I think a huge issue that the INTP faces is the fact that people see them as lazy or unmotivated while in reality they are working very hard and spending massive amounts of energy on the things they enjoy. Just being in an environment where they're work is being appreciated is a huge plus.
Literally this, for me. I always wonder why just showing up and suppressing what I would rather be doing right now isn't understood and rewarded more in society. Socially. As a 30yr old I've started to realize a lot (most?) Ppl in the US at least identflify their job as their identity which is just something I would never do unless I was in charge of the entire thing, like an author. (Which I'm increasing my skill with in my private life. Which is what I want to do besides show up to work lol)
How many INTPs does it take to screw in a light bulb? Trick question: 1. INTPs don't need light, we have ourselves 2. INTPs aren't going to help themselves in practical ways 3. Someone else will get upset by the INTP "laziness" and do it for them
^ Or perhaps some kind of uncontained light source that is based on fixed emitters or raw energy, thus not requiring any light bulbs to be replaced, but perhaps just some kind of recharging mechanism or battery replacement.
Why is just-in-time-delivery considered a great innovation in the world of commerce, yet supposedly it's a personality flaw of the INTP? "Lazy," "unmotivated," "procrastinating" - it's just-in-time-delivery! It's the most efficient way for me to do something quickly without tangental mental distractions. I get more done in less time that way. It's calculated, not "lazy."
INTPs are harder to motivate, they tend to care less about those things that are used as leverage in hierarchies. If you have someone overqualified, unmotivated by financial security, - status or unshamable these tools to correct their behaviour are ineffective.
+Erik Thor The world has got the Carl Jung of this century. History is being made through the books, articles and these videos! This kind of crystal clear and accurate analysis is way way way ahead of any other personality study
8:54 "Become autotelic"-I think that's the term you're looking for. Become someone who derives their sense of self-worth apart from others. Constitute your own sense of self, rather than seeking others to provide you with your sense of identity. -- 11:06 Sounds like a case of OCPD. In hindsight, I was like this a decade ago; brilliant, but super pedantic & long-winded. Maybe I'm still a bit like that, but nowhere near as bad.
So I’m , this is what I’ve picked up from another INTP channel, a Joyous INTP-T (5w4 with a chunk of 6) I work in the entertainment industry so I know you only need 1 INTP to stew in a light bulb… I HAVE to be bubbly and alive but it’s also a creative industry so I get to vent via shows and prepping but it’s so so draining… thankfully I can draw energy from a crowd… If I want to be alone I can as I’m cut off from people but still part of a crowd.. I get to be in control whilst also collaborating It’s just close relationships that are hard…. Back to thinking
INTP method of changing a light bulb: 1. Remove burned out bulb. 2. Notice that it's an incandescent bulb, and so uses more electricity and doesn't last as long as an LED--probably why it burned out in the first place. 3. Look at the wattage and the color temperature on the bulb. 4. Realize the old bulb had too bluish a tinge, and you should pick a different color temperature. 5. Think about the blackbody spectrum and how color temperature relates to RGB color coordinates. 6. Decide what color temperature and wattage you should pick for the new bulb--come to think of it, the old bulb was also a little too dim. 7. Look for an appropriate LED bulb in your stash. 8. Realize that the fixture takes bulbs with an unusual kind of base, and that you don't have any such LED bulbs. 9. Go online to look for an LED bulb with the correct base. 10. After not finding any, come to the conclusion that LED bulbs with the appropriate base don't exist. 11. Get very frustrated with the silly person who designed a light fixture that won't take LED bulbs. 12. Decide that before replacing the bulb you should change the light fixture so it will take the kind of light bulb you actually want. 13. Realize that this will require the help of an electrician or at least one other person, so it can't be done right away. 14. As a stopgap, move a desk lamp to the area to use until you get around to making arrangements to replace the fixture (a few months from now).
Im a bit of all of those. I think I think all the time and it actually energises me despite the fact I'm actually a slow thinker. I have no issue consuming cognitively demanding content for all of my free time/ non free time where other types can't handle an hour of the content I consume. I'm more on the unstable neurotic end at this point in my life though whereas before I'd be on the stable and emotionally neutral end. Now I make decisions quickly depending on the decision. E.g. I prefer convenience over quality when it comes to purchasing certain things as I don't like to wait.
I took your test in your site and this video helped me a lot in figuring out if I'm a green or blue INTP since I'm conflicted between the two. I got green at first and questioned it and took it again and got blue. Thanks for the video! Will wait for more INTP videos and other types as well. Go ravenclaws! ^_^
Ha. I just got called out in like the first couple of minutes of this video. I turned this on while I prepared to do work after hours because one of my co-workers guilted me into finishing some stuff up for him. I haven’t had a day off for three…four months and I only took part of this day off because it’s Mother’s Day and I’m a mom…this is stupid. Eugene can deal with it. He just needs to do some simple math to figure out what his numbers are supposed to be.
Which type would you most closely associate with John Nath (from A Beautiful Mind)? And how does one overcome/contend with a mounting fear of one's own genius turning on them?
No. No. No. No. Not me at all, until 16:40 when Erik starts talking about the positives of an INTP - drive, ambition, creativity enacted by always learning and finding an outlet for my conclusions by means of communication. Also, while I don't care what other people think about me, I'm interested in their perspectives and am always open to listening. Furthermore, I can see through people's facades in seconds.Whatever is new and undiscovered is what motivates my insatiable curiosity. Then self-expression erupts out of me from just below the surface - repressed extraversion. Only after that do I need to re-charge - introversion. The cycle starts again.
anyone... have you bought the subtypes report? I'm wondering what kind of topic is covered.... @ErikThor if you could share the table of content that will be super awesome! :D Thanks in advance all!
I didn't agree with this video. I studied personality theory in college and found it fascinating. But the Briggs-Myers personality test confused me; in that I scored ENTP or INTP and it seemed to vary according to my mood, circumstance and situation. That was until I participated in a study which was based in genetics and they were looking for a genetic link to hyper-aggression. Hyper-agression being those who fell in the extreme edge of two standard deviations or above in aggression. This has been termed in popular culture as the "warrior gene." Although they were looking for anyone above the 85% line I qualified to take the test and scored in the 83rd percentile, but I was firmly an INTP in their modified Briggs- Meyers personality test. It changed my perspective considerably and explained why I was sometimes and could operate as an extrovert for extended periods of time but needed a lot of alone time. Where I disagree with this video is that it confuses a persona, e.g. a mask; and appearance put on for show, with a predisposition. To clear that up. It's based on the re- packaged Hippocrates original theory, which the Briggs- Meyers further divided into 8 categories. These are the same "Red, Driver, lion, Choleric"; "Green (originally called White by Hartmann), Amiable, pigeon, Phlegmatic"; "Yellow, Expressive, monkey, Sanguine" and "Blue, Analytical, giraffe or dolphin, Melancholic" Because Briggs and Meyers saw that two categories may be combined, in differing proportions in one person, but the opposite types did not combine (Choleric/Phlegmatic) or (Sanguine/Melancholic). In the video Thor combines the opposites, by confusing the earliest work in personality theory and combining it with a later work, which refined the earlier work. That is why I disliked this video it is done by a person who did not do their due diligence, study the science behind it, or have knowledge of sound Psychology and in their ignorance they mixed the opposite parings. It's total garbage created by confusing categories in total ignorance of the science behind the designations. Typical pop psychology, which does more harm than good. A little knowledge with no idea of what it means, or how to apply it, is always dangerous.
I just googled color psychology and it seems that there are different systems, which are you using? Do you recommend any books or resources to learn more about this system?
when I was a kid I kinda was a yellow intp, at least I always was the nice girl and did everything for everybody. when puberty came it changed. anyway I always thought that this isn't typically intp but seems as if I was wrong ^^
I wonder if you can do videos explaining what do you mean by red, yellow, and all those other concepts. I like your content but I feel like I have no background to understand it well. Lol. Good videos tho
Where do you get the colors from? "Omgiven av idioter" i.e., Choleric, Sanguine, Phlegmatic, Melancholic? Given your sub-type theory, within that framework, I'm probably a mix of all four INTP subtypes you describe but mostly the Blue INTP.
great work.. thanks 4 thw vid :-)microbes are just as important as AI. We all share 10% of common microbes. MANY OF THESES COMMUNITIES ARE ESSENTIAL FOR HEALTHY CITIZENS. What is economic mindset destorying with its politics, weaponry and unnatural laws.
Well first of all I would have to assume you're referring to the common visible light bulb containing electromagnetic radiation wavelengths in the range of four hundred to seven hundred nanometers and not some kind of bulb containing any undisclosed form of electromagnetic radiation that is not visible to human eyes... Procrastinate. Then I would have to explain to you why "light bulb" is a such a bad word to describe something that only ever pertains to a tiny portion of the spectrum we can see... Then I would come up with a few different more practical names and immediately change my mind and hate all my suggestions for extremely technical reasons no one else would have ever noticed. Procrastinate. Then I would casually mention how the theory of light is all wrong anyway and I have been working on a theory for awhile I just don't know anyone who understands anything I am saying so it's hard to get all the kinks worked out... Then I would continue on in life having my path illuminated by RGB strips, computer monitors and cell phone screens knowingly straining my eyes beyond repair until someone else replaces the bulb because i'm "too lazy" and then I complain about how inefficiently directed and bright it is and how it hurts my highly sensitive eyes and swap it with a black light while telling you how much proper lighting will change your life and not to take your vision for granted.🙃
I rather screw a woman, I think you mean *screw in* ... the connotation was shifted that much due to your lack of one word.-This is reference to the message in your thumbnail image.
I think a huge issue that the INTP faces is the fact that people see them as lazy or unmotivated while in reality they are working very hard and spending massive amounts of energy on the things they enjoy. Just being in an environment where they're work is being appreciated is a huge plus.
I really dont think this is true, Im INTP for 6 years now and I havent out energy or effort into anything
Literally this, for me. I always wonder why just showing up and suppressing what I would rather be doing right now isn't understood and rewarded more in society. Socially.
As a 30yr old I've started to realize a lot (most?) Ppl in the US at least identflify their job as their identity which is just something I would never do unless I was in charge of the entire thing, like an author. (Which I'm increasing my skill with in my private life. Which is what I want to do besides show up to work lol)
How many INTPs does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Trick question:
1. INTPs don't need light, we have ourselves
2. INTPs aren't going to help themselves in practical ways
3. Someone else will get upset by the INTP "laziness" and do it for them
So true
Elijah Pedroza so true
Elijah Pedroza how many does it take ?
None they are busy discovering the tubelight
^ Or perhaps some kind of uncontained light source that is based on fixed emitters or raw energy, thus not requiring any light bulbs to be replaced, but perhaps just some kind of recharging mechanism or battery replacement.
Elijah Pedroza this is such an INTP comment because we can't decide on 1 answer lmao
I feel like all of them.
Why is just-in-time-delivery considered a great innovation in the world of commerce, yet supposedly it's a personality flaw of the INTP? "Lazy," "unmotivated," "procrastinating" - it's just-in-time-delivery! It's the most efficient way for me to do something quickly without tangental mental distractions. I get more done in less time that way. It's calculated, not "lazy."
INTPs are harder to motivate, they tend to care less about those things that are used as leverage in hierarchies. If you have someone overqualified, unmotivated by financial security, - status or unshamable these tools to correct their behaviour are ineffective.
@@JohnSmith-ox3gy So you want to "correct" just-in-time delivery. Why?
Trick question: _the lightbulb... _*_is already screwed._* 👌
+Erik Thor The world has got the Carl Jung of this century. History is being made through the books, articles and these videos! This kind of crystal clear and accurate analysis is way way way ahead of any other personality study
I feel like I'm all of the above in different situations and around different people in my life.
Great! i found now that i have all the negatives parts off all colors :)
All of them. If we all used our force of intellect, I’m pretty sure we could do it with just our minds.
Unbelievablely insightful! Thanks for the accurate break downs and analysis. You are helping me alot.
To KIS. You just totally laid out my whole journey to “self” amazing!
8:54 "Become autotelic"-I think that's the term you're looking for. Become someone who derives their sense of self-worth apart from others. Constitute your own sense of self, rather than seeking others to provide you with your sense of identity.
--
11:06 Sounds like a case of OCPD. In hindsight, I was like this a decade ago; brilliant, but super pedantic & long-winded. Maybe I'm still a bit like that, but nowhere near as bad.
So I’m , this is what I’ve picked up from another INTP channel, a Joyous INTP-T (5w4 with a chunk of 6)
I work in the entertainment industry so I know you only need 1 INTP to stew in a light bulb…
I HAVE to be bubbly and alive but it’s also a creative industry so I get to vent via shows and prepping but it’s so so draining… thankfully I can draw energy from a crowd…
If I want to be alone I can as I’m cut off from people but still part of a crowd..
I get to be in control whilst also collaborating
It’s just close relationships that are hard….
Back to thinking
This helps me a lot, Erik. Thanks for this and for all you do!!
INTP method of changing a light bulb:
1. Remove burned out bulb.
2. Notice that it's an incandescent bulb, and so uses more electricity and doesn't last as long as an LED--probably why it burned out in the first place.
3. Look at the wattage and the color temperature on the bulb.
4. Realize the old bulb had too bluish a tinge, and you should pick a different color temperature.
5. Think about the blackbody spectrum and how color temperature relates to RGB color coordinates.
6. Decide what color temperature and wattage you should pick for the new bulb--come to think of it, the old bulb was also a little too dim.
7. Look for an appropriate LED bulb in your stash.
8. Realize that the fixture takes bulbs with an unusual kind of base, and that you don't have any such LED bulbs.
9. Go online to look for an LED bulb with the correct base.
10. After not finding any, come to the conclusion that LED bulbs with the appropriate base don't exist.
11. Get very frustrated with the silly person who designed a light fixture that won't take LED bulbs.
12. Decide that before replacing the bulb you should change the light fixture so it will take the kind of light bulb you actually want.
13. Realize that this will require the help of an electrician or at least one other person, so it can't be done right away.
14. As a stopgap, move a desk lamp to the area to use until you get around to making arrangements to replace the fixture (a few months from now).
Hmm, I'm probably a yellow or red INTP :)
Im a bit of all of those. I think I think all the time and it actually energises me despite the fact I'm actually a slow thinker. I have no issue consuming cognitively demanding content for all of my free time/ non free time where other types can't handle an hour of the content I consume. I'm more on the unstable neurotic end at this point in my life though whereas before I'd be on the stable and emotionally neutral end. Now I make decisions quickly depending on the decision. E.g. I prefer convenience over quality when it comes to purchasing certain things as I don't like to wait.
As I become more understanding of the Jungian way, this yellow INTP becomes more appreciative of your applied knowledge. Thanks.
I took your test in your site and this video helped me a lot in figuring out if I'm a green or blue INTP since I'm conflicted between the two. I got green at first and questioned it and took it again and got blue. Thanks for the video! Will wait for more INTP videos and other types as well. Go ravenclaws! ^_^
Blue INTP here that start having things figured out, I'm 20 but don't have much energy
Shit I’m a rainbow then... relating to all color...
Ha. I just got called out in like the first couple of minutes of this video. I turned this on while I prepared to do work after hours because one of my co-workers guilted me into finishing some stuff up for him. I haven’t had a day off for three…four months and I only took part of this day off because it’s Mother’s Day and I’m a mom…this is stupid. Eugene can deal with it. He just needs to do some simple math to figure out what his numbers are supposed to be.
Which type would you most closely associate with John Nath (from A Beautiful Mind)? And how does one overcome/contend with a mounting fear of one's own genius turning on them?
No. No. No. No. Not me at all, until 16:40 when Erik starts talking about the positives of an INTP - drive, ambition, creativity enacted by always learning and finding an outlet for my conclusions by means of communication. Also, while I don't care what other people think about me, I'm interested in their perspectives and am always open to listening. Furthermore, I can see through people's facades in seconds.Whatever is new and undiscovered is what motivates my insatiable curiosity. Then self-expression erupts out of me from just below the surface - repressed extraversion. Only after that do I need to re-charge - introversion. The cycle starts again.
anyone... have you bought the subtypes report? I'm wondering what kind of topic is covered.... @ErikThor if you could share the table of content that will be super awesome! :D Thanks in advance all!
I didn't agree with this video. I studied personality theory in college and found it fascinating. But the Briggs-Myers personality test confused me; in that I scored ENTP or INTP and it seemed to vary according to my mood, circumstance and situation. That was until I participated in a study which was based in genetics and they were looking for a genetic link to hyper-aggression. Hyper-agression being those who fell in the extreme edge of two standard deviations or above in aggression. This has been termed in popular culture as the "warrior gene." Although they were looking for anyone above the 85% line I qualified to take the test and scored in the 83rd percentile, but I was firmly an INTP in their modified Briggs- Meyers personality test. It changed my perspective considerably and explained why I was sometimes and could operate as an extrovert for extended periods of time but needed a lot of alone time.
Where I disagree with this video is that it confuses a persona, e.g. a mask; and appearance put on for show, with a predisposition. To clear that up. It's based on the re- packaged Hippocrates original theory, which the Briggs- Meyers further divided into 8 categories. These are the same "Red, Driver, lion, Choleric"; "Green (originally called White by Hartmann), Amiable, pigeon, Phlegmatic"; "Yellow, Expressive, monkey, Sanguine" and "Blue, Analytical, giraffe or dolphin, Melancholic" Because Briggs and Meyers saw that two categories may be combined, in differing proportions in one person, but the opposite types did not combine (Choleric/Phlegmatic) or (Sanguine/Melancholic). In the video Thor combines the opposites, by confusing the earliest work in personality theory and combining it with a later work, which refined the earlier work.
That is why I disliked this video it is done by a person who did not do their due diligence, study the science behind it, or have knowledge of sound Psychology and in their ignorance they mixed the opposite parings. It's total garbage created by confusing categories in total ignorance of the science behind the designations. Typical pop psychology, which does more harm than good. A little knowledge with no idea of what it means, or how to apply it, is always dangerous.
I just googled color psychology and it seems that there are different systems, which are you using? Do you recommend any books or resources to learn more about this system?
+Svalbard Aeon check out todays video to learn more about how I use the colors! out in 10 hrs >
What should I do? I'm INTP but also have 0th percentile industriousness
just give up on giving up
when I was a kid I kinda was a yellow intp, at least I always was the nice girl and did everything for everybody. when puberty came it changed. anyway I always thought that this isn't typically intp but seems as if I was wrong ^^
Keep up the good work. qeustion I keep getting 50-50 scores in the J/P department, any tips? tried out like 5 different test
try mine www.erikthor.com/test/personality-test
@@ErikThor again 50-50 hahaha. It is a good test though
I wonder if you can do videos explaining what do you mean by red, yellow, and all those other concepts. I like your content but I feel like I have no background to understand it well. Lol.
Good videos tho
I have actually th-cam.com/video/xS1Z_YZ65Bg/w-d-xo.html but i'll make more in the future, promise!
Is it possible to a person to move from one type to another? For example could be an intp become an intj or any extrovert personalities?
How many INTPs does it take to screw in a light bulb? It depends on what's in the room
Screwing a light bulb sounds painful.
Where do you get the colors from? "Omgiven av idioter" i.e., Choleric, Sanguine, Phlegmatic, Melancholic?
Given your sub-type theory, within that framework, I'm probably a mix of all four INTP subtypes you describe but mostly the Blue INTP.
Omgiven av idioter is a good book, but it is actually based on the DiSC instrument, and thats where I get the colours from originally!
but i like it when people tell me im doing a good job ;-;
(+spiral dynamics)
if you like spiral dynamis, also watch my latest INTJ video on intj development stages!
How many INTPs does it take to screw in a light bulb??
Zero..We invented the light bulb and made it simple enough for others to screw it in.
Why i feel like I'm the bad of all the types. Lol
The correct answers is , f it I’ll do it myself.
great work.. thanks 4 thw vid :-)microbes are just as important as AI. We all share 10% of common microbes. MANY OF THESES COMMUNITIES ARE ESSENTIAL FOR HEALTHY CITIZENS. What is economic mindset destorying with its politics, weaponry and unnatural laws.
definitely the TiNe
Im a green without having something Im good at
also a red without the creative part
I think im all of them
Would you say your "yellow" INTP is a enneagram 9 INTP?
thank you.
this was very useful.
thankyouuu
All of the above for me lol
Well first of all I would have to assume you're referring to the common visible light bulb containing electromagnetic radiation wavelengths in the range of four hundred to seven hundred nanometers and not some kind of bulb containing any undisclosed form of electromagnetic radiation that is not visible to human eyes...
Procrastinate.
Then I would have to explain to you why "light bulb" is a such a bad word to describe something that only ever pertains to a tiny portion of the spectrum we can see...
Then I would come up with a few different more practical names and immediately change my mind and hate all my suggestions for extremely technical reasons no one else would have ever noticed.
Procrastinate.
Then I would casually mention how the theory of light is all wrong anyway and I have been working on a theory for awhile I just don't know anyone who understands anything I am saying so it's hard to get all the kinks worked out...
Then I would continue on in life having my path illuminated by RGB strips, computer monitors and cell phone screens knowingly straining my eyes beyond repair until someone else replaces the bulb because i'm "too lazy" and then I complain about how inefficiently directed and bright it is and how it hurts my highly sensitive eyes and swap it with a black light while telling you how much proper lighting will change your life and not to take your vision for granted.🙃
Have you been able to predict which one I am yet Erik? lol Im not sure if you even remember me
I'm just a piece of intp shit
Fml I'm all of them🤦♀️
50/50 T and F.
I rather screw a woman, I think you mean *screw in* ... the connotation was shifted that much due to your lack of one word.-This is reference to the message in your thumbnail image.
You are WAY below the discussion here... go watch TV.
Charlotte Sutherland:
"You are WAY below the discussion here... go watch TV."-!!?...That where you learned your bad English?
"you bad"? You mean "your poor"? ....
No, I mean *bad.*
Yes it is an impoverished state but "bad" is sufficient prefix to indicate the *broken* nature of your using *English.*