Inside the Bryan Kohberger Case with Two Renowned Authors and Idaho’s 2X Journalist of the Year
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Welcome to another episode of Surviving The Survivor, the podcast that brings you the #BestGuests in all of True Crime…
Back in June, a judge laid out a plan for Bryan Kohberger, the man suspected of fatally stabbing four University of Idaho students in 2022, to stand trial starting in June 2025.
The Latah County Court confirmed to NBC News the trial was scheduled to start on June 2, 2025.
During a hearing on Thursday, June 27, Latah County District Judge John C. Judge said he expected the trial to take around three months, including sentencing if Kohberger was convicted.
#BestGuests:
Two-time Idaho reporter of the year Kevin Fixler is an investigative reporter with the Idaho Statesman. He earned this distinction, in large part because of his incomparable work on the Moscow murders. He’s been following the gruesome story from the very beginning, and even traveled to Kohberger’s hometown in Pennsylvania.
Howard Blum is an American author and journalist. Formerly a reporter for The Village Voice and The New York Times, Blum is a contributing editor at Vanity Fair and the author of several non-fiction books, including the New York Times bestseller and Edgar Award winner American Lightning.
His most recent book “When the Night Comes Falling” takes an in-depth look at the Idaho 4 murders.
J Reuben Appelman’s latest book, While Idaho Slept, tells the horrific story of the University of Idaho murders that gripped the world's attention from Moscow, Idaho in November of 2022.
J. Reuben Appelman’s true-crime crime memoir, The Kill Jar, was published by Gallery/Simon & Schuster (2018) and was among the first of the new true-crime memoir genre. Published in all formats, The Kill Jar inspired the popular Hulu docuseries, “Children of the Snow” (2020), with Appelman serving as on-camera investigator and Executive Producer. The TV Series based on Appelman’s book has streamed tens of millions of times in America and abroad, and The Kill Jar was noted as among the best true-crime books of the year by The New York Times Book Review, Elle, Oxygen, Bustle, Crime Reads, and the USA Today network of newspapers.
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I find it ironic that Blum is accusing others of being "all about the money", while he himself rushed the cash grab line and is now boasting about it and congratulating himself. Just feels icky and hypocritical to me. Sorry, not a fan.
He also cannot wait his turn to talk. So annoying!
I do sooo agree...
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I think Howard Blum no matter what he has done that had any credibility will NOW forever be known as the guy who "rushed to judgement" and wrote a book that incriminates a suspect after he has been convicted of the actual crimes in a court of law....BAD JOURNALISM
Not any other, he accuses one of the family victims!! Can you imagine how sick that was? I say that's a big red flag that tells us about him!! I hope they sue him. What a jerk
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That’s a sign of narcissism.
I'd prefer not to hear from Blum in the future if he continues to denigrate Mr. Goncalves. He should also learn to pronounce his name.
So right u are , god bless .
Blum left a horrible taste in my mouth by saying Steve Goncalves is just mad because he didn’t get to make the money that Blum did first. The only person who should be rightfully “profiting off” of this tragedy are the victims families, not a random author grasping at straws in order to make a quick buck before anyone else could.
Agree he’s a horrible, self serving, vile man
But it is okay for him to make money off Stsve Goncalves murdered daughter and 3 other families murdered children.
Oh my God I’m so glad you said this! I’m listening to this driving home from work and I couldn’t believe my ears! The families of the victims are only angry because he’s making more money off this tragedy than they are?! Don’t even mention that it’s, in my opinion, pretty disgusting profiting from another’s’ tragedy. If my daughter was murdered and someone was profiteering from it, I’d be ropable!
@@suepinakis3031 Absolutely agree!! I was stunned to hear him speak so flippantly.
couldn't agree more! How dare he take the stand that he did...just gross.
Not nice to come after Steve g .. that man deserves an award for being a dad that fought hard because he wanted answers. He lost his daughter and still fronted the media asking questions and showing such courage. Blum should not diss him.
I love STS Nation so much and I appreciate this interview. I do have to say that Howard Blum's comments are gross and leave me feeling very uncomfortable. I will NEVER buy his book. He doesn't have a right to say what he's said about that family, it's gross. And his "empathy" for the Goncalves family did not seem genuine. Sorry, not sorry.
I feel the same way. I have followed this case from the start. Blum is completely off on his comments about Kaylees family.
Nasty human being not to mention unprofessional beyond words
It so annoys me that even after writing that book and countless interviews, Mr Blum still cannot pronounce their name right, so disrespectful. There's not one interview of him out there where he pronounces the name correctly, not one! It's Goncalves Mr Blum!!!
I don’t think people should write books about a crime before the trial.
Agreed. At least wait until all the facts are out and a verdict is reached.
Blume can’t even pronounce their names & his comments on Steve are disgraceful, never ever gonna buy his book, he has no sympathy at all, he’s self serving only.
And he claimed Madison was targeted and stalked at the Mad Greek restaurant, yet he had no clue if it was Vegan, Vegan Option or whatever type of restaurant, lazy journalism to cash in.
I’d only buy the victims family if they should write about there experience of what they have experienced.
@@nikkimclay5474 yeah, him sitting there chewing on his glasses acting like a famous novelist quite humorous...
@@MikedeGarry KG got her face bashed in, golf club? Different wounds than a knife according to both coronor and Steve G
@@jamesBrian-lu4kj Not being sarcastic, but can you tell me, how did you learn this information from Steve G? Does he have a website? I would like to hear from him but really do not know where to look. (I hope it is not FB as I avoid that platform.) Thank you.
Blum's arrogance and lack of sensitivity is bordering on narcissistic. Has he donated the money he recieved to the victims families. If not he's the money grabber profiting from the tragedy of others.
I won't be buying his book or any future mediocre novels he publishes.
Why is Howard allowed to interrupt everyone and talk on and on. Everyone should have a chance to speak without being interrupted
Cuz he's got a book to sell! 😂 what a jerk!
He’s awful
I dont understand Blum. He basically wrote a book, of fiction, "if he did it". Problem is, we have already heard about every single onr of his suppositions from the media. How is this a book of any value?
Bc it makes him money.
I didn't care for his implications that Goncalves' father was looking to profit off his daughter's murder.
@@Bevaboo I would agree. I would also agree about the comment made about Mr. Goncalves. I think that his intention, although he did it to himself, was not really how it came out.
@@45squarehis book is totally wrong
Right I've not read his book but I've heard some excerpts and seems to me most of it is hypothetical and flat out made up.
Blum is insufferable! Best sellers are based on bookstore orders and not actual sales to the public.
Bookstores order books then send any back that don't end up being purchased.
I am so incredibly disappointed with STS that Blum was allowed to make such insensitive remarks about the family of one of the victims - particularly given it was clearly self serving. He is the one chasing the money.
Ted Bundy slayed and injured many in one dorm house late at nite in Fla. back in the day..quickly, and alone
Blum comes across as a rather unsavoury sleazeball
That's because he is a sleazeball reptile.
What Blum doesn't get, is that Mr Goncalves had a RIGHT to the money from the story of his murdered daughter and her bff. I can't believe how money blind Blum is. The Goncalves family has suffered an unspeakable loss, that probably has made it hard for them to earn enough money to live on! How many days do they spend unable to do anything?? If you weren't heartless, you would give all of the proceeds to that family. Or he would've let them go first if that's what they wanted.
And we expect nothing more from NYT. They sold out awhile ago.
23 and Me won't let law enforcement use it.
💯%!!
It's actually disgusting that he said the family is just mad they aren't making the money he is. Really horrible thing to say! Here's the thing, the families want nothing more than for there daughter, or son to be ALIVE. They lost a piece of themselves, and you say it's only about the money for them? I don't like this guy. Seriously a totally horrific thing to say!
Appelman’s book was very well done. He’s such a humble guy.
I do not like this Blum guy. He shouldn’t be bashing the victim’s father/family. Her family is mad over money???? Are you kidding me? Their child was murdered. That’s what they care about! This guy is all about the money. Trying to be the first one out to write a book & make money. Also, there’s a difference between reporting a story as it unfolds & writing a book.(before the story is done unfolding)IMO
Well said👏👏
If you can't take the heat, don't write the book. Did you think people were going to send you flowers.
Why follow him cross country, just arrest him in Pullman??
The books have tainted the entire countrys potential jurors.
They didn't have his DNA yet in Pullman that's why.
Huge red flag…for someone who’s written a book, Blum sure makes a lot of errors when speaking about the murders.
The only evidence they claim they have is sheath with DNA, there is zero other evidence. The Idaho cop testified they do not have kohbergers car on video.
Gawd knows why you even give that Blum guy air time..
Nancy Grace too, she seems enamored by him. I thought she would tear his type apart
Brian said that he was out stargazing I checked the weather for that day it was cloudy and it was cold there was no way he could have seen the Stars
I get you speaking about clouds but….Stars still shine in cold weather? lol
But not cloudy ?? Lol
The alibi was he was at his favorite park, where he would often go to stargaze. Doesn't mean he was stargazing that night.
He didnt say he was star gazing thats just what people do there. He never said what he was doing. The mefia said star gazing
Blum's Book seems to be all hear say ???? Not happy he was able to publish.
I can’t wait to read it!
Yeah, I have to shy away from Blum and the book😣
This horrible murder happened.
Then everyone and their brother writes a book,my question is, could it interfere; with the jury, and mis information
Of course it *could* but with today's social media landscape it won't make any more difference than anything else. The court system and judges should be required to be more diligent in educating juries on the necessity, purpose and other essential reasons why only evidence entered into the actual trial is to be evaluated for a verdict. Yet I see no evidence that this is happening. There is absolutely no getting around widespread misinformation and it's truly a sad state of affairs we find ourselves in. A very good example is the ridiculous conspiracy theories that have not only tainted the K. Read case but ruined the lives of innocent people in the course of their long duration. Your concern is well founded.
It’s a fictional book
Can't even say the Goncalvez name right. And the family is worried about their commercial VIABILITY as you got your book out first? Okay..... You have a heart and feel for them? Okay. I've seen and heard enough. Initially I actually thought this book and you name it was not a bad thing until HEARING these REMARKS.
NO CONNECTIONS, NO MOTIVE, NO SIGN OF CLEANING IN CAR, WHAT IS A MAGICIAN, OR GREAT HOUDINI???
Taylor never stated no clean up lmao
The alibi thing always confused me because isn’t it up to the state to prove guilt, not defendant prove innocence? Don’t jump down my throat I am just asking in general, about the law
Your right!! He looks more and more innocent and LE messed up.
@@vondacole4514 oh I wasn’t saying that at all lol .. I was asking why the State made a motion to compel for Kohberger’s alibi and how it is legal in a court of law when the law is that it is the State’s burden to prove guilt, and it is not the Defendant’s burden to prove innocence… that was my question :)
It is an excellent question and I too have wondered about this. What if a person really truly is home alone? What then? However, I asked ChatGPT3 and got some very good answers. It seems that it is only when the defendant chooses to use Alibi as their defense that they must come up with more details so that the prosecution can investigate the alibi details further. It said much more: a page's worth but I can't fit it here. However, I did understand it after studying it. ChatGPT3 is free and that is what I used. Hope this helps. You can probably find the answer on a law blog, too if you search for it. god speed.
@@Mstunneryeah interesting point. I suppose being compelled to give an alibi by state does seem anti-thetical to 'innocent until proven guilty' w/ the burden on those who hav to prove the guilt. I am surprised I the hav nvr heard this argument b4.
I think Blum is right to point out that BK could be not innocent but not proven guilty. I think it is silly to think that BK has been held in jail all this time without a reasonable suspicion of his involvement in this crime. Also, as far as a targeted attack goes, something in this strikes me as being true. Maddie was not as brutally attacked as the others. Her death wasnt so much personal as much as being a solution. He needed to eliminate her. The others threatened him and defended himself.
Being a New York Times best seller does not mean anything. It’s a curated list picked by editors. If you have connections, like Howard, every book you write they will select. That’s how terrible celebrity memoirs make the list- connections.
Also the writer/editors sometime arrange payment of the first few days of book sells to hit the quota to call it "Best Seller"
You don't have to bring race into every fcking conversation.
but it is true what he said
I agree. You hear it so much it carries no weight with me
If you are a Democrat it's encouraged
@@jamesBrian-lu4kj Well, now that is just like bringing "Democrat" into every conversation. Weary ass weary is what it all is.
u do if it applies
🕵Too many books writen about what no one knows...Theories are just that theories. When the prosecution hands over the discovery maybe then we will have something. Death penalty on what grounds??
The grounds for a death penalty are simply what the laws in a state either permit or don't when a conviction of usually, first degree murder is found by a jury, after a trial. (States may vary on what constitutes 1st degree murder and these are the *grounds*). *Grounds* have nothing to do with who committed the crime or any theory or speculation about a crime committed.
@@govindagovindaji4662 👏Tku for that. I was being sarcastic when I said what grounds. Im just upset that BK hasnt had one day in court nor said anything and the Goncalves want h im dead yesterday and the family wearing death penalty shirts to court bothers me...tku for the lesson though 😊👏
@@dodgingbullets3503 lol, too cute. What's a good link/site to get hooked up w the comings & goings of the families as you describe? I'd love to follow it in more detail than Court TV, 😕
@@dodgingbullets3503I thought the end of your OP was prbly said w/a sarcastic tone but I still don't get wat u r saying. Do u support the right of the family to want him put to death? If so, y does the tee-shirts thing bother u?
@@dodgingbullets3503wait, I just re-read your reply post to @dodgingbullets3503. R u supporting BK in that he has not had 'his' day in court? U r aware that that is his choice thru his & his lawyer's delay tactics? I think it is somewhat unfair that the family hasn't seen a 'day in court' of a trial start. The right to a speedy trial is a benefit that both sides of justice are allowed & shud be adhered to in a balanced manner imo.
I don’t see Mr. Goncalves having the attorney contact Blum regarding film rights for money, specifically. More so, IMO, for the control over how the story exactly is told. 🙏 for the families, friends and for justice.
Unfortunately, we have a first amendment that says otherwise
I agree, if Steve Goncalves did hav an attorney contact Blum it was most definitely imo to protect his family's rights & privacy. Even if the legal jargon had to specify something more concrete, that isn't always as cut & dry as it can come across.
@@susanwhalls6230huh?
Love this stream. Watch 99% , but agree with the other comments here about Blum. What an ego ! Can't even pronounce the names of one of the victim's families. Claims the grieving father is just angry he didn't get to make $$ from his story, which he is utterly entitled to & would do from an incredibly painful situation honoring HIS daughter & their friends. Tis guy leaves a very sour taste in my mouth. Like others here. Would never give $1 towards purchasing the book of someone who is so disrespectful to the families.
There was an informant, I believe it was BK’s sister
I think it's Emma
@@aisle_of_viewwhos Emma?
@@sophieschoices9663
Emma Bailey
@@SuperAnnieq Who is Emma Bailey?
Oh no, not the Boise courtroom with the Fisher Price audio and video that we had in the Daybell trial ?? 😑
It’s better then nothing..
Dylan Mortensen saw one man with bushy eyebrows leave, not two
I think having your original guest detective and crime fighters is so much better than listening to anyone who wrote a book. The reporter is fine, but Mr Blum is so argumentative. The trial has not even begun so I am sure facts and evidence will come out during the trial.
Please don’t invite Blum back… it’s not polite to dominate the conversation when the others know just as much (maybe more considering he can’t say their names correctly)! Plus his comments about Steve were distasteful.
I would think Howard would be a little more educated on the legal process. IGG is the equivalent of a lie detector test and is inadmissible in court. It was not used to procure any warrant or anything else that would be presented in court. Even if they did use nefarious methods it would have nothing to do with BK. It would not be his rights violated so nothing is going to be tossed in conjunction. If a random person left BKs name on the tip line then you built a case of solid evidence, who would care how the tipster got the information? Nobody. The defense is just laying smoke screens.
Blum is pathetic. He saw this for what it was a cash cow! I'd be upset if I were the family. They are re victimized by books written without all the facts. These facts will come out in trial. Then what ? More books????
Is it "Tacky" to talk about Konsalves being unhappy with Blum because he is greedy as if Blum is altruistic in writing and publishing a book on the murder of Konsalves daughter and friends.
Goncalves
🎉 Happiest birthday wishes, Joel 🎉
woah ....pretty ball$y Howard Blum. Accusing Steve Goncalves of being mad about the $ grab.....is so LOW RENT. Now, I will NEVER buy you're book. I call for a boycott.
No matter what this Blum guy or anyone thinks of Mr G...he lost his daughter...in a terrible way..2 daughters with maddie...I dont know how anyone can speak bad on Mr G..very shameful
Happy Birthday Joel thanks for doing you
Happy Birthday 🎉
This whole thing is extremely ODD. I am very interested in seeing the evidence they have because so far I am not convinced. I feel just because the news says one thing its taken as if its 100% certain and if you have a different opinion all hell breaks loose. Cant have but one thought and thats the one someone else wants you to think. Crime circus goes deep into all of this. Its very informative.
You are spot on!I really fell the same way abot this case.
Crime circus?? What a joke 🤣🤣
Just ordered all 3 books. Mr. Appelman’s arrived first & read through her in 3 hours. Very curious for the other 2 that arrive tomorrow. I’m 43 & lived in LA for 18 years in the H hills & grew up in Nashville where I currently reside. Beyond “Unsolved Mysteries” as a child, I’d never really been exposed to true crime. This case jarred me to my core & I’m going nuts w this one. I’m sure it’s all gonna wash out but I learned some things from Mr. Appleman’s book I’d never heard. Including the kid in the footage (Hunter,) & being on the phone for the 911 call? Srry but still super sketch as he was always around. There’s def so much that will b peeled away & understood but this one gets me & still breaks my heart. Keddie Cabin was before my time but same level of how & why? Also, the “unspecified parties on the 911 call I’d never realized. Amazed nothing has been leaked. & Mr. Appelman, while I did/do have mixed emotions about the book, it was beautifully written & do conclude that so much more good was done in bringing their story home to all of us. The chapter w the “crying noises,” still made my stomach turn & broke my heart again for those last echoed moments in cheap hallways falling on quitened ears. Enjoyed the discussion. Look forward to Mr. Blum & Mr. Fixler’s tomorrow. Godspeed!
Wat do u mean u nvr realized the "unspecified parties on the 911 call" ? I remember hearing a while ago that many people talked to the 911 operator. Something more than that u realized?
Have to say, just the way Blum laughed when someone early after the introductions said in chat, "I really loved Blum's book" or something to that effect, he responded, "Good, we can end it (this session) here." Of course he was merely making light of the moment and being appreciative for the comment but it struck me as disrespectful to the families of the kids who died. It was kinda like seeing anybody laughing during a murder trial over an inappropriate comment. The story isn't about the success or failure of Blum's book, it is about solving the murder of 4 college students.
exactly. Him saying they can end is so pathetic. It is a tick a lot of people do on podcasts wen receiving a compliment on their work. Like stop the presses, I'm getting wat I want, praise & accolades; that's all that matters here-- nothing else to see. This is a reason a person shud not be able to capitalize on tragedy by writing a book unless it is their personal story & done for cathartic reasons. @ least not until after trial if they find a suspect w/in a couple of years.
Hope you had a very Happy Birthday, Joel! 🎉
STS is one of the best on this subject. But I can do without the race baiting from Appleman though. Lost a lot of respect for him.
I’m with you. That guy is hung up on race. He doesn’t come across as a critical thinker just in race theory 😅
It's not a 'hangup' on race OR race baiting to point out facts.
Happy happy birthday Joel! I'm so sorry to have missed the live. I have and read Reuben's book, "While Idaho Slept" and it was so good. Love his writing style and the story he told filled me with emotion. That's a great writer to be able to evoke emotions with their writing (like YOU Joel! Love love loved your book too!) I wish Howard would get their names correctly
IGG is used to clear people too. If the IGG cleared BK, would the same critics be ok with it then?
Not if the DNA matches.
👍touch dna is not enough. From what we know today, they don’t have the evidence
I read Blum’s book. Many things are his opinion, not facts.
I found it entertaining, well written, but not factual. He has no way to prove what BK was thinking, his father was thinking, and exactly how the murders were committed.
Then to speak negatively about a victims father is simply poor character.
Joel usually has such credible guests, but I think STS missed the mark here. Joel could not have read the book, as I am sure he would have passed on this guest.
Still love Joel and STS.
I don’t think the sound was feedback. I think it was Spirit.
I agree, I know if I was the victim I'd be fuckin up everything he tries to tell lies through. It's so distracting why are they letting him continue!? It irritates my soul to hear him speak with his ridiculous hand movements.
@@jaemarcus4268 omg, the hand movements~!!!! I thought the same thing but thought I was probably being overly critical (which I usually am). And the glasses touched to lips and the arms folded. Geeze-Louise and poor Louise~!
When Brian was arrested he stated in a question was he the ONLEY person arrested that leaves me to believe that he did it but he had accomplices or he wouldn't have made that question statement
he could have said that intentionally to throw confusion and doubt.
We don’t know if he actually said that. It’s all hearsay.
I think he wanted to know if any of his family had been arrested along with him the day of his arrest.
I’m pretty sure the officer who claimed BK said that has walked his statement back. And even if BK did say that, it’s probably because BTK also said that when he was arrested.
@@kowalski3769i cant prove it but this was my suspicion as well.
you tainted a jury!!!! he is innocent till proven guilty!!!!! how do you think this is right?
Mr. Blum, your actions are dispicable! You have the benefit of Primacy - you benefit disproportinately because of your fame as an author and because you're second. Please donate all of the money to the victims' families.
Fantastic Show tonight Mark. I will be re watching as I usually do. FYI Canadian Lawyer here, I get notifications of shows. Please ask Mark how Bukanki (sp) is getting text messages of people without a warrant and going to their homes a year or more later I was really disturbed by Katie's interview with Mazza on his show, especially when she said, "How did he know where I lived?" This tells me they are doing searches illegally. WTF? is going on in that Town?
Awesome cast
That was smooth, "Everytime you say New York Times best seller list...."
Blum is not worth listening too. He's all about the money selling his book or he wouldn't even be on these podcasts. His arrogant know it all attitude is borderline giddy, even though we all probably agree, Kohberger is guilty as they come.
Pathetic is the alibi that he regularly goes out in the wee hours to gaze at the stars. Not cool that his phone was conveniently turned off.
You don’t know the phone was turned off
Yeah and waiting a year and a half to say it! If he was innocent he would have said it from day 1
I don't really care to be talking so much abt these books , shouldn't been written before the trial end of story , very disrespectful.
He may not have gone to the MG for the food but rather to interact with female waitstaff.
23:43 shut up, Howard… YOU jumped on this because you saw $$$$. Leave the families alone. Stay out of it.
So much negative stuff toward Howard Blum! People have just got to complain about something🙄
It's not complaining to stick up for & back families of victims
Honestly don’t understand the comment section right now. 😬🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ I do not have same complaints. Seems like a valid and interesting conversation to me. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ . I mean Bloom came cross as passionate, extremely well versed on the topic, and excited to discuss it. - I can see how he would feel strongly or some kind of way after getting death threats after becoming a best seller. Valid points to me 🤷♀️ didn’t sound disrespectful to me. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️maybe the pronunciation thing a bit disrespectful but some folks just suck at pronouncing names . 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ ps Happy Birthday @Joel! 🎉❤🎉
He accuse one of the family victims saying “They after the money” That’s alone disgusting and disgraceful and shameful. Let alone his narcissism by constantly interrupting others. I hope they sue him for saying that about them. What trash personality
I continue to be amazed at how much focus ( this far out) the sheath continues to garner. 15 months ago the DA office flat out stated they have zero intent to use any of the IGG/Sheath info if it ever made it to a trial. Quote " The prosecution has argued investigative genetic genealogy was not mentioned or used in the warrants and will NOT be presented at trial, so it’s therefore not relevant to the case.."
@BriansRamblings
Astute fellow. We will see, but now that you say it, I seem to remember that as well. And interestingly, they may have made that statement b/c they knew that they had messed up 'technically' in how they obtained the match. Geeze, can you imagine if this entire case is thrown out because of this? I remember now too that back then I wondered how they would turn things around to 'find' something else to use for probable cause in order to perform searches and nothing was ever printed in the news about that either as I recall.
@@govindagovindaji4662 Can you make sense of this crap from Dawn Danials PPD on her search warrant for BK apt after his arrest. Good luck! "This information is being provided to the court pursuant to my duty and obligation to be fully candid with the court. I do not believe this information is exculpatory for the suspect. However, if the court believes it is exulpatory then the court should consider this supplemental disclosure in its evaluation of the existence of probable cause or lack thereof buried.
But I am specifically asking the court to not consider this supplemental disclosure as evidence supporting the existence of probable cause. The reason for this request is that if the dna test results are held inadmissible at some point such a ruling would not impact the finding of probable cause for this warrant, so long as the court is satisfied as to probable cause----- Regardless of the DNA test result.
WTF??"
👋 I'm from Michigan too, born n raised in Ford country Dearborn. Good show👍
They said the police were looking for a 2011-2013 white car. Allegedly, 39:43 BK car is a 2015. Other people are saying that one of the boyfriends also had a white Hyundi, which he sold a couple of weeks after
the murders. Is that true? Also, if the scene was so bloody, why was no blood found in his car or home? It's hard to believe that the remaining roommates heard nothing. I can't believe the murders were quiet. No screaming, no hollering? It's too far fetched to believe they heard nothing.
They police updated the yr of the car @ some point ips. The officer who spotted BK's car on campus wasn't sure if it was the right year but ran a ✔️still anyways. I think that led them to some additional info that led them to look into BK further?
Their lungs were punctured in the attack & it happened so fast I don't think they had time to react w/ scream. They were too busy fighting w/ all their might.
At this point. I don't think anyone owning a white Elantra committed these crimes.
@@tracyswain7942 y?
Didn't Rachel morins brother speak at the RNC?
That’s not the whole family is it..
He should not have been allowed to right the story , them poor victims and they family , have some compassion for them all , I would never buy the book . God bless , some people have no shame .
He is guilty AF. 🙏 for the victims and their families ❤
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On the second Stop by State Troopers you have a better look at Bryan and his father and you clearly see an awful scar on Bryan Kohberger’s around wrist and going up his arm. Looked like stitches or horrible wound.
I love the fix ❤️
I missed this show live. I was watching the Ashley Benefield trial. The male Monarch butterfly lives about 2 weeks, so they need to get busy and find a mate. Females are known to live up to a month until they get rid of their 200 eggs they can lay in their lifetime. "Joel" is out there looking for his COE. I don't think his off-springs will make their way to Florida, but a 3rd generation of "Joel" will hopefully hibernate in Mexico over the Winter and if the winds blow that offspring East next March, you stand a good chance a 2rd generation of that offspring will be in South Florida. So, I think the earliest a relative of "Joel" can be in South Florida would be about a year from now in time for another birthday in July.
I think we know he bought an overall suit online and was wearing gloves. He disrobed before he got in his car.
No proof he bought an overall suit.
I agree that's a possibility, that begs the question; where is the overall?
Even so, his face and hair would have been soaked. The walls in the house were soaked.
Ye right.🙄
I once read that Bethany saw a naked man running out so… 🤷🏼♂️
As retired police I believe this is a book promotion.
His book is amazing. People do talk and he got there early.
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Happy Birthday Joel!!!🎂🥂😊
Blum and his cohorts need to make hay in this case while the sun still shines. Its only a matter of time before the cast expert casts doubt on the States contention that Kohberger was even in Idaho that night, let alone Moscow
This man is so full of his self. He also is a reason for the change of venue.
Talk about trying to destroy this case. Talking of going beyond what is legal and so on, knowing before the date who BK was and so on and the genetic genealogy and accessing things not allowed. Credit for arrest, etc. WTH. STOP. Not at the show, at the one who said such.
And who can't understand or attempt to Kaylee's dad. We did not live this but some are just numb to things I think. These families have went through total tragedy that cannot be compared to like a car accident which is also awful but 100% different than targeted brutal murder.
As far as books, I'm sure BK loves he is now infamous. And like it is not for fame or profit.
And talking about pulling a case asunder, WHO exactly is doing that here....
ultimately they matched his dna to the single source dna found on the sheath... so the IGG is irrelevant.
Absolute disgraceful comments towards a victims family wow.
Any man would be upset seeing a man write a book about the IDAHO FOUR CASE,
Which includes his daughter, and profit from it?
Has he given any procedes from the book to anyone or any charities.?
Because a man's angry with him,a man who lost a daughter in horrifying events has a right to be angry.Blum has proven to all how blinkered he is & vile a man to
Accuse a grieving family man of being angry, due to him profiting from the case
Empathy , Respect just two words Blum lacks and what an horrible man he is to think it's all about money?Unbelievable,despicable and shameful individual.
Arrogance and ignorance of the man who profits from others devastation.
HEART. ? Blum hasn't one. saying New York Times best selling list as many times as possible show him for the man he his.Greed shame on Blum
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Happy Birthday Joel!!! Sorry you have crazy listeners on here! Hope you have a great celebration with the family! 🎉
Kohberger is definitely guilty. Thank you for having these guests on. My prayers are with the victims’ families.
Definitely guilty? This is an example of being closed minded and reason for a change in venue
Happy Birthday Joel🎉💜🙏
There is a lull and that is because of the gag order; therefore, we're really hearing nothing new except for explanations about new motions and speculations; but no worries, I'm still listening.
How is listening to this show any different than reading a book about a possibility of what happened. It's all speculation from info up to now known. Talk about it on air as a show or write a book, both generate income.
33:52 Great points J. Appelman, "which is it? Do u want to lock up people w/ this evidence or don't u?"
I really do not think Steve Goncalves is ' jealous' of Blum's book & the profit he made off of it. I think Steve Goncalves is likely furious that some random author is profitting off of his daughter's & her friends' brutal murders.
The family is still in initial stages of grieving. They won't truly even start to move thru their shock, loss & grief until a trial is completed imo. The publishing of a book covering their personal tragedy is just so insulting & only most likely enhances their trauma they r dealing w/.
It is sad that we cannot respect victim's families & as a society protect them & try to ease their burden. Instead people like Blum & Appelman r allowed to capitalize on this horrific event.
I think Appelman's point about, "Wen shud we report on war?" 2days in, 4mos in, or 2 yrs after is completely misguided. This horrific tragedy is not comparable to covering a war other than the the bloodshed that both hav in common.
Edit: Appelman does seem to hav some insights & compassion wen he states, people r just trying to make sense of fthis situation. Yet I still think it is somewat callous to work under a deadline of submission. He cud hav investigated & wrote about this horrific tragedy, for his own purposes of understanding(no one was preventing him from the writing process- mayb prople wud hav discouraged the publishing process?) & chose to publish later if it weren't for some commercial success drive & truly was a drive for comprehension of a heinous event.
Happy! Happy Birthday! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉. Hope your day was awesome!
Hows the white guilt in the guy bottom left 😂😂
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I’d bet there is a mix somewhere in the family or friends. He wants to be known as a good guy
Happy happy Birthday, Joel.🎂🎁🎉🎉🥰👏🏻👏🏻