As many have highlighted recently: Guts in his recent flurry was able to cut a strand of Griffith’s hair which although subtle, has some MASSIVE implications. Zodd surely must’ve noticed this and is finding himself further intrigued by Guts’ potential. I personally think we’ll see Zodd fighting alongside Guts again later on. I envision the final Band of the Berserker to contain Guts, Casca, Schierke, Isidoro, Farnese, Serpico, Rickert, Silat, The Tapasa, Daiba, Skull Knight, and Zodd.
Now that's a fucking JRPG party. Warrior, Knight, Mage, Rogue, Priest(?), Duelist, Engineer, WHIP SWORDS, Deep Dark Fantasies GachiBoys, Gandalf the Brown, Summoned Skull from Yu Gi Oh and the big beef chungus.
I’ve always wondered what Zodd’s purpose was in the story- given he’s introduced pretty damn early. I think Miura made his true allegiances and desires so murky for a purpose. The way the narrative portrays him makes me believe that he won’t truly be an endgame villain as the likes of Griffith and the Godhand. I think there’s more to him then simply to be Griffith’s bodyguard. What’s interesting to me is that Zodd regularly defers to causality, whereas Guts seems to constantly be struggling against causality. I wonder if the endgame of Zodd’s character is being able to learn something from Guts…
Feel like he was foreshadowing towards the eclipse (which is why people feel Wyld is redundant) and to provide a what if Guts casted aside his humanity. Ive heard people compare him to Akuma from street fighter which is a perfect parallel
I believe slaying a God Hand member would be an honor for him. Remember, when he first meets Griffith he succumbs to his power, but if he could sense that Guts has the potential to defeat him, then Zodd would ultimately wish to fight Guts last.
True, like when he helped guts against ganishka, zodd didn't have any real reason to help him, maybe yeah to try and defeat ganishka, but in the end, he could've killed guts to stop him from hurting griffith, but I think his allegiance is really lingering whether to stay with griffith or against griffith
You sort of ignore the biggest element of Zodd's personality: he is an Apostle. We know what it means to become an Apostle. Zodd, as a human, once fell into a pit of despair so deep and painful that he sacrificed someone he loved to become Zodd the Immortal we know. As shown with the Slug Apostle (the Count? The Baron? Something like that), being an Apostle doesn't remove a person's humanity, it numbs them. Zodd is probably the strongest Apostle, but he is still human. Zodd has some trauma buried deep that, if uncovered, could force him into remembering his humanity and seeing how far he has fallen. When he unleashes his Apostle form, he is abandoning the thing he claims to want the most - a good fight - to serve the Godhand and Femto specifically. Femto couldn't hack it as a struggler like Zodd, Skull Knight, or Guts, so he took a shortcut to absolute power. I doubt Zodd has any true loyalty to Femto, and would betray him as soon as he finds a way of avoiding the blowback.
I don’t if you have seen real life Ryan’s theory that Zodd and skull knight are the same person. I would recommend it, I don’t if it is true, but I can’t see Zodd sacrificing a love one, I feel he sacrificed a part of himself or something like that, but I’m curious as to your opinion.
It would be so interesting to see his true human form when he dies. Would be funny if he is just a regular human, since he looks like a monstrosity like Wyald, who turned back into a pitiful old man. He has so many similarities to Guts compared to Griffith, at this point I don't even understand anymore why he's following Griffith or if he just has to do it because he's part of the God Hand.
If Zodd was ever a human, he only became an apostle to become even stronger than he (very likely) already was. He wouldnt have done it to cope with a weakness. If Zodd ever reverts back to human form after death, everyone will be impressed by how absolutely yoked the guy was, even before becoming an apostle. Screencap this.
@@Jarl_egbert It is not an "if", it is a "when". I don't know if Berserk will ever explore it, but it is beyond certain. The only requirement for someone to become an apostle is utmost despair and a Behelit ready to summon the Godhand. Since Zodd is objectively an apostle, then we know it must have happened. So while Zodd is unique among apostles, he is unquestionably an apostle, with all the baggage that entails.
Since Zodd lost his horn to the vision of Griffith, the other horn has been growing even larger, almost replacing the other. It would not surprise me at all if Zodd lost his other horn to Guts.
On the part you named about the Godhand not caring about Guts killing apostles as the Black Swordsman: they directly confirm it during the Count’s second ceremony - that Guts’ killing of apostles is beneath their notice. Great video man, I really liked the content and your reasoning.
I mean, only Slan was the one that got into fight with him (excluding Griffith) and saw the guy has insane mental resistance, plus he had enough strenght to even "wound" her, so maybe yes, other members dont give a damn, yet, but Slan may try to kill him.
@@SamSphinx She is messed up thats true, well we will see. But it would be cool if Isidro is the one who defeats her, considering it was him who fought against her fanatics.
@@Twiz_E There is still doubt, guts might have a better chance than he had at the millennium arc but still zodd is THE apostle, so I have my doubts but I also have hope
Didn't the Dwarven blacksmith say that Guts isn't fully using the Berserker armor? It is a very Carl Jung concept for someone to become their true self they need to integrate their shadow. I'm not exactly sure how that would play out in the page but I'm pretty sure that's the concept they're going for.
Man those dwarves about get clapped real soon at 367 and griffith probably gonna rape dunnan in front of skullknight while puck flying around jerking off with his betchy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀
The jungian shadow calls for individuation where it’s a process where the conscious confronts the shadow and if I’m not mistaken either one is consumed by their shadow. Or one reaches reconciliation with their shadow in a process where the become one. I think then you can view people who fall and become apostles fall to their shadow and are consequently consumed by it. But that’s just my theory
@@dannymaurice5543 precisely, took the word outta my head just didn't know how to explain it. I feel like Guts and King Gyserich(idk on spelling) are two sides of the same coin where the king was consumed by his shadow. Thanks for that!
Zodd is possibly the most powerful apostle because he is good at everything. The other generals have expertise in one aspect, but are weak in the rest. Let's take the example of Grunbeld: He is extremely resistant, has flames and strength, but his agility is mediocre and has no ability to deal with long-range attacks.
I recall a comment on a video of Sign II, the guy was saying that regardless of everyother apostles and his own strength and might he would never want to face « something » like zodd. Something so bestial, so overwhelming, something that speaks to our inner warrior and tells him: « man, you’re fucked, you better die quick ». I absolutely agree and it goes without saying then, that I do agree on your post. Zodd is just… Something else. A monster driven only by his warriors spirit Scary stuff man
@@d.a.u.d exactly. Zodd gives you a sense of hopelessness in anything you can do to him in a fight. Making a comparison, despite Grunbeld being more resistant, Zodd has probably Berserk's biggest healing factor, making him able to simply battle indefinitely.
If Zodd and Raksas betrayed Griffith and joined the resistance, that would increase Gutts odds by an incalculable amount. Raksas has said he would do so from the beginning anyway. With those two off Griffiths team, Locus, Grunbeld and Irvine would be the only 3 apostles really standing in the way of Griffith, and two of them could be at least stalled by the turncoats.
Would certainly be an interesting route to take, but I don't think Guts would be happy about working with an apostle, and I don't think Serpico would be happy having berserker armor Guts and Zodd to worry about
@@mugenbop True they did work together fighting Ganishka, and perhaps Zodd respects Guts a lot more after seeing what he can do, the more I think about it he more plausible it seems
@@mugenbop yea thats actually one of his characteristic , so human and stuff and reader always hyped up about zodd and guts being bros anyway Savagery bromance 🤣🤣
I love a good twist, and this would be a very good one. I think it depends how far his honor goes and if he views betrayal as dishonorable or if his bloodlust overpowers his reasoning
I think Zodd will betray Griffith but in the sense he refuses to listen to griffiths orders, not working for guts. Zodd values strength, and while Griffith is technically the strongest, it must be boring to technically be unable to harm him or have anywhere near a fair fight with him in Zodds eyes. Guts is different, he can bleed, so Zodd will become enamored in fighting him.
Yea i think he wont kill guts , even if its an order Its been shown many times before , he even kinda protected him twice , when guts was at doldrey and when they both done slayed ganishka , even after they first met , zodd was trying to kil griffith first despite , guts was the first that encounter him
When Zodd threw his sword to Gutts at the battle of Doldrey, I think it was more part of causality, something necessary to allow Griffith to climb higher. Without that sword, Gutts and Griffith would have been killed. If Zodd had his own desire for keeping Gutts alive, it was planned by the Idea of Evil, planned by causality.
@@MTGnEWbie420 that, I am not sure. From what I understand, Gutts was not supposed to survive the first eclipse. While it is difficult, even near impossible, it is still possible to break free, or at least disturb causality.
I can see some symbolism happening such as where Griffith had cut Zod'd's left horn off, Guts will cut the right horn off. Zodd could be the last wall Guts has to overcome to from a physical standpoint and cutting his right horn off would be a defining moment to us readers showing us that Guts is ready to face Griffith.
I'm gonna enjoy a Guts/Zodd team-up, after the Fantasia Arc is done, and Skull Knight becomes the enemy. Imagine Zodd's perspective on the Berserker armour and the 1 on 1 duel perspective he can provide Guts..
Skull knight can’t become an enemy. It’s already hopeless enough. We are 60-70% though the story. Problem solving time is coming. Not adding more problems
Zodd joining Guts party would be soo amazing and fun , but maybe it has no sense but a villain turning good is something this series has never explored
Imagine Guts killing Zodd in combat and it being enough to power up the dragon slayer to wound Griffith/Femto. Think about how powerful Zodd is as an apostle and his blood and dark essence was absorbed into the sword giving him a warriors death and also granting Guts the ability to do the impossible and destroy and godhand.
@GG I disagree, I think it would fit Zodd's character arc perfectly. That way he would get to battle to the death and die to the most feral warrior he's ever met (perhaps if Guts manages to master the Berserker Armor?) and become a literal God Killing Sword, an instrument of death so powerful that it can be used to end *anything* -- even something as unkillable and overpowering as Griffith. I don't think it would devalue him, on the contrary I think he would consider it an honor. As things stand, there must be more to Zodd. He can't be happy the way things are, with him being relegated to act as Griffith's furry babysitter and all.
I think the conversation between Zodd and Sonia was foreshadowing the fact that Zodd eventually would join Guts in some way besides the fight against Ganishka. I was always expecting Zodd and Silat to join Guts' party but since Guts detests apostles I wonder how Miura would have concluded Zodd's arc.
He probably would die the death he always wanted is a warrior's death. He probably would accept that because he probably didn't die that way when he became an apostle. Because why did he become one in the first place? You need to have a need to be an apostle someone tried to kill him in a dishonorable way and he couldn't take that.
That's a good idea, all apostles have reasons to use their behelits and become what they are, zodd was clearly a strong warrior who won every battle he's ever fought, so him dying a dishonorable death through whatever reason could've been the trigger to become an apostle
I heard a pretty good theory a while ago in which Zodd and Skull Knight were the same person, the old conqueror king, dissociated by the use of the berserker armor. Like the wolf we see Guts with when he goes full madman gained concsiousness of his own or smth.
My theory is that they were two close friends but had a similar relationship to Guts and Griffith. Except where Guts chose to leave Griffith and his ambitions, maybe Zodd betrayed Skull knight (when he was king) to the godhand in exchange for becoming an apostle. Zodd probably always had that desire to be the best warrior, so in order to be able to be the equal of Skull knight/king he wanted a power up. I can see Zodd possibly regretting his decision after seeing what happens in the eclipse (which would explain why he didn't participate in Griffith's eclipse) and growing to resent the godhand.
He wont feel alive fighting griffith thats for sure , he might not kill guts even if its an order from femto , but to go up againts him ? Zodd is not stupid , he even willing teamed up with guts to go againts ganishka , he might go stupid tryna punch bunch of fog but he didnt
If what Zodd wants most in life is a great challenge in battle, what greater challenge than the Godhand themselves? What if Zodd forges an alliance with Guts and the Skull Knight to take them on? That would turn Zodd the Apostle into Zodd the Apostate
Ganishka was an Apostle that forced Zodd to team up with Guts. He couldn’t face him alone. And that was before Ganishka used his Shiva form. Now let’s put it into perspective: Ganishka’s Shiva form wasn’t even a threat to Griffith, rather an asset for the Godhand’s plan. He could have dealt with him without trying. How exactly would Zodd think joining forces with Guts and Skull Knight be enough? They are on a WHOLE different level that wouldn’t give Zodd what he yearns for: a fight with an opponent that could he could kill but also get him killed. It would be the same thing as suicide.
@@AarturoSc So the question is...can Apostles become stronger? Can they be upgraded? Does an Apostle always remain around the same level of strength they were initiated into? Are there relics or artifacts in the Berserk universe that could make an Apostle even more powerful?
@@paragondreams340 Apostles received their strength from the God Hand. That should tell you enough about them betraying them and how it would end. Ganishka did got stronger, but he lost his ability to think properly and was used by the God Hand to further their motives. Any Apostle would be simply powerless against the God Hand since they are victims of causality.
It was my theory that Miura intended for Zodd to join Guts at some point for the reason you described. Additionally, it seems to me there is a potential civil war brewing among the apostles as there are two distinct factions. A minority of the apostles still look human on their human forms and they also have the most powerful demon forms. The Count from early on, Grunbeld, the Silver Knight, the Hunter, and Zodd being the primary examples. It is notable that these apostles also abstain from the worst appetites of the other apostles, and look with disdain on their twisted brothers. They also - aside from Grunbeld - have shared moments of empathy with humans. The majority of the apostles on the other hand are all cannibals and presumably rapists. They don't look human even in their human forms and their demon forms are horribley twisted abominations. Some of them appear to even be weaker in those forms... I suspect they are the most evil and twisted at heart, slaves to the most horrible of appetites (Wyald and the seprent broke from this pattern, but they were also introduced some 2-3 decades earlier). If Griffith is weakened there is no doubt these apostles will turn on the humans they currently protect with glee. I believe the Hunter and the Knight would protect humanity. Zodd would do so for more selfish reasons. We know Miura is heavily influenced by Jung and Nietschie (sp?). The majority of apostles have failed to incorporate the monster and ate therefore monsters... As all men who fail to do so are. Zodd represents a faction of apostles that have... And while they all did unforgivable evil in order to get the power they have... I see humanity in the more human ones. Grunbeld and the Knight are bound by honor, the latter shows compassion to soldiers. The Hunter carves his own path, he is the snake or the tiger who will remain absolutely still as he waits for the right moment to strike. He also shows compassion to forehead girl. Zodd has a more primitive martial code.
I see you what you mean. However those stronger Apostles like Count,Snake Baron, and Wyald were still defeated in the end and by a human at that. I think the morale of the story is that the wicked/evil Apostles no matter how weak or strong they are will end up dead and burning in the abyss/hell While the more “noble” ones like Grunbeld,Locus,Irvine, and possibly even Zodd will live on and find a purpose as protectors of humanity.
I think Zodd loyalty lies with whoever can defeat him. I believe out of all of the godhand apostles. Zodd has a better moral compass and respect though who can challenge him and defeat him.
It's an interesting theory, but I don't think Zodd would go against Griffith. He's either going to protect Griffith until the very last chapter or just die in the next 4 chapters, and then hell breaks loose on Elfheim with the new arc.
I feel like something that everyone forgets is the fact that Rickert was able to slap Griffith, able to physically touch him. Rickert seems far more in line with his emotions, far more well-balanced - could this have something to do with it all?
i think there was no reason why griffith should had avoid that. so he did let it happen. although he was in his role as the holy friend of humanity to gain trust and build up falconia; so being vunurable as the same time make's him even more special in human eyes.
Interesting thoughts!.. But the gap between Fimto and Zod in power is vast.. And Zod realizes that.. I believe he serves Griffith because he knows that strong fighters will be drawn to him either to fight him or serve him.
I’ve always seen Zodd as the Apostle version of Guts in the new Band of the Hawk, I think Zodd is mostly just their to symbolize being the replacement of Guts to Griffith. So when Guys fights Zodd it’s almost like he’s fighting a version of himself through an Apostle filtered mirror, and for that reason I don’t feel like he’s going to betray Griffith…or at least not unless Griffith betrays him first
I mean it is possible considering Ganishka hated the Godhand, and Guts teamed up with Zodd to take him down, so they've been shown working together before. This also means that it is possible for Zodd to betray Griffith.
It's kind of wholesome Zodd is being the watchful nanny of the moonlight boy each full moon. Wonder if he has a boostet seat for those moon lit flights
Im curious with how zodd is handling Griffith now being one with the moonlight child. He’s gradually become something like Griffiths right hand man (probably because of the natural gravitation Griffith has being the strongest man/godhand, zodd positioned himself at his side because he has his own goal of fighting the worlds most capable champion). I mean because zodd didn’t show up when the moonlight child was on elf helm, all that time he was near by almost as a chaperone. he only came to battle when Griffith took form… to fight guts… maybe he’s protecting Griffith from guts to fight moonlight child one day?? Maybe im crazy idk but moonlight child has a lot of “soft” power rn because no one wants to harm him. if he were to get older or become stronger inside Griffith, what would happen then? Would he have to fight to preserve his own autonomy? If he did and won would that kill or only weaken Griffith? And if so, would he then take the reigns his father left before him, fight zodd and Griffith? Is that why zodd is staying near by?? For that chance?? it’s just a rant but I just have so many questions…
@@INSNNE haha thank you :) I think it depends on the story but that was more of me going off the deep end with my theories 😅 moonlight is just a very unique character in the manga who is and already has impacted everything. We’ve only been able to speculate that skullknight defeated a godhand (I don’t think that’s the case but who knows!) but moonlight boy is the only being that’s ever come into contact with a godhand. It just hasn’t been done before definitively. That in itself is impressive and it was done without force…maybe it has something to do with causality maybe he just has the same determination to live just like when guts was born who knows!
You know as you were explaining Zodd I was like, *"Man he sounds like Goku but evil."* then 3:36 happened and you took the words right out of my mouth lmao
Personally I think Zodd is going to come up short against Guts in their next fight and Griffith will save Zodd and this is what may trigger Zodd to ignore Griffiths orders in the future. Zodd hates nothing more than being blueballed in a fight, Zodd losing this fight means he likely ignores what Griffith wants in the future in order to fight Guts again which is when Zodd will probably die. I don't think Zodd cares about fighting Griffith but I do think he will go against what Griffith wants when Guts proves to be the man Zodd has been looking for these last 300 years. I also agree that now that Genishka is a giant spirit tree Zodd is probably the strongest Apostle. (Grunbeld is pretty overrated all he does is beat up a guts who is already 90% dead and then get schooled by the berserker armour)
I think that maybe Zodd already made a second sacrifice, giving up a part of himself because he had nothing else to give. I think that part of him is Skull Knight
I’ve always wondered if Zodd would betray Griffith and fight along side Guts if Guts were to defeat him in battle. Zodd has shown that he respects Guts many times and unlike Griffith, Guts isn’t a demon. Guts achieved his strength by sheer determination.
I honestly think it's the opposite - Zodd hates the fact that Griffith was chosen by causality to be the next God Hand member and hates that he cannot present Griffith with an equal challenge since he's a God Hand member. This is presented in Sonia's little prophecy where she says " that he will have to choose between madness or volition" (referring to the time Guts and Zodd teamed up to stop Ganishka). I personally think that Zodd more than likely wants to fight either Skull Knight or Guts in order to get the satisfaction he's looking for. Fella's just looking for a simple mortal vs mortal battle that could excite him at the end of the day. Guts has proven to be more than excellent of a candidate ever since the fight at the Hill of Swords. From where I stand, Zodd's ultimate goal at the end of the day is to have a lethal one-on-one fight with either Skull Knight or Guts.
with this theory on zodds goal being to fight griffith it reminds me of hisoka from hunter x hunter only working with the phantom troupe so he can fight chrollo.
It's more than that. In the beginning Zodd was Moonlight boys ride, so to speak. Once the astral tree is established, the boy could then move through the branches. You see him fly away from the boat. That's one of the big problems that Mori has to contend with. Zodd is now in Elfhelm, without, so far, Sonia. Which makes no sense. Zodd cannot travel alone through the trees branches. It's stated clearly. If you even lose sight of someone for a moment, you will get lost. That's one of those inconsistencies (as of right now) that has me worried about this whole endeavor.
having zodd in his group is cool but still not even close to enough to take down griffith , they need to make charlote hate him so no marriage and destroy falconia , that might only weaken him , but we dont know whats gonna happen if griffith the one goes berserk lol
thats where you lack insight , Griffith's power comes from the maelstrom , he utterly convinces people by just existing charlotte is seduced by the fuck she got in the first place now Griffith is just obliterating the ideea
I really think that falconia will be the the last battle , i can see the godhand using griffiths dream to get all people in midland all in one place , then the godhand will use all of griffith’s followers as sacrifices (destroying his dream). Imagine that supposedly there are millions of humans in Falconia all living along demons that would make the next eclipse soo brutal too many sacrifices. After that i have some theories of what might happen if the godhand sacrifices possibly 50% of humanity , maybe they can also make it to the real world , then maybe a betrayed femto would fight a last time alongside guts , skullknight and zodd . The final battle destroy the good gand. next they can kill eachother but id imagine guts would end up alive and maybe get elected as the leader of what remains of humanity maybe the place he belongs is helping what is left of humanity . Guts is a Leader . At some point he knew that what he wanted was to be the leader of the Band of the hawk before the eclipse occured. Guts was born in struggle and he will help humanity when they will be struggling the most , giving peace to everybody can rest finally. Guts will be loved by everyone and feel safe for the rest of his life , that’s what i want for my boy
So I had a thought, perhaps Guts and Zodd will have their final battle in the next chapters of Berserk. Guts will finally defeat him in single combat, and Zodd will leave Guts with a boon that he will go on to use to fight Griffith.
in the latest chapters, it was crystalized that Guts cannot directly harm Griffith's body, his sword passed right through him as if Griffith was using Kamui. WHAT IF... Guts defeats Zodd in his final form and with his final breath, Zodd breaks off his remaining horn, and gives it to Guts? The dwarven blacksmiths could reforge the Dragonslayer Sword with Zodd's horn, giving it the ability to cut an astral being? The poetry writes itself, Griffith took Zodd's first horn, and then Zodd uses his remaining horn as a tool to get back at Griffith.
i think more is definitely in store in regards to Zodd. I hope he joins up in the defeat of the God Hand. I really hope that Griffith gets put in his place, and the God Hand take priority when it comes to the main antagonists.
that would suck hard i hope miura doesn,t replace one of the best written an fleshed out villains like grifith with boring one dimensional villains in godhands.
Only Guys & Griffith were ever able to injure Zodd, which is why he’s assisted both imo; Guts with Boscogne & Griffith with Wyald. Zodd will likely fall to Guts and force him to master the Berserker Armour and tame the BoD, seeing that the DS was able to injure Slan’s corporeal body and slice off a strand of Griffith’s hair(ch366). I theorise that Zodd may follow Guts into the final battle and sacrifice himself(human shield) to provide Guts an opportunity to defeat Griffith. He will then rest easy knowing he fell to the strongest warrior.
I think his goal is the same as Guts’ during golden. When Guts leaves the Hawks he says “I want to fight and push myself to the limit” and that is all Zodd seems to care about, he won’t even fight a person if they are weak to him. He isn’t so bloodthirsty to attack unarmed people for being alive. He only cares for the fight. His biggest flaw is his lack of mercy, if he let many live, they would return evermore powerful.
The dragonslayer does cut a single hair of griffith (well, I think) so maybe his next injuries will show up later in a different way ? Like exhaustion ?
I don't know how Griffith will end, I only hope it will be absolutely horrific. Truly alone, bereft of any hope of accomplishing any goal he set out to finish, and everything he's accomplished seen undone. Languishing in an eternal void with no redemption, escape, or respite drowning in absolute hopelessness. That is the only fate he deserves.
I haven't finished the series yet but I always thought skull knight and zodd were past versions of Griffith and guts. it makes sense when you think about SK's intentions of helping guts to begin with. also just think about the characters, zodd and guts are the brutal infantry style warriors or "berserkers" while Griffith and SK both once had a desire for power. I think sk was once in Griffiths position either becoming a godhand at one point or differing to become one.
There is a very interesting theory that zod is the beast of darkness of skullknight , they split someday but are both 2 sides of the same coin , skullknight is the previouse guts who failed .
I don't think zodd wants to fight an unstoppable enemy like the God hand I think he simply wants to fight the strongest enemy that CAN be beaten because it defeats the whole point if it's unfair and the fight is rigged from the beginning
Exactly. He wants an opponent worthy of a duel, not to run into a loaded gun. Besides the Apostles are destined to obey the God Hand. They don’t have a say on the matter.
I mean he probably wants it , but last time he tried to go up againts griffith's astral bird form he got clapped real bad then crying reminicsing sitting alone 🤣🤣
He's a lot like Thorkell in Vinland Saga, a bit more hardcore version ofcourse. But Thorkell was for example very depressed when the british war settled down and he had nothing to fight with. Got clearly off by Thorfinn even tho he took out his eye and two fingers. Oh and there is Garm ofcourse who is pretty pure sadist, maybe something between those two.
Just came to mind by seeing the 3 first volumes in the background, out of 12 now. Somewhere in future 13 propably being the last one from what I've understood Yukimura saying about chapters that will be around the last ones 🤔
It seems unlikely, but having Zodd team up with Guts again like he did against Zunisha to fight Griffith or someone else, would be awesome. Not because Zodd likes Guys, but because he respects Guts. Guts has given him a great fight on more than one occasion, plus he seems like the kind of character that doesn't like being below another. Maybe if Guts proves someone like Griffith could be hurt, someone THAT powerful, Zodd would fight Griffith with Guts to feel that rush of battle again. Or even more badass, a call back to the Golden Age arc, but with more of a three way fight, than a 2v1. A fight between a human, a demon, and a god
I think zodd could be the demon child of skull knight and the previous elf lady that died in the flashback which is how he would also know of such beings and the how they are fated to cross paths since they are blood in a way just a random idea I had
Zodd seems to be an apostle prior to Void's birth. He's not grotesque, and not willing to eat humans. Wiald seems to be an "in between", where some godhands where the old gods of nature(seen in the berserker armour). He's grotesque in is released form, but don't consume humans. He's fighting for the pleasure. And enjoying sex. I think Void 's power is the sacrifice, and it changed all the apostles : they don't have humanity, eat humans... Maybe the old godhands didn't need a sacrifice of someone else to be born.
I think the real question is.....will Puck betray Betchy???
Finally someone asking the real question
Betchy will come back bro, they always come back
Aint puck want to be a king too ? 🤣🤣
And guts is someone that is important for him too ,
Wow thats fucked up 😛😛😛
@4GOD GrriFfiiuusuU 😩
Dont forget he can control wind element
As many have highlighted recently: Guts in his recent flurry was able to cut a strand of Griffith’s hair which although subtle, has some MASSIVE implications. Zodd surely must’ve noticed this and is finding himself further intrigued by Guts’ potential. I personally think we’ll see Zodd fighting alongside Guts again later on. I envision the final Band of the Berserker to contain Guts, Casca, Schierke, Isidoro, Farnese, Serpico, Rickert, Silat, The Tapasa, Daiba, Skull Knight, and Zodd.
Now that's a fucking JRPG party. Warrior, Knight, Mage, Rogue, Priest(?), Duelist, Engineer, WHIP SWORDS, Deep Dark Fantasies GachiBoys, Gandalf the Brown, Summoned Skull from Yu Gi Oh and the big beef chungus.
That would be a Dream Team. Griffith is fucked!
@@fimmywa I would watch tha anime.
@@fimmywa Daiba could very well be a Summoner 🤔
@@jokhard8137 I can't see Guts allowing Daiba to summon a bunch of demonic creatures lmao.
I’ve always wondered what Zodd’s purpose was in the story- given he’s introduced pretty damn early.
I think Miura made his true allegiances and desires so murky for a purpose. The way the narrative portrays him makes me believe that he won’t truly be an endgame villain as the likes of Griffith and the Godhand. I think there’s more to him then simply to be Griffith’s bodyguard.
What’s interesting to me is that Zodd regularly defers to causality, whereas Guts seems to constantly be struggling against causality. I wonder if the endgame of Zodd’s character is being able to learn something from Guts…
Feel like he was foreshadowing towards the eclipse (which is why people feel Wyld is redundant) and to provide a what if Guts casted aside his humanity. Ive heard people compare him to Akuma from street fighter which is a perfect parallel
I believe slaying a God Hand member would be an honor for him. Remember, when he first meets Griffith he succumbs to his power, but if he could sense that Guts has the potential to defeat him, then Zodd would ultimately wish to fight Guts last.
True, like when he helped guts against ganishka, zodd didn't have any real reason to help him, maybe yeah to try and defeat ganishka, but in the end, he could've killed guts to stop him from hurting griffith, but I think his allegiance is really lingering whether to stay with griffith or against griffith
Im sure Griffith isn't the endgame villian either.
To be Gut's Mount ofcourse.
You sort of ignore the biggest element of Zodd's personality: he is an Apostle. We know what it means to become an Apostle. Zodd, as a human, once fell into a pit of despair so deep and painful that he sacrificed someone he loved to become Zodd the Immortal we know. As shown with the Slug Apostle (the Count? The Baron? Something like that), being an Apostle doesn't remove a person's humanity, it numbs them. Zodd is probably the strongest Apostle, but he is still human. Zodd has some trauma buried deep that, if uncovered, could force him into remembering his humanity and seeing how far he has fallen.
When he unleashes his Apostle form, he is abandoning the thing he claims to want the most - a good fight - to serve the Godhand and Femto specifically. Femto couldn't hack it as a struggler like Zodd, Skull Knight, or Guts, so he took a shortcut to absolute power. I doubt Zodd has any true loyalty to Femto, and would betray him as soon as he finds a way of avoiding the blowback.
I don’t if you have seen real life Ryan’s theory that Zodd and skull knight are the same person. I would recommend it, I don’t if it is true, but I can’t see Zodd sacrificing a love one, I feel he sacrificed a part of himself or something like that, but I’m curious as to your opinion.
@@Worm739 if Zodd ever loved someone, it would be a mentor, a swordmaster.
It would be so interesting to see his true human form when he dies. Would be funny if he is just a regular human, since he looks like a monstrosity like Wyald, who turned back into a pitiful old man. He has so many similarities to Guts compared to Griffith, at this point I don't even understand anymore why he's following Griffith or if he just has to do it because he's part of the God Hand.
If Zodd was ever a human, he only became an apostle to become even stronger than he (very likely) already was. He wouldnt have done it to cope with a weakness. If Zodd ever reverts back to human form after death, everyone will be impressed by how absolutely yoked the guy was, even before becoming an apostle. Screencap this.
@@Jarl_egbert It is not an "if", it is a "when". I don't know if Berserk will ever explore it, but it is beyond certain. The only requirement for someone to become an apostle is utmost despair and a Behelit ready to summon the Godhand. Since Zodd is objectively an apostle, then we know it must have happened. So while Zodd is unique among apostles, he is unquestionably an apostle, with all the baggage that entails.
Since Zodd lost his horn to the vision of Griffith, the other horn has been growing even larger, almost replacing the other. It would not surprise me at all if Zodd lost his other horn to Guts.
On the part you named about the Godhand not caring about Guts killing apostles as the Black Swordsman: they directly confirm it during the Count’s second ceremony - that Guts’ killing of apostles is beneath their notice.
Great video man, I really liked the content and your reasoning.
Thanks man :)
I mean, only Slan was the one that got into fight with him (excluding Griffith) and saw the guy has insane mental resistance, plus he had enough strenght to even "wound" her, so maybe yes, other members dont give a damn, yet, but Slan may try to kill him.
@@ExtremeMan10 that or Slan is just loving the sensory experiences that Guts provides.
@@SamSphinx She is messed up thats true, well we will see.
But it would be cool if Isidro is the one who defeats her, considering it was him who fought against her fanatics.
@@ExtremeMan10 Honestly Slan was just toying with Guts and that wasn't even her real form. She's ridiculous.
Rule of 3:
Golden Age: Zodd defeats Guts
Mellenium: They are evenly matched
Fantasia: Guts defeats Zodd
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They were not evenly matched the second time. Zodd was incredibly stronger than Guts in his real form. Maybe if he manages to master the armor.
@@AarturoSc guts stomps zodd with the use of berserker armor, theres no question about it
@@Twiz_E There is still doubt, guts might have a better chance than he had at the millennium arc but still zodd is THE apostle, so I have my doubts but I also have hope
@@AarturoSc idk guts was distracted by casca as soon as zodd released his form
Didn't the Dwarven blacksmith say that Guts isn't fully using the Berserker armor? It is a very Carl Jung concept for someone to become their true self they need to integrate their shadow. I'm not exactly sure how that would play out in the page but I'm pretty sure that's the concept they're going for.
Man those dwarves about get clapped real soon at 367 and griffith probably gonna rape dunnan in front of skullknight while puck flying around jerking off with his betchy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀
exactly. Jordan Peterson would be proud of you
@@carlosramirezrivera9314 hahah one can only hope! 🤣
The jungian shadow calls for individuation where it’s a process where the conscious confronts the shadow and if I’m not mistaken either one is consumed by their shadow. Or one reaches reconciliation with their shadow in a process where the become one.
I think then you can view people who fall and become apostles fall to their shadow and are consequently consumed by it.
But that’s just my theory
@@dannymaurice5543 precisely, took the word outta my head just didn't know how to explain it. I feel like Guts and King Gyserich(idk on spelling) are two sides of the same coin where the king was consumed by his shadow. Thanks for that!
Zodd is possibly the most powerful apostle because he is good at everything. The other generals have expertise in one aspect, but are weak in the rest. Let's take the example of Grunbeld: He is extremely resistant, has flames and strength, but his agility is mediocre and has no ability to deal with long-range attacks.
I recall a comment on a video of Sign II, the guy was saying that regardless of everyother apostles and his own strength and might he would never want to face « something » like zodd. Something so bestial, so overwhelming, something that speaks to our inner warrior and tells him: « man, you’re fucked, you better die quick ». I absolutely agree and it goes without saying then, that I do agree on your post. Zodd is just… Something else. A monster driven only by his warriors spirit
Scary stuff man
So instead of zodd being a jack of trades he’s the master of trades
@@d.a.u.d exactly. Zodd gives you a sense of hopelessness in anything you can do to him in a fight. Making a comparison, despite Grunbeld being more resistant, Zodd has probably Berserk's biggest healing factor, making him able to simply battle indefinitely.
@@GoblinAttacForce in the physical realm, probably yes
"No way to deal with long range attacks"
*Loads cannon shield*
I’m feeling a darth vader like turn for my boy zodd.
If Guts is Luke here, and Zodd is Vader, then… 😳
Skull Knight is Obi-Wan... and then Casca is ...
@@tuanmudax Guts sister?!?! What a twist
Casca is obviously Yoda.
@@AarturoSc nah man casca is padme but a bit hotter , puck is yoda 🤣
If Zodd and Raksas betrayed Griffith and joined the resistance, that would increase Gutts odds by an incalculable amount. Raksas has said he would do so from the beginning anyway. With those two off Griffiths team, Locus, Grunbeld and Irvine would be the only 3 apostles really standing in the way of Griffith, and two of them could be at least stalled by the turncoats.
Would certainly be an interesting route to take, but I don't think Guts would be happy about working with an apostle, and I don't think Serpico would be happy having berserker armor Guts and Zodd to worry about
I think Guts would not say no to an apostle if things were desperate
@@mugenbop I mean yeah, he helped Zodd during the Ganishka
Zodd is not some mere apostle.
@@mugenbop True they did work together fighting Ganishka, and perhaps Zodd respects Guts a lot more after seeing what he can do, the more I think about it he more plausible it seems
@@mugenbop yea thats actually one of his characteristic , so human and stuff and reader always hyped up about zodd and guts being bros anyway
Savagery bromance 🤣🤣
I love a good twist, and this would be a very good one. I think it depends how far his honor goes and if he views betrayal as dishonorable or if his bloodlust overpowers his reasoning
I think Zodd will betray Griffith but in the sense he refuses to listen to griffiths orders, not working for guts. Zodd values strength, and while Griffith is technically the strongest, it must be boring to technically be unable to harm him or have anywhere near a fair fight with him in Zodds eyes. Guts is different, he can bleed, so Zodd will become enamored in fighting him.
Yea i think he wont kill guts , even if its an order
Its been shown many times before , he even kinda protected him twice , when guts was at doldrey and when they both done slayed ganishka , even after they first met , zodd was trying to kil griffith first despite , guts was the first that encounter him
When Zodd threw his sword to Gutts at the battle of Doldrey, I think it was more part of causality, something necessary to allow Griffith to climb higher. Without that sword, Gutts and Griffith would have been killed.
If Zodd had his own desire for keeping Gutts alive, it was planned by the Idea of Evil, planned by causality.
yes, even if Guts win berserk , still planned by casuality. Any outcome is the same
@@MTGnEWbie420 that, I am not sure. From what I understand, Gutts was not supposed to survive the first eclipse. While it is difficult, even near impossible, it is still possible to break free, or at least disturb causality.
@@ghyslainabel yes, but we dont know if void actually read all casuality perfectly, so he might be wrong. Or the idea of evil either
It's Guts with one T, not two.
I can see some symbolism happening such as where Griffith had cut Zod'd's left horn off, Guts will cut the right horn off. Zodd could be the last wall Guts has to overcome to from a physical standpoint and cutting his right horn off would be a defining moment to us readers showing us that Guts is ready to face Griffith.
I'm gonna enjoy a Guts/Zodd team-up, after the Fantasia Arc is done, and Skull Knight becomes the enemy. Imagine Zodd's perspective on the Berserker armour and the 1 on 1 duel perspective he can provide Guts..
Skull knight can’t become an enemy. It’s already hopeless enough. We are 60-70% though the story. Problem solving time is coming. Not adding more problems
Zodd joining Guts party would be soo amazing and fun , but maybe it has no sense but a villain turning good is something this series has never explored
@@Vicenteprz What about Farnese and Serpico? They started as antagonists and joined Guts.
Yea savagery bromance
Whos got the biggest dick too
@@AarturoSc let's not forget Zodd slayed a bunch of Guts' comrades during his debut. Farnese and Serpico did not.
Imagine Guts killing Zodd in combat and it being enough to power up the dragon slayer to wound Griffith/Femto. Think about how powerful Zodd is as an apostle and his blood and dark essence was absorbed into the sword giving him a warriors death and also granting Guts the ability to do the impossible and destroy and godhand.
@GG for me that is not weak at all , it would give zodd a crucial purpose
@GG I disagree, I think it would fit Zodd's character arc perfectly. That way he would get to battle to the death and die to the most feral warrior he's ever met (perhaps if Guts manages to master the Berserker Armor?) and become a literal God Killing Sword, an instrument of death so powerful that it can be used to end *anything* -- even something as unkillable and overpowering as Griffith. I don't think it would devalue him, on the contrary I think he would consider it an honor.
As things stand, there must be more to Zodd. He can't be happy the way things are, with him being relegated to act as Griffith's furry babysitter and all.
Wow that's beautiful
Great video, I looked through your uploads and saw a lot more videos I wanna watch
Glad to hear it hope you enjoy them ✌🏻
I think the conversation between Zodd and Sonia was foreshadowing the fact that Zodd eventually would join Guts in some way besides the fight against Ganishka. I was always expecting Zodd and Silat to join Guts' party but since Guts detests apostles I wonder how Miura would have concluded Zodd's arc.
He probably would die the death he always wanted is a warrior's death. He probably would accept that because he probably didn't die that way when he became an apostle. Because why did he become one in the first place? You need to have a need to be an apostle someone tried to kill him in a dishonorable way and he couldn't take that.
That's a good idea, all apostles have reasons to use their behelits and become what they are, zodd was clearly a strong warrior who won every battle he's ever fought, so him dying a dishonorable death through whatever reason could've been the trigger to become an apostle
It's funny to imagine Zodd sitting there wondering how Guts is doing.
I heard a pretty good theory a while ago in which Zodd and Skull Knight were the same person, the old conqueror king, dissociated by the use of the berserker armor. Like the wolf we see Guts with when he goes full madman gained concsiousness of his own or smth.
that’s a really neat theory. especially with the way they’ve spoken to eachother like ancient intertwined rivals
My theory is that they were two close friends but had a similar relationship to Guts and Griffith. Except where Guts chose to leave Griffith and his ambitions, maybe Zodd betrayed Skull knight (when he was king) to the godhand in exchange for becoming an apostle. Zodd probably always had that desire to be the best warrior, so in order to be able to be the equal of Skull knight/king he wanted a power up. I can see Zodd possibly regretting his decision after seeing what happens in the eclipse (which would explain why he didn't participate in Griffith's eclipse) and growing to resent the godhand.
being the same is the most retarded theory imo
He wants to feel alive, he wants a good fight, he wants something that he just cannot have because of how powerful he is
He wont feel alive fighting griffith thats for sure , he might not kill guts even if its an order from femto , but to go up againts him ? Zodd is not stupid , he even willing teamed up with guts to go againts ganishka , he might go stupid tryna punch bunch of fog but he didnt
If what Zodd wants most in life is a great challenge in battle, what greater challenge than the Godhand themselves? What if Zodd forges an alliance with Guts and the Skull Knight to take them on? That would turn Zodd the Apostle into Zodd the Apostate
He has no chance of defeating them, that seems a very strong reason to not try
Well we saw what Griffith could do with ganishka. An apostle has no chance against the god hands. Their power comes from the godhand.
Ganishka was an Apostle that forced Zodd to team up with Guts. He couldn’t face him alone. And that was before Ganishka used his Shiva form.
Now let’s put it into perspective: Ganishka’s Shiva form wasn’t even a threat to Griffith, rather an asset for the Godhand’s plan. He could have dealt with him without trying. How exactly would Zodd think joining forces with Guts and Skull Knight be enough? They are on a WHOLE different level that wouldn’t give Zodd what he yearns for: a fight with an opponent that could he could kill but also get him killed. It would be the same thing as suicide.
@@AarturoSc So the question is...can Apostles become stronger? Can they be upgraded? Does an Apostle always remain around the same level of strength they were initiated into? Are there relics or artifacts in the Berserk universe that could make an Apostle even more powerful?
@@paragondreams340 Apostles received their strength from the God Hand. That should tell you enough about them betraying them and how it would end.
Ganishka did got stronger, but he lost his ability to think properly and was used by the God Hand to further their motives. Any Apostle would be simply powerless against the God Hand since they are victims of causality.
It was my theory that Miura intended for Zodd to join Guts at some point for the reason you described. Additionally, it seems to me there is a potential civil war brewing among the apostles as there are two distinct factions.
A minority of the apostles still look human on their human forms and they also have the most powerful demon forms. The Count from early on, Grunbeld, the Silver Knight, the Hunter, and Zodd being the primary examples. It is notable that these apostles also abstain from the worst appetites of the other apostles, and look with disdain on their twisted brothers. They also - aside from Grunbeld - have shared moments of empathy with humans.
The majority of the apostles on the other hand are all cannibals and presumably rapists. They don't look human even in their human forms and their demon forms are horribley twisted abominations. Some of them appear to even be weaker in those forms... I suspect they are the most evil and twisted at heart, slaves to the most horrible of appetites (Wyald and the seprent broke from this pattern, but they were also introduced some 2-3 decades earlier).
If Griffith is weakened there is no doubt these apostles will turn on the humans they currently protect with glee. I believe the Hunter and the Knight would protect humanity. Zodd would do so for more selfish reasons.
We know Miura is heavily influenced by Jung and Nietschie (sp?). The majority of apostles have failed to incorporate the monster and ate therefore monsters... As all men who fail to do so are. Zodd represents a faction of apostles that have... And while they all did unforgivable evil in order to get the power they have... I see humanity in the more human ones. Grunbeld and the Knight are bound by honor, the latter shows compassion to soldiers. The Hunter carves his own path, he is the snake or the tiger who will remain absolutely still as he waits for the right moment to strike. He also shows compassion to forehead girl. Zodd has a more primitive martial code.
Oh, the Count did cannibalize people too, but like with the Serpent, he was from a Beraerk that Casca wasn't even a part of.
I see you what you mean.
However those stronger Apostles like Count,Snake Baron, and Wyald were still defeated in the end and by a human at that.
I think the morale of the story is that the wicked/evil Apostles no matter how weak or strong they are will end up dead and burning in the abyss/hell
While the more “noble” ones like Grunbeld,Locus,Irvine, and possibly even Zodd will live on and find a purpose as protectors of humanity.
Why is zodd written so intelligently, he has pride, honor, and is fascinated with the art of battle, like WTF why is he an apostle??
I think Zodd loyalty lies with whoever can defeat him. I believe out of all of the godhand apostles. Zodd has a better moral compass and respect though who can challenge him and defeat him.
Good theory mate. Keep up the good work!
Thanks your highness king bro
Zood is like a level max level player in a low level server mmorpg.
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Zodd reminds me of Guts. A more war lover version of guts
It's an interesting theory, but I don't think Zodd would go against Griffith. He's either going to protect Griffith until the very last chapter or just die in the next 4 chapters, and then hell breaks loose on Elfheim with the new arc.
That dindt happened yet. So...
I feel like something that everyone forgets is the fact that Rickert was able to slap Griffith, able to physically touch him. Rickert seems far more in line with his emotions, far more well-balanced - could this have something to do with it all?
I think it’s because Rickert caught Griffith off guard
@@greedykiryu1755 I also think that Griffith did not see it coming.
@@ghyslainabel proof the Godhand don't have complete control over causality and cant foresee it all Ha-Ha.
i think there was no reason why griffith should had avoid that. so he did let it happen. although he was in his role as the holy friend of humanity to gain trust and build up falconia; so being vunurable as the same time make's him even more special in human eyes.
I think it's because Griffith allowed it.
Leaving this here for when it happens.
I think Zodd is to Guts what Bane is to Batman. Both are much alike but also operate on very different principles.
Interesting thoughts!.. But the gap between Fimto and Zod in power is vast.. And Zod realizes that.. I believe he serves Griffith because he knows that strong fighters will be drawn to him either to fight him or serve him.
Good point actually :)
I’ve always seen Zodd as the Apostle version of Guts in the new Band of the Hawk, I think Zodd is mostly just their to symbolize being the replacement of Guts to Griffith.
So when Guys fights Zodd it’s almost like he’s fighting a version of himself through an Apostle filtered mirror, and for that reason I don’t feel like he’s going to betray Griffith…or at least not unless Griffith betrays him first
zodd is my favorite character in berserk. that guts team up has been my favorite part
I mean it is possible considering Ganishka hated the Godhand, and Guts teamed up with Zodd to take him down, so they've been shown working together before. This also means that it is possible for Zodd to betray Griffith.
It's kind of wholesome Zodd is being the watchful nanny of the moonlight boy each full moon. Wonder if he has a boostet seat for those moon lit flights
I think the real question is when is there going to be a acceptable anime adaption for berserk
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Im curious with how zodd is handling Griffith now being one with the moonlight child. He’s gradually become something like Griffiths right hand man (probably because of the natural gravitation Griffith has being the strongest man/godhand, zodd positioned himself at his side because he has his own goal of fighting the worlds most capable champion). I mean because zodd didn’t show up when the moonlight child was on elf helm, all that time he was near by almost as a chaperone. he only came to battle when Griffith took form… to fight guts… maybe he’s protecting Griffith from guts to fight moonlight child one day?? Maybe im crazy idk but moonlight child has a lot of “soft” power rn because no one wants to harm him. if he were to get older or become stronger inside Griffith, what would happen then? Would he have to fight to preserve his own autonomy? If he did and won would that kill or only weaken Griffith? And if so, would he then take the reigns his father left before him, fight zodd and Griffith? Is that why zodd is staying near by?? For that chance?? it’s just a rant but I just have so many questions…
i fucking love your take on this perhaps im inexpiernced with story telling but doesn't the son fulffils the father's goals usually in stories ?
@@INSNNE haha thank you :) I think it depends on the story but that was more of me going off the deep end with my theories 😅 moonlight is just a very unique character in the manga who is and already has impacted everything. We’ve only been able to speculate that skullknight defeated a godhand (I don’t think that’s the case but who knows!) but moonlight boy is the only being that’s ever come into contact with a godhand. It just hasn’t been done before definitively. That in itself is impressive and it was done without force…maybe it has something to do with causality maybe he just has the same determination to live just like when guts was born who knows!
You know as you were explaining Zodd I was like, *"Man he sounds like Goku but evil."* then 3:36 happened and you took the words right out of my mouth lmao
Personally I think Zodd is going to come up short against Guts in their next fight and Griffith will save Zodd and this is what may trigger Zodd to ignore Griffiths orders in the future.
Zodd hates nothing more than being blueballed in a fight, Zodd losing this fight means he likely ignores what Griffith wants in the future in order to fight Guts again which is when Zodd will probably die.
I don't think Zodd cares about fighting Griffith but I do think he will go against what Griffith wants when Guts proves to be the man Zodd has been looking for these last 300 years.
I also agree that now that Genishka is a giant spirit tree Zodd is probably the strongest Apostle. (Grunbeld is pretty overrated all he does is beat up a guts who is already 90% dead and then get schooled by the berserker armour)
I think that maybe Zodd already made a second sacrifice, giving up a part of himself because he had nothing else to give. I think that part of him is Skull Knight
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When you made the comparison to goku I think a more accurate figure would’ve been kenpachi zaraki but great video dude.
I’ve always wondered if Zodd would betray Griffith and fight along side Guts if Guts were to defeat him in battle. Zodd has shown that he respects Guts many times and unlike Griffith, Guts isn’t a demon. Guts achieved his strength by sheer determination.
I honestly think it's the opposite - Zodd hates the fact that Griffith was chosen by causality to be the next God Hand member and hates that he cannot present Griffith with an equal challenge since he's a God Hand member. This is presented in Sonia's little prophecy where she says " that he will have to choose between madness or volition" (referring to the time Guts and Zodd teamed up to stop Ganishka). I personally think that Zodd more than likely wants to fight either Skull Knight or Guts in order to get the satisfaction he's looking for. Fella's just looking for a simple mortal vs mortal battle that could excite him at the end of the day. Guts has proven to be more than excellent of a candidate ever since the fight at the Hill of Swords. From where I stand, Zodd's ultimate goal at the end of the day is to have a lethal one-on-one fight with either Skull Knight or Guts.
with this theory on zodds goal being to fight griffith it reminds me of hisoka from hunter x hunter only working with the phantom troupe so he can fight chrollo.
Zodd will do what Zodd chooses. Great take btw
Battle beast from Invincible is closer to what I think Zod is about.
It's more than that. In the beginning Zodd was Moonlight boys ride, so to speak. Once the astral tree is established, the boy could then move through the branches. You see him fly away from the boat. That's one of the big problems that Mori has to contend with. Zodd is now in Elfhelm, without, so far, Sonia. Which makes no sense. Zodd cannot travel alone through the trees branches. It's stated clearly. If you even lose sight of someone for a moment, you will get lost. That's one of those inconsistencies (as of right now) that has me worried about this whole endeavor.
Great content man
having zodd in his group is cool but still not even close to enough to take down griffith , they need to make charlote hate him so no marriage and destroy falconia , that might only weaken him , but we dont know whats gonna happen if griffith the one goes berserk lol
thats where you lack insight , Griffith's power comes from the maelstrom , he utterly convinces people by just existing charlotte is seduced by the fuck she got in the first place now Griffith is just obliterating the ideea
I really think that falconia will be the the last battle , i can see the godhand using griffiths dream to get all people in midland all in one place , then the godhand will use all of griffith’s followers as sacrifices (destroying his dream). Imagine that supposedly there are millions of humans in Falconia all living along demons that would make the next eclipse soo brutal too many sacrifices. After that i have some theories of what might happen if the godhand sacrifices possibly 50% of humanity , maybe they can also make it to the real world , then maybe a betrayed femto would fight a last time alongside guts , skullknight and zodd . The final battle destroy the good gand. next they can kill eachother but id imagine guts would end up alive and maybe get elected as the leader of what remains of humanity maybe the place he belongs is helping what is left of humanity .
Guts is a Leader . At some point he knew that what he wanted was to be the leader of the Band of the hawk before the eclipse occured.
Guts was born in struggle and he will help humanity when they will be struggling the most , giving peace to everybody can rest finally. Guts will be loved by everyone and feel safe for the rest of his life , that’s what i want for my boy
@@Vicenteprz when this man's ambition will crumble you will face a death you can never escape , that doesn't necessarily is the eclipse isn't it ?
@@INSNNE now this is a good point
@@Vicenteprz its interesting to see what would happen to griffth if he lose it all at the end , maybe he lost it and hes the one that goes berserk
I have a feeling your channel is gonna blow up, love your videos man keep it up 🤙🏻 peace from nz
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Great vid man
Thanks sir :)
Zodd says what he wants when he first fights Guts
He wants a worthy opponent.
I always wanted to believe guts and zodd would team up, I absolutely LOVED it when they attacked ganishka together
Great review on Zodd The Great :3
So I had a thought, perhaps Guts and Zodd will have their final battle in the next chapters of Berserk. Guts will finally defeat him in single combat, and Zodd will leave Guts with a boon that he will go on to use to fight Griffith.
in the latest chapters, it was crystalized that Guts cannot directly harm Griffith's body, his sword passed right through him as if Griffith was using Kamui. WHAT IF... Guts defeats Zodd in his final form and with his final breath, Zodd breaks off his remaining horn, and gives it to Guts? The dwarven blacksmiths could reforge the Dragonslayer Sword with Zodd's horn, giving it the ability to cut an astral being? The poetry writes itself, Griffith took Zodd's first horn, and then Zodd uses his remaining horn as a tool to get back at Griffith.
@@erhiueQWEF guts removed a single hair from Griffith in the latest chapter
he.s not only 300 years old as an apostle , he knows gaiseric , his fated foe and jm reiterating , his FATED FOE
it seems to be in Zodd's character that his loyalty to griffith is to see how strong he is like he did with Guts
i think more is definitely in store in regards to Zodd. I hope he joins up in the defeat of the God Hand. I really hope that Griffith gets put in his place, and the God Hand take priority when it comes to the main antagonists.
that would suck hard i hope miura doesn,t replace one of the best written an fleshed out villains like grifith with boring one dimensional villains in godhands.
@@QuantumtestGaming Miura is gone bro 😥
One important question, that I haven't seen theories of. Who's behelit is Betchy?
Who Will Use Guts’ Behelit?
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Only Guys & Griffith were ever able to injure Zodd, which is why he’s assisted both imo; Guts with Boscogne & Griffith with Wyald. Zodd will likely fall to Guts and force him to master the Berserker Armour and tame the BoD, seeing that the DS was able to injure Slan’s corporeal body and slice off a strand of Griffith’s hair(ch366). I theorise that Zodd may follow Guts into the final battle and sacrifice himself(human shield) to provide Guts an opportunity to defeat Griffith. He will then rest easy knowing he fell to the strongest warrior.
I think his goal is the same as Guts’ during golden. When Guts leaves the Hawks he says “I want to fight and push myself to the limit” and that is all Zodd seems to care about, he won’t even fight a person if they are weak to him. He isn’t so bloodthirsty to attack unarmed people for being alive. He only cares for the fight.
His biggest flaw is his lack of mercy, if he let many live, they would return evermore powerful.
That describes Zenos from ffxiv perfectly, wanting nothing but a true battle and adversary. Very similar characters
The dragonslayer does cut a single hair of griffith (well, I think) so maybe his next injuries will show up later in a different way ? Like exhaustion ?
hey mugen, great video, really made me think about zodd but I'm curious - the god hand offers you a doob. do you accept ?
Yessir!!
I don't know how Griffith will end, I only hope it will be absolutely horrific. Truly alone, bereft of any hope of accomplishing any goal he set out to finish, and everything he's accomplished seen undone. Languishing in an eternal void with no redemption, escape, or respite drowning in absolute hopelessness. That is the only fate he deserves.
I like the theory of zodd being skull knights beast of darkness but he’s not old enough .
I haven't finished the series yet but I always thought skull knight and zodd were past versions of Griffith and guts. it makes sense when you think about SK's intentions of helping guts to begin with. also just think about the characters, zodd and guts are the brutal infantry style warriors or "berserkers" while Griffith and SK both once had a desire for power. I think sk was once in Griffiths position either becoming a godhand at one point or differing to become one.
It does not bro bc Griffith is a god hand and Zodd only an apostle. Skull knight has his history with Void which is hinted at at various times
Bruh zodd is the battle beast of berserk, they both just want a worthy opponent
zodd vs battle beast would be cool
Zodd Is kinda Like Akuma from Street fighter , He's looking for A worthy opponent and Won't Kill just anyone
Have you seen the video of Tranquil Dionysian about Zodd and Skull Knight?
Zodd wants a final battle
I think zod is the most bad ass antagonist
Puck is guts best friend; Zodd is griffith's pet
That FFX music suits the discussion a bit too well
💪🏼 very happy with this reaction
There is a very interesting theory that zod is the beast of darkness of skullknight , they split someday but are both 2 sides of the same coin , skullknight is the previouse guts who failed .
I don't think zodd wants to fight an unstoppable enemy like the God hand
I think he simply wants to fight the strongest enemy that CAN be beaten because it defeats the whole point if it's unfair and the fight is rigged from the beginning
If Guts can harm a member of the Godhand , Zodd might be able to as well
Exactly.
He wants an opponent worthy of a duel, not to run into a loaded gun.
Besides the Apostles are destined to obey the God Hand. They don’t have a say on the matter.
I mean he probably wants it , but last time he tried to go up againts griffith's astral bird form he got clapped real bad then crying reminicsing sitting alone 🤣🤣
Zodd likes to fight
Nosferatu Zodd is the source material for Bloodthirsters from Warhammer a la Games Workshop.
he's the only apostle I can somewhat respect.
He's a lot like Thorkell in Vinland Saga, a bit more hardcore version ofcourse. But Thorkell was for example very depressed when the british war settled down and he had nothing to fight with. Got clearly off by Thorfinn even tho he took out his eye and two fingers. Oh and there is Garm ofcourse who is pretty pure sadist, maybe something between those two.
Just came to mind by seeing the 3 first volumes in the background, out of 12 now. Somewhere in future 13 propably being the last one from what I've understood Yukimura saying about chapters that will be around the last ones 🤔
It seems unlikely, but having Zodd team up with Guts again like he did against Zunisha to fight Griffith or someone else, would be awesome. Not because Zodd likes Guys, but because he respects Guts. Guts has given him a great fight on more than one occasion, plus he seems like the kind of character that doesn't like being below another. Maybe if Guts proves someone like Griffith could be hurt, someone THAT powerful, Zodd would fight Griffith with Guts to feel that rush of battle again. Or even more badass, a call back to the Golden Age arc, but with more of a three way fight, than a 2v1. A fight between a human, a demon, and a god
More like Akuma than Goku. Even looks like him.
I'm with you good vid
zodd is basically Thorkell of berserk
Guts and Zodd are the same in a lot of ways. The cherry on top is that he's Griffiths right hand man now.
Nosferatu Zodd wants a good fight with a worthy adversary. He seeks pure pleasure in combat against a stronger opponent
What was the song playing in the background at around 12:00 in? It sounds so familiar! Maybe Cowboy Bebop?
Great pretender actually :)
bear in mind Guts did cut off a strand of hair off of Griffith, some people theorize he is just so fast that Guts can’t properly hit him
Ooooh didn’t think of that theory :3
He’s more like Akuma, from Street Fighter, than Goku. They both even look the same lol
Mane wat is skull knight doing right now a godhand member shows up zodd shows up and he just sits back lmfao
Honestly, I was kindve digging guts and zodd working together that time.
I think zodd could be the demon child of skull knight and the previous elf lady that died in the flashback which is how he would also know of such beings and the how they are fated to cross paths since they are blood in a way just a random idea I had
Zodd seems to be an apostle prior to Void's birth. He's not grotesque, and not willing to eat humans.
Wiald seems to be an "in between", where some godhands where the old gods of nature(seen in the berserker armour). He's grotesque in is released form, but don't consume humans. He's fighting for the pleasure. And enjoying sex.
I think Void 's power is the sacrifice, and it changed all the apostles : they don't have humanity, eat humans...
Maybe the old godhands didn't need a sacrifice of someone else to be born.
Interesting take