never been. A box is super cheap, you get to watch multiple games, you might see a future nba champion, all star, or future all defensive players. Lol nobody on that pistons summer league team are in the nba anymore.
Aaron Gordon has to be my favourite and the best, hes not quite the defender jrue is but he is just as if not more versatile with his size. Plus, he is more fun to watch with his high flying dunks and he has a bit more offensive spark still left in him than holiday
I have an idea to throw in the hat of content idea like what if yall did career retrospectives over retired greats like mj,Kareem,Kobe, Tmac,Vince Carter, etc
I think 3 and D players are the most valuable role players in general. That’s why we see a lot of them winning multiple championships in multiple teams. Danny green, KCP and Jrue Holiday etc
Lowkey Keon Ellis should be on here. Kings generally struggled with defense but the Kings were a top 10 defense last year in minutes he played. Also he was responsible for the 0/10 play in Klay performance 😭
I’m surprised you guys haven’t made a video about Duck’s Football yet given they’re still undefeated and ranked number 1 in the country. Do you think they’ll win the national championship this year?
Imo it’s obviously Derrick White he does his job at an all star level it’s ridiculous but there’s guys like Herb Jones, Naz Reid, Kyle Anderson, Caruso, Mason Plumlee
derrick white is my favorite by far….he is the definition of “a bucket when you need one” any time it’s a close game…. expect caillou to come running down the court and make a bs three
1:19 Klay was a role player anyone who can’t be a franchise guy is a role player if you can’t be the one or two (basically the most important player) of a franchise you are a role player Steph and Dray then Klay
The wolves got some nice role players. Naz Donte McDaniels and Rudy to some. Thunder do too with the goat Alex and Isiah there now. Celtics still have the best tho unfortunately
Based off of these descriptions of a role player, then Kevin Durant would be the greatest role player of all time. He doesn't care to lead or galvanize the team, he just plays his role as The Scorer
Hear me out, Kevin Durant, I know he's a superstar but he fits the bill for a role player, good enough defensively, (for a superstar where it's outshined by his offensive output) and he doesn't necessarily have a way to guard him, he's just an unbelievably good scorer, off catch and shoots, off screens, he's a borderline role player
Role players are not usually the primary or one of the primary offensive options on a team. Durant has been in that position for the majority of his career compared to actual role players.
11:26 Sorry, but the comparison is completely off. Rodman has been many things, but definitely not a role player. There are some who make it to the All-Star game, but as a role player, like Jrue Holiday or Derrick White, you can't just waltz into the Basketball Hall of Fame. Keep it up and greetings from Germany!
I don't think Jrue applies here because realistically he's not a roleplayer, just on a good team. 2 time champ, 2 time gold medalist, multi-time all star and all defensive player, if he gets one more ring I think it's no question HOF
@kennn30 In my opinion, he has no place in the Hall of Fame. When you think of the best 237 players of all time, do you think of Jrue Holiday? He is an above-average player, especially defensively, but for the NBA Hall of Fame, you need more than 16 PPG. Overall, his role on the respective teams that have won was not significant enough."
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The “REDACTED” box over Divencenzo was fucking perfect you guys are hilarious
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The biased Wolves fan in me say Naz Reid 🐺💙💚but the objective side of me say Derrick White 🍀
Naz Reid 👍
DW just does so much of the little things and they add up so fast, you just have to deem him the best role player bru he’s just too impactful
i feel like i never see any other actual wolves fans, just bandwagon wolves/ant fans that kinda annoyed me tbh during the playoffs
Its quite comfortably D White, if we are talking about true role players
D White is not a role player oh my god. He’s a core piece
@@generalgrievous8805you do t know what role player means
@@generalgrievous8805 role players can be core pieces.
@@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956 people think if you don’t score 20+ ppg and are the primary or secondary scorer that you are a role player, that is so not true. Role players don’t get the amount of all star consideration as D White did
@@vulcanraven9701 agree to an extent. I think people just throw the term role player at someone who isn’t a primary shot creator, and in my opinion that’s just dead wrong
As a Raptors fan, OG Anonouby's defense is amazing and his offense is underrated.
Yeah his massive pay increase was also because we wanted a bigger role in the offense, hes starting a little slow rn but he was amazing last year i hope that hammy injury dosent linger 🤞
As a kicks fan, have to agree
Is he a role player though?
Bronny james
FACT.
He’s ass
Legoat jr
He aint a roleplayer bozo he is literally carring la tf u mean
I like Bronny more than his dad, so I'm not gonna disagree
My favorite is definitely Aaron Gordon. I love what he brings to the Nuggets and he fits so well with them.
Jokic is the only real star on the team but yes Gordon is versatile and a great role player
It still makes me mad that the Lakers lost KCP to get Russell Westbrook after the 2020 finals. We lost a guy who fit perfectly for a guy who never fit from day one, and this was back before the apron clauses existed, so the Lakers would've actually afforded to pay him. I miss Alex Carusso too because his defense would've been a great thing to have if we kept him in 2023 during the WCF matchup with the Nuggets.
This is why you don't let LeBron make GM decisions.
Westbrook was on the lakers during the 2021-2022 season. The real L was the Lakers losing Javale McGee and Dwight Howard in the 2020 offseason.
100% I feel like Jarrett Allen has to be in the convo. Dude is good for the locker room, is a double double every night, border line all star talent, defensive menace
We should start a petition to get 6:58 as the new NBA logo
I’ll always associate Derek White with the bloody smile after he smashed his mouth in the playoffs. That’s what it feels like when your team goes up against him lmao
Jarrett Allen. He’s an elite defender, good rebounder, and can crush the rim, but he doesn’t really generate his own offense at all (79% of his career FGs are assisted, more with Cleveland). But when he’s on the floor, the game shifts. He can guard basically anyone and puts himself in great spots like Aaron Gordon. Basically an ideal recipient for passes from the dunker’s spot, and has chemistry with all of Darius Garland, Donovan Mitchell, Evan Mobley, Max Strus, and Caris LeVert. Just a good player who is always ready.
all-star
All star ain't a role player
@@kjjr3270bad metric to use for a role player. JA is most definitely a role player
P.j washington but y‘all aint ready for that convo
i was looking for this one. He averaged 18 and 8 in that OKC series.
who? the son of Derrick White?
Got that Vince McMahon “he was special” tear in my eye when I think of OKC series PJ Washington, him and Derrick Jones Jr.🥲
What makes Derrick White so good in my eyes is that he plays the game like he can see the game in 3rd person. I’ve seen him make some big defensive plays most guys wouldn’t have the angle on but he somehow makes. I think it was against Derrick Liveky where he played the lob and the layup as a guard. That isn’t even common for bigs to do, Giannis won a finals off of performances like that, to have guys in that role as a role player is crazy fortunate for whoever has that guy.
Thanks again for Josh Hart guys
If Derrick White is considered a role player, damn
He’s 100% a role player
He is a role player never averaged more than 20 and never made an all star game or all nba
He's pretty much contributing a lot, like even more than jrue or Al, sometimes the Jays.
@@anemoium1 he’s not a star bro eve. If he’s marginally better than those guys
If the plays and team don’t run thru you majority of the time, and/or you don’t guard the best player on the other team majority of the time, I think imma call you a role player
Boston also have Pritchard the best heave shooter in the league that can also randomly drop 25+ it seems now
Its actually crazy how good that team is. Don't forget Hauser a really good 3 point shooter and Porzingis ain't even playing. D White, Porzingis and maybe even Jrue would all be all stars if they weren't on that Boston team, that team is actually so crazy good.
Great video guys. Absolutely enjoyed watching
"Technically we did"😂😂
I feel like Steven Adams and is a great role player who fills in all the gaps!
He’s an elite screen setter, rebounder, a consummate professional, and great locker room presence.
I think Steven is a Top 10 role player in the league.
D-White and Jrue my boys! ☘🏆🥇
Caruso, Josh Hart i saw play in summer league. Really cool to see those guys thrive as role players for multiple teams now.
Summer league in vegas is fun if you've never been. A box is super cheap, you get to watch multiple games, you might see a future nba champion, all star, or future all defensive players.
Lol nobody on that pistons summer league team are in the nba anymore.
As a Warriors fan, our depth is insane this year and I’m hyped
Idk avout current but all time Greatest Roleplayer of all time is Robert Horry. More rings than all GOATS not named Bill Russell.
Of all the time
we talking about current though
@@mekacrab I mean that's why I specified all time. I'll make it clearer though👍
@@BrandonWhatTheF nah I got that part, it just feels irrelevant to the video that's all.
@@mekacrab blud just hating at this point
Aaron Gordon has to be my favourite and the best, hes not quite the defender jrue is but he is just as if not more versatile with his size. Plus, he is more fun to watch with his high flying dunks and he has a bit more offensive spark still left in him than holiday
I have an idea to throw in the hat of content idea like what if yall did career retrospectives over retired greats like mj,Kareem,Kobe, Tmac,Vince Carter, etc
Did they redact Donte?😂😂😂
I think 3 and D players are the most valuable role players in general. That’s why we see a lot of them winning multiple championships in multiple teams. Danny green, KCP and Jrue Holiday etc
White just always makes the right play at the right time. He's Ol' Reliable
I love yall's videos
Lowkey Keon Ellis should be on here. Kings generally struggled with defense but the Kings were a top 10 defense last year in minutes he played. Also he was responsible for the 0/10 play in Klay performance 😭
He doesn’t even play anymore
i love zo he fills his role amazingly
Imo a role player is a the 3rd option down on offense & a specialist on offense/defense
Was hoping to see Malik Monk on this list. So underrated and he would’ve won 6th man instead of Naz Reid if he didn’t get injured.
Derrick White is basically becoming Manu Ginobli or Vinnie the Microwave where they legit starting on other teams but role
I’m surprised you guys haven’t made a video about Duck’s Football yet given they’re still undefeated and ranked number 1 in the country. Do you think they’ll win the national championship this year?
Draymond Green has been the premiere role player for the past decade.
Once you get back from vacation, how about a video on the greatest role players in NBA history like Udonis Haslem and Robert Horry.
11:53 “In a big game situation, I want him on my team” Funny thing is, he was suppose to be on your team 😂
Yeah but the Blazers haven’t played a big game in a solid 3 years so it just wasn’t a fit 🫠
@@synthetic_sports Oh yeah... forgot about that.
Derrick White is an all star if you actually watch him play, you dont know how good he is that aint a roleplayer
He is. Boston is just stacked
Not your average role player i agree, but he is still one. The best one in the league though, quite comfortably.
The Celtics are so stacked so if they go back to back then I wouldn’t be surprised
Got to be either Gordon or White
very biased as a thunder fan but watch out for cason wallace. dude is the real deal. he'll probably start at the 2 next season.
Honorable mention Bruce brown
Forgot Kevon Looney. Humble worker.
Prime Klay was basically if a regular 3&D role player went super Saiyan.
Probably the last place I excepted a Yu Gi Oh reference
Have a great trip all
Is it lowkey Naz Reid? Man's been COOKING for the last 3 or so years.
Jrue holiday or derrick white would by far be the best player on the blazers stop disrespecting them
Imo it’s obviously Derrick White he does his job at an all star level it’s ridiculous but there’s guys like Herb Jones, Naz Reid, Kyle Anderson, Caruso, Mason Plumlee
I was gonna be real upset if this list did not include Josh Hart.
9:20 🤣🤣🤣🤣 bro did donte dirty
derrick white would not be a role player on any other team. neither is Jrue Holiday, just look at him in milwaukee.
And especially New Orleans
derrick white is my favorite by far….he is the definition of “a bucket when you need one” any time it’s a close game…. expect caillou to come running down the court and make a bs three
I’ve heard people argue KD is a role player, so you know what.
KD is the best role player in the NBA
Those people are idiots. Name a role player who has had anything close to the career that he has had. You can't because none have.
Then their argument is flawed, how tf is a former MVP a roleplayer
Idk whos the best one, but i fricking love Caruso man
Really? Timberwolves going to the finals with Randle? You are joking. Lol
Luka playing tht open gym defense 😂
9:10Happy late Halloween
Derrick White is like the Celtic’s version of Tony Parker
The savior of basketball: Aaron Wiggins
Norman Powell, Divencenzo, Buddy
yugioh reference W
1:19 Klay was a role player anyone who can’t be a franchise guy is a role player if you can’t be the one or two (basically the most important player) of a franchise you are a role player Steph and Dray then Klay
Calling two olympians role players is crazy
Olympics and nba are different
Well, when both were chosen over better guards specifically for their defensive presence, yeah, I'd say they are role players
The real question is who’s the best role player ever? Dennis Johnson? Robert Horry? Maybe even a Steve Kerr?
All Steve Kerr did was shoot, much more versatile options
Respect Ogugua Anunoby Junior
The best 3 and D player is statistically and even on the eye test KCP
LeBron James
he's not the best one though
@@mekacrabHe ain't one.
@@urbaindelva7869 Yes, he ain't number one.
Lehater
In my clearly unbiased opinion, it's Jrue Holiday.
Without a doubt it's Derrick White.
The wolves got some nice role players. Naz Donte McDaniels and Rudy to some. Thunder do too with the goat Alex and Isiah there now. Celtics still have the best tho unfortunately
Buddy Hield will prove everyone wrong this season!
Jayson Tatum
Laughable.
shut up bozo
Based off of these descriptions of a role player, then Kevin Durant would be the greatest role player of all time. He doesn't care to lead or galvanize the team, he just plays his role as The Scorer
Then why is he still expected to lead a team even in his declining years? Because he AIN'T a role player. Role players do not get that responsibility.
Wouldn’t consider Derrick White a role player. He plays as many minutes as Tatum and Brown and is a borderline all star
RYAN DUNN YOU ARE A PHOENIX SUN
Lindy waters
Before watching vid: Naz Reid
I want IGUODALA
Malcolm Brogdon
I still can't believe The Bucks got rid of Bud and Jrue.
There were reasons for that. Disagree with them all you want, but there were reasons for that.
Zubac for the clippers
Jamal Murray and MPJ
OG Anunoby
Maaan I'm a Lakers die hard and i still hate we let go of the Carushow
they ain't even try to run that championship team back healthy, hit the panic button immediately
Hear me out, Kevin Durant, I know he's a superstar but he fits the bill for a role player, good enough defensively, (for a superstar where it's outshined by his offensive output) and he doesn't necessarily have a way to guard him, he's just an unbelievably good scorer, off catch and shoots, off screens, he's a borderline role player
Role players are not usually the primary or one of the primary offensive options on a team. Durant has been in that position for the majority of his career compared to actual role players.
We will not be hearing you out. What the actual fuck are you talking about
I’m a lakers fan (hate bron ruined our young core) but Derrick white is the best by far
D white is no role player in my eyes he giving u 16 and 5 with elite defense nahhhhh he not on the list
11:26 Sorry, but the comparison is completely off. Rodman has been many things, but definitely not a role player. There are some who make it to the All-Star game, but as a role player, like Jrue Holiday or Derrick White, you can't just waltz into the Basketball Hall of Fame.
Keep it up and greetings from Germany!
I don't think Jrue applies here because realistically he's not a roleplayer, just on a good team. 2 time champ, 2 time gold medalist, multi-time all star and all defensive player, if he gets one more ring I think it's no question HOF
@kennn30 In my opinion, he has no place in the Hall of Fame. When you think of the best 237 players of all time, do you think of Jrue Holiday? He is an above-average player, especially defensively, but for the NBA Hall of Fame, you need more than 16 PPG. Overall, his role on the respective teams that have won was not significant enough."
12:40 😂🤣😂🤣💀💀💀
Yeah Derrick white is by far the best 3 and D player in the league
Bulls fan here….we aren’t mad we traded Caruso we are made how dumb the trade was. We got no picks and just giddy? Fuck no
Has to be Bobby Portis
These mfs make everything about the blazers 💀
Naz mfin Reid
So anyone on the 2019 Lakers
denis rodman, a roleplayer?? hell nah
Yall are sleeping on Herb Jones bro
Lebron