It sounds, pretty much like the Jehovah's Witnesses, Orthodox Judaism, Scientology, etc. Then people wonder why membership in these institutions are in decline.
Or the Christadelphians. They are practically gone. Their numbers are much much smaller than these above mentioned. John Thomas had slaves, advocated for the south, though from England. Robert Roberts called the aborigines heartens, without God. The ones who followed, have remained racist, regardless of what we understand about human beings. Those in the south, hate democrats, stress Republican views, while not voting so they can claim they aren’t political.
I wasn’t raised Mormon, but I spent many years in the church/community with my extended family. This is exactly what is going on in that church, it’s extremely unfortunate that such radical views and almost cult like behavior is still accepted among the community. Beautiful video, thank you for educating others!
You are right on. My husband and I were raised Mormon. We were married in the temple and all that jazz and still had temple recommends when we both left mormonism (different years). It was built on lies from the beginning. For what "good" the church does do, it doesn't correct all of the bad they do or have done. The fact that you take class after class to "know your religion " and yet they never tell you the truth. And you listen to their apologists and realize how poor their arguments are. . I have nothing nice to say about their founding "prophet" that freaking conman. Best wishes to you and your family. Good luck with your channel. There are many ex mormon channels on here.
I was baptized at 8 because my mother was baptized. Most people don't choose their own religion and I was no exception. I spent most of life as a TBM, I went on mission at 19, I was married in my Bishop's back yard at 34 then sealed in the temple with my wife an son at 35. I was happy in the church till age 50 and started a faith premoting journey to learn about the history and real life of Joseph Smith. After about 4 months of study and avoiding anything that would be considered anti Mormon, it became painfully obvious that my whole world view was based on a 19th century conman. Yes I was devastated and now I am an agnostic.
As someone who was never mormon, I read the title and thought "in other news, water is wet." Thi is a great channel and your videos have great production value!
Haha well thank you! My husband does all the filming and stuff, if you wanna check out his channel it’s th-cam.com/channels/VzmZWixXD7Pl04HUlU4R3A.html
I left too, but I was not & am not a racist. The church doctrine is racist in certain areas, but all the members certain are not even though the doctrine is racist. The whole Lamanite verbiage is over the top....that when they repented their skin turned light!!....🤣🤣🤣....like being white = righteous LOL!!!
@@DesertSky928 right, when the whole time Jesus wasn’t white.. and I definitely wasn’t saying anyone was racist I just feel like if people are going to choose to believe in something, the thing they are choosing to believe shouldn’t be racist
Hey, thank you for sharing your experience. And, I'm really inspired in the way that you film, I've been studying documentaries of people's personal experiences and your series is SUPER good so far. (I'm not sure if that means much, coming from someone that's never made a real film before) I've really needed to see something like this because I'm currently going through my own faith crisis, and I'm still a minor, and I live in Utah. So, I'm stuck. It is so tough in the middle of it all. Thank you so much.
Hey thank you so much! My husband is actually who does the filming his channel is th-cam.com/channels/VzmZWixXD7Pl04HUlU4R3A.html I’m really happy to be here for all of you that are going through something like this. I went through it for years and I will be a voice in the dark for you.
I was half asleep when I read the title and thought it was going to be about racism within the Book of Mormon musical- but I got something far more profound and interesting. I absolutely loved the camera work, the lighting, and the words throughout this video. In just a short 5 minutes I honestly felt like I had watched an entire film, I cant wait to see more from you, thank you for telling your story :)
These videos are so beautiful, powerful, and engaging. I'm so happy to have found this so early on in the story and can't wait to learn more about your experience.
Keep speaking the truth! I was a convert from age ten and left at 16. Rejected by family. I’m in my 50’s and there’s still tension. The church is a facade and a cult.
Oh wow! Well I’m glad you stuck to your convictions and stayed true to yourself. I am sorry you and your family still have tension, although I understand the tension very well unfortunately
I think the Mormon Church has twisted the Bible. When my FIL passed away, my MIL was grateful because he had fully converted and was temple worthy right before he died. I asked what was important about that and she said that it was important because they were sealed and could now be married for "time and all eternity." I found this disturbing because the Bible describes heaven and specifically says in the book of Revelation that in heaven there will be no marriage or giving in marriage. There is so much about this religion that specifically goes against what the Bible says, I don't even know where to begin. The Bible also says that "the word of God shouldn't be changed or added to, not by a sentence or a word or a punctuation mark. This is something Joseph Smith blatantly ignored. I have been married to my husband for 30 years, and I have had to defend my beliefs in God and religion every day since I was married against my Mormon in-laws.
a part of me will always miss it and i have to remind myself that i’m better off this way. it’s hard getting out of something you knew to be true your whole life, only to have to completely reset everything you ever thought and believed. sometimes i miss the feeling of belonging to something, or sometimes i miss being so sure in my beliefs. but i’m much better off now. it’s obviously a lot to work through but i’m better off knowing what i know now. you’re right, we’re free.
Obviously everyone's church experience is different. However, there are good things in the church and good people. No one is taught to "shun" for lack of a better word. We are taught to love and appreciate our differences with other religions and people. We are taught to be kind and to love everyone regardless of race, privilege or any other factor. Because if Jesus were standing right next to you he would not li e you any less because of a tattoo. I promise you are loved and if you have any questions please reach out to people and ask questions, go to a youth activity, attend sacrament meeting, but even if this is not what you believe, most everyone can agree we all should be kind and uplifting rather than pushing down those who have wronged us or don't believe the same as us. We are all children of God who loves us 💞
Reagan, let's be real though. LDS have pretty stiff rules about behavior, appearance and life in general. If I consistently came to Sacrament meeting showing my tatoos, in jeans and a t-shirt, I wouldn't be accepted. If I don't obey the WOW, I wouldn't be accepted by my "church family". If they found out I couldn't take Sacrament, your kids couldn't play with my kids. Shunning isn't a mormon word. That's why you don't recognize it, but the disassociation of the non-faithful by the faithful is exactly that. The temple recommend is a prime example. If you are worthy, you get to go. If not, you're shunned, made to miss, endowments, marriages, baptisms of family. If you're an adult and temple worthy, you already know this. If not, don't challenge the narrative and you'll do ok. Plenty of LDS are fine with that.
@@AngiesCousin it's not a matter of shunning or excluding in fact its the exact opposite, it's a matter of including everyone no matter what. Heavenly father sets rules to keep us safe but we also were given the gift of free agency so we can all choose how to take those "rules" and how we apply them to our lives. But there are still consequences eternally for breaking these so called rules.
@@WhenIWasMormon It’s understandable that many would read the scriptures and associate the word ‘black’ in all of its forms, relating to man, in the same way they believe it to be fact in our society. The Saints, and those of other faiths as well, instinctually assume that this word is in reference to race, nationality, or color of skin. . . . The LDS version of the King James Bible and the Book of Mormon help us to understand that the word black is actually a Hebrew idiom, meaning gloomy, dejected, or spiritual darkness, and has nothing to do with skin tone. We see in Jeremiah 8:21, the LDS version of the King James Bible footnotes the word ‘black’ where it is defined as a Hebrew idiom, dealing with the mental, emotional, or spiritual state of the individual. In the context of its common meaning in Hebrew as indicating a spiritual not a physical state. I am Colombian with native Latin American blood. I am dark and I love my dark skin color and never felt any less in The LDS faith. Never thought it was a curse or ashamed of my skin color. Now if people want to think that for me, I ignore it, as I know I'm aChild of God and He loves us all the same.
@@jenneferc8768 .. what you don’t seems to understand is that it WAS TAUGHT FOR DECADES THAT IT WAS IN FACT SKIN COLOR!! It’s only recently that the church has tried to change the narrative and claim it’s about a black soul. YOU ARE WRONG!! Look into the churches truth claims, look into church history. COME TO UTAH, FUND OUT FOR YOURSELF!
Why dont you join a affirming christian church that supports LGBT ? Why not give it a try? God exist and he still loves you. Leaving Mormon Church was a good thing but Dont give up on the real God. There are many Churches that are affirming to LGBT that will provide you love and support and strength.
Unfortunately, this will get dismissed by most people when they read the headline. I know, for me, I dismiss anything nowadays when something is called racist. It’s a term that has been ruined by the new generation that literally think EVERYTHING is racist. The Book of Mormon, does in fact have racist verses. I def think you’re stretching with the term lamanite being racist. And by stretching I mean you’re doing exactly what I said early where EVERYTHING is racist.
@@WhenIWasMormon slow down and think. I said the term lamanite isn’t racist. I clearly said there were versus in the BOM that are racist. Saying “lamanite” is NOT racist.
@@Youknowitsmeman saying laminate referring to people that were “cursed with a skin of blackness” is indeed racist when they shouldn’t be referred to as anything else other than just people. Also telling someone to slow down and think? That’s that self righteous godhood priesthood authority at work I think. I slow down or bow for no one.
@@WhenIWasMormon unfortunate for you I’m not a Mormon so…… No priesthood authority here. You’re so brave. You slow down for no one. Oohhhh. Gives me chills. Lamanites refers to the family they came from. I agree that we should all just be called people. Hopefully you don’t refer to any black people as African Americans. Cause that it denigrating them to a group of people from whence they came. Same thing as family. 🤯
It sounds, pretty much like the Jehovah's Witnesses, Orthodox Judaism, Scientology, etc. Then people wonder why membership in these institutions are in decline.
Churches and their Religious DOGMA is being exposed, for that which was done in darkness IS NOW being brought to Light! #judgementisHERE
Or the Christadelphians. They are practically gone. Their numbers are much much smaller than these above mentioned.
John Thomas had slaves, advocated for the south, though from England. Robert Roberts called the aborigines heartens, without God.
The ones who followed, have remained racist, regardless of what we understand about human beings.
Those in the south, hate democrats, stress Republican views, while not voting so they can claim they aren’t political.
I wasn’t raised Mormon, but I spent many years in the church/community with my extended family. This is exactly what is going on in that church, it’s extremely unfortunate that such radical views and almost cult like behavior is still accepted among the community. Beautiful video, thank you for educating others!
You are right on.
My husband and I were raised Mormon. We were married in the temple and all that jazz and still had temple recommends when we both left mormonism (different years). It was built on lies from the beginning.
For what "good" the church does do, it doesn't correct all of the bad they do or have done. The fact that you take class after class to "know your religion " and yet they never tell you the truth. And you listen to their apologists and realize how poor their arguments are. . I have nothing nice to say about their founding "prophet" that freaking conman.
Best wishes to you and your family. Good luck with your channel. There are many ex mormon channels on here.
I was baptized at 8 because my mother was baptized. Most people don't choose their own religion and I was no exception. I spent most of life as a TBM, I went on mission at 19, I was married in my Bishop's back yard at 34 then sealed in the temple with my wife an son at 35. I was happy in the church till age 50 and started a faith premoting journey to learn about the history and real life of Joseph Smith. After about 4 months of study and avoiding anything that would be considered anti Mormon, it became painfully obvious that my whole world view was based on a 19th century conman. Yes I was devastated and now I am an agnostic.
@@SteveSmith-os5bsI had a great-grandfather who was one of J.S’s bodyguards. I left when I was in my twenties I am more agnostic too.
As someone who was never mormon, I read the title and thought "in other news, water is wet."
Thi is a great channel and your videos have great production value!
Haha well thank you! My husband does all the filming and stuff, if you wanna check out his channel it’s th-cam.com/channels/VzmZWixXD7Pl04HUlU4R3A.html
I left too, but I was not & am not a racist.
The church doctrine is racist in certain areas, but all the members certain are not even though the doctrine is racist. The whole Lamanite verbiage is over the top....that when they repented their skin turned light!!....🤣🤣🤣....like being white = righteous LOL!!!
@@DesertSky928 right, when the whole time Jesus wasn’t white.. and I definitely wasn’t saying anyone was racist I just feel like if people are going to choose to believe in something, the thing they are choosing to believe shouldn’t be racist
Hey, thank you for sharing your experience. And, I'm really inspired in the way that you film, I've been studying documentaries of people's personal experiences and your series is SUPER good so far. (I'm not sure if that means much, coming from someone that's never made a real film before)
I've really needed to see something like this because I'm currently going through my own faith crisis, and I'm still a minor, and I live in Utah. So, I'm stuck.
It is so tough in the middle of it all. Thank you so much.
Hey thank you so much! My husband is actually who does the filming his channel is
th-cam.com/channels/VzmZWixXD7Pl04HUlU4R3A.html
I’m really happy to be here for all of you that are going through something like this. I went through it for years and I will be a voice in the dark for you.
"there must be opposition in ALL things" ...free moral Agency prevails. 🕊️
I was half asleep when I read the title and thought it was going to be about racism within the Book of Mormon musical- but I got something far more profound and interesting. I absolutely loved the camera work, the lighting, and the words throughout this video. In just a short 5 minutes I honestly felt like I had watched an entire film, I cant wait to see more from you, thank you for telling your story :)
These videos are so beautiful, powerful, and engaging. I'm so happy to have found this so early on in the story and can't wait to learn more about your experience.
Hey thank you! I’m glad your here and there is a lot more to come
I literally felt at peace watching this I am an ex mormon as well.
A beautiful public warning
announcement
thank you
✨🙏✨
You’re welcome! :) more to come
I’m Utah born male 54 - I had my awakening, This is no God. Be kind to people help when you can. I’m Free.
Keep speaking the truth! I was a convert from age ten and left at 16. Rejected by family. I’m in my 50’s and there’s still tension.
The church is a facade and a cult.
Oh wow! Well I’m glad you stuck to your convictions and stayed true to yourself. I am sorry you and your family still have tension, although I understand the tension very well unfortunately
@@WhenIWasMormon CONGRATULATIONS ON LIVING YOUR OWN LIFE AND THINKING FOR YOURSELF!
I think the Mormon Church has twisted the Bible. When my FIL passed away, my MIL was grateful because he had fully converted and was temple worthy right before he died. I asked what was important about that and she said that it was important because they were sealed and could now be married for "time and all eternity." I found this disturbing because the Bible describes heaven and specifically says in the book of Revelation that in heaven there will be no marriage or giving in marriage. There is so much about this religion that specifically goes against what the Bible says, I don't even know where to begin. The Bible also says that "the word of God shouldn't be changed or added to, not by a sentence or a word or a punctuation mark. This is something Joseph Smith blatantly ignored. I have been married to my husband for 30 years, and I have had to defend my beliefs in God and religion every day since I was married against my Mormon in-laws.
Perfectly said.
Not to be a killjoy but, every Christian religion under the sun has twisted the Bible for its own political purposes.
Great vid and excellent points. Impossible to get too much of the truth out there. Keep up the fantastic work!!
It was a different decision for me to leave. A part of me still misses it, yet I'm free
a part of me will always miss it and i have to remind myself that i’m better off this way. it’s hard getting out of something you knew to be true your whole life, only to have to completely reset everything you ever thought and believed. sometimes i miss the feeling of belonging to something, or sometimes i miss being so sure in my beliefs. but i’m much better off now. it’s obviously a lot to work through but i’m better off knowing what i know now. you’re right, we’re free.
Thank you for sharing your story! 🙏🏽 I’m glad you made it out. I’m waiting to see you on Mormon Stories!?!? 🤗
Thaaaat would be awesome lol
@@WhenIWasMormon please reach out to John Dehlin. Your story is important and needs to be heard!! 📢📢 💖💖
I thought you were referring to the Musical initially.
Not being encouraged to ask questions is a ref flag! I'm a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ but I ask Hom and others questions and will continue.
Soooooo good
Obviously everyone's church experience is different. However, there are good things in the church and good people. No one is taught to "shun" for lack of a better word. We are taught to love and appreciate our differences with other religions and people. We are taught to be kind and to love everyone regardless of race, privilege or any other factor. Because if Jesus were standing right next to you he would not li e you any less because of a tattoo. I promise you are loved and if you have any questions please reach out to people and ask questions, go to a youth activity, attend sacrament meeting, but even if this is not what you believe, most everyone can agree we all should be kind and uplifting rather than pushing down those who have wronged us or don't believe the same as us. We are all children of God who loves us 💞
What about the little Native American or African American boys and girls that grow up thinking they are cursed by god because of their skin color?
Reagan, let's be real though. LDS have pretty stiff rules about behavior, appearance and life in general. If I consistently came to Sacrament meeting showing my tatoos, in jeans and a t-shirt, I wouldn't be accepted. If I don't obey the WOW, I wouldn't be accepted by my "church family". If they found out I couldn't take Sacrament, your kids couldn't play with my kids.
Shunning isn't a mormon word. That's why you don't recognize it, but the disassociation of the non-faithful by the faithful is exactly that. The temple recommend is a prime example. If you are worthy, you get to go. If not, you're shunned, made to miss, endowments, marriages, baptisms of family. If you're an adult and temple worthy, you already know this. If not, don't challenge the narrative and you'll do ok. Plenty of LDS are fine with that.
@@AngiesCousin it's not a matter of shunning or excluding in fact its the exact opposite, it's a matter of including everyone no matter what. Heavenly father sets rules to keep us safe but we also were given the gift of free agency so we can all choose how to take those "rules" and how we apply them to our lives. But there are still consequences eternally for breaking these so called rules.
@@WhenIWasMormon It’s understandable that many would read the scriptures and associate the word ‘black’ in all of its forms, relating to man, in the same way they believe it to be fact in our society. The Saints, and those of other faiths as well, instinctually assume that this word is in reference to race, nationality, or color of skin. . . . The LDS version of the King James Bible and the Book of Mormon help us to understand that the word black is actually a Hebrew idiom, meaning gloomy, dejected, or spiritual darkness, and has nothing to do with skin tone. We see in Jeremiah 8:21, the LDS version of the King James Bible footnotes the word ‘black’ where it is defined as a Hebrew idiom, dealing with the mental, emotional, or spiritual state of the individual. In the context of its common meaning in Hebrew as indicating a spiritual not a physical state. I am Colombian with native Latin American blood. I am dark and I love my dark skin color and never felt any less in The LDS faith. Never thought it was a curse or ashamed of my skin color. Now if people want to think that for me, I ignore it, as I know I'm aChild of God and He loves us all the same.
@@jenneferc8768 .. what you don’t seems to understand is that it WAS TAUGHT FOR DECADES THAT IT WAS IN FACT SKIN COLOR!! It’s only recently that the church has tried to change the narrative and claim it’s about a black soul. YOU ARE WRONG!! Look into the churches truth claims, look into church history. COME TO UTAH, FUND OUT FOR YOURSELF!
Why dont you join a affirming christian church that supports LGBT ? Why not give it a try? God exist and he still loves you. Leaving Mormon Church was a good thing but Dont give up on the real God. There are many Churches that are affirming to LGBT that will provide you love and support and strength.
Oh I still believe in God just not the Mormon god
There is no God.
uhm.
Unfortunately, this will get dismissed by most people when they read the headline. I know, for me, I dismiss anything nowadays when something is called racist. It’s a term that has been ruined by the new generation that literally think EVERYTHING is racist. The Book of Mormon, does in fact have racist verses.
I def think you’re stretching with the term lamanite being racist. And by stretching I mean you’re doing exactly what I said early where EVERYTHING is racist.
I’m stretching the part that says “they were cursed with a skin of blackness” as being racist? Do you hear yourself?
@@WhenIWasMormon slow down and think. I said the term lamanite isn’t racist. I clearly said there were versus in the BOM that are racist. Saying “lamanite” is NOT racist.
@@Youknowitsmeman saying laminate referring to people that were “cursed with a skin of blackness” is indeed racist when they shouldn’t be referred to as anything else other than just people. Also telling someone to slow down and think? That’s that self righteous godhood priesthood authority at work I think. I slow down or bow for no one.
@@WhenIWasMormon unfortunate for you I’m not a Mormon so…… No priesthood authority here. You’re so brave. You slow down for no one. Oohhhh. Gives me chills. Lamanites refers to the family they came from. I agree that we should all just be called people. Hopefully you don’t refer to any black people as African Americans. Cause that it denigrating them to a group of people from whence they came. Same thing as family. 🤯
@@Youknowitsmeman that just it it isn’t degrading to say African American because Africa ACTUALLY EXISTS
Hey,, can we all get BYU defended or stoped from being a college? It shouldn't be a college anymore.