There will always be a bottleneck at some point. If you can get the frame rate you want a bottleneck isn't a negative thing that needs to be fixed. It's just how your system operates.
@@prosecanlik4296 Indeed...I do not think its actually possible to have a CPU and a GPU to operate equally 100% together. One will always out perform the other due to influence by other components and windows settings.....
The point here is that at 1440p the bottleneck against a 7800X3D is huge (you're losing 20% frame rate pairing this GPU with 4080 Super). You could get the same frame rates and 1%'s using a RTX 4080 or even a 4070 Ti while saving hundreds of dollars (or euros in Europe). More than "if you can get the frame rate you want" the real statement is "Do you need to spend so much in this card when a much cheaper Vcard would perform exactly the same?".
I have a 5800X3d and a 4080 suprim x that is binned out of this world. It is PERFECT for 1440p, and I use it on triple 27=1080s for sim racing and it crushes that, and in VRChat and VR sim racing. The X3D cache is smoking good for VR and simulator titles.
@@paweradny7906I think it has something to do with being able to access the CPU cache faster than accessing RAM. I could be wrong though. I'm not educated in how PC hardware works. Just experience.
I have this exact combo. Currently replaying CP2077 on my 4k TV. Dlss auto + RT overdrive enabled, with G-sync it feels very nice even when dipping in intense areas. The area you are walking around in this video has barely any reflections and lighting, you won't notice a difference there. If you go to area's like Megabuilding (v's first safehouse), Afterlife club or Japan town you will really see the difference. the ray tracing in cyberpunk really helps with immersion and with the overall ambience of the world.
@@blakey_wakeyNormally games won't use the whole CPU due to how their engines are designed. So in this case, even though the CPU doesn't say 100% utilization, it doesn't mean it can handle more FPS.
I don't think even my 4090 is bottlenecked by a 5800x3d because I play mostly single player games and any bottleneck just allows me to turn the graphics settings up higher so that I'm always around 150-170hz with a 170 hz monitor with everything maxxed out.
The 5800X3D seems to suit my 4070 very well at 1080p. I can play Cyberpunk with my monitor maxed out using HW Unboxed's recommended RT settings. Such a beautiful looking game even at medium textures
@@RostislavLevshov god no its not at all lmfao. its literally a 3080 basically which can still play 1440p fine. Buying it for 1080p is literally useless
I appreciate this video man! I have been using a Ryzen 5 5500+6800xt for over a year now. I want a 5800x3d since I need to remove the 15%ish bottleneck and squeeze that GPU. Honestly, it is as good as it gets for a 1440p 144hz monitor, I'm usually at 90-120 frames in AAA games and over 120 at FPS. Then hopefully sell my red devil 6800xt and get a 7900xtx big papa. Already got a Segotep GM850 PSU+ x570s Aorus Elite ax + 3tb nvme + 32 gb 3600mhz cl16. That PSU should be enough? PCpartpicker estimate wattage is 629 all including fans, aio, etc.
You’re fine with 850 watts. However, I never heard of the brand Segotep. Make sure there are at least 50 amps on the 12v rail and go for a reputable power supply brand with gold certification
@@rnapol3266def will check if 12v rail has 50 amps. Segotep GM850W cost me around $130, its gold certification and ranks B in the CPU cultist list (midrange). Thats all I know so far. Altough it has quite a market here where I live, for some reason.
@@XxMamba24xX you paid top dollar for 5800x3d and 6800xt … it should be fine, but i would go with a brand like corsair.. they go for easily 150-250 (canadian $). Segotep will work, but it might not deliver consistent and constant power output, it could fluctuate, which isnt ideal. Up to you but never save money on the power supply. My 2 canadian cents
Hi, I’ve got the 5800x with the 6800xt Red Devil at the minute, was the 5800x3d a worthwhile upgrade? Can get one for £200 new so a lot better than a 7800xt plus new board and ram. Running 32gb 3600 cl16 ram and an ASUs strix x570-e so everything fairly similar to yours. Agree with the advice on a quality psu though, cheap ones can cause huge issues
I knew this voice from your FS channel. I'm curious if you had to upgrade your PSU when you swapped all your parts? I'm probably going to get the 5800X3D as well as the 4080 super also. I only have a 650watt PSU, so I'm probably going to have to go for a 850watt minimum. The payware aircraft I've purchased have really slowed my system down (AMD 3600X and MSI 2060 Super). Thanks for sharing your findings.
I ended up fitting a Corsair rm850e as I wanted a native 12vhpwr connector as the nvidia provided splitter was too big and wouldn’t let my side panel close
@@davidnott_ I already had a slightly used ASUS Strix 850 power supply but it lacks the connector. I recently bought an RTX4080 Super (with a 5800x3D coming tomorrow) and like you was dismayed at the bulkiness of the 3 to 1 connector. But in my case (pun not intended) it all closed without any problems. This was also the first time I used an extra physical GPU support since that RTx4080 Super is enormous and extremely heavy for a GPU (I have the ASUS Tuf version). I am using this machine for flight and race simulation since these components shine in such circumstances.
Thank you for a great video, especially with the preceding video "5600X vs 5800X3D - Was Upgrading Worth It?" Highly appreciated if you do a video on swapping back to 5600x. I am in a similar situation, having upgraded from a 2080Ti to 4080 Super and swapped 5600x for 5800x3d. But just swapped back again and made some short and fast "not so scientific measurements". I run 1440p ultrawide. In MS Flight Sim (from LaGuardia airport over NYCity from the north) with TAA and frame generation, rendering at 150% resolution and then downscaling to native I get a super sharp image (with DLSS it gets blurry). It gave me approx 70fps (~20% improvement over 5600x). But it also gave me 60fps in the 1%low, which is a massive improvement over 5600x. Tried some other settings, and the gold is in the 1% and 0.1% low. But having that said, MSFS is playable with both cpu's. Another not so optimized (alpha) game, Star Citizen, did not at all show these gains. Red Dead Redemption gave massive improvements (TTA High) while God of War and Battlefield 1 (both in ultra and native resolution) is very close even though 5800x3d still has better lows. But all of the 3 games run just fine regardless of cpu. Is it worth the upgrade? Gennerally yes, but it depends on the use case and I am still not sure... Would love to see your results!
Im in the exact same shoes here. I got a 4080 with an 1440p ultrawide and I want to get a 5800x3d now. My only conceirn is, that my 240mm AIO, that currently cools a 5600x wont keep up with the x3d.
Of the games I own or have played, the heaviest on the CPU which cause me bottlenecks have been TLOU Part 1, Jedi Survivor, Plague Tale Requiem, Spider-Man with RT enabled, Need for Speed Unbound and RoboCop Rogue City in certain scenes. I have a regular 5800X and 4070 Super.
I have i9-10900k 3070 ti, i used to average 150 fps without dls on og warzone , but unfortunately in warzone 3 im averaging 120s, should i upgrade to 4070 ti or 4080 super?
Recently sold my 7900 XT to get a 4080 Super. Features on the Nvidia side is what made me switch, plus the fact that AMD cards struggle in DX9 games because of drivers.
@@Lynxique that all depends on how you look at it. For the same price you get a lot more AMD than Nvidia. Unless you buy a high end Nvidia then ray tracing is a no go on those also really. If youre looking at lower end gpus then AMD cater to the market much better. Nvidia is best high end.
It's funny that Nvidia change the name of their lineup from GTX to RTX because of "hardware RT" support, and yet you still need beefy CPU for "playable" RT rendering (without DLSS). This tells me that RTX cards or the built in hardware for RT functionality, is really of a RT "assist" because if it was full RT processing, you shouldn't need a decent CPU. Remember the MPEG 2 days, when you needed an addon card to play DVD, and you only needed a Pentium 200mmx to play DVD with the addon card. That's true hardware add on right there.
Really nice video, want to upgrade my 6950XT and I also have a 5800X3D. Im playing arena breakout infinite a lot and was thinking if I should upgrade platform or card 😊
The 5800 X3D paired with my RTX 4070 TI Super is perfect for the single player games with Ray Tracing and any UE5 title. My next upgrade won't be until I see the new GPUs from AMD since I try to alternate between the two manufacturers. ( Sorry Intel, You need to get your sh*t together )
I briefly had a 4070 with my 5600X a while ago and could barely notice anything in warzone / flight sim as I was so badly cpu limited in both. Maybe other titles will be different
Wow man, that would help me A LOT if you test it with the 5600X. I just bought a 4080 and already had a 5700X. Intend to build upnext weekend. I play AAA's (mostly Cyberpunk and Last of Us I) at 4K and UWQHD and I'm afraid 5700X can't keep up with the 4080 and DLSS ON (note when you were native 1440p and turned on DLSS the CPU usage gone from 40's% to 60+% and up to 70+% when toggled the FG on top of it). Would help me a lot to see the non X3D limits. Tks and keep up with the great work!
@@Walter_HWCrowd density above Medium in Cyberpunk is absolutely brutal for any CPU, I've got an rtx4090 and 5600x, maxed out with Path tracing, I get about 70-100 with frame gen enabled, with crowd density medium and 55-90 with crowd density high. This is in the most taxing areas in the city. I plan on upgrading when Zen 5 releases, hopefully a substantial gain over Zen 3.
@@00Clive00 tks for the feedback Clive. I'm about to start my build up today, don't know how long will it takes 'cause I'm very detail-oriented and usually take some days to get it fine tuned. 5600X along with 5700X were the best cost effective CPUs in 2023, mostly in higher resolutions builds. Without the frame gen, only DLSS on, what fps' range can you get with medium population density ?
Warzone is notorious for not fully changing graphics settings without a game restart. I would take those results with a grain of salt. Thanks for the review!
My 5800X3D and 4070 does very well at 1440P. I’ve been thinking about a 4080 or a 4080 Super but not sure if it would be worth it because i can already play everything i want..
I play Warzone 4K no FSR locked at 120Hz (Play on a 120Hz TV) and get 6ms GPU and 5ms CPU using an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and an Asus 7900XTX TUF GAMING OC on High/Medium settings.
Nice video. Have you tested the 1% lows and 0.1% lows? I upgraded my 5600x and 6700XT to a 5800X3d and a 7900XT hoping these numbers would improve in Warzone 3 but especially the 0.1% lows arent what I was hoping for.
There is a limit to number of frames will make a difference in nfps... im at the moment playing in icarus and playing at 40 - 50 fps no fps.. dose not make a different. 120 fps would do nothing to me if quality goes down.
I'm also rocking a RTX 4080/Ryzen 7 5800X3D and find this combo at 4K 120hrz to be great! Learned some useful tricks and I salute you David with your commentary and your real time tests. I'll be looking forward to the future Zen 5/Intel and the Nvidia/AMD to decide if I really need an upgrade later on. Thanks again for enlightening video.
Most people wont benefit from a jump of 160-240, not just because of skill issue, but also latency issues. I live far enough from servers that I get about 60 ping almost at all times, makes me want to make moves based on server locations lol
I have a TUF OC 4080 super running on i5-10400F lol, I don't think anyone can beat that for cpu bottleneck, gpu was an impulse buy, anyway, I grabbed a 4k, 144Hz, 1ms monitor. Using DLDSR 2.25x to 6k, most triple A single player games even with DLSS quality sees 99% GPU usage. I'm just too lazy to build another PC from scratch
Nice! I use 7800x3d with my RTX 4080 super. I also have a 2nd PC with i7 12700k which i use sometimes that shouldn't cause any issues with the gfx card
I have the 5800x3d paired with palits gaming pro oc 4080 super, Mega combo , But still have stutter when playing hogwarts legacy, i have read that even the guys usibg 4090's get stutter with this game , This has to be due to poor optimization right ?
Good video but missing a few details. General rule of thumb you check at 1080p first for CPU bottleneck. Lower the resolution the more the CPU works. Higher the resolution harder the GPU works. Also need to keep track of 1% lows as they will vary wildly and need to be documented. Lastly comparing CPU and GPU milliseconds really isn’t an indicator of much and even if the CPU is only showing 30% usage it can still be bottlenecking badly. Older Dual and Quad cores would show high usage but today’s modern 6 and 8 core CPU’s you don’t get the same usage due to so many more cores. Just a FYI even a 3080 bottlenecks a 5800X3D so keep that in mind. From what I’ve learned in the many decades of building PC’s is if a CPU came out in 2020 and you want to use a high end card 80/90 series then you need to wait 2-4 CPU generations to fully utilize the GPU as CPU’s and RAM have been the limiting factors for a very long time.
@@South_0f_Heaven_ i had 32gb ddr4 from my i7 7700 non k and msi b250 pc mate setup . so i reused it. alao ddr5 was hell expensive dueing 12th gen launch . i bought my i7 12700 non k + Asus tuf z690 plus wifi d4 at the cost of single i9 12900k .
@@CaptainScorpio24 again nothing wrong with your setup whatsoever. It’s a well planned out build and I understand the prices on DDR5. Stuck on AM4 myself unless I want to sell it all off and buy a 13th gen system I’m not interested in spending more money in my case to fully utilize my 3090 Ti which is woefully underutilized with AM4. Only improvement I could get is buy a 5950X but not paying $400 for an old GPU that a 12th gen destroys.
@@South_0f_Heaven_ yuh can buy i7 14700 non k with asus z790 strix or tuf ddr4 . . you can reuse ur ram sticks and cpu cooler bcz asus boards are the only boards that support both 1200 and 1700 cpu sockets . my i7 12700 is on same cooler master hyper 410r cpu cooler which i bought it in 2017 for 23 bucks or 1500 rupees
Hello i am going to buy a 4080super in a few days, is a 5800x is going to bottleneck quite a lot in 1440p (180hz) ? My ring (soon) : R7 5800X 32gb 3800mhz RTX 4080 Super
1080p is extremely overkill with the 4080 so should be fine. 7800x3d is better for lower resolutions since you'll be cpu bound in most cases. The gpu will be too fast and tax the cpu more pretty much
@@Skimzi I think it will be fine. Im thinking of same build. At 1080p overkill it will utilize CPU mostly at but it will get 60 fps minimum anyways. When games get more demanding, the 1080p will start utilizing your GPU now
Just a tip, don't use DLSS on this game, it makes almost no difference and at Ultra Performance it destroys visual fidelity especially at long distances and with distracting aliasing, at max use DLSS Quality because it might make the game sharper if you have filmic aliasing, but in terms of performance it's almost the same thing, specially at low settings where you are CPU limited anyway
Thank you! I currently use 5800x3D with ordinary RTX 4070 an I am trying to understand will the upgrade to RTX 4080 Super will be worthy. I am using 1440p / 144Hz monitor. Your video is really helpful. Thank you!
@@i3l4ckskillzz79 a 5800X3D is hardly enough for a 3080, 3080 Ti or 3090 Ti. I’ve had/have all except the 3080 Ti. What makes you thing the 5800X3D which wasn’t strong enough for high end 30 series will work any better on the 40 series? The 5800X3D is not some god tier CPU. Have both versions of it. A 7800X3D or better yet a 13700/13900 and 14700/14900 is better matched to a 4080. Sorry guys but the AM4 platform is dead and we are stuck with a limited amount of GPU’s that work well with it. Just because number says 300-400 FPS on the in game FPS counter that doesn’t give you the same story. Look at the 1% lows, 100 FPS less with frame times massively increased as the GPU is waiting on the CPU to catch up. PC building 101 here guys.
You do have a good point here. Although i cant say a 4070ti is a bad pairing for the 5800x3d. i have a 5800x3d and 4070ti and have noticed no issues in terms of fps and i play a wide variety of games. I guess the bottleneck only matters if your feeling stuttering.@@South_0f_Heaven_
10-15%. Is it worth it? Don't think so. I upgraded from 5600X to 5800X3D and even that did not make that much sense looking back. But from any older gen cpu? Huge difference.
Dude, I'm at 30 seconds into the video, and you already told the cops you are DUI?!? A 4080 is a 4K ultra settings card... stop doing stupid sheet with it!! LOL
I have a a 5800x3d and 4070ti super I get decent performance but my gpu usage I not very high like 60%to 80% in most games is there something wrong my my system 3200 cl18 ddr4 ram?
Excellent video. Really liked the game variety you had here, and just testing different settings. Has a nice Daniel Owen vibe, just not choked with UE5 titles
hey guys , so atm im on AM4 with 3060Ti and 3600x , been a while that im thinking about upgrading to 5800x3d "am5 is a little too much for me to upgrade" i wana know if i do that till what GPU will i be ok with this CPU upgrade? oh and im playing 1440p
Check out my previous video, where I benchmarked a 5800X3D with my old 3070, which isn’t a million miles off of a 3060ti, that’ll hopefully give you an idea.
@@davidnott_ ty so much mate I watched the previous video . So if I'm aiming to upgrade my gpu after cpu then going for am5 makes more sense 7800x3d i mean
@@mohammad-zabih it’s all a trade off no matter what you do! What I can tell you is the 5800X3D and 4080 super is a very nice combination. Sure, I probably could get more with a 7800X3D, but I don’t feel the need for it, it doesn’t feel lacking.
DLSS itself doesn’t add input lag Frame Generation adds input lag because AI generates fake frames in between the real frames DLSS itself just renders the game at a lower resolution and upscales it using tensor cores on RTX cards
A pc whether it's a $400 or $4000 pc will have a bottleneck. A gpu will bottleneck a cpu if the resolution goes high enough and the reverse is true, A cpu will bottleneck a gpu if the resolution is low enough. Try 8k and then try 720p, Anyone who doubts that will quickly see.
I'm confused why would this be the perfect Duo win the specs here of a 4080 super paired with a 5800 X3D has 16.5 % bottlenecked the ryzen 7 seems to be a bit weak for the GPU
@@JADC1111 I don't know man I'm just asking questions but what I can say from confidence and experience there is some truth to online bottleneck calculator I run multiple computers that I bring the lan parties and bottlenecking with your CPU is a factor games like baldur's gate 3 you could have a 4060 that can run higher frames because it's with a 12700 compared to 8700 even though the 8700 isn't bottlenecking the 4060 to much it's still there
@@Ziyoblader I always recommend mid afterburner or your gpus software to calculate % usage of gpu and cpu for the games you play. I’ve been screwed over by bottleneck calculators when I built my first. Never again
Average fps means nothing for smooth gaming experience 1% low fps and 0.1% low fps must be closer to average fps No CPU can do that without Windows tuning, Ram tuning and CPU tuning. I have 13700kf average fps are great but 0.1% low fps are terrible I tried many things nothing fixed my issue goes to my friends 7800x3d and 14900k . I would recommend clean boot windows and troubleshooting from there .
You don't have to "go with the times", you just don't drink the Kool-Aid as easily. We are yet to see if RT or PT can make something look noticeably better. Even if it could obviously be seen without guessing and side-by-side comparisons, then it would still look only different. The rest is marketing telling people that they should think it looks better. And enough of them is susceptible enough for this carousel to go around. I'm sure if this goes this way, finally there will be titles in the future that can actually show something that won't be able to be done similarly well in raster, because it would be too difficult and time-consuming, so no on would like to put in the effort. But in the end, these are just the same pixels on a screen. What color they have, due to what calculations are being done, is all that it is. And I personally would really like this to be game-changing. For now at least, it's not.
I have a 5800X3D undervolted and the FE 4080. I play on a 240hz 1440p monitor and feels butter smooth on every game. No need to upgrade until at least AM6
lol nah 7900XTX always beats out the 4080 S. 4080 S AIB only barely compete with the reference version of the 7900XTX. getting an AIB 7900XTX and enabling SAM with the 5800X3D is going to give you a massive performance gain over this combo. and no SAM and ReBAR are not used the same way ReBAR only gives you access to 256MB of memory where as SAM gives you access to the entire memory.
The 7900XTX is a poor card when it comes to Ray Tracing. So if you use RT then none of the AMD cards are worthwhile purchases. Also DLSS is a much better upscaler than FSR 2.
@@xbox360J You say blurry because you use FSR 2.0 on AMD cards which is pretty bad, nah tbh it is just crap upscaling, DLSS Quality looks better in so many games in 4K than native than 4K TAA. Try DLSS before you think it's it's blurry because it is actually really good. New games are simply not gonna play well in 4K even on a 4090, have you tried Alan Wake 2 yet in your glorious 4K native, it runs like crap on youur 7900XTX doesn't it? I don't get the whole I have to play every game in native 4K because a 7900xtx is not gonna play new AAA games at 4K well especially if you use modern lighting such as Ray Tracing and Path Tracing ,that cards is overpriced and mediocre with these settings. BTW I am using a 42 inch OLED so I can see good image quality.
@@paulsegrue5133 no man lmao I have yet to install my 7900xtx. I have a 3080 12gb and dlss is fuzzy. Like I said native is always the better way but if your on a 4k display your good. On 1440p and 1080p is bad.
Basically the same fps in warzone as mine 12700k+6900xt... well I would say for now it is about 20fps lower because I dont play at strictly minimum perf settings. And why do u run at the edge of the the map without anything, that is like an ocean view/sky view... dont do a Jufes, it is not realistic gameplay scenario.
I also have a 5800X3D and the RTX 4080 Super is heavily bottlenecked by this CPU even at 1440p in most games. Compared to a 7800X3D it loses around 20% FPS at that resolution on average.
Considering data shows we can't process an image in our head in any less than 13 milliseconds that makes 76 frames second for the majority of humans except for maybe a few exceptional ones. I am very hard pressed to tell the difference above 80 FPS myself.
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There will always be a bottleneck at some point. If you can get the frame rate you want a bottleneck isn't a negative thing that needs to be fixed. It's just how your system operates.
only cpu bottleck is bad cause it causes stuttering and horrible 1% lows
@@redexexile795you can still have a cpu bottleneck while having great 1% lows
@@prosecanlik4296 Indeed...I do not think its actually possible to have a CPU and a GPU to operate equally 100% together. One will always out perform the other due to influence by other components and windows settings.....
The point here is that at 1440p the bottleneck against a 7800X3D is huge (you're losing 20% frame rate pairing this GPU with 4080 Super). You could get the same frame rates and 1%'s using a RTX 4080 or even a 4070 Ti while saving hundreds of dollars (or euros in Europe). More than "if you can get the frame rate you want" the real statement is "Do you need to spend so much in this card when a much cheaper Vcard would perform exactly the same?".
I have a 5800X3d and a 4080 suprim x that is binned out of this world. It is PERFECT for 1440p, and I use it on triple 27=1080s for sim racing and it crushes that, and in VRChat and VR sim racing.
The X3D cache is smoking good for VR and simulator titles.
Why X3D cache is good for VR? VR games are not more GPU hungry?
@@paweradny7906I think it has something to do with being able to access the CPU cache faster than accessing RAM. I could be wrong though. I'm not educated in how PC hardware works. Just experience.
@@paweradny7906 well he talks about simracing, so he probably runs ACC. X3D is gapping everything on ACC
I'm about to buy a 4080. So did u recommend that combo with the 5800x3d?
I'm in the middle of moving to an RTX4080 Super / 5800x3D / B550 setup for the same reason - it is excellent for simulation titles.
Great video. i had an OG 4080 paired with 5800x3d for more than a year, super good combo.
Wh... what would you even replace that with??
@@colbyboucher6391 @Weecka2007 may have switched to a 7800x3d
@@colbyboucher6391 only answer is 4090 with 7800x3d
@@colbyboucher6391 I was thinking the same thing. Maybe he/she is doing more than just gaming with their rig.
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I have this exact combo. Currently replaying CP2077 on my 4k TV. Dlss auto + RT overdrive enabled, with G-sync it feels very nice even when dipping in intense areas. The area you are walking around in this video has barely any reflections and lighting, you won't notice a difference there. If you go to area's like Megabuilding (v's first safehouse), Afterlife club or Japan town you will really see the difference. the ray tracing in cyberpunk really helps with immersion and with the overall ambience of the world.
You got sub 60 fps on that areas?
I would like to see the 5600x test results. You should try path tracing as well.
If you have a choice, ALWAYS be gpu bottleneck. GPU bottleneck gives lower frames. CPU bottleneck gives stutters.
Agreed. plus it is far easier to control the performance of the graphics than it is to reduce the CPU load on most titles these days.
but how does one know if they have a CPU bottleneck? In this video the CPU was only half utilized.
@@blakey_wakeyNormally games won't use the whole CPU due to how their engines are designed. So in this case, even though the CPU doesn't say 100% utilization, it doesn't mean it can handle more FPS.
@@Absol407 100% cpu usage will cause stutters
@@blakey_wakey 1% and 0.1% lows being way under your average FPS (like barely if not even less than half)
I don't think even my 4090 is bottlenecked by a 5800x3d because I play mostly single player games and any bottleneck just allows me to turn the graphics settings up higher so that I'm always around 150-170hz with a 170 hz monitor with everything maxxed out.
The 5800X3D seems to suit my 4070 very well at 1080p. I can play Cyberpunk with my monitor maxed out using HW Unboxed's recommended RT settings. Such a beautiful looking game even at medium textures
Ordinary 4070 is the best choice now for 1080p. Enjoy :)
Awesome! Enjoy!
At 1080p it isn't even noticeable if textures are at low or max. The low res blurs everything
@@RostislavLevshov god no its not at all lmfao. its literally a 3080 basically which can still play 1440p fine. Buying it for 1080p is literally useless
@lilpain1997 you're right, I should get the 4070 Super 😉
Got my 4080 Super FE direct from Nvidia last week to pair with my 5800x3d and I'm loving it!!
Nice! You did well to get one, I heard stock levels weren’t great
I appreciate this video man! I have been using a Ryzen 5 5500+6800xt for over a year now. I want a 5800x3d since I need to remove the 15%ish bottleneck and squeeze that GPU. Honestly, it is as good as it gets for a 1440p 144hz monitor, I'm usually at 90-120 frames in AAA games and over 120 at FPS. Then hopefully sell my red devil 6800xt and get a 7900xtx big papa. Already got a Segotep GM850 PSU+ x570s Aorus Elite ax + 3tb nvme + 32 gb 3600mhz cl16. That PSU should be enough? PCpartpicker estimate wattage is 629 all including fans, aio, etc.
You’re fine with 850 watts. However, I never heard of the brand Segotep. Make sure there are at least 50 amps on the 12v rail and go for a reputable power supply brand with gold certification
@@rnapol3266def will check if 12v rail has 50 amps.
Segotep GM850W cost me around $130, its gold certification and ranks B in the CPU cultist list (midrange).
Thats all I know so far. Altough it has quite a market here where I live, for some reason.
@@XxMamba24xX you paid top dollar for 5800x3d and 6800xt … it should be fine, but i would go with a brand like corsair.. they go for easily 150-250 (canadian $). Segotep will work, but it might not deliver consistent and constant power output, it could fluctuate, which isnt ideal. Up to you but never save money on the power supply. My 2 canadian cents
Hi, I’ve got the 5800x with the 6800xt Red Devil at the minute, was the 5800x3d a worthwhile upgrade? Can get one for £200 new so a lot better than a 7800xt plus new board and ram. Running 32gb 3600 cl16 ram and an ASUs strix x570-e so everything fairly similar to yours. Agree with the advice on a quality psu though, cheap ones can cause huge issues
I knew this voice from your FS channel. I'm curious if you had to upgrade your PSU when you swapped all your parts? I'm probably going to get the 5800X3D as well as the 4080 super also. I only have a 650watt PSU, so I'm probably going to have to go for a 850watt minimum. The payware aircraft I've purchased have really slowed my system down (AMD 3600X and MSI 2060 Super). Thanks for sharing your findings.
I ended up fitting a Corsair rm850e as I wanted a native 12vhpwr connector as the nvidia provided splitter was too big and wouldn’t let my side panel close
@@davidnott_ I already had a slightly used ASUS Strix 850 power supply but it lacks the connector. I recently bought an RTX4080 Super (with a 5800x3D coming tomorrow) and like you was dismayed at the bulkiness of the 3 to 1 connector. But in my case (pun not intended) it all closed without any problems. This was also the first time I used an extra physical GPU support since that RTx4080 Super is enormous and extremely heavy for a GPU (I have the ASUS Tuf version). I am using this machine for flight and race simulation since these components shine in such circumstances.
Thank you for a great video, especially with the preceding video "5600X vs 5800X3D - Was Upgrading Worth It?" Highly appreciated if you do a video on swapping back to 5600x.
I am in a similar situation, having upgraded from a 2080Ti to 4080 Super and swapped 5600x for 5800x3d. But just swapped back again and made some short and fast "not so scientific measurements".
I run 1440p ultrawide.
In MS Flight Sim (from LaGuardia airport over NYCity from the north) with TAA and frame generation, rendering at 150% resolution and then downscaling to native I get a super sharp image (with DLSS it gets blurry). It gave me approx 70fps (~20% improvement over 5600x). But it also gave me 60fps in the 1%low, which is a massive improvement over 5600x. Tried some other settings, and the gold is in the 1% and 0.1% low. But having that said, MSFS is playable with both cpu's.
Another not so optimized (alpha) game, Star Citizen, did not at all show these gains.
Red Dead Redemption gave massive improvements (TTA High) while God of War and Battlefield 1 (both in ultra and native resolution) is very close even though 5800x3d still has better lows. But all of the 3 games run just fine regardless of cpu.
Is it worth the upgrade? Gennerally yes, but it depends on the use case and I am still not sure... Would love to see your results!
Im in the exact same shoes here. I got a 4080 with an 1440p ultrawide and I want to get a 5800x3d now.
My only conceirn is, that my 240mm AIO, that currently cools a 5600x wont keep up with the x3d.
Of the games I own or have played, the heaviest on the CPU which cause me bottlenecks have been TLOU Part 1, Jedi Survivor, Plague Tale Requiem, Spider-Man with RT enabled, Need for Speed Unbound and RoboCop Rogue City in certain scenes. I have a regular 5800X and 4070 Super.
At this point, this thing should be destroying 4k considering the cost
I have i9-10900k 3070 ti, i used to average 150 fps without dls on og warzone , but unfortunately in warzone 3 im averaging 120s, should i upgrade to 4070 ti or 4080 super?
Overclock that bish to 5.0ghz or upgrade the cpu to 12th generation or 13th which ever you can afford
Dude I have a 5600x and 4070 dual, I used to get like 170 fps on wz3. After some updates i barely get over 120.
Wanted a 4080 super but here in the u.s some 7900 xt’s have been at $670 so I might go amd.
Yeah AMDs pricing is quite aggressive. For me, i make use of a lot of nvidias proprietary features so im sorta locked in
Recently sold my 7900 XT to get a 4080 Super. Features on the Nvidia side is what made me switch, plus the fact that AMD cards struggle in DX9 games because of drivers.
@@drmenjoyer1 same... nvidia is superior to amd... amd has only rasterization performance that's it
@@Lynxique that all depends on how you look at it. For the same price you get a lot more AMD than Nvidia. Unless you buy a high end Nvidia then ray tracing is a no go on those also really. If youre looking at lower end gpus then AMD cater to the market much better. Nvidia is best high end.
@@Lynxique Yup, found that out the hard way. 7900 XT for $800 was one of my worst purchases.
So would this be a good combo for someone still on am4 wanting to upgrade cpu and gpu?
It's funny that Nvidia change the name of their lineup from GTX to RTX because of "hardware RT" support, and yet you still need beefy CPU for "playable" RT rendering (without DLSS). This tells me that RTX cards or the built in hardware for RT functionality, is really of a RT "assist" because if it was full RT processing, you shouldn't need a decent CPU. Remember the MPEG 2 days, when you needed an addon card to play DVD, and you only needed a Pentium 200mmx to play DVD with the addon card. That's true hardware add on right there.
Use this combo for vr racing. Great combo
Really nice video, want to upgrade my 6950XT and I also have a 5800X3D. Im playing arena breakout infinite a lot and was thinking if I should upgrade platform or card 😊
The 5800 X3D paired with my RTX 4070 TI Super is perfect for the single player games with Ray Tracing and any UE5 title.
My next upgrade won't be until I see the new GPUs from AMD since I try to alternate between the two manufacturers. ( Sorry Intel, You need to get your sh*t together )
Same exact setup! I have 32 gb off DDR4 3200mhz speed, thermal right phantom spirit cooling fan, and seasonic vertex gx1000 psu
Great video! and yes I'm looking forward to how 5600x fare with 4080 super, especially on 1440p
I briefly had a 4070 with my 5600X a while ago and could barely notice anything in warzone / flight sim as I was so badly cpu limited in both. Maybe other titles will be different
the 5600x will STRUGGLE.
Wow man, that would help me A LOT if you test it with the 5600X. I just bought a 4080 and already had a 5700X. Intend to build upnext weekend. I play AAA's (mostly Cyberpunk and Last of Us I) at 4K and UWQHD and I'm afraid 5700X can't keep up with the 4080 and DLSS ON (note when you were native 1440p and turned on DLSS the CPU usage gone from 40's% to 60+% and up to 70+% when toggled the FG on top of it).
Would help me a lot to see the non X3D limits. Tks and keep up with the great work!
@@Walter_HWCrowd density above Medium in Cyberpunk is absolutely brutal for any CPU, I've got an rtx4090 and 5600x, maxed out with Path tracing, I get about 70-100 with frame gen enabled, with crowd density medium and 55-90 with crowd density high. This is in the most taxing areas in the city.
I plan on upgrading when Zen 5 releases, hopefully a substantial gain over Zen 3.
@@00Clive00 tks for the feedback Clive. I'm about to start my build up today, don't know how long will it takes 'cause I'm very detail-oriented and usually take some days to get it fine tuned. 5600X along with 5700X were the best cost effective CPUs in 2023, mostly in higher resolutions builds.
Without the frame gen, only DLSS on, what fps' range can you get with medium population density ?
What programme are you using to display cpu time in ms?
In warzone? That’s the built in stats within warzone that you can display
Warzone is notorious for not fully changing graphics settings without a game restart. I would take those results with a grain of salt. Thanks for the review!
My 5800X3D and 4070 does very well at 1440P. I’ve been thinking about a 4080 or a 4080 Super but not sure if it would be worth it because i can already play everything i want..
Not worth it
That would be a silly upgrade i would go 4070 to 5070 when its released.
I would wait for 5070 or 5080, and maybe Zen 5/9000 series
Puede hacer la comparación 5600x vs 5800x3d con la rtx 4080....
Gracias saludos y éxitos!!
For cyberpunk lower crowd density, it uses way too much resources. It would ramp up your gpu usage to 100%.
bro the hero wars ads are wild
I play Warzone 4K no FSR locked at 120Hz (Play on a 120Hz TV) and get 6ms GPU and 5ms CPU using an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and an Asus 7900XTX TUF GAMING OC on High/Medium settings.
I don't get your numbers. I have a 5700x3d and a 7900xt. I play on fsr native and I get about 400fps in 1440p??
Nice video. Have you tested the 1% lows and 0.1% lows? I upgraded my 5600x and 6700XT to a 5800X3d and a 7900XT hoping these numbers would improve in Warzone 3 but especially the 0.1% lows arent what I was hoping for.
There is a limit to number of frames will make a difference in nfps... im at the moment playing in icarus and playing at 40 - 50 fps no fps.. dose not make a different. 120 fps would do nothing to me if quality goes down.
i have a 5800x3d and planning to buy 4080 super proart for my 1080p 360hz monitor. is it fine?
I'm also rocking a RTX 4080/Ryzen 7 5800X3D and find this combo at 4K 120hrz to be great! Learned some useful tricks and I salute you David with your commentary and your real time tests. I'll be looking forward to the future Zen 5/Intel and the Nvidia/AMD to decide if I really need an upgrade later on. Thanks again for enlightening video.
Thanks for watching, appreciate it!
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@@GrainGrown thanks teach
My friend build my PC 3 Months ago 5800X3D & 7800 XT HellHound so happy with it on Warzone 200-250 fps on 1440p : )
Nice!
Most people wont benefit from a jump of 160-240, not just because of skill issue, but also latency issues. I live far enough from servers that I get about 60 ping almost at all times, makes me want to make moves based on server locations lol
Do what must be done 🫡
Bro, this is the video I was looking for and it is the combination I want, do another benchmark in 2k with all the settings, please.
I have a TUF OC 4080 super running on i5-10400F lol, I don't think anyone can beat that for cpu bottleneck, gpu was an impulse buy, anyway, I grabbed a 4k, 144Hz, 1ms monitor. Using DLDSR 2.25x to 6k, most triple A single player games even with DLSS quality sees 99% GPU usage. I'm just too lazy to build another PC from scratch
Nice! I use 7800x3d with my RTX 4080 super. I also have a 2nd PC with i7 12700k which i use sometimes that shouldn't cause any issues with the gfx card
You WANT to be slightly GPU limited. You don't want to be CPU limited at all, if possible. Just to avoid stuttering/hitching.
What are you using to capture gpu and CPU time?
The thing in the top middle? Its msi afterburner
I have the 5800x3d paired with palits gaming pro oc 4080 super,
Mega combo ,
But still have stutter when playing hogwarts legacy, i have read that even the guys usibg 4090's get stutter with this game ,
This has to be due to poor optimization right ?
Yes, 7800x3d and 14900k folks get occasional stuttering too.
Good video but missing a few details.
General rule of thumb you check at 1080p first for CPU bottleneck. Lower the resolution the more the CPU works. Higher the resolution harder the GPU works.
Also need to keep track of 1% lows as they will vary wildly and need to be documented.
Lastly comparing CPU and GPU milliseconds really isn’t an indicator of much and even if the CPU is only showing 30% usage it can still be bottlenecking badly. Older Dual and Quad cores would show high usage but today’s modern 6 and 8 core CPU’s you don’t get the same usage due to so many more cores.
Just a FYI even a 3080 bottlenecks a 5800X3D so keep that in mind.
From what I’ve learned in the many decades of building PC’s is if a CPU came out in 2020 and you want to use a high end card 80/90 series then you need to wait 2-4 CPU generations to fully utilize the GPU as CPU’s and RAM have been the limiting factors for a very long time.
hows my i7 12700 , 32gb ddr4 vengeance and rtx 4070 ti super gigabyte eagle oc. i hv 1440p 27inch 144hz display
@@CaptainScorpio24 Good combo but would work better with DDR5. Otherwise a solid build depending on what latency, speed and timings the RAM are.
@@South_0f_Heaven_ i had 32gb ddr4 from my i7 7700 non k and msi b250 pc mate setup . so i reused it. alao ddr5 was hell expensive dueing 12th gen launch .
i bought my i7 12700 non k + Asus tuf z690 plus wifi d4 at the cost of single i9 12900k .
@@CaptainScorpio24 again nothing wrong with your setup whatsoever. It’s a well planned out build and I understand the prices on DDR5.
Stuck on AM4 myself unless I want to sell it all off and buy a 13th gen system I’m not interested in spending more money in my case to fully utilize my 3090 Ti which is woefully underutilized with AM4. Only improvement I could get is buy a 5950X but not paying $400 for an old GPU that a 12th gen destroys.
@@South_0f_Heaven_ yuh can buy i7 14700 non k with asus z790 strix or tuf ddr4 . . you can reuse ur ram sticks and cpu cooler bcz asus boards are the only boards that support both 1200 and 1700 cpu sockets .
my i7 12700 is on same cooler master hyper 410r cpu cooler which i bought it in 2017 for 23 bucks or 1500 rupees
Hello i am going to buy a 4080super in a few days, is a 5800x is going to bottleneck quite a lot in 1440p (180hz) ?
My ring (soon) :
R7 5800X
32gb 3800mhz
RTX 4080 Super
Maybe give this a watch. Not a 5800x, but kinda close as it’s a 5600x - hope it helps
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@@davidnott_ Mhh doesn't seems that bad i can tank it for 2months and then buy a 7800X3D DDR5 Combo i guess
So for 1080p and 1440p the 5800x3d and 4080 Super are a good combo? I ask as my mate is on 1080p with a 4080 super and im on 1440p
1080p is extremely overkill with the 4080 so should be fine. 7800x3d is better for lower resolutions since you'll be cpu bound in most cases. The gpu will be too fast and tax the cpu more pretty much
@Cloudypoo can't buy AM5 rn so the 5800x3d will have to do
@@Skimzi I think it will be fine. Im thinking of same build. At 1080p overkill it will utilize CPU mostly at but it will get 60 fps minimum anyways. When games get more demanding, the 1080p will start utilizing your GPU now
All depends on resolution i play at 4k on 4090 with 5800X and its usually gpu bottlenecking.
I'm used to being Max settings and playing at 200 HZ with 3090 TI.? 1440p...
Just updated my CPU to the 5800X3D and was wondering if this was a good combo, thank you!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching 👍
Just a tip, don't use DLSS on this game, it makes almost no difference and at Ultra Performance it destroys visual fidelity especially at long distances and with distracting aliasing, at max use DLSS Quality because it might make the game sharper if you have filmic aliasing, but in terms of performance it's almost the same thing, specially at low settings where you are CPU limited anyway
Do you know which 4080 super gigabyte version it is.
What’s the fps like in Warzone on 4k low settings?
Thank you! I currently use 5800x3D with ordinary RTX 4070 an I am trying to understand will the upgrade to RTX 4080 Super will be worthy. I am using 1440p / 144Hz monitor. Your video is really helpful. Thank you!
You’re welcome, thanks for watching 👍
Don’t bother with a new GPU. Get a better CPU and DDR5, will see some real results.
No the 5800x3D is more than enough for that gpu. A gpu upgrade would be much more noticeable but I wouldn't upgrade from a 4070 to a 4080.
@@i3l4ckskillzz79 a 5800X3D is hardly enough for a 3080, 3080 Ti or 3090 Ti.
I’ve had/have all except the 3080 Ti.
What makes you thing the 5800X3D which wasn’t strong enough for high end 30 series will work any better on the 40 series?
The 5800X3D is not some god tier CPU. Have both versions of it.
A 7800X3D or better yet a 13700/13900 and 14700/14900 is better matched to a 4080.
Sorry guys but the AM4 platform is dead and we are stuck with a limited amount of GPU’s that work well with it. Just because number says 300-400 FPS on the in game FPS counter that doesn’t give you the same story. Look at the 1% lows, 100 FPS less with frame times massively increased as the GPU is waiting on the CPU to catch up.
PC building 101 here guys.
You do have a good point here. Although i cant say a 4070ti is a bad pairing for the 5800x3d. i have a 5800x3d and 4070ti and have noticed no issues in terms of fps and i play a wide variety of games. I guess the bottleneck only matters if your feeling stuttering.@@South_0f_Heaven_
Thanks for this. I have a 5800x3d with a 3060TI and have been looking to upgrade my GPU. I think this is a good card for my setup.
Get a 4070 super. It will be the perfect combo for you
@@Ladioz Thank you i will look at the 4070 super. i really dont play newer games so, i have been fine.
@@boxerdog5979 4070 Super or 7800XT are the best price/performance GPUs to pair with the 5800X3D. (my opinion)
@@boxerdog5979you dont even need to upgrade anything
I run a 4090 with this cpu and its awesome
You see he should’ve had behind the crate on your first kill….
dang how does my old 6800 on high settings 1440p get the same fps as a card double the price
Think it does a little. I have 5800x3d with 4070TI and in some games CPU is limited and in some games GPU is limit. But I play at 1440P.
Yeah but does it really matter when your still getting stupid high FPS in both CPU and GPU limiting scenarios
RX 6950 xt with i9 10850k is any bottleneck at 1440p ?
No that is a decent balance of a rig 10850k will lightly bottleneck maybe in few areas but nothing worth mentioning dude
I have a 5700x and 3080 combo. I am playing with the idea of buying 5800x3D. I wonder how much gain I will get on PUBG 1440p.
10-15%. Is it worth it? Don't think so. I upgraded from 5600X to 5800X3D and even that did not make that much sense looking back. But from any older gen cpu? Huge difference.
@@n4m3l3ss0n31 actually I am building a 2nd rig, the 5700x will go there.
Msi afterburner?
Whats your average TDP?
a under volt graphics card works great om 5800x3d
Dude, I'm at 30 seconds into the video, and you already told the cops you are DUI?!?
A 4080 is a 4K ultra settings card... stop doing stupid sheet with it!! LOL
I have a a 5800x3d and 4070ti super I get decent performance but my gpu usage I not very high like 60%to 80% in most games is there something wrong my my system 3200 cl18 ddr4 ram?
What resolution do you play at?
BC 1080p go on 1440p ör somethi g
Excellent video. Really liked the game variety you had here, and just testing different settings. Has a nice Daniel Owen vibe, just not choked with UE5 titles
High praise! Thanks 🙏
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hey guys , so atm im on AM4 with 3060Ti and 3600x , been a while that im thinking about upgrading to 5800x3d "am5 is a little too much for me to upgrade" i wana know if i do that till what GPU will i be ok with this CPU upgrade? oh and im playing 1440p
Check out my previous video, where I benchmarked a 5800X3D with my old 3070, which isn’t a million miles off of a 3060ti, that’ll hopefully give you an idea.
@@davidnott_ ty so much mate I watched the previous video . So if I'm aiming to upgrade my gpu after cpu then going for am5 makes more sense 7800x3d i mean
@@mohammad-zabih AM5 will also give you an upgrade path beyond the 7800X3D. All depends on how much you’re comfortable with spending I guess
@@davidnott_ true thanks a lot mate for helping me decide the right move
@@mohammad-zabih it’s all a trade off no matter what you do! What I can tell you is the 5800X3D and 4080 super is a very nice combination. Sure, I probably could get more with a 7800X3D, but I don’t feel the need for it, it doesn’t feel lacking.
Please do the 5600x+4080 super video.
Why are you using DLSS for a competitive shooter ? It adds input lag..
Frame gen adds input lag not upscaling
DLSS itself doesn’t add input lag
Frame Generation adds input lag because AI generates fake frames in between the real frames
DLSS itself just renders the game at a lower resolution and upscales it using tensor cores on RTX cards
A pc whether it's a $400 or $4000 pc will have a bottleneck. A gpu will bottleneck a cpu if the resolution goes high enough and the reverse is true, A cpu will bottleneck a gpu if the resolution is low enough. Try 8k and then try 720p, Anyone who doubts that will quickly see.
I'm confused why would this be the perfect Duo win the specs here of a 4080 super paired with a 5800 X3D has 16.5 % bottlenecked the ryzen 7 seems to be a bit weak for the GPU
Where’d you get that info? Please don’t tell me an online bottleneck calculator, especially not userbenchmark
@@JADC1111 I don't know man I'm just asking questions but what I can say from confidence and experience there is some truth to online bottleneck calculator I run multiple computers that I bring the lan parties and bottlenecking with your CPU is a factor games like baldur's gate 3 you could have a 4060 that can run higher frames because it's with a 12700 compared to 8700 even though the 8700 isn't bottlenecking the 4060 to much it's still there
@@Ziyoblader I always recommend mid afterburner or your gpus software to calculate % usage of gpu and cpu for the games you play. I’ve been screwed over by bottleneck calculators when I built my first. Never again
Average fps means nothing for smooth gaming experience 1% low fps and 0.1% low fps must be closer to average fps No CPU can do that without Windows tuning, Ram tuning and CPU tuning. I have 13700kf average fps are great but 0.1% low fps are terrible I tried many things nothing fixed my issue goes to my friends 7800x3d and 14900k . I would recommend clean boot windows and troubleshooting from there .
You don't have to "go with the times", you just don't drink the Kool-Aid as easily. We are yet to see if RT or PT can make something look noticeably better. Even if it could obviously be seen without guessing and side-by-side comparisons, then it would still look only different. The rest is marketing telling people that they should think it looks better. And enough of them is susceptible enough for this carousel to go around. I'm sure if this goes this way, finally there will be titles in the future that can actually show something that won't be able to be done similarly well in raster, because it would be too difficult and time-consuming, so no on would like to put in the effort. But in the end, these are just the same pixels on a screen. What color they have, due to what calculations are being done, is all that it is. And I personally would really like this to be game-changing. For now at least, it's not.
Merhaba 5950x işlemci sahibim 4080 asus rog grafik kartına sahibim darboğaz olur mu 5800x3d geçmek mantıklı mı
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Approximately the same fps in warzone, 1440p extreme settings, I get them with 14700k and 4070 super. It clearly drags your processor down.
Just render at a higher resolution
Your cpu throttles, next time enable cpu temperature.
It runs decent with the 4080 runs better with the 7900xtx tho 👍
I have a 4090 with a 5800X3D.
does a 5600x bottleneck a 3080?
no.
@@lonely2768 It actually did in 1080p. When I transitioned to 3440x1440 it didn't anymore.
I have a 5800X3D undervolted and the FE 4080. I play on a 240hz 1440p monitor and feels butter smooth on every game.
No need to upgrade until at least AM6
You make a good point!
Are you doing the offset workaround or is there a way to actually to limit the voltage/mhz ceiling? Cant seem to find a way for my 5700x3d.
@@rockjianrock I ve got a Rog Crosshair VIII Dark Hero and I can find these options in the bios
damn son i guess its a real motherboard BIOS thing.
Benchmark the 5600 for science !!!
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4070ti is best for 1440p, 4080+ is for 4k.
I have the Ryzen 7 5800x3d and the RTX 4080 . no bottleneck on my pc for COD 300 FPS @1440p cpu 1% gpu 99%
lol nah 7900XTX always beats out the 4080 S. 4080 S AIB only barely compete with the reference version of the 7900XTX. getting an AIB 7900XTX and enabling SAM with the 5800X3D is going to give you a massive performance gain over this combo. and no SAM and ReBAR are not used the same way ReBAR only gives you access to 256MB of memory where as SAM gives you access to the entire memory.
both cards are power houses regardless with ro with out RT
The 7900XTX is a poor card when it comes to Ray Tracing. So if you use RT then none of the AMD cards are worthwhile purchases. Also DLSS is a much better upscaler than FSR 2.
@@paulsegrue5133 any up scaling methods are useless lol who wants a blurry and fuzzy image unless your playing on a 4k display 🤣🤣
@@xbox360J You say blurry because you use FSR 2.0 on AMD cards which is pretty bad, nah tbh it is just crap upscaling, DLSS Quality looks better in so many games in 4K than native than 4K TAA. Try DLSS before you think it's it's blurry because it is actually really good. New games are simply not gonna play well in 4K even on a 4090, have you tried Alan Wake 2 yet in your glorious 4K native, it runs like crap on youur 7900XTX doesn't it?
I don't get the whole I have to play every game in native 4K because a 7900xtx is not gonna play new AAA games at 4K well especially if you use modern lighting such as Ray Tracing and Path Tracing ,that cards is overpriced and mediocre with these settings.
BTW I am using a 42 inch OLED so I can see good image quality.
@@paulsegrue5133 no man lmao I have yet to install my 7900xtx. I have a 3080 12gb and dlss is fuzzy. Like I said native is always the better way but if your on a 4k display your good. On 1440p and 1080p is bad.
Basically the same fps in warzone as mine 12700k+6900xt... well I would say for now it is about 20fps lower because I dont play at strictly minimum perf settings. And why do u run at the edge of the the map without anything, that is like an ocean view/sky view... dont do a Jufes, it is not realistic gameplay scenario.
Yeah you better destroy "1440p" with 1000$ + gpu .
I'd personally go with the XTX on sales at around 900
i use it for 3440X1440 gaming & ue5 software
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So rude to shoot me while doing important benchmarking work 😂
@@davidnott_ yea🤣🤣
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I also have a 5800X3D and the RTX 4080 Super is heavily bottlenecked by this CPU even at 1440p in most games. Compared to a 7800X3D it loses around 20% FPS at that resolution on average.
30fps does not prove how valuable dls is it proves how lacking this overpriced the 4080 super is. Really 1440p 30fps without dls
Anyone have any experience with the 5800x? The non 3d.
Yes, been using it for years with a 6800xt.
@@paalosordoni7932 yeah it’s what I’m using had it awhile just wondering if it’s still good enough for a 40 series. Maybe even a 4080/4090
Considering data shows we can't process an image in our head in any less than 13 milliseconds that makes 76 frames second for the majority of humans except for maybe a few exceptional ones. I am very hard pressed to tell the difference above 80 FPS myself.
No.
lol, no.
I upgraded to latest and greatest for years!!.now i dont care online gaming which i loved met friends ect over the years.now its kids cheating using china cheats.doesnt make me care anymore.its sad
i think nvidia buyers is brain Bottleneck :)
Yes. No need to watch the video.
Ur cpu limited