I ordered some "Dwarf Lilly" seeds from Wish a while back. I figured it was a long shot. I only got a few to germinate and only one plant to make it as an adult plant. The only surviving plant is growing out of a mason jar and it looks a lot like a Brassica (Cabbage/broccoli family). Definitely not a lilly!
Dwarf baby tears seeds grew like crazy and took over the front third of my tank. It's the easiest thing I ever grew, it took 7 days to totally fill in and submerged in 10. I actually wish it grew less since it is such a chore now. Got at Amazon, much easier than using cultures and waiting to fill in a 55 gallon tank, not to mention the cost savings
I bought the 'small leaf' carpeting seeds after witnessing what they'd eventually grew to become, as seen in my lfs display tank: Hygrophila sp. 'Tiger' Hahaha! Now, I have bajillions of this rare plant. Selling a bunch of 3 stems at $8 - I've sold thousands already. And how much did a packet of seeds cost me? Just $2.50! So, does it work? In my case, hell yes! 😂👍
Great video on a topic much needed. I've personally tried my hands on seeds 3-4 times. Twice i got seeds from Ama,zon and they were as you mentioned a bad purchase. They were wrong plants and some were even dead seeds. So in a nutshell, online seeds bad choice! I did buy seeds from a local aquarium shop a couple of time and they were fantastic (might just be a chance that both the times the seeds gave good results). However as you rightly called out, if you buy seeds for a carpet, the best option is DSM. Also a lot of the variety doesn't hold in soil for long. So essentially, with seeds, it can a good quick uniform carpet but shortlived (max2 months). My experience has been for a longterm carpet, it is better to use IV plants (personally I trust Tropica 1-2-grow). Looking forward to your seed experiment video :)
@@mangel4382 it's Dry Start Method. That's a method to grow plants without flooding the tank. This channel @the Water Box has videos on DSM which you can refer to to understand it better
Great topic!!! Because we all know we've seen the seeds! And who doesn't want to grow that fabulous carpet🤔Or at least I do 🤣 I too have wondered if do they really work, shelf life, and all that stuff! So I really appreciate the video! Plus you are an amazing storyteller and I really enjoy watching your channel! I hope you have a very blessed day!!! Thank you for sharing 👍🌱🐟🌿
Great stuff as always man I got seeds from amazon claiming to baby dwarf tears and after one of your vids I came back home to check and it was not baby tears but it does look like dwarf sagittaria though I pluck everything out I'm no expert so I told my son to keep an eye on the tank to see if any more will grow I'm heading out to sea tomorrow wont be home.
I ordered dwarf hair grass. It worked great then started to die and rot after 2 weeks of being submersed. I also tried to grow the seeds as terrestrial plants. Same story tho.
his advice: he doesn't know either. My opinion: don't leave good reviews or say something works if you have only had it for 1 month. We're talking, does this plant live as the plant you wanted, in a full of water aquarium for over a year? So far there have been ZERO cases I have ever seen of seeds living that long. Because rarely do aquatic species reproduce through seed, they have other ways of propagating. One plant that does like seeds is hygrophila family. Their baby sprouts also look like glosso for about 1 month, just enough time for a curious buyer to leave a good review and a promising picture. but 8 months later their iwagumi is a jungle of hygrophila.
and hygrophila polysperma is a noxious weed invasive specie as well. shame on any 'hobbyists' that lack of critical informations n support those shady business practice.
I've been wanting to try these "aquatic seeds" for a while... Do I bought some off amazon. I just now planted them.. I'm trying to dry method... We will see!
I just started with some baby tears, and dwarf hair grass, I'm doing the dry start method. It's only been 2 days but if there is anything other than failure I'll update this
Im starting a new 20 long and got some from amazon. Ill try making a video about it. Im waiting for my light to arrive today. And Im boiling my Malaysian drifwood now. Im building my stand this weekend. Stay tuned.
I guess you helped me made up my mind I was thinking of trying some seeds, then you posted this !!! dang it, I order them and got them, I'll let you know how they went as soon they sprout if they do.. if they don't still let u know. cheers.
@@TheWaterBox Before more time passes, the seeds that I got from amazon.ca did sprout in 36 hours, at 48 hrs I was able to see tips of the plant showing to the surface, but still can't tell you its actual dwarf hair grass, it seems bit thicker than the ones I already have from Tropica 1,2 grow cups, so still waiting for them to grow more to give final thoughts. cheers
@@TheWaterBox Sad to said its definatly not the seed that I was expecting since it has grown massive man too much to even thing its any kind of eleocharis :/ cheers look up on youtube 水草圈的最大騙局，水草種子的前世今生，莫入坑|No CO2. Very good water grass seed is a scam. this guys shows the real and fake stuff mine are like the fake ones he got
It does work that way 😅 they just sit in a cloudy mess like a spider web for a few days. Get roots an drop then you just wave them into place. Or maybe im just dumb lucky. Sprout in 3 days 7 to full carpet. Just trim them weekly to stay small.
I have personally used gloso and hair grass seeds I bought them off eBay both worked very well I used the dry start method and high light 24/7 while growing them If you’re gonna put some corys in your tank make sure you let the roots establish I’ve grown glosó in a dirt tank and just sand also in 24hrs I saw them growing with the dirt tank Both will also grow above water aka on land I’ve used them both in this manor
This is crazy. I'm re-doing some of my tanks and had considered doing seeds. I was going to start researching tonight but your vid just popped up in my suggestions. Youre awesome duud. Keep answering the questions that need answered..
I ordered 6 types of seeds online. MC, HC, DHG, big leaf, clover, tall hair grass. I did dry start method for 2 weeks. They melted weeks after I flooded the tank. Better to have legit carpeting plants already matured with established root system. I need my cow back.
I tried some in my 29 gallon and i just dumped them in and they sprouted and grew and were fine for like two weeks then all melted away. i had never heard of them at the time and it seems like it would be worth the 2 bucks. was a waste of 2 bucks and i want my cow back
@@TheWaterBox wise one, i recently dirted my 135 and its really hot here in california (tanks around 86 F) plus the tap is hard water. Ive been trying to reduce the pH and temp and also added co2. My tank is 2 feet tall and 6 feet long. shoud a 48-60 inch finnex 24/7 planted (centered) and two smaller 24 inch led lights(NIcrew on each side) be sufficient for my plants to thrive? I have ferts if needed too. Please lmk and thanks so much for the great and honest content!
The Water Box I’m trying to grow some pogo octopus, moneywort, rotala rotundifolia, some bacopa, crypt wendtti, Amazon sword, Anacharis, Vals, dwarf sag. And some lily bulbs.
I’m a trained Plant and Soil scientist and adore topics like this. For context: A Vegetable seed for the home garden doesn’t magically have high germination rates right out of the seed packet. Farmers and gardeners with expertise in that species have selectively breed that variety for generations to reach the dependability and uniformity of whatever selected crop you are planting. These “aquatic” seeds have none of that selective breeding. Natures answer is to spread wild germination over successive season to ensure a “seed bank” is present; should disaster kill off one year’s population there are a reminder of seeds to attempt germination next year, and the year after. Nature does not put all its egg in one basket… which is a problem if you want everything to sprout in your tank, at the same time. Planting by seed will work if: 1. It is the right species, which also propagates sexually in the wild (you must research each species, and not every species reproduces most effectively by seed even in nature). 2. You must provide the environment which these seeds would correctly germinate in the wild; see point #1. 3. Your point of “shelf life” is species dependent and is highly influenced on how that seed is stored. To understand storage, see point #2. A seed that germinates due to rehydration needs to be kept relatively dry to ensure it remains dormant. Likewise, a seed that germinates via light, must be stored in relative darkness. See point #1 about ensuring you have the right species. 4. Additionally, those seeds are not “improved” meaning they have not been bred through selection for uniform germination, so you will likely have low germination rates. Some species may also require scarification (abrasion to weaken protective seed coats) or stratification (chill hours) if it is a temperate plant to increase germination rates. Because of how infrequent and relatively new planting aquatic plants by seed is, as a practice. To be successful, you need to have done your homework or have gotten lucky. This is a great topic and you covered it well. I hope to keep seeing your coverage
I have bought 2 kinds of seeds, one "large leaf" and one "small leaf." The large leaf one ended up melting away and some online sources have stated that the large leaf carpet seeds are actually a swamp plant and therefore semi terrestrial. The small leaf seeds are actually Hygrophilia Polysperma, a highly invasive aquatic stem plant also known as Indian waterweed. It requires little light and little nutrition, but is actually illegal to sell across borders. I'm surprised its not in more lo-tech setups! It makes a great carpet but as your guest said, it grows like crazy and requires trimming every week. But it won't send out runners like a real carpet plant will. From my understanding, most of these seeds are actually sold in traditional medicine shops as medication, but are resold as aquatic seeds because of their similar appearance to real aquatic plants.
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A friend of mine gave me about 50 to 100 seeds that he got from a "popular place" I put the seeds in a small tank and they immediately got covered in a clear gooey substance (I'm guessing this is supposed to happen). It took some time but eventually they started to grow. I have no idea what they are they look more like weeds than plants. My friend had better luck with his BUT they seem to be all different types of "water weeds". It's was kind of like planting a hand full of bird seed, you have no idea what's going to pop up. I love your editing Chung, always a fun, smooth watch!!
The reason they got covered in clear goo is because they were probably chia seeds; a commonly sold 'aquactic' seed. Chia seeds germinate in water very well and look like glosso for a long enough time that the buyer might leave a good review. but alas they turn into 3 ft tall weeds with flowers eventually.
2.5 gallon. Used amazon seeds, started 12 days ago, germination success!!! Flooded tank three days ago, looked so amazing. 70% of the plants have been uprooted from the sand and have floated the the top of the water... now I have to restart hoping to let them germinate for longer so they have bigger more developed root systems, but alas discovery requires experimentation.
Does any plant start submerged, i thought rivers edge where there is moist soil. Just trying to start by planting in soil in plastic clear egg box and put on window sill.
i got mine from ebay last year and they worked great .. i am now going to try the same seeds i had left over from last year to see if it still works as good starting it today
Well, I bought my seeds from China on eBay, they grow fast and tall, remember that aquarium plants need food!!. To keep planted aquariums healthy and nice looking, some basic plant care measures should be performed regularly. Feeding aquatic plants is the same thing as *fertilizing their environment* with nutrients. Nutrients should be present in both the *substrate* and the *water* to assure the plants are getting the proper amounts.🌿
Jack and the Beanstalk analogy? Lol. I cant remember what kind of seeds I used, but it was supposed to be a carpet type of plant. I think it was called carpet plant. The problem was that these plants grew tall. I think I got the wrong seeds or my lighting was too low
I got mine in Amazon and this is what I think: According to the seller they were Wpmlady aquarium plants seeds (small leaf grass) The first impression is this mucus substance that holds the "seeds" together I guess is the reaction you get form adding the water to it. It is not, let me capitalize that is NOT small leaf grass, it grows fast, however it is aquatic, got it in the aquarium for more than two months now, I do use Co2 and they get some reddish leafs on the top ones, I wish I could add a photo. Not happy with it, but it does serve as an extra aquarium plant, great for hiding.
@@TheWaterBox I will be more than happy to send you a picture... it is not what is advertize, if you want I can posted on your FB page and fell free to use it.
I have two tanks going. I started one two months ago: nano tank 1 gallon.. Seachem Flourite Black Clay Gravel Wpmlady Aquarium Grass Plants Seeds (Small Leaf Grass) Freshwater Aquarium Live Plants Dwarf Baby tears Seeds Foreground or Carpeting in Planted Fish Tank. BOTH plants look exactly the same! (amazon purchase) Marimo Moss Balls This tank is clean, water is crystal clear using hang on filter with carbon. the carpet took off nice started adding water to cover after two weeks about 1cm every other day until 2 inches above plant, then I filled the tank completely. looks awesome. plants are not as green now as they were in the first two weeks, maybe they had access to more co2 out of the water. I'm trying to see how they do w/o co2 Tank #2 30 gallons 3 weeks ago: organic soil 1inch, Seachem Onyx Sand 1inch, Seachem Flourite Black Clay Gravel 1-2inches same seeds as nano tank BOTH plants look exactly the same! I also planted seeds in some 10inch tall (dead) coral rocks. seeds are growing nicely started with water level up to the lowest substrate.. This one I used a fog/mister using wifi timer on the hour to keep everything moist. This was actually raising the water level nice and slow so I just let it. in about 2 weeks all seeds except those on the rocks were covered and growing nicely. I now have about 10inches of water in the tank and the water has a slight green tint! all the plants are doing well so far. I'm thinking of adding UV sterilizer to clear up the apparent algae bloom... It's only been 1 week of green water I did add a sponge filter and a skimmer 3 days ago, still green though. so the carpet looks amazing but, the jury is still out on whether or not the 30 gallon tank is going to make it. Is the green tint due to plants "melting" or could this really be an algae bloom?
@@TheWaterBox In your "Soil Substrate Aquarium Setup Guide AKA Dirt a Tank" video you add sand on top of your soil. But you also plant fully rooted plants and punch them through the sand and into to soil. I have... soil, sand then gravel. I planted seeds. I don't think my "carpet" roots will ever get through the sand and into the soil?? Maybe I'll add some fully grown plants as well??? Thanks :-)
It will, it's seeds, As long as it grow, the plant roots will find a way. I put the plants I had in the video deeper because they are full grown plants.
im trying it right now im setting up a fishtank to put on my livestreams for twitch im on like day 7 of my dry start. the only clew ihave to what the seeds are is at the bottom it says "freshwater aquarium dwarf ...h tank betta will love it. NEW" the picture is too small to make out what the plant is but they a re sprouting and look like a grass so im guessing they are dwarf hairgrass. idk when to add enough water to submerge them
I just bought some from amazon, tried it in a small bowl just to see the results and within 6 days it was a carpet. i flooded it and 1 week later still growing very green and thick. suppose to be glosso and looks like it. it made my water a little gunky at first but after a few water changes it seems to be working fine
@@dianemiles2720 if i revisit this video id definitely give an update. but this is how far ive gotten trying out seeds. Praying they work long term because i would love to do a bigger tank
Currently 10 days into the sprouting phase... once my co2 tank and equipment gets in I am flooding the tank. So far its a success and the carpet looks good.
Got 2 Pack Aquarium Small Leaf Grass, Aquarium Water Grass for Fish Tank Decoration Creates Lush Green Carpet Plant on the Big River Store. They sprouted after 3-4 days with DSM, will flood two weeks after planting.
I'm trying myself to build up my channel I post about two videos a week it's not easy it's a lot of work but I hit a plateau and I'm not really growing anymore, I'm starting to think about just forgetting about this TH-cam thing.
The birds and the bees...aquarium plants!!! Seeds....Do fish eat seeds and propogate a plant? No fxxn idea...sounds stupid...apparently the chinese know about these things...no they dont...great for dry start...try submersing them...its shit...they die...its a bollocks...they will propogate...they are not glosso seeds...gauranteed....
@@TheWaterBox Wasn't insight as you know..but ta...here's a topic...so aquatic seeds from China are crap..how about.....co2 regulators..diffusers...filter media...tubing...led's...etc..ordering large bonsai and getting a matchbox parcel...it goes on...
@@TheWaterBox I think it is worth taking the risk because seeds are a fraction of the price of plants. If I managed to grow one single Buce out of the whole bag, it would have been worth it as any Buce plant is at least 10 bucks each.
@@epaquatics5689 - They died after 3 weeks. The grass itself is long, like sprouts, so they're not actually grass. I wouldn't waste time doing it, especially since I waited for 2 weeks before I filled in the water. Just not worth it!
I already tried dry starting seeds. it works. it keeps on growing even on a very low tech tank. the only problem is that they don't root deeply. if you have fish especially bottom feeders, they can easily pull them out on the substrate, every day you'll see them floating. and they adjust or convert a lot depending on the environment. my small leaf now turns into fern-like long leaves.
@@TheWaterBox I'm saying I wish you could comment on reviews to find out more info as most reviews for any item goes along the lines, "it was good" or "it was crap" but why? What did you do to make it work for or not work. Like you said, if they're drowning seeds it probably will not work. But how do you know their process?
About time someone tackled this subject in a balanced and intelligent way like you did there.
Thanks!
I did try it and so far works fine , i had to trim it few times since 3 monthas
Nice!
I ordered some "Dwarf Lilly" seeds from Wish a while back. I figured it was a long shot. I only got a few to germinate and only one plant to make it as an adult plant. The only surviving plant is growing out of a mason jar and it looks a lot like a Brassica (Cabbage/broccoli family). Definitely not a lilly!
I didn't even know Dwarf Lily can seed.
Ye can't get dwarf lily seeds...no one can...it's a root from a mother plant...I fell for the same crap...
Thanks for clarifying
I’ve done colossal stigma seeds and they grew amazingly. Just off amazon for around 8 bucks. Dry start method and submerged start both worked for me.
Thanks for sharing
How did you do it in full plant the seeds just got slimy and stuck together when I tried adding into my tank
It definitely works!! I've done it with ebay and Amazon seeds
Miss your video content where you at dawg!?
Soon
Dwarf baby tears seeds grew like crazy and took over the front third of my tank. It's the easiest thing I ever grew, it took 7 days to totally fill in and submerged in 10. I actually wish it grew less since it is such a chore now. Got at Amazon, much easier than using cultures and waiting to fill in a 55 gallon tank, not to mention the cost savings
Good to hear! Is it actually Dwarf Baby Tears?
Hi Frank, do you have the link for the seeds? How is it doing after 5 months? Thanks.
how long does aquatic seeds live?
depends on the seeds. I'm assuming you're talking about before they get planted?
I bought the 'small leaf' carpeting seeds after witnessing what they'd eventually grew to become, as seen in my lfs display tank:
Hygrophila sp. 'Tiger'
Hahaha! Now, I have bajillions of this rare plant. Selling a bunch of 3 stems at $8 - I've sold thousands already. And how much did a packet of seeds cost me? Just $2.50! So, does it work? In my case, hell yes! 😂👍
Right on!
can you share the link where you e bought from?
@@ayubshaik2907 I bought them at my local fish store.
Great video on a topic much needed. I've personally tried my hands on seeds 3-4 times. Twice i got seeds from Ama,zon and they were as you mentioned a bad purchase. They were wrong plants and some were even dead seeds. So in a nutshell, online seeds bad choice!
I did buy seeds from a local aquarium shop a couple of time and they were fantastic (might just be a chance that both the times the seeds gave good results). However as you rightly called out, if you buy seeds for a carpet, the best option is DSM. Also a lot of the variety doesn't hold in soil for long. So essentially, with seeds, it can a good quick uniform carpet but shortlived (max2 months). My experience has been for a longterm carpet, it is better to use IV plants (personally I trust Tropica 1-2-grow).
Looking forward to your seed experiment video :)
Thanks for sharing! It's good insight!
What are DSM? Sorry I am new at the hobby
@@mangel4382 it's Dry Start Method. That's a method to grow plants without flooding the tank. This channel @the Water Box has videos on DSM which you can refer to to understand it better
Great topic!!! Because we all know we've seen the seeds! And who doesn't want to grow that fabulous carpet🤔Or at least I do 🤣
I too have wondered if do they really work, shelf life, and all that stuff! So I really appreciate the video! Plus you are an amazing storyteller and I really enjoy watching your channel! I hope you have a very blessed day!!! Thank you for sharing 👍🌱🐟🌿
Thanks Mary!
How long do they last???? I heard that not that long. They sprout, grow, and die no matter what.
Great stuff as always man I got seeds from amazon claiming to baby dwarf tears and after one of your vids I came back home to check and it was not baby tears but it does look like dwarf sagittaria though I pluck everything out I'm no expert so I told my son to keep an eye on the tank to see if any more will grow I'm heading out to sea tomorrow wont be home.
Interesting! Hopefully it's all gone!
I can't even buy live java moss. So I ordered seeds but I sending them back
I ordered dwarf hair grass. It worked great then started to die and rot after 2 weeks of being submersed. I also tried to grow the seeds as terrestrial plants. Same story tho.
Thanks for sharing
his advice: he doesn't know either. My opinion: don't leave good reviews or say something works if you have only had it for 1 month. We're talking, does this plant live as the plant you wanted, in a full of water aquarium for over a year? So far there have been ZERO cases I have ever seen of seeds living that long. Because rarely do aquatic species reproduce through seed, they have other ways of propagating. One plant that does like seeds is hygrophila family. Their baby sprouts also look like glosso for about 1 month, just enough time for a curious buyer to leave a good review and a promising picture. but 8 months later their iwagumi is a jungle of hygrophila.
Great insight! Thanks!
and hygrophila polysperma is a noxious weed invasive specie as well. shame on any 'hobbyists' that lack of critical informations n support those shady business practice.
I've been wanting to try these "aquatic seeds" for a while... Do I bought some off amazon. I just now planted them.. I'm trying to dry method... We will see!
Good luck.
@@TheWaterBox they've sprouted! It took a week and they sprouted... Now I must add water. And see how that goes.
Hope it goes well. it's a 50/50 there that it'll last more than 6 months so hopefully you got good seeds
I just started with some baby tears, and dwarf hair grass, I'm doing the dry start method. It's only been 2 days but if there is anything other than failure I'll update this
Good luck!
I've got the first few buds of both the mini hair grass and baby tears
updates?
@@RalphCunanan so far so good I plan on waiting for another week or so before flooding the tank
@@owljoe5890 wow. Cool! Congrats!
growing seeds video uploaded ?
No, never gotten around to doing that video
Im starting a new 20 long and got some from amazon. Ill try making a video about it.
Im waiting for my light to arrive today. And Im boiling my Malaysian drifwood now. Im building my stand this weekend.
Stay tuned.
Ok
I guess you helped me made up my mind I was thinking of trying some seeds, then you posted this !!! dang it, I order them and got them, I'll let you know how they went as soon they sprout if they do.. if they don't still let u know.
cheers.
Cheers!
@@TheWaterBox Before more time passes, the seeds that I got from amazon.ca did sprout in 36 hours, at 48 hrs I was able to see tips of the plant showing to the surface, but still can't tell you its actual dwarf hair grass, it seems bit thicker than the ones I already have from Tropica 1,2 grow cups, so still waiting for them to grow more to give final thoughts.
cheers
Right on!
@@TheWaterBox Sad to said its definatly not the seed that I was expecting since it has grown massive man too much to even thing its any kind of eleocharis :/
cheers
look up on youtube 水草圈的最大騙局，水草種子的前世今生，莫入坑|No CO2. Very good water grass seed is a scam.
this guys shows the real and fake stuff mine are like the fake ones he got
Awesome way to open up a video!
Thank you!
@@TheWaterBox I always thought you were in Singapore as well, long time viewer :)
Gnope, in Los Angeles.
It does work that way 😅 they just sit in a cloudy mess like a spider web for a few days. Get roots an drop then you just wave them into place. Or maybe im just dumb lucky. Sprout in 3 days 7 to full carpet. Just trim them weekly to stay small.
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I have personally used gloso and hair grass seeds
I bought them off eBay both worked very well
I used the dry start method and high light 24/7 while growing them
If you’re gonna put some corys in your tank make sure you let the roots establish I’ve grown glosó in a dirt tank and just sand also in 24hrs I saw them growing with the dirt tank
Both will also grow above water aka on land
I’ve used them both in this manor
Good to know! Thanks fro sharing.
Okay, here's a hack. What if i buy them and scape them to be emersed scape. It should works well right. Like terrarium carpet or similar
Huh? I'm not sure what you mean.
@@TheWaterBox meaning if i bought those seed but I'm not using it for aquarium . So anything should be fine right
Yeh, sure.
This is crazy. I'm re-doing some of my tanks and had considered doing seeds. I was going to start researching tonight but your vid just popped up in my suggestions. Youre awesome duud. Keep answering the questions that need answered..
Glad I could help! You keep watching, I'll keep making them!
Loving the thumbnail 😂😂
Thanks!
updates plsGod Bless
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I ordered 6 types of seeds online. MC, HC, DHG, big leaf, clover, tall hair grass. I did dry start method for 2 weeks. They melted weeks after I flooded the tank. Better to have legit carpeting plants already matured with established root system. I need my cow back.
Definitely need our cows back!
Intro 😂👌🔥
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The seeds do grow but they always die me. I do want try again
Is it after flooding that they die?
@@TheWaterBox to me once the plant grown than I add water the plant slowly melted away. But I only did seeds once
Ah yeh, that's why I said they might not be an aquatic plant.
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This is not glosssostigma he has, just young higrophila polisperma.
It dous not work I bought from aliexpress and wish and it was never what they said it was
Thanks for sharing!
I’m curious if this worked for you?
I haven't done the set up yet.
Thanks for the info! Where is your mustache man??
I forgot it! I'll wear it next time. ;)
Lmaooooooooo where is the cow!!!?
That's what I'm asking!
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@@TheWaterBox made my day 😂😂
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I tried some in my 29 gallon and i just dumped them in and they sprouted and grew and were fine for like two weeks then all melted away. i had never heard of them at the time and it seems like it would be worth the 2 bucks. was a waste of 2 bucks and i want my cow back
Moo man! Moo!
lolololol....wheres my f-ing cow....nice! and yeah where is she?
Right??
seeds are a scam
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@@TheWaterBox wise one, i recently dirted my 135 and its really hot here in california (tanks around 86 F) plus the tap is hard water. Ive been trying to reduce the pH and temp and also added co2. My tank is 2 feet tall and 6 feet long. shoud a 48-60 inch finnex 24/7 planted (centered) and two smaller 24 inch led lights(NIcrew on each side) be sufficient for my plants to thrive? I have ferts if needed too. Please lmk and thanks so much for the great and honest content!
What are you trying to grow? 24" depth, you're not going to get much light with the nicrews hitting the floor
The Water Box I’m trying to grow some pogo octopus, moneywort, rotala rotundifolia, some bacopa, crypt wendtti, Amazon sword, Anacharis, Vals, dwarf sag. And some lily bulbs.
You may need more light but I guess just start and see what happens. You can always add most light later.
I’m a trained Plant and Soil scientist and adore topics like this.
For context: A Vegetable seed for the home garden doesn’t magically have high germination rates right out of the seed packet. Farmers and gardeners with expertise in that species have selectively breed that variety for generations to reach the dependability and uniformity of whatever selected crop you are planting. These “aquatic” seeds have none of that selective breeding.
Natures answer is to spread wild germination over successive season to ensure a “seed bank” is present; should disaster kill off one year’s population there are a reminder of seeds to attempt germination next year, and the year after. Nature does not put all its egg in one basket… which is a problem if you want everything to sprout in your tank, at the same time.
Planting by seed will work if:
1. It is the right species, which also propagates sexually in the wild (you must research each species, and not every species reproduces most effectively by seed even in nature).
2. You must provide the environment which these seeds would correctly germinate in the wild; see point #1.
3. Your point of “shelf life” is species dependent and is highly influenced on how that seed is stored. To understand storage, see point #2. A seed that germinates due to rehydration needs to be kept relatively dry to ensure it remains dormant. Likewise, a seed that germinates via light, must be stored in relative darkness. See point #1 about ensuring you have the right species.
4. Additionally, those seeds are not “improved” meaning they have not been bred through selection for uniform germination, so you will likely have low germination rates. Some species may also require scarification (abrasion to weaken protective seed coats) or stratification (chill hours) if it is a temperate plant to increase germination rates.
Because of how infrequent and relatively new planting aquatic plants by seed is, as a practice. To be successful, you need to have done your homework or have gotten lucky.
This is a great topic and you covered it well. I hope to keep seeing your coverage
WOW! Definitely thanks for those insights!
I have bought 2 kinds of seeds, one "large leaf" and one "small leaf." The large leaf one ended up melting away and some online sources have stated that the large leaf carpet seeds are actually a swamp plant and therefore semi terrestrial. The small leaf seeds are actually Hygrophilia Polysperma, a highly invasive aquatic stem plant also known as Indian waterweed. It requires little light and little nutrition, but is actually illegal to sell across borders. I'm surprised its not in more lo-tech setups! It makes a great carpet but as your guest said, it grows like crazy and requires trimming every week. But it won't send out runners like a real carpet plant will.
From my understanding, most of these seeds are actually sold in traditional medicine shops as medication, but are resold as aquatic seeds because of their similar appearance to real aquatic plants.
Just watch out for the illegal stuff and make sure not to dispose of them unless you're really sure it's dead.
can u share the links you've bought from?
please make content again !!!!
I will!
Hilarious intro. Great idea for content as well!
Glad you liked it!
Just stumbled on your channel and proceeded to binge watch your whole CO2 & beginner planted series. Love your stuff man.
Awesome, thank you!
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And since you clicked "view reply" I'll tell you a something....
The energizer bunny was arrested on a charge of battery.
A friend of mine gave me about 50 to 100 seeds that he got from a "popular place" I put the seeds in a small tank and they immediately got covered in a clear gooey substance (I'm guessing this is supposed to happen). It took some time but eventually they started to grow. I have no idea what they are they look more like weeds than plants. My friend had better luck with his BUT they seem to be all different types of "water weeds". It's was kind of like planting a hand full of bird seed, you have no idea what's going to pop up. I love your editing Chung, always a fun, smooth watch!!
Thanks buddy!
The reason they got covered in clear goo is because they were probably chia seeds; a commonly sold 'aquactic' seed. Chia seeds germinate in water very well and look like glosso for a long enough time that the buyer might leave a good review. but alas they turn into 3 ft tall weeds with flowers eventually.
@@dianemiles2720 Thanks
Thanks for the clarification Diane
The thumbnail 😂😂🤣
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Haha seed bai, sounds like a dodgy online store.
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I’m not even kidding this is the first vid of yours I’ve seen and just 1:08 mins into watching the vid I subscribed 😂
Haha thanks man!
2.5 gallon. Used amazon seeds, started 12 days ago, germination success!!! Flooded tank three days ago, looked so amazing. 70% of the plants have been uprooted from the sand and have floated the the top of the water... now I have to restart hoping to let them germinate for longer so they have bigger more developed root systems, but alas discovery requires experimentation.
Nice work!
Do I need high light?
@@southernalexroots8097 nope, had lights on all mine, but nothing fancy or crazy. They just need the humidity.
Probably not.
Does any plant start submerged, i thought rivers edge where there is moist soil. Just trying to start by planting in soil in plastic clear egg box and put on window sill.
can they grow in an already established aquarium ?Thank you!
WHERE’S MY F@$?1*% COW
MOO!
i got mine from ebay last year and they worked great .. i am now going to try the same seeds i had left over from last year to see if it still works as good starting it today
Good luck!
Def. looking forward to seeing your updates on this...
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Well, I bought my seeds from China on eBay, they grow fast and tall, remember that aquarium plants need food!!.
To keep planted aquariums healthy and nice looking, some basic plant care measures should be performed regularly. Feeding aquatic plants is the same thing as *fertilizing their environment* with nutrients. Nutrients should be present in both the *substrate* and the *water* to assure the plants are getting the proper amounts.🌿
Thanks for sharing but whatr kind of plants were they?
Lol 🤣
Jack and the Beanstalk analogy? Lol. I cant remember what kind of seeds I used, but it was supposed to be a carpet type of plant. I think it was called carpet plant. The problem was that these plants grew tall. I think I got the wrong seeds or my lighting was too low
Yup. Thanks for sharing.
I got mine in Amazon and this is what I think:
According to the seller they were Wpmlady aquarium plants seeds (small leaf grass)
The first impression is this mucus substance that holds the "seeds" together I guess is the reaction you get form adding the water to it.
It is not, let me capitalize that is NOT small leaf grass, it grows fast, however it is aquatic, got it in the aquarium for more than two months now, I do use Co2 and they get some reddish leafs on the top ones, I wish I could add a photo. Not happy with it, but it does serve as an extra aquarium plant, great for hiding.
That's interesting! I looked it up. Kinda expensive. Does it look like it does in the product pics? I don't think those are small leaf "grass".
@@TheWaterBox I will be more than happy to send you a picture... it is not what is advertize, if you want I can posted on your FB page and fell free to use it.
Just post it in our facebook group :)
I’ve never been able to grow an aquarium from seeds.
Thanks for sharing!
I didnt know you could buy aquarium seeds...im looking for a seed that will grow into a 6x2x2 tank...pmsl...x
It's a random risk but good luck!
I have two tanks going. I started one two months ago:
nano tank 1 gallon..
Seachem Flourite Black Clay Gravel
Wpmlady Aquarium Grass Plants Seeds (Small Leaf Grass)
Freshwater Aquarium Live Plants Dwarf Baby tears Seeds Foreground or Carpeting in Planted Fish Tank.
BOTH plants look exactly the same! (amazon purchase)
Marimo Moss Balls
This tank is clean, water is crystal clear using hang on filter with carbon.
the carpet took off nice started adding water to cover after two weeks about 1cm every other day until 2 inches above plant, then I filled the tank completely. looks awesome. plants are not as green now as they were in the first two weeks, maybe they had access to more co2 out of the water. I'm trying to see how they do w/o co2
Tank #2 30 gallons 3 weeks ago:
organic soil 1inch, Seachem Onyx Sand 1inch, Seachem Flourite Black Clay Gravel 1-2inches
same seeds as nano tank
BOTH plants look exactly the same!
I also planted seeds in some 10inch tall (dead) coral rocks. seeds are growing nicely
started with water level up to the lowest substrate..
This one I used a fog/mister using wifi timer on the hour to keep everything moist. This was actually raising the water level nice and slow so I just let it. in about 2 weeks all seeds except those on the rocks were covered and growing nicely.
I now have about 10inches of water in the tank and the water has a slight green tint!
all the plants are doing well so far.
I'm thinking of adding UV sterilizer to clear up the apparent algae bloom...
It's only been 1 week of green water I did add a sponge filter and a skimmer 3 days ago, still green though.
so the carpet looks amazing but, the jury is still out on whether or not the 30 gallon tank is going to make it.
Is the green tint due to plants "melting" or could this really be an algae bloom?
Well, let us know in 3 or 4 months. Thanks!
I think the sand may have been a mistake!
how are the roots ever going to get to the soil?????
They grow into the soil? I'm not sure I understand your question. Root grow out and usually toward sources of nutrients.
@@TheWaterBox In your "Soil Substrate Aquarium Setup Guide AKA Dirt a Tank" video you add sand on top of your soil. But you also plant fully rooted plants and punch them through the sand and into to soil.
I have... soil, sand then gravel. I planted seeds. I don't think my "carpet" roots will ever get through the sand and into the soil??
Maybe I'll add some fully grown plants as well??? Thanks :-)
It will, it's seeds, As long as it grow, the plant roots will find a way. I put the plants I had in the video deeper because they are full grown plants.
Check me in the nope... amazon seeds did not work at all category. Buying pre grown cultures was much more successful for me
It just seems a little more easier to place too than to sprinkle seeds around randomly eh? Thanks for sharing!
Out of context, but did anyone tell you that they love your video thumbnails? 🤣
Haha yeh a couple of times now ;)
I am currently trying to grow “dwarf hair grass” seeds from Amazon and it’s been 5 days and still no signes of germination
Ooo, you might have gotten a bad pack. I'd wait another week and see what happened.
I will be waiting for that seed plant video. Thanks for you video.
You got it! Thanks for watching!
Guys seeds work if you buy to the right store
Thanks
im trying it right now im setting up a fishtank to put on my livestreams for twitch im on like day 7 of my dry start. the only clew ihave to what the seeds are is at the bottom it says "freshwater aquarium dwarf ...h tank betta will love it. NEW" the picture is too small to make out what the plant is but they a re sprouting and look like a grass so im guessing they are dwarf hairgrass. idk when to add enough water to submerge them
Well, you can only just grow it out and see what happens. I'm pretty sure they aren't actual aquic plants but only way to know is to try it.
@@TheWaterBox lol did a drystart they did pretty good until i added water
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I just bought some from amazon, tried it in a small bowl just to see the results and within 6 days it was a carpet. i flooded it and 1 week later still growing very green and thick. suppose to be glosso and looks like it. it made my water a little gunky at first but after a few water changes it seems to be working fine
But give us an update in a year. You've only had it for 1 month???
@@dianemiles2720 if i revisit this video id definitely give an update. but this is how far ive gotten trying out seeds. Praying they work long term because i would love to do a bigger tank
Good luck and let us know how it goes as time goes by!
4 month update?
@@ioriok_KeanUniversity unfortunately it ended up melting and i rescaped the jar.
Just bought yesterday however all in Chinese.
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No they don't grow just became slime.
Sorry to hear that
Currently 10 days into the sprouting phase... once my co2 tank and equipment gets in I am flooding the tank. So far its a success and the carpet looks good.
lol im looking for my cow too,,,,,,,
Moo baby!
*WHERE ARE OUR FU*%ING COWS*
MOO MOO!
The Water Box 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Great story telling on that guy named Jack 😅...anyhow, yeah, hope to see those seeds in your next tank project. Take care, man and stay safe
Thanks 👍 You too!
Got 2 Pack Aquarium Small Leaf Grass, Aquarium Water Grass for Fish Tank Decoration Creates Lush Green Carpet Plant on the Big River Store. They sprouted after 3-4 days with DSM, will flood two weeks after planting.
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Used once.. And wouldnt recommended it.. Its so fragile and quick to melt once submerged..
Thanks for sharing.
I ordered dwarf grass seeds from Ebay before watching this video. I haven't received them yet but i'll up date you.
Good luck
so I just bought some flourite gravel substrate, would this be fine to grow monte carlo on?
Sure. make sure you're dosing your water column.
I got seeds from wish and they worked fine until I got brown algae and that killed them!
Sorry to hear that
I think you channel is great my mulm wanted to ask about c02 diffuser cleaning
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Dude they work if know how a seed works. If it goes wrong with u, u dont understand aquarium stuff
Right on!
I dry started some and some i just dropped in and they both worked for me
cool
Love the video, it helped clear out so. Many of my doubts thanks
Glad to hear it!
Damn. Clicked this to watch u salt bae some seeds in a DSM tank
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First off that intro about the old man and the cow was unexpected. Where's our 🤬 cow 😂😂😂😂 you are the best 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
@@TheWaterBox You have a great channel I really enjoy it.
I'm trying myself to build up my channel I post about two videos a week it's not easy it's a lot of work but I hit a plateau and I'm not really growing anymore, I'm starting to think about just forgetting about this TH-cam thing.
TH-cam can be a hard thing. You just keep pushing and find what works for your audience until you can really grow.
@@TheWaterBox You are a very positive person and thank you for the words of encouragement I appreciate your support sir.
The birds and the bees...aquarium plants!!! Seeds....Do fish eat seeds and propogate a plant? No fxxn idea...sounds stupid...apparently the chinese know about these things...no they dont...great for dry start...try submersing them...its shit...they die...its a bollocks...they will propogate...they are not glosso seeds...gauranteed....
Thanks for the insight!!
@@TheWaterBox Wasn't insight as you know..but ta...here's a topic...so aquatic seeds from China are crap..how about.....co2 regulators..diffusers...filter media...tubing...led's...etc..ordering large bonsai and getting a matchbox parcel...it goes on...
Got it.
I bought seeds from Amazon that did grow into plants. Then I bought seeds on Ebay that are supposed to produce Buce and it did not produce any.
Ug, sorry to hear that
@@TheWaterBox I think it is worth taking the risk because seeds are a fraction of the price of plants. If I managed to grow one single Buce out of the whole bag, it would have been worth it as any Buce plant is at least 10 bucks each.
That's true but the question is if it's ACTUALLY Buce.
@@TheWaterBox I will never know as not a single Buce grew.
Bummers!
Very interesting video. Ty
Glad you enjoyed it
Upvoted cos of the cow story
Cows are awesome!
Just planted some Dwarf Hairgrass seeds ordered from Amazon 3 days ago in a new nano tank. Looking forward to updates on this
Let us know how it goes!
How did this go?
A like for the pic.
Haha thanks!
loove the intro.
:) Glad you liked it. :) Thanks for watching
Just put the Moskila Love Grass plants seed which I bought from Amazon into my tank today using the DSM. Will update you on how it goes in 2 weeks!
Never heard of them. Good luck.
Hey I just bought the exact same seeds how are they doing ?
@@epaquatics5689 - They died after 3 weeks. The grass itself is long, like sprouts, so they're not actually grass. I wouldn't waste time doing it, especially since I waited for 2 weeks before I filled in the water. Just not worth it!
I already tried dry starting seeds. it works. it keeps on growing even on a very low tech tank. the only problem is that they don't root deeply. if you have fish especially bottom feeders, they can easily pull them out on the substrate, every day you'll see them floating. and they adjust or convert a lot depending on the environment. my small leaf now turns into fern-like long leaves.
Good to know!
Loved the intro XD !
Thanks!
I did it and it actually freaking worked😂
Right on
Did they survive ?
I wish you could add comments on reviews on amazon to ask questions.
You can ask questions on a product.
Anthony's Fishy Friends you can if you’re on the desktop website, not on mobile though
Ah! Thanks for clarifying. I don't use amazon on my phone much.
You can comment on a review AND ask questions on the desktop site. (I use amazon too much. There. I said it )
@@TheWaterBox I'm saying I wish you could comment on reviews to find out more info as most reviews for any item goes along the lines, "it was good" or "it was crap" but why? What did you do to make it work for or not work. Like you said, if they're drowning seeds it probably will not work. But how do you know their process?
Did I run into you at Tong's last year? You were talking about your scats? You look so familiar!
You were saying how you buy the mysis shrimp in the big flat bags instead of cubes? I swear it was you! I'm in Huntington Beach.
Nope. I don't think so. What is Tong's?
@@TheWaterBox Ahh okay, Tong's Fish Store in Fountain Valley! Sorry for the mistake, I must've ran into your doppelgänger haha.
@@creaturefiend714 You never know.
@@TheWaterBox Haha thank for the replies, take care! Love your videos 🤙🏽