That was back when disc's could hold all the data. In order to do it nowadays, we would need to bring back cartridges, similar to USB drives and SD cards
your right about game preservation , we just gonna have to rip it and archive it ourselves regardless if microsoft supports it or not,.keep your steam game locally stores as much as possible cuz they are tools to unlock them if steam decides to pull the plug
It’s a shame what just happened to Titanfall. It’s not even that old. It won’t be very long when we will start to see the dominos fall and tons of games from the PS4/X1 era will vanish. When Destiny goes I know that’s going to upset some folks. Destiny 2 is already unaliving content for a still active game.
No, he is wrong. Almost everyone misunderstands Xbox’s DRM free system. Microsoft lets you create an unlimited number of offline physical installation media containing the full game and updated. With this you can copy the full game to any Xbox offline, insert the disc, and play, Insha’Allah (God Willing). No connection to Xbox live required!
In 2010 I was in the 10th grade and I had Halo Reach delivered to my house WAY out in the country day 1 via mail pre-order. I can’t begin to tell you how insanely excited I was to get started on that game and how absolutely soul crushing it would have been to be told I need internet. I really would have been screwed.
I miss it when halo physicals came with manuals, but the manuals were always special, either with an intro lore, set up, awesome artworks, it always felt special, weighty.
@@FirestormDDash A later version of Spyro contains all 3 games on disc for ps4 at least, not sure about Xbox. There's no real way of knowing except buying it and trying it out.
@@EmuNext I heard about that. I actually sent my disc in to activision(?) Under a disc replacement warrenty asking such a question. They replied with they are doing no such update on discs. Ambiguous if they ment all or just xbox.
You're young enough that you've always had to download video games? Dear god we're really hitting that point aren't we, when people weren't even alive to remember just sticking the game in and playing.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's most likely just placeholder data, because you could also pre-download the campaign on Game Pass, but when the game actually was fully released, the Game Pass predownload was deleted, and it was redownloaded again, because it apparently was only a placeholder and contained no actual game files, just bloat placeholders to occupy the expected needed storage space. I'm guessing the disc also contains bloat, or requires the multiplayer half to even function, or the campaign is an unfinished old build on the disc and is almost entirely overwritten anyway. Someone would need to data mine the disc to confirm, because Microsoft won't tell us what's actually on it.
Dude I’m a trucker and that fucked up predownload made me so mad. I couldn’t figure out what happened but I had very carefully made sure I slowly preloaded the game so I could play at release but nope. Had to wait like 5 extra days to start.
That's so horrible making people download 14 GB to so they can erase it what a waste of Internet data not to mention wear and tear on the device receiving the data horrible
I think is like that, dude. My friend had to download the MP twice because he first downloaded via Steam but when he wanted to download the campaign via Gamepass, he had to downloaded the campaign along with the MP. Basically the Campaign can't work without the MP in the digital version. Download digital games in my country is a pain in the add because Internet connections
@@VSMOKE1 IG the reason they did that was to stop people hacking their way in, but also having it downloaded so you wouldnt have to deleted anything to download it on the day
Actually, while this could be true, it’s just as likely that Microsoft requires a update for a DRM patch. Usually these render the game useless until the day one patch goes live, preventing early leaks/access to the game. I just can’t see 14 gigs of placeholder data being shipped out on a disc for no reason.
If you have the digital files and an ounce of knowledge, you certainly own it. It's funny that people think digital games give you less ownership than disks, yet the digital ones are much easier to crack and copy for a secure backup.
You do own the game. Disc games are DRM free. Microsoft has instructions on how to make fully playable offline installation media for Halo Infinite and other disc games. Preserving Halo Infinite is very easy, Alhamdullillah!
@@MrEsphoenix are you high? The digital one, something can always go wrong, but with the disc, unless you cock up, that aint being taken back by the devs
@@lonewolfx7552 if you survive up to year 2052 and in the post-apocalypse you got an xbox working but the internet is long gone, you won't be able to play this.
Owning hard copies of a game was always what I’ve done. Now if the game ever gets shut down. I can’t play this game ever again. Terrible. Literally unplayable with the disc. 🥴
If for some reason they shut it down you could always just download a cracked version. Not sure why people think disks are any safer than digital files, you can always store the files on a disk if it makes you feel better.
Wrong. Halo Infinite can be installed and played fully offline. You need to read Microsoft’s instructions on how to create an offline installation media.
@@MrEsphoenix You don’t need to crack anything. Microsoft has instructions on how to preserve Halo Infinite and any other disc games (and updates) for offline réinstallation without needing to connect to the internet.
You can do it, Insha’Allah (God Willing). Microsoft has instructions on how to create your own offline installation media, which allows you to reinstall and play Halo Infinite fully offline.
But you do. Physical copy of Halo Infinite is fully yours and DRM free, Alhamdullillah. Microsoft has instructions on how to make offline installation media for the full game, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
*Most Developers:* “They can only play our game if they’re connected online, it’s perfect!” *Mobile gamers with tv briefcases for travel:* “Hey, we exist still. Please don’t kill us off!” 🥺
@@requiemagent3014 Your argument is not valid as Halo Infinite is not available on the Nintendo Switch. So I cannot just “get a Switch for fucks sake” as it doesn’t play Infinite, for Fucks Sake! Now you see my problem!
@@mro4ts457 You can download the game and then play offline after that. I'm not sure what the outrage with Infinite is when all console games have worked like this since the Xbox One came out.
@@Neothunder240 Oh no, I’m not directing this at Infinite entirely😂 I’ve been furious since they started this with the xbox one, don’t get me started on their original announcement (rolled back) that XBones weren’t originally going to be playable “offline”
This happened to me on launch i bought the game to play early day 1 but it wouldn’t let me, I had to wait for the “campaign update”, it really frustrated but the game is really good so I guess i cant complain
4:44 - And this is why i'm glad it's on PC and distributed through steam. The steam files can be modded and the "microsoft account" sign in can be bypassed with a mock server. For game preservation on consoles -- It's aweful though. You essentially have to mod the console if they shut down the servers, and hope newer consoles can be modded, or they are directly entirely e-waste. Which sucks. I really wish the "go-gold" philosophy would be enforced again, and day0 / day1 patches not be allowed for a few months after game release so we get complete games on launch.
Yet another person completely wrong about game preservation on Xbox. Disc games are DRM free you can preserve and reinstall Halo Infinite fully offline and have it playable without ever connecting to the server. You just need to create a physical installation media, which you can make many off and even give copies to others or sell online to allow others to install and play Halo Infinite offline, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
I feel the same way I feel about game disks as CD’s, VHS and DVD’s. Everything is more convenient now but nothing is as special as holding it and owning it yourself. Games feel a lot less special now.
Physical Xbox games, INCLUDING Halo Infinite can be fully preserved, Alhamdullillah. Microsoft has clear instructions on how to do this. I’m tired of people spreading FUD about “unusable” physical media offline, causing even more people to misunderstand, SubhanAllah!
@@richardhobbs7360 Why are you tired? I am trying to share potentially important information on preserving Xbox disc games to people that otherwise might not know. SubhanAllah, I don’t have a million subscribers that I can just make one video describing the process and inform the masses. I don’t have that luxury. But Alhamdullillah, I am happy that Allah (S.W.T.) has given me the ability to individual respond to a few of the comments.
the funny part is the disks for the Xbox one have a capacity of 50gb. the FULLY INSTALLED size of both campaign and multiplayer for infinite is 48.5 gb. I honestly cant see why they just put the whole game on the disk. or just the campaign if I'm wrong and infinite takes up more space than expected.
You can create physical installation media for Xbox games to reinstall and play disc games, fully patched and complete, offline, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
What a scam, they don't even tell you on the box that Internet is required to play. Why even put out the damn disc version of this game if this is how you are going to do gamers.
@@jhnyjoejoe69 No. Not obvious. That’s why 99% misunderstands this. You can create offline installation media for Halo Infinite-the full, playable, game, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
@@NazmusLabs more like 9%. You gotta be real dumb if you haven't noticed this has been a thing since last gen. Every time you buy disc it wants to update before you get to play anything with no option to skip. That's a dead and obvious give away.
Same thing for battlefield 4. I had 2mbps download speeds but good latency at my previous address, so I went all the way to town and brought a dvd reader for my computer and the game. Got home, installed the disk reader, and found that I'd need to download the entire thing anyway. Which means days of downloading without being able to do anything else on the internet at the time.
That’s only the first few missions…it doesn’t include the open world. It’s like that so you can start playing campaign while the rest is downloading. Since you are offline it recognizes that you cannot download the full campaign and so it will not let you start it. This has nothing to do with multiplayer.
I think it's really sad that these days developers getting more cheap and scummy putting sweet fa on the game discs and you have to download pretty much the entire game to play it. So fucked.
Not really. It's inevitable as games get bigger and more complex. I find these conspiracy theory's funny considering the digital files give you more ownership of your game than a disk anyway and are easier to crack and copy. If people weren't so stubborn to change, we could possibly have moved on to games being sold on flash drives by now.
To be fair this is still pretty uncommon, the idea that the majority of modern games have nothing on the disc and are just licence keys are a common misconception. I think people are just confused about how the installation for disc based games work online Vs offline. Though it is disappointing that Microsoft have done this for both Halo and Forza this time round :(
@@JimBobJoeB0b While this may be true the load times and texture pop in would be atrocious down to the original xbox level of load times for modern AAA games.
I wish they would keep putting the full game on the disc, and even give two discs if needed like Read Dead Redemption 2 did. It is a nice convenience, and of course you can have all the updates later on but if you are offline then you would still have the ability to play certain things about the game like with how the older Halos used to have it and etc.
Remember when they actually cared about the consumer and gave us manuals with the game. The case felt heavier and you felt like ur getting ur moneys worth. As a kid I’d read the books. Learn bout the enemy types. And Smell the case…
A few years ago I got an owned copy of oblivion goty and the thick ass manual and entire case was drenched in the aroma of cigarette smoke and it was amazing
@@ivanmontalvo9333 not always. At least not this day and age. Why lots of even (complete) discs have a good chunk of title updates, since there was usually some solid months of patches worked on when the Master Disc was sent to start printing of discs in mass. It takes time. And allotment of hours, for a industry/factory to make the games.
Pretty sure that 15GB blu rays don't exist. What's really happening is that when the game goes "gold" there's still a lot more work they do leading up to release, necessitating a day one patch.
@@nepnep1802 Mhhmm sure I am it goes right to the game screen and tells you need to insert a disc even though I own it digitally. I installed the update and downloaded the campaign from the in game menu. So no I believe your wrong and it's just another way modern gaming is trying to screw over people that don't have internet.
Man I still remember the spyro issue where the discs per system was wildly different install sizes and didnt have the full game on it. Just a demo type.
Halo Infinite is 36.7gb for both campaing and multiplayer which can easily fit on disc as xbox one discs are blu ray discs that can easily fit around 45gb on
Is there a way to get into the code or something like that to bypass the "installation incomplete" message and get the game to run? Maybe do it on a PC or fake it until you make it.
such a shame whats happening to the gaming industry. everything digital and download. mtx plaguing games. incomplete messy releases. wish we can go back to the old days
It doesn’t need to be on disc. Disc games are DRM free, and Microsoft has instructions for creating offline installation media. These combined makes game preservation very easy Alhamdullillah.
@@alexmawdsley That’s not a problem. You can create custom offline installation media, allowing you to install and play Halo Infinite on Xbox One and even series X OFFLINE, Alhamdullillah!
You don’t need to do anything this complicated. Microsoft has instructions for creating your own offline installation media for Halo Infinite to reinstall and play Halo Infinite on any Xbox, Insha’Allah (God Willing)! Even the series x, Alhamdullillah!
Your opening is true for some games, most games do have the 1.0 version of the game on it. Its a myth that most games do not come on disc, people get confused cause they see a day 1 patch but 90% of the time that patch is unnecessary for the full game.
Another disappointment. Remember the Halo 2 collectors edition steelbook? It had a disc with the full game preinstalled, a limited edition disc with behind the scenes videos, concepts and more. A manual which was different compared to the standart Halo 2 manual. Different cover, font and also the lore stuff was changed. It also included a card promoting the soundtrack and the guide book. A few coversations from the Halo universe for lore fans and of course the legendary 2 months Xbox Live Subscription for free (kinda)
Imagine paying full price for this thing and living in an area where you don't get good internet? I still remember a time back when I was a kid where I had to actually sit in a corner of my parents' house and use our neighbors internet just to play online games on my DS. Little kid me would be crying his eyes out right now cause I used to love Halo xD
I was downloading for example Red Dead Redemption 2 on pc 5 full days, same thing with Microsoft Flight Simulator ... With internet like this i am stuck with box editions, as long as possible. Also i like to have collections of games on my desk.
The campaign is on the disc but it's an older version and they didn't want to make new disc's and also delay the release date so they decided to just force you to download the new version once you put the disc in.
Can’t be surprised… these zoomers love this you’ll never own anything and pay monthly for everything you have portfolio… the game models, ownership and detail of the past is gone. It’s been officially sold out. Golden days are over.
It’s not that anyone likes it. It’s just that it’s all that corpos do anymore and unless you want to live in the past and only play on 360 then you can’t have it any other way
Apparently they just have more common sense than you and realise that having a disk doesn't give you any more ownership than having the files on a device of your choosing. If anything it just makes it harder to copy and crack the files.
This is my main issue with Halo Infinite, or should I say Halo Finite, is like you say, lack of game preservation. The very reason that people but physical media, is so you have the source to download the game from coneva time you can't access it online, so it I think it's wrong to sell or make a physical product that you can't install off the disk. Having this data on the Halo Infinite disk is pretty pointless, it's pretending to be a physical product when it isn't, because you simply can't install it without access to the internet and service to download it. It may as well just be a download. I'm quite disgusted with 343 with what they have done here actually, as someone who bought the physical version to actually own the game and be able to play it off the disk.
Once again, you are yet another person wrong about game preservation on Xbox. Microsoft has instructions on how to make offline installation media for the FULL game for Halo Infinite. Disc games are DRM free and you can use your custom install media to reinstall Halo Infinite and insert disc to plat, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
@@NazmusLabs It's hardly the crime of the century not knowing about this, seeing as it's far from obvious or straightforward, like other games are. I have actually tried to install it offline, have you? I am not the only person to mention that you need to be online to install it either, this very video you are commenting to also shows it couldn't be installed offline, at least to be able to actually play it. Quote me to an article or video where it says or shows you can do this and how to do it, if you claim this is to be believed. I actually hope you prove me wrong, but I don't think you will.
@@SpartasEdge No, I was 100% correct. You are wrong. I was doing a bunch of other things yesterday and I honestly didn’t have the time or energy to write you an essay response, especially when I-personally and successfully reinstalled Halo Infinite offline-the full game! To install games offline, for any Xbox consoles from xb1 onwards, you need an external hard drive. See Xbox support for how to COPY game files to external drives. From then on, you use the HARD DRIVE as the INSTALLATION MEDIA, and the DISC as the LICENSE to run your games. This also works with back compat games, Alhamdullillah! If you have the disc, you can use the hard drive to install on unlimited number of consoles and use the disc to authenticate, bypassng online authentication requirements. You also don’t have to set any consoles as your home Xbox. This works on all consoles-offline-as long as you have the hard drive with the game files and disc to authenticate. You can make multiple drives and distribute it amongst friends so they don’t even need to go online for the initial install. And Allah (S.W.T.) knows best. Insha’Allah (God Willing) this cleared things up.
This is a followup to my precious comment. PLEASE READ THAT COMMENT FIRST BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THIS ONE. 1) One important point I need to add because it has caused confusion amongst many players and even TH-camrs like MVG: You may be asked to go online if you try install and run an Xbox One game from the external drive on an Xbox Series X and vice versa. This occurs when your COPY your game files from an Xbox One (for example) onto the drive and try to run the game on another generation of console without first going online to get required updates and/or the right assets for your other console. MVG, for example, in his video was asked to go online because his hard drive only contained the Xbox One version, and not the series X version. My recommendation is just have separate hard drives for the Series X console and for the Xbox One S/X console. This way you will, Insha’Allah, know which drives will work on which consoles. 2) I would also get a third drive to store all my back compat titles. OG Xbox and 360 games are not that large, Alhamdullillah, and you may be able to fit your entire back-compat library in one drive. 3) Go ahead and feel free to try the steps from my last comment and test for yourself whether or not you can reinstall and Halo Infinite offline! If it doesn’t work or you get stuck in one of the steps, feel free to let me know. May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you and bestow upon you His Blessings.
This is just the realization of what they intended to do with the Xbox one at launch, you can't even use the series x without first connecting it to the internet ffs
I installed in offline mode. It had installed about 11GB of something, but upon opening and getting to the menu, yep, the game (campaign or multiplayer) wasn't installed.
The halo campaign is actually 15 gigs so it downloaded the campaign I only know this bc when it dropped I was on oc and it asked me to download the file
Most likely reason why it still doesn't let you play is because multiplayer is a minimum and isn't installed by the disc, unlike on MCC where the minimum installation is the menus with no actual games.
The last time I bought a physical copy was a PC game. It was an impulse buy. I put the disc in and it said I had to install steam. After I did that it started downloading the entire game. It had to search forums for awhile to figure out how to force steam to install from the disc (this was years ago). After setting it to install from the disc it still wouldn't do it. I never got it to work. I had the internet speed to let it install from download but I just decided to give up and I never played the game and didn't use steam for years after that.
There is no game preservation, companies/publishers don't care about games or preserving them and this is evident throughout the industry. if "we" the players don't preserve our favourite games they will be lost to time.
I was having a discussion with someone about how PC gaming isn't worth it because you need a gaming PC to get smooth gameplay with good graphics. And then you have the latest console titles, where you have to download games after you buy them from the store and put them in the disc try.
He there is an Easter egg in halo infinite sometimes if your on a mountain and shoot behind you there is a cloaked phantom that is revealed . The blademaster is following you.
Making you install 15GB then telling you you have to go online is such a troll move. Plus Phil Spencer just said that he wanted to take game preservation seriously.
Im disappointed also that it seems you have to be connected to the internet to just even customize you multiplayer spartan even when you unlock armor in campaign...
I got the disk and it wouldn't install anything. It downloaded the full 25 GB campaign from the servers. I was hoping to save some download time but nope. I guess I had to have my Xbox disconnected before installing first
I never understood why game companies nowadays bother with physical discs if the disc itself doesn’t even have anything on it. Blu-Ray’s are supposed to be able to hold at least 50GB’s of data. So, you’re telling me that they can’t put 50GB’s on the disc and have whatever they can’t fit as a download? Or at the very least do what Red Dead Redemption 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 did and have two discs to install the game onto.
Remember the days when you would put in the disc and the game would just play right away without downloading anything.
The good old times when the xbox one launch the whole download games from disc that's when i decided to go full pc and I haven't regret it since
@@samuelfranco3744 what’s the difference ? Pc or Xbox you download both
@@haloepic3092
No stupid pay to play online bs for PC.
That was back when disc's could hold all the data.
In order to do it nowadays, we would need to bring back cartridges, similar to USB drives and SD cards
Now you have to download the entire game and then usually and huge update right after.
I so badly miss the days of being able to put a disc in and being able to play without any installs or internet.
2001 - 2007 really was the golden era of Xbox for me.
We can't fit all that code on a single disc
@@mechoius4054 game discs can hold 50 GB max, infinite campaign is only around 20, 49 GB for the whole game.
Ya discs are useless now. It's fucked up
@@yeetmcmeat Not all games are that size tho. Most big FPS titles these days are over 100 gigs. Look up how much a 100 gig disc costs.
your right about game preservation , we just gonna have to rip it and archive it ourselves regardless if microsoft supports it or not,.keep your steam game locally stores as much as possible cuz they are tools to unlock them if steam decides to pull the plug
The cracks on the PC version, that can be installed offline are already there
But yeah sucks for the consoles
It’s a shame what just happened to Titanfall. It’s not even that old. It won’t be very long when we will start to see the dominos fall and tons of games from the PS4/X1 era will vanish. When Destiny goes I know that’s going to upset some folks. Destiny 2 is already unaliving content for a still active game.
No, he is wrong. Almost everyone misunderstands Xbox’s DRM free system. Microsoft lets you create an unlimited number of offline physical installation media containing the full game and updated. With this you can copy the full game to any Xbox offline, insert the disc, and play, Insha’Allah (God Willing). No connection to Xbox live required!
@@manuxx3543 False. Why do you all get this wrong about Xbox and game preservation. Read my previous reply.
@@NazmusLabs but this video just prove u wrong, u must go online before playing it. Am i wrong?
In 2010 I was in the 10th grade and I had Halo Reach delivered to my house WAY out in the country day 1 via mail pre-order. I can’t begin to tell you how insanely excited I was to get started on that game and how absolutely soul crushing it would have been to be told I need internet. I really would have been screwed.
Had to drive an hour to the nearest game stop
I bought it back in the day before internet to.
how did you even know the game existed without internet? How did you know what an xbox even was
@@awesomeneiss There’s tv ads
@@awesomeneiss word of mouth, kids at school, playing Xbox at a friends house etc
I miss it when halo physicals came with manuals, but the manuals were always special, either with an intro lore, set up, awesome artworks, it always felt special, weighty.
Dang. I forgot all about this. Hit me right in the feels.
Or when a disc came with the game
thats every game nowadays
Halo 3 came with a small 2 sided poster for example
Not anymore
Can't believe this will be the only Halo game i won't be getting in physical, well maybe ill buy it just for the collection.
Thats my mindset. Collection. Spyro did it too.
Also physical had preorder skins so there was that.
@@FirestormDDash A later version of Spyro contains all 3 games on disc for ps4 at least, not sure about Xbox. There's no real way of knowing except buying it and trying it out.
@@EmuNext I heard about that. I actually sent my disc in to activision(?) Under a disc replacement warrenty asking such a question.
They replied with they are doing no such update on discs.
Ambiguous if they ment all or just xbox.
just get three months of gamer pass for like a dollar lol
No don't do it that's why They do s*** like this because they know people will compromise
Remember when you could just... Stick the disk in and play the game?
nope. I always had to download. Not to mention the games you use to play were small compared to now. Also you can always do pre install
You're young enough that you've always had to download video games? Dear god we're really hitting that point aren't we, when people weren't even alive to remember just sticking the game in and playing.
@@ShaggyDabbyDank I'm pretty young and I remember those days of just popping the disc in. I miss them.
@@ShaggyDabbyDank I mean steam has been around since 2003
Yep bu tthen I'v ebeen gaming mos tof my life.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's most likely just placeholder data, because you could also pre-download the campaign on Game Pass, but when the game actually was fully released, the Game Pass predownload was deleted, and it was redownloaded again, because it apparently was only a placeholder and contained no actual game files, just bloat placeholders to occupy the expected needed storage space. I'm guessing the disc also contains bloat, or requires the multiplayer half to even function, or the campaign is an unfinished old build on the disc and is almost entirely overwritten anyway. Someone would need to data mine the disc to confirm, because Microsoft won't tell us what's actually on it.
Dude I’m a trucker and that fucked up predownload made me so mad. I couldn’t figure out what happened but I had very carefully made sure I slowly preloaded the game so I could play at release but nope. Had to wait like 5 extra days to start.
That's so horrible making people download 14 GB to so they can erase it what a waste of Internet data not to mention wear and tear on the device receiving the data horrible
I think is like that, dude. My friend had to download the MP twice because he first downloaded via Steam but when he wanted to download the campaign via Gamepass, he had to downloaded the campaign along with the MP.
Basically the Campaign can't work without the MP in the digital version.
Download digital games in my country is a pain in the add because Internet connections
@@VSMOKE1 IG the reason they did that was to stop people hacking their way in, but also having it downloaded so you wouldnt have to deleted anything to download it on the day
Actually, while this could be true, it’s just as likely that Microsoft requires a update for a DRM patch. Usually these render the game useless until the day one patch goes live, preventing early leaks/access to the game.
I just can’t see 14 gigs of placeholder data being shipped out on a disc for no reason.
If they get to decide when you can play the game, you don't own the game.
If you have the digital files and an ounce of knowledge, you certainly own it. It's funny that people think digital games give you less ownership than disks, yet the digital ones are much easier to crack and copy for a secure backup.
You do own the game. Disc games are DRM free. Microsoft has instructions on how to make fully playable offline installation media for Halo Infinite and other disc games. Preserving Halo Infinite is very easy, Alhamdullillah!
@@MrEsphoenix are you high? The digital one, something can always go wrong, but with the disc, unless you cock up, that aint being taken back by the devs
@@NazmusLabs disc games are not drm free? and you cant just make an offline installation media?? tf you on about
@@richardhobbs7360 No, I'm just not technologically illiterate.
Let me cut down the 5 minute video down to 10 seconds for you:
It contains the full campaign on the disk but not actually usable
Thank you.
No seriously, thank you.
How is it not usable? I have the disk and it works fine
@@lonewolfx7552 if you survive up to year 2052 and in the post-apocalypse you got an xbox working but the internet is long gone, you won't be able to play this.
@@lonewolfx7552 he said in the video it needed to be connected to xbox live to do something
Owning hard copies of a game was always what I’ve done. Now if the game ever gets shut down. I can’t play this game ever again. Terrible. Literally unplayable with the disc. 🥴
You can literally have a disc that doesn't even play the game LOOOOOOL
If for some reason they shut it down you could always just download a cracked version. Not sure why people think disks are any safer than digital files, you can always store the files on a disk if it makes you feel better.
Wrong. Halo Infinite can be installed and played fully offline. You need to read Microsoft’s instructions on how to create an offline installation media.
@@JasonTubeOffical No, he and 99% of people are wrong. All Disc based Xbox games can be fully preserved for offline reinstallation.
@@MrEsphoenix You don’t need to crack anything. Microsoft has instructions on how to preserve Halo Infinite and any other disc games (and updates) for offline réinstallation without needing to connect to the internet.
For “Game preservation” lol for me I still want access to my games if society falls apart. I know I’m not the only one thinking it
You can do it, Insha’Allah (God Willing). Microsoft has instructions on how to create your own offline installation media, which allows you to reinstall and play Halo Infinite fully offline.
thats why im into crytp gaming, its decentralized and controlled by no one but the players.
Halo infinite is the only one I didn't get on disc
Me too
But you do. Physical copy of Halo Infinite is fully yours and DRM free, Alhamdullillah. Microsoft has instructions on how to make offline installation media for the full game, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
@@sgtpaloogoo2811 Same
*Most Developers:* “They can only play our game if they’re connected online, it’s perfect!”
*Mobile gamers with tv briefcases for travel:* “Hey, we exist still. Please don’t kill us off!” 🥺
Get a switch for fuck sake
@@requiemagent3014
Your argument is not valid as Halo Infinite is not available on the Nintendo Switch.
So I cannot just “get a Switch for fucks sake” as it doesn’t play Infinite, for Fucks Sake!
Now you see my problem!
@@requiemagent3014 can you send me a link of where I can buy a Halo Infinite cartridge for the Switch?
@@mro4ts457 You can download the game and then play offline after that. I'm not sure what the outrage with Infinite is when all console games have worked like this since the Xbox One came out.
@@Neothunder240
Oh no, I’m not directing this at Infinite entirely😂
I’ve been furious since they started this with the xbox one, don’t get me started on their original announcement (rolled back) that XBones weren’t originally going to be playable “offline”
This happened to me on launch i bought the game to play early day 1 but it wouldn’t let me, I had to wait for the “campaign update”, it really frustrated but the game is really good so I guess i cant complain
No no, the campaign not being playable after installing it is definitely fine to complain about.
4:44 - And this is why i'm glad it's on PC and distributed through steam.
The steam files can be modded and the "microsoft account" sign in can be bypassed with a mock server.
For game preservation on consoles -- It's aweful though. You essentially have to mod the console if they shut down the servers, and hope newer consoles can be modded, or they are directly entirely e-waste. Which sucks.
I really wish the "go-gold" philosophy would be enforced again, and day0 / day1 patches not be allowed for a few months after game release so we get complete games on launch.
Yet another person completely wrong about game preservation on Xbox. Disc games are DRM free you can preserve and reinstall Halo Infinite fully offline and have it playable without ever connecting to the server. You just need to create a physical installation media, which you can make many off and even give copies to others or sell online to allow others to install and play Halo Infinite offline, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
I feel the same way I feel about game disks as CD’s, VHS and DVD’s. Everything is more convenient now but nothing is as special as holding it and owning it yourself. Games feel a lot less special now.
Physical Xbox games, INCLUDING Halo Infinite can be fully preserved, Alhamdullillah. Microsoft has clear instructions on how to do this. I’m tired of people spreading FUD about “unusable” physical media offline, causing even more people to misunderstand, SubhanAllah!
@@NazmusLabs I'm tired of you trying to argue that DRM free= disc, but here we are
@@richardhobbs7360 Why are you tired? I am trying to share potentially important information on preserving Xbox disc games to people that otherwise might not know. SubhanAllah, I don’t have a million subscribers that I can just make one video describing the process and inform the masses. I don’t have that luxury. But Alhamdullillah, I am happy that Allah (S.W.T.) has given me the ability to individual respond to a few of the comments.
I forgor halo infinite had a disc
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U tellin me the preorder skins are gonna be rare? Hot.
He forgor
@@kevinperron5767 lol
the funny part is the disks for the Xbox one have a capacity of 50gb. the FULLY INSTALLED size of both campaign and multiplayer for infinite is 48.5 gb. I honestly cant see why they just put the whole game on the disk. or just the campaign if I'm wrong and infinite takes up more space than expected.
You can create physical installation media for Xbox games to reinstall and play disc games, fully patched and complete, offline, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
What a scam, they don't even tell you on the box that Internet is required to play. Why even put out the damn disc version of this game if this is how you are going to do gamers.
I didn't know this. Thank you for the heads up
Should be obvious by now.
@@jhnyjoejoe69 No. Not obvious. That’s why 99% misunderstands this. You can create offline installation media for Halo Infinite-the full, playable, game, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
@@NazmusLabs more like 9%.
You gotta be real dumb if you haven't noticed this has been a thing since last gen.
Every time you buy disc it wants to update before you get to play anything with no option to skip. That's a dead and obvious give away.
@@NazmusLabs yeah you can play offline only AFTER you connect to the internet first. You still gotta connect online to play it for the first time.
@@jhnyjoejoe69 yeah, he doesnt have the critical thinking to realise that
I thought I was going to be clever and buy the disc in the morning so I didn’t have to wait until 1pm EST and boy was I disappointed.
Same thing for battlefield 4. I had 2mbps download speeds but good latency at my previous address, so I went all the way to town and brought a dvd reader for my computer and the game. Got home, installed the disk reader, and found that I'd need to download the entire thing anyway. Which means days of downloading without being able to do anything else on the internet at the time.
That’s only the first few missions…it doesn’t include the open world.
It’s like that so you can start playing campaign while the rest is downloading.
Since you are offline it recognizes that you cannot download the full campaign and so it will not let you start it.
This has nothing to do with multiplayer.
Nope. You have to download the rest first.
I think it's really sad that these days developers getting more cheap and scummy putting sweet fa on the game discs and you have to download pretty much the entire game to play it. So fucked.
Disks don't have the capacity for modern games.
Not really. It's inevitable as games get bigger and more complex. I find these conspiracy theory's funny considering the digital files give you more ownership of your game than a disk anyway and are easier to crack and copy. If people weren't so stubborn to change, we could possibly have moved on to games being sold on flash drives by now.
To be fair this is still pretty uncommon, the idea that the majority of modern games have nothing on the disc and are just licence keys are a common misconception.
I think people are just confused about how the installation for disc based games work online Vs offline.
Though it is disappointing that Microsoft have done this for both Halo and Forza this time round :(
@@spaceageGecko those discs can fit 50 GB. The campaign AND multiplayer could fit (obviously would have to be updated when connected online tho).
@@JimBobJoeB0b While this may be true the load times and texture pop in would be atrocious down to the original xbox level of load times for modern AAA games.
I wish they would keep putting the full game on the disc, and even give two discs if needed like Read Dead Redemption 2 did. It is a nice convenience, and of course you can have all the updates later on but if you are offline then you would still have the ability to play certain things about the game like with how the older Halos used to have it and etc.
Remember when they actually cared about the consumer and gave us manuals with the game. The case felt heavier and you felt like ur getting ur moneys worth.
As a kid I’d read the books. Learn bout the enemy types. And Smell the case…
A few years ago I got an owned copy of oblivion goty and the thick ass manual and entire case was drenched in the aroma of cigarette smoke and it was amazing
And then fuckers started caring about the planet and waste generation
I have the desk form and I never got this message, and I’m able to play the campaign.
The reason they probably do this is that a 15 GB disk is much cheaper then 50 GB disk
The other is you press discs fairly early in development, but with how much they kept updating the game, they simply didnt complete what they had.
@@FirestormDDash they print them when the game reaches its "gold" phase, which was just like a month ago.
@@ivanmontalvo9333 not always. At least not this day and age. Why lots of even (complete) discs have a good chunk of title updates, since there was usually some solid months of patches worked on when the Master Disc was sent to start printing of discs in mass. It takes time. And allotment of hours, for a industry/factory to make the games.
Pretty sure that 15GB blu rays don't exist. What's really happening is that when the game goes "gold" there's still a lot more work they do leading up to release, necessitating a day one patch.
Also if you buy the game digitally you can't play the campaign offline.
Really? I'm gonna try
@@MF-rtard89 yep the only was able to play was by putting the disc in. Luckly I bought both versions of the game otherwise I would have been screwed.
@@rexskirmisher4040 you're wrong though, testing it right this moment
@@nepnep1802 Mhhmm sure I am it goes right to the game screen and tells you need to insert a disc even though I own it digitally. I installed the update and downloaded the campaign from the in game menu. So no I believe your wrong and it's just another way modern gaming is trying to screw over people that don't have internet.
*buy game screen
Man
I still remember the spyro issue where the discs per system was wildly different install sizes and didnt have the full game on it. Just a demo type.
Halo Infinite is 36.7gb for both campaing and multiplayer which can easily fit on disc as xbox one discs are blu ray discs that can easily fit around 45gb on
Fitting on the disk isn't the problem. The disk reader is too slow
Is there a way to get into the code or something like that to bypass the "installation incomplete" message and get the game to run? Maybe do it on a PC or fake it until you make it.
Just create an offline installation media and store it away. It can Insha’Allah (God Willing), be used to reinstall the game offline.
such a shame whats happening to the gaming industry. everything digital and download. mtx plaguing games. incomplete messy releases. wish we can go back to the old days
physical disks these days are literally just a friggin license in a fancy case...god i miss the days when games were on the disk
It doesn’t need to be on disc. Disc games are DRM free, and Microsoft has instructions for creating offline installation media. These combined makes game preservation very easy Alhamdullillah.
Or just have two disc, like they used to do. One for the campaign and one for the multiplayer
Halo has never done that, unless you’re talking about ODST but that second disc was just an extension of Halo 3’s already-existing multiplayer.
@@wales2k4747 Halo 4
So infinite can run on both consoles without getting diffrent disc copies
Forward compatibility
Technically Infinite can’t run off just the disc though, on either console…
So I’d say more like Forward incompatibility?
Not really. They have to download different data to run on the Series consoles. Games being released right now are compatible with both though.
@@alexmawdsley That’s not a problem. You can create custom offline installation media, allowing you to install and play Halo Infinite on Xbox One and even series X OFFLINE, Alhamdullillah!
@@mro4ts457 No, you can create offline installation media for game preservation, Alhamdullillah.
My disc box never came with the papers in it and I never got my preorder bonus
but what if you pull those files off the hard drive, what would you be able to see.
You don’t need to do anything this complicated. Microsoft has instructions for creating your own offline installation media for Halo Infinite to reinstall and play Halo Infinite on any Xbox, Insha’Allah (God Willing)! Even the series x, Alhamdullillah!
Your opening is true for some games, most games do have the 1.0 version of the game on it. Its a myth that most games do not come on disc, people get confused cause they see a day 1 patch but 90% of the time that patch is unnecessary for the full game.
3:21 At first I thought your game was glitchy when I saw how slow it was, but then you started talking and I remembered it was a One X.
Hey why was your Master Chief Collection using a black helmet? Mine has the regular helmet…
Another disappointment. Remember the Halo 2 collectors edition steelbook? It had a disc with the full game preinstalled, a limited edition disc with behind the scenes videos, concepts and more. A manual which was different compared to the standart Halo 2 manual. Different cover, font and also the lore stuff was changed. It also included a card promoting the soundtrack and the guide book. A few coversations from the Halo universe for lore fans and of course the legendary 2 months Xbox Live Subscription for free (kinda)
I still got my ps2 and I love being able to just put the disc in and play a game immediately
Imagine paying full price for this thing and living in an area where you don't get good internet? I still remember a time back when I was a kid where I had to actually sit in a corner of my parents' house and use our neighbors internet just to play online games on my DS. Little kid me would be crying his eyes out right now cause I used to love Halo xD
I was downloading for example Red Dead Redemption 2 on pc 5 full days, same thing with Microsoft Flight Simulator ... With internet like this i am stuck with box editions, as long as possible. Also i like to have collections of games on my desk.
Thank you bro, fr. I have been questioning this also.
At least should’ve had a demo of the Campaign or Multiplayer tutorial
It contains the beginning of the campaign so you can play whilst it downloads the rest.
You can also make an offline installation media.
The campaign is on the disc but it's an older version and they didn't want to make new disc's and also delay the release date so they decided to just force you to download the new version once you put the disc in.
I miss when you could just pop the disc on and just play, or the physicals came with like the manuals showing off lore and art in 'em
Can’t be surprised… these zoomers love this you’ll never own anything and pay monthly for everything you have portfolio… the game models, ownership and detail of the past is gone. It’s been officially sold out. Golden days are over.
Life As A Service will be the norm in eight-ten years.
It’s not that anyone likes it. It’s just that it’s all that corpos do anymore and unless you want to live in the past and only play on 360 then you can’t have it any other way
OK boomer, try too accurately describe an entire generation of people as if us "zoomers" have the same idiotic personality
Apparently they just have more common sense than you and realise that having a disk doesn't give you any more ownership than having the files on a device of your choosing. If anything it just makes it harder to copy and crack the files.
@@MrEsphoenix Not really but go off
You will own nothing and you will be happy
You will own it and not be happy?
This is my main issue with Halo Infinite, or should I say Halo Finite, is like you say, lack of game preservation. The very reason that people but physical media, is so you have the source to download the game from coneva time you can't access it online, so it I think it's wrong to sell or make a physical product that you can't install off the disk.
Having this data on the Halo Infinite disk is pretty pointless, it's pretending to be a physical product when it isn't, because you simply can't install it without access to the internet and service to download it. It may as well just be a download. I'm quite disgusted with 343 with what they have done here actually, as someone who bought the physical version to actually own the game and be able to play it off the disk.
Once again, you are yet another person wrong about game preservation on Xbox. Microsoft has instructions on how to make offline installation media for the FULL game for Halo Infinite. Disc games are DRM free and you can use your custom install media to reinstall Halo Infinite and insert disc to plat, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
@@NazmusLabs It's hardly the crime of the century not knowing about this, seeing as it's far from obvious or straightforward, like other games are. I have actually tried to install it offline, have you? I am not the only person to mention that you need to be online to install it either, this very video you are commenting to also shows it couldn't be installed offline, at least to be able to actually play it.
Quote me to an article or video where it says or shows you can do this and how to do it, if you claim this is to be believed. I actually hope you prove me wrong, but I don't think you will.
@@NazmusLabs I'm assuming from your lack of response, that it was you who is in fact wrong after all.
@@SpartasEdge No, I was 100% correct. You are wrong. I was doing a bunch of other things yesterday and I honestly didn’t have the time or energy to write you an essay response, especially when I-personally and successfully reinstalled Halo Infinite offline-the full game!
To install games offline, for any Xbox consoles from xb1 onwards, you need an external hard drive. See Xbox support for how to COPY game files to external drives.
From then on, you use the HARD DRIVE as the INSTALLATION MEDIA, and the DISC as the LICENSE to run your games.
This also works with back compat games, Alhamdullillah! If you have the disc, you can use the hard drive to install on unlimited number of consoles and use the disc to authenticate, bypassng online authentication requirements. You also don’t have to set any consoles as your home Xbox. This works on all consoles-offline-as long as you have the hard drive with the game files and disc to authenticate.
You can make multiple drives and distribute it amongst friends so they don’t even need to go online for the initial install.
And Allah (S.W.T.) knows best.
Insha’Allah (God Willing) this cleared things up.
This is a followup to my precious comment. PLEASE READ THAT COMMENT FIRST BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THIS ONE.
1) One important point I need to add because it has caused confusion amongst many players and even TH-camrs like MVG: You may be asked to go online if you try install and run an Xbox One game from the external drive on an Xbox Series X and vice versa. This occurs when your COPY your game files from an Xbox One (for example) onto the drive and try to run the game on another generation of console without first going online to get required updates and/or the right assets for your other console.
MVG, for example, in his video was asked to go online because his hard drive only contained the Xbox One version, and not the series X version.
My recommendation is just have separate hard drives for the Series X console and for the Xbox One S/X console. This way you will, Insha’Allah, know which drives will work on which consoles.
2) I would also get a third drive to store all my back compat titles. OG Xbox and 360 games are not that large, Alhamdullillah, and you may be able to fit your entire back-compat library in one drive.
3) Go ahead and feel free to try the steps from my last comment and test for yourself whether or not you can reinstall and Halo Infinite offline!
If it doesn’t work or you get stuck in one of the steps, feel free to let me know.
May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you and bestow upon you His Blessings.
Microsoft makes statements about being dedicated to game preservation, then does shit like this..
You want a quick answer? Read the back of the game box.
Wish it came with a digital copy for those who own a series S
This is just the realization of what they intended to do with the Xbox one at launch, you can't even use the series x without first connecting it to the internet ffs
It doesn’t matter. Microsoft has clear instructions on how to create offline installation media for game preservation.
The entire campaign is only 14 GB? I’m surprised it’s so small. Most games I’m playing are 60-100 GB
I installed in offline mode. It had installed about 11GB of something, but upon opening and getting to the menu, yep, the game (campaign or multiplayer) wasn't installed.
Can we all acknowledge that this man was last playing anthem?
The halo campaign is actually 15 gigs so it downloaded the campaign I only know this bc when it dropped I was on oc and it asked me to download the file
It's crazy. Half the games released today won't work in 15 years when the servers go down.
Retro gaming/collecting is officially dead.
Here from Muta's video.
did you research that using the windows 7 startup theme is copyrighted?
The fact that they could put it on the disc but didn’t just cause is so dumb
.....No one talking about how the last game this man played on his One X was Anthem?!? I still have hope too, but damn!
How would you able to play the game offline 20-30-40 years later?
Most likely reason why it still doesn't let you play is because multiplayer is a minimum and isn't installed by the disc, unlike on MCC where the minimum installation is the menus with no actual games.
I like how your gamer tag is censured in some parts of the video, while other parts it isn’t. Lol.
That’s an insane gamer score by the way!
The last time I bought a physical copy was a PC game. It was an impulse buy. I put the disc in and it said I had to install steam. After I did that it started downloading the entire game. It had to search forums for awhile to figure out how to force steam to install from the disc (this was years ago). After setting it to install from the disc it still wouldn't do it. I never got it to work. I had the internet speed to let it install from download but I just decided to give up and I never played the game and didn't use steam for years after that.
There is no game preservation, companies/publishers don't care about games or preserving them and this is evident throughout the industry. if "we" the players don't preserve our favourite games they will be lost to time.
It took 4 : 38 minutes for my xbox-one s yo download. No disk.
I was having a discussion with someone about how PC gaming isn't worth it because you need a gaming PC to get smooth gameplay with good graphics.
And then you have the latest console titles, where you have to download games after you buy them from the store and put them in the disc try.
lmfao "PC gaming isnt worth it because you need a gaming PC" wat
@@Car_D_Board ikr that’s like saying “Xbox gaming isn’t worth it because you need an Xbox”
But they are DRM free and you can create offline installation media to preserve them, Alhamdullillah.
Does everyones campaign in Infinite not save. Or what's going on???
Remember when games didn’t need a 100gb download to play. Pepperridge farms remembers
Well yeah, this only released a few days ago and didn't need 100gb download so it wasn't exactly long ago.
What's the background song???
Halo 2-Heretic Hero
This would really be bad PR for people who buy the game and unfortunately don't have internet.
I love these metal cases. They look amazing
He there is an Easter egg in halo infinite sometimes if your on a mountain and shoot behind you there is a cloaked phantom that is revealed . The blademaster is following you.
Does this have the same problem as Halos MCC, 5, Wars 2?
I wish I had your wifi jeez, took me a day to download this
Only 14 gb? Thats not the full campaign, its like 24 gb.
Making you install 15GB then telling you you have to go online is such a troll move.
Plus Phil Spencer just said that he wanted to take game preservation seriously.
Im disappointed also that it seems you have to be connected to the internet to just even customize you multiplayer spartan even when you unlock armor in campaign...
Yes this need to change. As for installation, you can create an offline install media for later use, Alhamdullillah.
How is this even legal really? They're selling you a product that doesn't work.
The digital age. At least it has 17gb on it so the online update is smaller.
Spyro had like 500mb on it, so you needed the other 20gb.
You can make offline install media.
OMG WHATS THE INTRO SOUND EFFECT I RECOGNISE IT
weird, I got the disc also but it wouldn't install I had to be online, but I had the multiplayer installed already and I'm on the regular xbox one
No matter either way. You can and should create your own offline installation media containing the full game, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
Thanks for showing me what's inside. I ordered the steelbook but I'm not going to open it
The craziest part is that you/someone have been playing anthem.
Little late on this im sure, but at 2:28 you forgot to censor your gamertag like the rest of the video
Nice you have the collectors case
So less of an offline option but can you play offline afterwards.
Yes, Alhamdullillah. Also, create an offline installation media for
réinstallation later, Insha’Allah (God Willing).
The case looks pretty cool though!
i love the disc it reminds me of halo two with master cheif holding the smgs
My steelbook arrived with tire-marks.
The disc contains the secret yap yap hardcore tape with mister chief and you cant prove me wrong
I got the disk and it wouldn't install anything. It downloaded the full 25 GB campaign from the servers. I was hoping to save some download time but nope. I guess I had to have my Xbox disconnected before installing first
Make an offline installation media.
I feel bad for the people that will have physical copy, but won't be able to play because they don't have Wi-Fi.
it's now 2023, does this still happens with all physical games?
I never understood why game companies nowadays bother with physical discs if the disc itself doesn’t even have anything on it. Blu-Ray’s are supposed to be able to hold at least 50GB’s of data. So, you’re telling me that they can’t put 50GB’s on the disc and have whatever they can’t fit as a download? Or at the very least do what Red Dead Redemption 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 did and have two discs to install the game onto.
yes you can play the campaign that's why there's another halo infinite icon its the campaign