John I agree ! But Elmo is picky about his sound. That’s why I look to his videos. He is opinionated. I will agree. And Elmo is a metal player trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear (Nextone into a Marshall, Randall, Mesa Boogie) ..... I think this amp would sound good with Pops Staples; The Staples Singers, CCR, Al Green, Ry Cooder, Bonnie Raitt.
@@andrewwheelerguitar Thanks for acknowledging me!! At least my ear is on the right track! I respect Elmo. But he was really disappointed with this amp. I know it looks like a Marshall JTM 45. But it’s not. My Peavey blue stripe bandit is more like that. I used to think there were 2 types of amps in the world: “ clock radios “ or Marshalls. No, it’s like girlfriends; there’s ALL types. Anyhow in my mind, the Nextone Stage is patterned after a fender. A champ or a Princeton maybe? I broke down 2 weeks ago and bought one to play at church and jam at people’s houses and hopefully house parties and coffee houses. It’ll get SRV( little wing) , Kenny Burrell, Hubert sumlin, Toy Caldwell, Pops Staples, John Fogerty sounds for days. You’re not going to do metal with this amp. I bought it because it was relatively light (29 lbs) , reliable to gig with, and rounded distortion. Just like Waddy Watchel playing behind Linda Ronstadt ( tumbling dice). I wanted an amp that would give me some dirt, but I wouldn’t bury the female vocals. These amps are not for everyone. They are not moving at guitar centers around Chicago. But not everyone wants an amp that goes from Fender cleans to medium dirt. But it works for me.
I’ve stopped listening to Anderson’s ... their review on katana versus fender champion 50XL was a farce . I ended up buying both and there is no comparison! The katana is better in every single way
Blues player here: I found the Nextone to be very close to the Blues Cube in terms of the overall tone. The Katana does not have the tone the Nextone does and I do like the Nextone better. That said, the Nextone is more than double the price and quite close in new price to a Marshall DSL which I consider to be the superior amp in this range. The advantages of the Nextone is that it is light and small (which the Katana also is) and it should be quite reliable (which the Katana also is). So, I tend to agree that, at this price point, there are better options - or sacrifice a little tone and get a Katana.
@ken Dickinson Yes good assessment. I had all three. Kat bang for buck good do it all amp but lacks inspirational tone, Blues Cube Artist great feel but tone not to everyone's taste. But only amp I have gigged for three years. Then the Nextone which had some great features but I could not get the drive channel right. In the end decided that the other two fitted my needs better so sent it back. However kind regret that because on 6l6 mode and just using as a clean pedal platform then it might have been better for me....
I purchased at a good price my Nextstone Stage to practice in apartment. I am playing an old 84' Strat for clean and blues stuff and even at bedroom volume, i really hear a different feeling between the four modes, specially with overdrive pedals. I also own a Fender HotRod dlx + power attenuator and it's unusable in apartment : neighbors are saying it sounds "sh.t" ;-) Sounds good for me, without metal shredding. Thanks a lot for your demos :-)
It's all a matter of opinion. Shane from the "in the blues" channel says that this amp is better than a peavey bandit red stripe. And many of us LOVE the peavey bandit! (unlike Elmo and that's fine!). No amp will fully satisfy all players. Ever. Period. Compare the playing style of Elmo and Shane and you can see why one really likes the amp, and the other dislikes the amp. Its all simple without getting caught up in the knuckle dragging "this sucks" camp. The tones of the nextone are for those who enjoy that vintage surf rock, jangle rockabilly and high or low gain blues tones! If you want a high gain metal amp there are no doubt far better options. I found this amp for 300 euros with the pedal in mint condition and i am totally stoked! Got no time (or cash) for tubes!
Good for you 😊 You make some good points. Although to be honest, I'd rather get a Harley Benton Tube15 for not much more, which is VERY nice. And just to clear up where I come from, I like a Plexi, which isn't high gain at all. But you're right. It's all subjective 😊
@@MrPolevaulter Hmm.. Your comment puts some gradients of gray into my black and white logic on this tone issue.. I would have guessed that you'd loathe a plexi! Ahh yes.. i was considering the sweet tube15, but went with the nextone stage to avoid tube hassle and because this was a purchase for a home low volume/late night amp. If my infatuation with the nextone fizzles out after the honeymoon period, i will flip it for the tube15! But so far i am very pleased and like it more than the roland jc40, peavey bandit and the many valvestates i had before it. Only time will tell now my friend!
I respect your opinion, Elmo, and I would agree that the amp is not necessarily a good choice for shredding or highly rectified sounds without a pedal. However, it's a great sounding amp in the classic style, and you would be hard-pressed to tell the difference between it and the tube amps it emulates. It's clear that your musical talents are more on the metal side, but you can tell from other demos that the amp does in fact sound great for classic rock and Blues. As I said, I agree the amp isn't made for high-gain rectified sound and blistering scales. It's made for the more challenging classic rock and blues and the ability to make the guitar sing without having to rely on Self indulgent speed
I think you might have misunderstood what I'm about. I'v found plenty of amps that can do bluesy stuff, and this can't do it with that speaker. With a better speaker it sounds OK. A good amp can do both though.
I disagree, the classic blues/crunch thing this amp wants to do sounds much better on a similarly priced fender or vox amp. Go watch another review if you don't want the shredder type guitarrist. The comparison they did at that pedal show with the ac15 might be more your alley
@@MrPolevaulter , you are a damn fine guitar player and you do excellent reviews. I'm glad that I subscribed to your video channel. But I still like the next nextone. LOL
Refreshing to see an honest review - I tried the larger version (nextone special 80w) of this amp and thought it sounded good -but- wayyy overpriced @ $900 usd
I had very bad service from my music store so should give a negative report. BUT Been playing for 30 years. What I don't like is tube volume making small venues turned into mud on stage. Nextone gives crunch and drive at lower volumes with pick attack skills. So your review to me was more about your skill set and lack of concern for other band members and the sound guy. there are differences between the four value settings and if you can't use them or won't use them then get a different amp for shredding. The four tube technology amps permit greater variety for other things than shredding. The variety I believe is its purpose for a clean and crunch combo for a gig and with volume knob control skills the crunch sweetens up without losing much volume adding dynamics other than shredding and no tube matainence to worry about and lighter to carry.
Yep, my thoughts about the amp also. The speaker will improve its sound when broken in. The cabinet could probably be improved as it’s most likely composite board; switching to solid pine always improves the sound compared to that stuff. Sitting with a Stage yesterday showed the tube-type setting affected feel and headroom at low volume. For gain at volume they’re likely to affect low-end and sparkle in addition if they behave like the real tubes do. Those are the same things I see from my 6V6, 6L6 and EL-84 amps. These are intriguing amps and worth investigating.
Yea, whatever. On my laptop, the Nextone sounds no better than a Katana 50. If you like it-great- but as far as I can tell the Nextone is an overpriced Katana without the Katana's effects.
I continually find it amusing when people obviously believe the difference between a Marshall and a Fender is in the tubes.. The tubes are a minor difference.
I forgot about the price, but I found them online pretty cheap. I'm also looking at the Marshall Origin 20 and the DSL 20 and 40. I need something I can practice with and record at home and use for an occasional small gig. The origin would require a good overdrive though because it doesn't have enough gain. More gain. More gain. !! 🤣 I have katana mk2 50 which I really like on the brown channel. Great review sir. Great valid points. Love hour reviews my friend. Be safe sir.
"which is uhhh.... a bit more in dollars." Lol that cracked me up! I don't have a clue what it is myself and I'm American and own this exact amp. I don't remember exactly but pretty sure about 500 dollars. And yeah I'm not crazy about it. The biggest thing for me was the .5w setting sounds decent for me and that's all I really can ever play on in terms of volume. I leave it on clean, 12 o'clock the eqs, turn the master all the way up, the presence 12 and then use my pedals. I do like 2 of the valve settings with my board. The el34 and the 6v6. But yeah in the end I'm kind of disappointed in it. Thanks for the video sir!
I know you already reviewed this. Boss just came out with a version 2 software update. Profiles a ton of existing amps and they're pretty diverse sounding. Not as Marshall as my dsl40 or hotrod as my hotrod deluxe, but for daily practice and 0 tube maintenance alriight.
This makes me feel pretty good about getting that Roland 80X from the junk electronics store even if I did have to fix the reverb. Roland owns Boss. (Not the snow plows) I truly wonder why they stopped selling those cube amps as Roland had sold over a million. Why mess with success? Thanks for the review.
I am an owner of the Roland Blues Cube Hot and I love it. I think if the Nextone had that speaker it would make a big difference. I was interested in the Nextone when it first came out because of the Valve options but unfortunately it doesn't seem to really do much. That's too bad. Maybe they will do some kind of update. We shall see
Sounds like a solid state amp. The search for the ultimate solid-state amp continues. You are a great player so hard to tell. I'm sure you could even make a silvertone sound good.
@@guitarocd9984 look everyone in nyc here has been raving about the new Fender Tonemasters I wanted to LOVE IT!! I just played em both...gimme a break sounded sterile and the reverb was meh...you just cannot ever get a true tube sound without a tube amp,,,and I love and play every kinda amp
In 1984 I stumbled onto a Randall rg80. It was my main amp for 20 years. I gigged with it. And like we do I sold it. I don't gig anymore so anything is good enough. But there's a place in my heart for solid state amps.
You seem like an experienced player but your assessment of the power amp switching section making little to no difference makes it seem like you don’t really understand how that works. If you’re mostly a high gain player then I get that you wouldn’t really understand these subtle differences. You’re not going to get huge tonal differences switching this section but there will be mild differences in how soon it breaks up, but you would only notice that pushing each power amp section to the limit. Also, there’s a difference in how it responds under your fingers, again subtle but I think it would have to be something you’re seeking. You have to set up the amp for the type of amp you’re going for. I have a profile set up on this to use as a straight Fender Deluxe, one for a Marshall combo and one in which I have a Twin on the clean and Marshall on the Lead channel. The amp is brilliant for this application. I would agree if you mostly a high gain player, look elsewhere.
That moment where you compare the different tube-types says it all. I would hesitate on buying this simply because Boss found its niche within the pedal-area. Crossing over to amps will need a "trial and error"-period. Which pretty much sends me the other, bitter, way. Well done, Elmo finnish man from Finland Karjalainen
@@MrPolevaulter I've noticed your following is growing quite fast these days and you are approaching 4k. According to a rumor (planted somewhere at this very moment) you're planning to get a barb-wire tattoo round your arm to symbolize uniqueness. Care to ellaborate on said rumor? 👀
Sounds great - but it will sound Better ! Maybe you should have given the new speaker some more playing time to "Break in" , I always made this experience with new amps - Noticed a great Sound - Volume improvement after 20-40 Hours of playing . Seems many players dont have the patience for that ! .
I returned mine for the same reason. The amp sounds good (I’m not a high gain player), but the emulations don’t really sound much if at all different. I have a Princeton Reverb already and other than added delay, it’s not a viable option for variety. If it had the effects section of the Katana, I’d have kept it if only to be able to leave the pedalboard at home for gigs.
That's the same price range as the Roland blues cube artist. The main reason im looking at these is im tired of amps being so fragile. I really can't say without hearing them in person
Although I like the amp and I kept it, I do agree with a lot of your review. It is actually a one trick pony 🤷🏻♂️ and it is not marketed like that and indeed it is not cheap. I only use the clean channel with pedals and it does that pretty well. I’m an old school type of player so we look for different things in an amp. But I like to record at home with a mic and it serves that purpose. But I do understand that this is not an amp for everyone 😉
It was clear from the start that you decided not to like the amp, no matter what. That's fine, you are a tube snob. That's cool. I like my tube amps too. But i also have the Nextone Stage, a BluesCube Stage and a Fender Tonemaster. If i am totally honest to myself, they do just as good a job as my tube amps which are basically a dying technology.
I've now seen several reviews on the Nextone Artist: That Pedal Show, and several good guitarists who seem to know what they're talking about. They've even demonstrated different sounds to back up their reviews. They all are quite different to your opinion. I'm just trying to figure out if it's a case of The Emporer's New Clothes, or a matter of taste or something else. This amp is a solid consideration for me, and will likely be my last amp purchase for some time. Even with your negative feelings. I still see some value here.
I don't get why the amp sounds so average in your review compared to how good it sounds in the Brett Kingman and 'in the blues' videos. The best one is Dylans review where a tube amp addict plays the nextone.
I somehow missed this one I guess, it don't remember. Imagine my surprise when J did a search for nextone 40 review and you popped up first or second in the results set. Do you remember if this felt like a tube amp? I've heard good things, but I bet you have to use the gid damn app which sucks, but you can adjust bias and sag, etc which might make it more responsive. It sounds ok so far hearing it just on mg phone at least. I love the specs on paper at least with the attenuation for jamming at lower volume and the idea you can pick power amp types which is very cool for recording especially. You were killing me with that one tune. 🤣 Sounds good with your overdrive pedal and I thought it sounded great when you were playing the Yngwie stuff. I would have to have a noise suppressor. Plus I would use a delay in the loop as well. Wah, and maybe even an overdrive like the boss SD1. Very cool man. Thanks brother.
This guy doesn't know what he is talking about, I have the stage model and the clean tone is better than my Quilter, great effects light well made, much better amp than the Katana.
Finn doesn't bother to check out anything about a combo and buys it expecting it to be good for modern metal. Because Finn thinks all amps are made for modern metal. When Finn finds out that the combo is not for modern metal and doesn't respond how he expects it to he denounces it as no good. Yeah. That combo is not for you Elmo. What do you think valve circuits do? Metal, metal, and maybe some of that Swedish metal that Ola guy plays? The Nextone combos are for people who know that the difference in the circuits is related to clean headroom and crunch. Of course you won't hear a great deal of difference if you come at it lunkheaded. And the conclusion that you should buy a valve amp because it will somehow be magically better and work differently because valves are Perkele and therefore metal on a stick is just fail. Elmo has been honest in his reviews. And his honesty has revealed the limitations of his own knowledge instead of any faults or cons with the combo he bought without understanding anything about.
Listening on my laptop, the Boss Nextone, the Boss Katana, and the Roland Blues Cube sound basically the same. They differ in name, looks, and features.
Buy a proper tube amp he says... But tube amps are too loud for home use, so what amp should you get that sounds great, that you can actually play at home without neighbours trying to kill you?
Harley Benton Tube5 or 15. Both go down to 1 watt. Or the Bugera V5, or a Marhshall DSL1CR, or a Plexi with a volume knob in the loop, like this: th-cam.com/video/0LR0haLKyng/w-d-xo.html
@@MrPolevaulter The problem is low wattage tube amps (I have one in my home) not giving you the same high end sound quality of tube amps, also it's not versatile at all, and I have to depend on pedals, so small tube amp is not great idea actually.
@@ahmed_hamdy That is absolutely right. The attenuation of tube amps down to a watt or less gives you a sound you can get with a pedal and a solid state box.
It's 'OK'. But the price of this amp is way too high. Boss probably manufacture it for around US$100 or so. In Australia, it's priced at AU $799.00. I bought a Marshall DSL20H recently and it sounds amazing. I'd pay no more than AU $350 for this amp.
Who is this for? For people who want a simple, reliable, great sounding amp without having to resort to software tweaks to get it right. At the pricepoint, this amp is better than the tube amp competitors and it’s far more robust with little to no need of maintenance. Simple.
I would beg to differ. The speaker sucks, the valve models do mostly nothing, and it just doesn't sound very good. But on the other hand it's very much subjective. And the amp is simple, which is nice.
Elmo Karjalainen and here’s the point which hundreds of amp reviews miss. Getting a good sound is all about getting the right combination of guitar, amp, style etc. I would agree that the sound you produced on this video was pretty bad, however it won’t be like that for everyone. With a different guitar and playing style this amp is brilliant, and has proved to be so for many many guitarists.
I would almost agree, but out of the 6 amps I've owned the 2 tube amps have been virtually problem free with no maintenance and 3 of the 4 solid state amps eventually died and weren't worth the repair costs to fix
Russell Ives reliability of my amps are pretty much the opposite, except I only have one s/s amp which probably receives the worst treatment of all my amps. Of the 5 tube amps I have the only two that haven’t needed any repair work are the ones which sit in my room. The other three, which are gigged, seem to develop problems. One of them is broken right now, and like your s/s amp, it may not be worth repairing... on the whole, I think s/s amps are more reliable, but of course, that’s a generalisation...
That's absolutely true. And that's why we have different people reviewing gear, so that you get different perspectives from different people with different gear. Nothing is ever objective anyway.
My understanding is that this amp is not a "modelling" amp in the sense that the term modelling has come to mean, i.e.., digital emulations. It actually uses four different solid-state power amp sections to get it's different "tube" sounds. According to the guys on That Pedal Show, anyway...
All this solid state vs tube amp got me so tired that i don't want to be a musician anymore, this whole thing it's just ridiculous because you can sound almost identical to a tube amp without that much hassle, i don't want wait until the tubes warm up every time i turn on the amp just to sound a little bit more "musical"
Jh scholfield Right! Andertons “the Captain “ plus whoever, will be cheerleaders for anything. Cameron Cooper should just be a regional sales manager for Charvel Guitars. That’s all he reviews. And he never gives a bad review either! ⁉️. If boss nextones are so great, then why aren’t there any new reviews of them between summer 2019 and 2020 ❓ 😐 just sayin
What niche was Roland/BOSS trying to fill with this amp? Between the Blues Cube, Katana, and Jazz Chorus what - if anything - is the Nextone trying to add to that lineup that they can't do (in spades) already?
Got to love comments where the commenter slags off the maker of the video, and the commenter's channel has a video count of zero. So you can shout from the safety of never having to do anything yourself eh? Nice one.
Elmo Karjalainen Loved your playing, man (dynamics are fine and dandy)! But I guess there’s a point in saying that the difference actually exists between the power amp models. It just needs a lot of software play to make each sound proper which might well prove annoying. Besides, if one really wanted to make their certain amp sound good, they’d bother doing it, but when you have a hold of a decent valve amplifier in the first place, it’s just not worthwhile (which was actually a great point from this video!) Being an owner of a hefty pedalboard, I was actually curious if the Nextone works well with more aggressive distortion pedals like ProCo Rat and its clones. Is the 80-watt version going to work well in a live gig situation (being run considerably loud)? Once again, a great unbiased review! Made me rethink the decision to buy the amp for some tenth time now x)
Wouldn't you think the Artist sounds better (bigger combo, more oomph)? Wouldn't you think the Blues cubes sound better (same tech but restricted to 1 trick and maybe better components because of the Roland badge)?
Great review, I watched your other one as well.....I WAS going to buy one....but I'm a bit lost now. I live in an apartment so cant go too loud. I have a Fender Bassbreaker the valves went, got them changed and two month later it's droped by half power. I cant find a good amp for my needs. Will check out the blues cube!
I realise I'm late to the party here but wanted to say, firstly, I love the shredding! However your review didn't mention the switchable power modes on the amp and I think you've missed the key reason why people should consider buying this amp over a valve amp. You can play this at home on the 0.5W setting and achieve valve-like tone and feel and sociable volume levels that won't damage your eardrums or upset your neighbours. There are few all-tube amps at this or any price point that have the flexibility to be used both as home practice amps as well as cranked up on stage and that's precisely why I'm considering buying one.
Thanks for the comment, and the kind words. I forget exactly, but I do think I mentioned the power amp mode thing. And yeah, I realize why it's something people might look at. The problem for me is (especially now as I've tried some really inexpensive tube amps), is that this doesn't sound or feel like a tube amp to me.
Marshall f*cked up with the Code amps, Fender f*cked up with the Mustang GT amps (The older Mustang V2's are very decent, though! And possibly the V1's, but I've never played through one of those.) It seems like Boss wanted in on the _f*ck up an amp contest._ I think I would look much more favorably on the Nextone if the price tag was 200-250€.
The Marshall Code series are excellent amps. Your comment indicates to me that you have no ear, or perhaps you can't use the adjustments to get a sound you like. I turned one channel into my favorite Jazz amp tone of all time. So my $249 Code 50 saved me over a $1,000 because I have no need to purchase a specialist "Jazz only" amplifier. After that, I can still g back and play JCM800, Bluesbreaker and Plexi tones from the same amp.
@@PeterDad60 Hey, it's great if you're getting what you want from the Code series! It's not like it would hurt me if you do. But I think we're probably looking for very different features and sounds. I was initially looking to buy the Code 100, when they were about to come out. I was very hyped for it. Then they increased the price (I think it was like 200€ price increase for the Code 100.) And then the reviews started coming in... and I can't say I was very impressed at that point. This video is pretty accurate description of my feelings about the Code series at the time: th-cam.com/video/8-DUNsPANA8/w-d-xo.html (Yes, I know the Code 25 is quite different from the 100.)
@@MrPolevaulter it's garbage. Had mine for a few weeks, tried really hard to convince myself it sounded good, but it was pure 1 dimension solid state ugggghness. Katana is 10000 times better in terms of that style of amp.
I would love to hear how any Nextone and Katana amp stacks up or sounds against the older Roland GA 212 amp -- I have the GA 212 and a CUBE 80 XL. I am encouraged to think that the GA 212 amp will likely sound better because you think that even the CUBE 80s sound better than the Nextone and Katanas.
I dont know anything about this amp really. but it might be amazing if u use the program on PC, but obviously its not a good amp for you :P, and wow u legit can buy a 2x12 100W tube amp for €500 easy
Hi scalloped fretboard-guy. "Why don't you get a valve amp?" Because it has to be maintenanced like shit and the sound is NOT that much better - and it won't be better at all in.. say 2 or three years. So that little bit more of money to be paid to this - very nice - amp is NOTHING compared to the amount you will pay most regularly for tubes, the maintenance charges of a tube amp (biasing, valve sockets, etc. - and maybe a new transformer), it's relatively higher price is nothing compared to the amount you will pay for taxi fees to get your tube amp carried from A to B., the money you will spend for orthopaedic surgery or profilactic backbone training, etc. : ) Not to mention the problems you face regarding weather conditions, humidity, and so on ... The speaker may be not the right one - that is a matter of taste. And the tone maniacs using a bullshit Blues Junior usually change it's speaker too - so what is wrong with this amp? Nothing. In general I like the way you present your stuff and I find your playing technically awesome BUT it does not support the sound and feel of THIS amp. Here is a sample from boss, with someone who plays it in a way, that would not let me think "the speaker ain't good enough": th-cam.com/video/8-epcZwRQWw/w-d-xo.html You are obviously a shredder - with all due respect: this is not your amp. But the title of your video is just hilarious: "Final Verdict" - I watched this one too; it is not squeezed into 12 Minutes and goes much deeper: th-cam.com/video/8CoVcIEh_3g/w-d-xo.html I will buy this amp.
Tweak the amp with the amp. Dude you are total right. Amps don't need bluetooth, usb and wlan. They need a real circuit with real pots; no iPads, no mobile phones, no internet, no software updates. Therefore I play through a prs sonzera 20w combo, with real tubes inside, real tube overdrive, real tube clean, real tube driven spring reverb and a two button footswitch.
Great video. I am more of a Blues/Rock player and generally play more low/medium gain. Thought about this amp...almost went for it. Then I really listened to it and was underwhelmed. Appreciate your reviews. Always honest. Thanks
@@MrPolevaulter I got trolled on my facebook guitar group for saying the best thing about Katana was its handy size makes it a useful foot rest. Members actually left, members without ears I would imagine.
@@rhkendallI find it truly baffling that people get so worked up over gear. You say something they don't like, and people go mental. It's really weird. So someone doesn't like the same amp you do? So what? Grow up people. Sorry you had to go through that. Keep saying what you think mate. I found your comment funny 😀
Clean sound is poor and the crunch (what I think they designed it for) is awful. When you can pick up much better second hand amps for no money then investing 500 Euros for one of these is crazy.
Have you ever actually sat and listened back to your guitar playing? If you're using the instrument as a form of fine motor skill enhancement and dexterity training then you're showing marvellous progress. If you're intending to actually play music that is pleasing to an audience you may want to consider such musical ideas as slowing down your phrasing, playing outside of the pentatonic boxes or playing melodically within them, using dynamics, blending single note passages with poly note and chord based progressions, a unifying theme which has both tension and resolution.....just a thought.....you're obviously a more than capable player and I'd love to see you play more expressively
This looks like hot garbage. My Katana 50 with footswitch cost me $250, NEW, is louder, and I get a built-in blues driver with that. Don't know what BOSS was thinking...
Amp not for metal. Amp to be stirred using the software. Amp not to be used in low volumes/without boosters. That said, albeit not a fantastic amp, a quite useable one.
why is this more expensive than the Katana.. It does not sound any better.. Is the speaker the same in the Katana 100 and this amp.. I heard demos of the katana 100 on Andertons and guitarist magazine that make it sound pretty sweet. But the Katana artist is probably the combo amp to get.. A much better speaker made by Celestion I think.. tailored for the amp,
At 2:32 : Now..going over the crunchier tones.....(eye roll) I knew then Roland needed a months supply of Metameucil.....when only sandpaper works better than easyriders....LOL Those practice Microcubes are the shit though...hit and miss with these guys..Behringer and Mako couldnt have done worse on a bad day
Listening on my laptop, the Nextone sounds no better than a Katana 50, but it lacks the Katana's effects and costs a lot more. That "Power Amp Select" switch on the Nextone is silly and reminds me of the goofy looking "Tone Capsules" you can buy for the Blues Cubes; it's almost like these amps are marketed to children. I'd rather have a Katana Artist than a Nextone.
Judging by your playing I'm not surprised you don't like it - bit of a mismatch. This one does the amp justice: th-cam.com/video/rDf1eMTiE_E/w-d-xo.html
Just buy a used tube amp and a boss GT1 effects pedal , trust me I had a 240watt spider 5 amd traded it in a peavey classic 30 and the tone is amazing compared to these modeling amps
Yea, it is better. The Nextone is a fucking ripoff. On my laptop, the Nextone sounds like a Katana 50 only it lacks the all the Katana's effects and costs way more money
Er .... probably not never ! But the sound is processed, compressed + usually played with guitar in isolation so there is no way of knowing how the sound would sit or project in a live mix
Absolutely. But you can't go around buying every piece of gear there is, and reviews give you a good starting point. They're no substitute for trying gear out yourself.
Check out more of my amp reviews here: th-cam.com/play/PLNaLwTdlpQNHNo5bubVjV1OW04gkqU8rM.html
The truth will set you free and Elmo sets us free with every review he does!! Thanks
I've never seen a video where you like anything
Then you haven't seen many of my videos. I like a lot of stuff.
John
I agree ! But Elmo is picky about his sound. That’s why I look to his videos.
He is opinionated. I will agree.
And Elmo is a metal player trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear (Nextone into a Marshall, Randall, Mesa Boogie)
..... I think this amp would sound good with Pops Staples; The Staples Singers, CCR, Al Green, Ry Cooder, Bonnie Raitt.
agreed
@@JohnDoe-jc3cl yup you nailed. It’s a great blues and light rock amp. Really really good. Easy to dial in. Rock and roll. Stones too, CCR, etc.
@@andrewwheelerguitar
Thanks for acknowledging me!! At least my ear is on the right track!
I respect Elmo. But he was really disappointed with this amp. I know it looks like a Marshall JTM 45. But it’s not. My Peavey blue stripe bandit is more like that.
I used to think there were 2 types of amps in the world: “ clock radios “ or Marshalls. No, it’s like girlfriends; there’s ALL types.
Anyhow in my mind, the Nextone Stage is patterned after a fender. A champ or a Princeton maybe?
I broke down 2 weeks ago and bought one to play at church and jam at people’s houses and hopefully house parties and coffee houses.
It’ll get SRV( little wing) , Kenny Burrell, Hubert sumlin, Toy Caldwell, Pops Staples, John Fogerty sounds for days.
You’re not going to do metal with this amp.
I bought it because it was relatively light (29 lbs) , reliable to gig with, and rounded distortion. Just like Waddy Watchel playing behind Linda Ronstadt ( tumbling dice). I wanted an amp that would give me some dirt, but I wouldn’t bury the female vocals.
These amps are not for everyone. They are not moving at guitar centers around Chicago. But not everyone wants an amp that goes from Fender cleans to medium dirt.
But it works for me.
Give it a week. Andertons will spend 40 minutes telling us it's the amp of the gods, lol.
Haha :D
JH Scofield
They actually just do a blind test so you can decide for yourself.
th-cam.com/video/x_3UJ87okeg/w-d-xo.html
I’ve stopped listening to Anderson’s ... their review on katana versus fender champion 50XL was a farce . I ended up buying both and there is no comparison! The katana is better in every single way
Blues player here: I found the Nextone to be very close to the Blues Cube in terms of the overall tone. The Katana does not have the tone the Nextone does and I do like the Nextone better. That said, the Nextone is more than double the price and quite close in new price to a Marshall DSL which I consider to be the superior amp in this range. The advantages of the Nextone is that it is light and small (which the Katana also is) and it should be quite reliable (which the Katana also is). So, I tend to agree that, at this price point, there are better options - or sacrifice a little tone and get a Katana.
Cheers for the input Ken.
@ken Dickinson Yes good assessment. I had all three. Kat bang for buck good do it all amp but lacks inspirational tone, Blues Cube Artist great feel but tone not to everyone's taste. But only amp I have gigged for three years. Then the Nextone which had some great features but I could not get the drive channel right. In the end decided that the other two fitted my needs better so sent it back. However kind regret that because on 6l6 mode and just using as a clean pedal platform then it might have been better for me....
It’s on the price range of the blues jr iv
I purchased at a good price my Nextstone Stage to practice in apartment.
I am playing an old 84' Strat for clean and blues stuff and even at bedroom volume, i really hear a different feeling between the four modes, specially with overdrive pedals.
I also own a Fender HotRod dlx + power attenuator and it's unusable in apartment : neighbors are saying it sounds "sh.t" ;-)
Sounds good for me, without metal shredding. Thanks a lot for your demos :-)
Cheers Jim :)
It's all a matter of opinion. Shane from the "in the blues" channel says that this amp is better than a peavey bandit red stripe. And many of us LOVE the peavey bandit! (unlike Elmo and that's fine!). No amp will fully satisfy all players. Ever. Period.
Compare the playing style of Elmo and Shane and you can see why one really likes the amp, and the other dislikes the amp. Its all simple without getting caught up in the knuckle dragging "this sucks" camp.
The tones of the nextone are for those who enjoy that vintage surf rock, jangle rockabilly and high or low gain blues tones! If you want a high gain metal amp there are no doubt far better options.
I found this amp for 300 euros with the pedal in mint condition and i am totally stoked! Got no time (or cash) for tubes!
Good for you 😊
You make some good points.
Although to be honest, I'd rather get a Harley Benton Tube15 for not much more, which is VERY nice.
And just to clear up where I come from, I like a Plexi, which isn't high gain at all. But you're right. It's all subjective 😊
@@MrPolevaulter Hmm.. Your comment puts some gradients of gray into my black and white logic on this tone issue.. I would have guessed that you'd loathe a plexi!
Ahh yes.. i was considering the sweet tube15, but went with the nextone stage to avoid tube hassle and because this was a purchase for a home low volume/late night amp.
If my infatuation with the nextone fizzles out after the honeymoon period, i will flip it for the tube15! But so far i am very pleased and like it more than the roland jc40, peavey bandit and the many valvestates i had before it. Only time will tell now my friend!
I respect your opinion, Elmo, and I would agree that the amp is not necessarily a good choice for shredding or highly rectified sounds without a pedal. However, it's a great sounding amp in the classic style, and you would be hard-pressed to tell the difference between it and the tube amps it emulates. It's clear that your musical talents are more on the metal side, but you can tell from other demos that the amp does in fact sound great for classic rock and Blues. As I said, I agree the amp isn't made for high-gain rectified sound and blistering scales. It's made for the more challenging classic rock and blues and the ability to make the guitar sing without having to rely on Self indulgent speed
I think you might have misunderstood what I'm about. I'v found plenty of amps that can do bluesy stuff, and this can't do it with that speaker. With a better speaker it sounds OK. A good amp can do both though.
I disagree, the classic blues/crunch thing this amp wants to do sounds much better on a similarly priced fender or vox amp. Go watch another review if you don't want the shredder type guitarrist. The comparison they did at that pedal show with the ac15 might be more your alley
@@MrPolevaulter , you are a damn fine guitar player and you do excellent reviews. I'm glad that I subscribed to your video channel. But I still like the next nextone. LOL
@@dpgoguen Haha :D It's all good :)
Man I like your honest review. Great when someone speaks straight.
Thanks! Much appreciated 😊
Refreshing to see an honest review - I tried the larger version (nextone special 80w) of this amp and thought it sounded good -but- wayyy overpriced @ $900 usd
I had very bad service from my music store so should give a negative report. BUT Been playing for 30 years. What I don't like is tube volume making small venues turned into mud on stage. Nextone gives crunch and drive at lower volumes with pick attack skills. So your review to me was more about your skill set and lack of concern for other band members and the sound guy. there are differences between the four value settings and if you can't use them or won't use them then get a different amp for shredding. The four tube technology amps permit greater variety for other things than shredding. The variety I believe is its purpose for a clean and crunch combo for a gig and with volume knob control skills the crunch sweetens up without losing much volume adding dynamics other than shredding and no tube matainence to worry about and lighter to carry.
Yep, my thoughts about the amp also.
The speaker will improve its sound when broken in. The cabinet could probably be improved as it’s most likely composite board; switching to solid pine always improves the sound compared to that stuff.
Sitting with a Stage yesterday showed the tube-type setting affected feel and headroom at low volume. For gain at volume they’re likely to affect low-end and sparkle in addition if they behave like the real tubes do. Those are the same things I see from my 6V6, 6L6 and EL-84 amps.
These are intriguing amps and worth investigating.
Yea, whatever. On my laptop, the Nextone sounds no better than a Katana 50. If you like it-great- but as far as I can tell the Nextone is an overpriced Katana without the Katana's effects.
I continually find it amusing when people obviously believe the difference between a Marshall and a Fender is in the tubes.. The tubes are a minor difference.
Embarrassing review. You actively wanted to dislike this amp clearly.
Yes. I really wanted to hate it.
I'm glad I found this video.. You just save me a ton of money.
Glad I did :)
Finally! Someone playing the amp that can actually play the guitar..
Thanks!
I forgot about the price, but I found them online pretty cheap.
I'm also looking at the Marshall Origin 20 and the DSL 20 and 40. I need something I can practice with and record at home and use for an occasional small gig. The origin would require a good overdrive though because it doesn't have enough gain. More gain. More gain. !! 🤣
I have katana mk2 50 which I really like on the brown channel. Great review sir. Great valid points. Love hour reviews my friend. Be safe sir.
"which is uhhh.... a bit more in dollars." Lol that cracked me up! I don't have a clue what it is myself and I'm American and own this exact amp. I don't remember exactly but pretty sure about 500 dollars. And yeah I'm not crazy about it. The biggest thing for me was the .5w setting sounds decent for me and that's all I really can ever play on in terms of volume. I leave it on clean, 12 o'clock the eqs, turn the master all the way up, the presence 12 and then use my pedals. I do like 2 of the valve settings with my board. The el34 and the 6v6. But yeah in the end I'm kind of disappointed in it. Thanks for the video sir!
And thank you :)
I know you already reviewed this. Boss just came out with a version 2 software update. Profiles a ton of existing amps and they're pretty diverse sounding. Not as Marshall as my dsl40 or hotrod as my hotrod deluxe, but for daily practice and 0 tube maintenance alriight.
Thankyou for a honest straight forward review, which incidently is reflecting the general consensus of independent reviewers.
Cheers!
This makes me feel pretty good about getting that Roland 80X from the junk electronics store even if I did have to fix the reverb. Roland owns Boss. (Not the snow plows) I truly wonder why they stopped selling those cube amps as Roland had sold over a million. Why mess with success? Thanks for the review.
Pretty much what I've been wondering for a while.
Upon seeing you had made a review of this amp my immediate reaction was of elation! My fav reviewer noq
Thanks!
I am an owner of the Roland Blues Cube Hot and I love it.
I think if the Nextone had that speaker it would make a big difference. I was interested in the Nextone when it first came out because of the Valve options but unfortunately it doesn't seem to really do much. That's too bad.
Maybe they will do some kind of update. We shall see
Yeah, it's a bit strange.
Haha :D Artificial rubber duck :D
James Marciniec Agree about the Roland Blues Cube HOT. Great amp with a great speaker. 👍
Sounds like a solid state amp. The search for the ultimate solid-state amp continues. You are a great player so hard to tell. I'm sure you could even make a silvertone sound good.
Cheers :)
they all sound like ss amps...get a tube amp if you want a tube sound
That's true but lets not give up hope.
@@guitarocd9984 look everyone in nyc here has been raving about the new Fender Tonemasters I wanted to LOVE IT!! I just played em both...gimme a break sounded sterile and the reverb was meh...you just cannot ever get a true tube sound without a tube amp,,,and I love and play every kinda amp
In 1984 I stumbled onto a Randall rg80. It was my main amp for 20 years. I gigged with it. And like we do I sold it. I don't gig anymore so anything is good enough. But there's a place in my heart for solid state amps.
You seem like an experienced player but your assessment of the power amp switching section making little to no difference makes it seem like you don’t really understand how that works. If you’re mostly a high gain player then I get that you wouldn’t really understand these subtle differences. You’re not going to get huge tonal differences switching this section but there will be mild differences in how soon it breaks up, but you would only notice that pushing each power amp section to the limit. Also, there’s a difference in how it responds under your fingers, again subtle but I think it would have to be something you’re seeking. You have to set up the amp for the type of amp you’re going for. I have a profile set up on this to use as a straight Fender Deluxe, one for a Marshall combo and one in which I have a Twin on the clean and Marshall on the Lead channel. The amp is brilliant for this application. I would agree if you mostly a high gain player, look elsewhere.
Refreshing to get an honest review rather then cheer leading a product
That moment where you compare the different tube-types says it all. I would hesitate on buying this simply because Boss found its niche within the pedal-area. Crossing over to amps will need a "trial and error"-period. Which pretty much sends me the other, bitter, way.
Well done, Elmo finnish man from Finland Karjalainen
Yeah, this isn't a (very) good amp at all.
@@MrPolevaulter I've noticed your following is growing quite fast these days and you are approaching 4k. According to a rumor (planted somewhere at this very moment) you're planning to get a barb-wire tattoo round your arm to symbolize uniqueness. Care to ellaborate on said rumor? 👀
Haha :D That, and some faux Chinese on my other arm :D
@@MrPolevaulter 😂. Oooooor. The chinese word for "courage". But in henna 👌. Idea by Phil Dunphy, Modern family.
@@MagisterTuomo Haha 😂
Sounds great - but it will sound Better ! Maybe you should have given the new speaker some more playing time to "Break in" , I always made this experience with new amps - Noticed a great Sound - Volume improvement after 20-40 Hours of playing . Seems many players dont have the patience for that ! .
Maybe. Didn't really have time for that though.
@@MrPolevaulter 99% of instrument sellers dont know and never tell that to customers either - its their blame - they just want profit .
Sounds like crap to me. Maybe use your tone settings better? The Nextone must be able to sound way better.
I returned mine for the same reason. The amp sounds good (I’m not a high gain player), but the emulations don’t really sound much if at all different. I have a Princeton Reverb already and other than added delay, it’s not a viable option for variety. If it had the effects section of the Katana, I’d have kept it if only to be able to leave the pedalboard at home for gigs.
Yeah, I completely understand.
That's the same price range as the Roland blues cube artist. The main reason im looking at these is im tired of amps being so fragile. I really can't say without hearing them in person
Although I like the amp and I kept it, I do agree with a lot of your review. It is actually a one trick pony 🤷🏻♂️ and it is not marketed like that and indeed it is not cheap. I only use the clean channel with pedals and it does that pretty well. I’m an old school type of player so we look for different things in an amp. But I like to record at home with a mic and it serves that purpose. But I do understand that this is not an amp for everyone 😉
It was clear from the start that you decided not to like the amp, no matter what. That's fine, you are a tube snob. That's cool. I like my tube amps too.
But i also have the Nextone Stage, a BluesCube Stage and a Fender Tonemaster. If i am totally honest to myself, they do just as good a job as my tube amps which are basically a dying technology.
I've now seen several reviews on the Nextone Artist: That Pedal Show, and several good guitarists who seem to know what they're talking about. They've even demonstrated different sounds to back up their reviews. They all are quite different to your opinion. I'm just trying to figure out if it's a case of The Emporer's New Clothes, or a matter of taste or something else. This amp is a solid consideration for me, and will likely be my last amp purchase for some time. Even with your negative feelings. I still see some value here.
Hope it works for you.
@@MrPolevaulter Thanks. I appreciate your honest reviews.
@@geofrito Cheers :)
I decided to order a hand wired tweed deluxe style amp. Hopefully will arrive next week.
I don't get why the amp sounds so average in your review compared to how good it sounds in the Brett Kingman and 'in the blues' videos. The best one is Dylans review where a tube amp addict plays the nextone.
I somehow missed this one I guess, it don't remember. Imagine my surprise when J did a search for nextone 40 review and you popped up first or second in the results set.
Do you remember if this felt like a tube amp? I've heard good things, but I bet you have to use the gid damn app which sucks, but you can adjust bias and sag, etc which might make it more responsive.
It sounds ok so far hearing it just on mg phone at least.
I love the specs on paper at least with the attenuation for jamming at lower volume and the idea you can pick power amp types which is very cool for recording especially.
You were killing me with that one tune. 🤣
Sounds good with your overdrive pedal and I thought it sounded great when you were playing the Yngwie stuff. I would have to have a noise suppressor. Plus I would use a delay in the loop as well. Wah, and maybe even an overdrive like the boss SD1.
Very cool man.
Thanks brother.
I don't really remember. I just have the feeling I wasn't too impressed.
Thanks.
This guy doesn't know what he is talking about, I have the stage model and the clean tone is better than my Quilter, great effects light well made, much better amp than the Katana.
Finn doesn't bother to check out anything about a combo and buys it expecting it to be good for modern metal. Because Finn thinks all amps are made for modern metal. When Finn finds out that the combo is not for modern metal and doesn't respond how he expects it to he denounces it as no good.
Yeah. That combo is not for you Elmo.
What do you think valve circuits do? Metal, metal, and maybe some of that Swedish metal that Ola guy plays?
The Nextone combos are for people who know that the difference in the circuits is related to clean headroom and crunch. Of course you won't hear a great deal of difference if you come at it lunkheaded.
And the conclusion that you should buy a valve amp because it will somehow be magically better and work differently because valves are Perkele and therefore metal on a stick is just fail.
Elmo has been honest in his reviews. And his honesty has revealed the limitations of his own knowledge instead of any faults or cons with the combo he bought without understanding anything about.
Listening on my laptop, the Boss Nextone, the Boss Katana, and the Roland Blues Cube sound basically the same. They differ in name, looks, and features.
As you say listening on your laptop... you get what you pay for with these offerings... each a step above each other.
Buy a proper tube amp he says... But tube amps are too loud for home use, so what amp should you get that sounds great, that you can actually play at home without neighbours trying to kill you?
Harley Benton Tube5 or 15. Both go down to 1 watt. Or the Bugera V5, or a Marhshall DSL1CR, or a Plexi with a volume knob in the loop, like this: th-cam.com/video/0LR0haLKyng/w-d-xo.html
@@MrPolevaulter
The problem is low wattage tube amps (I have one in my home) not giving you the same high end sound quality of tube amps, also it's not versatile at all, and I have to depend on pedals, so small tube amp is not great idea actually.
@@ahmed_hamdy That is absolutely right. The attenuation of tube amps down to a watt or less gives you a sound you can get with a pedal and a solid state box.
@@ahmed_hamdy Except they sound so much better than this. The for instance Harley Benton Tube15 is great.
It's 'OK'. But the price of this amp is way too high. Boss probably manufacture it for around US$100 or so. In Australia, it's priced at AU $799.00. I bought a Marshall DSL20H recently and it sounds amazing. I'd pay no more than AU $350 for this amp.
Who is this for? For people who want a simple, reliable, great sounding amp without having to resort to software tweaks to get it right. At the pricepoint, this amp is better than the tube amp competitors and it’s far more robust with little to no need of maintenance. Simple.
I would beg to differ. The speaker sucks, the valve models do mostly nothing, and it just doesn't sound very good. But on the other hand it's very much subjective. And the amp is simple, which is nice.
Elmo Karjalainen and here’s the point which hundreds of amp reviews miss. Getting a good sound is all about getting the right combination of guitar, amp, style etc. I would agree that the sound you produced on this video was pretty bad, however it won’t be like that for everyone. With a different guitar and playing style this amp is brilliant, and has proved to be so for many many guitarists.
I would almost agree, but out of the 6 amps I've owned the 2 tube amps have been virtually problem free with no maintenance and 3 of the 4 solid state amps eventually died and weren't worth the repair costs to fix
Russell Ives reliability of my amps are pretty much the opposite, except I only have one s/s amp which probably receives the worst treatment of all my amps. Of the 5 tube amps I have the only two that haven’t needed any repair work are the ones which sit in my room. The other three, which are gigged, seem to develop problems. One of them is broken right now, and like your s/s amp, it may not be worth repairing... on the whole, I think s/s amps are more reliable, but of course, that’s a generalisation...
That's absolutely true. And that's why we have different people reviewing gear, so that you get different perspectives from different people with different gear. Nothing is ever objective anyway.
Per your recommendation I just picked up the Peavey 6505 mh and it’s awesome. Thank you :)
Great to hear!
My understanding is that this amp is not a "modelling" amp in the sense that the term modelling has come to mean, i.e.., digital emulations. It actually uses four different solid-state power amp sections to get it's different "tube" sounds. According to the guys on That Pedal Show, anyway...
That might be right. It doesn't change the sound of the thing though...
All this solid state vs tube amp got me so tired that i don't want to be a musician anymore, this whole thing it's just ridiculous because you can sound almost identical to a tube amp without that much hassle, i don't want wait until the tubes warm up every time i turn on the amp just to sound a little bit more "musical"
Jh scholfield
Right! Andertons “the Captain “ plus whoever, will be cheerleaders for anything.
Cameron Cooper should just be a regional sales manager for Charvel Guitars. That’s all he reviews. And he never gives a bad review either!
⁉️. If boss nextones are so great, then why aren’t there any new reviews of them between summer 2019 and 2020 ❓
😐 just sayin
Yeah. If they're really that good, there'd be more of a buzz about them.
What niche was Roland/BOSS trying to fill with this amp? Between the Blues Cube, Katana, and Jazz Chorus what - if anything - is the Nextone trying to add to that lineup that they can't do (in spades) already?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Great review; I agree, thanks.
Thanks 😊
The Katana 100 or the Katana Artist run circles around this piece of gear. Meanwhile back here with my Marshall DSL 40 Vintage :)
They do indeed :)
i hear a big difference in the amp modes. maybe you need to have more dynamic playing! oh yeaaaa
Got to love comments where the commenter slags off the maker of the video, and the commenter's channel has a video count of zero. So you can shout from the safety of never having to do anything yourself eh? Nice one.
Elmo Karjalainen Loved your playing, man (dynamics are fine and dandy)! But I guess there’s a point in saying that the difference actually exists between the power amp models. It just needs a lot of software play to make each sound proper which might well prove annoying. Besides, if one really wanted to make their certain amp sound good, they’d bother doing it, but when you have a hold of a decent valve amplifier in the first place, it’s just not worthwhile (which was actually a great point from this video!)
Being an owner of a hefty pedalboard, I was actually curious if the Nextone works well with more aggressive distortion pedals like ProCo Rat and its clones. Is the 80-watt version going to work well in a live gig situation (being run considerably loud)?
Once again, a great unbiased review! Made me rethink the decision to buy the amp for some tenth time now x)
Wouldn't you think the Artist sounds better (bigger combo, more oomph)? Wouldn't you think the Blues cubes sound better (same tech but restricted to 1 trick and maybe better components because of the Roland badge)?
Maybe.
This amp is made specially for clean and mild od sounds, shredding & metal tones its not on his territory.
Great review, I watched your other one as well.....I WAS going to buy one....but I'm a bit lost now. I live in an apartment so cant go too loud. I have a Fender Bassbreaker the valves went, got them changed and two month later it's droped by half power. I cant find a good amp for my needs. Will check out the blues cube!
Glad to be of help. Haven't tried the Blues Cube. Maybe I should.
These are now $299 usd, at that price would you recommend it? Can it get loud enough for a small gig?
I think it should be loud enough.
I realise I'm late to the party here but wanted to say, firstly, I love the shredding! However your review didn't mention the switchable power modes on the amp and I think you've missed the key reason why people should consider buying this amp over a valve amp.
You can play this at home on the 0.5W setting and achieve valve-like tone and feel and sociable volume levels that won't damage your eardrums or upset your neighbours.
There are few all-tube amps at this or any price point that have the flexibility to be used both as home practice amps as well as cranked up on stage and that's precisely why I'm considering buying one.
Thanks for the comment, and the kind words. I forget exactly, but I do think I mentioned the power amp mode thing.
And yeah, I realize why it's something people might look at. The problem for me is (especially now as I've tried some really inexpensive tube amps), is that this doesn't sound or feel like a tube amp to me.
Marshall f*cked up with the Code amps, Fender f*cked up with the Mustang GT amps (The older Mustang V2's are very decent, though! And possibly the V1's, but I've never played through one of those.) It seems like Boss wanted in on the _f*ck up an amp contest._ I think I would look much more favorably on the Nextone if the price tag was 200-250€.
The Marshall Code series are excellent amps. Your comment indicates to me that you have no ear, or perhaps you can't use the adjustments to get a sound you like. I turned one channel into my favorite Jazz amp tone of all time. So my $249 Code 50 saved me over a $1,000 because I have no need to purchase a specialist "Jazz only" amplifier.
After that, I can still g back and play JCM800, Bluesbreaker and Plexi tones from the same amp.
@@PeterDad60 Hey, it's great if you're getting what you want from the Code series! It's not like it would hurt me if you do. But I think we're probably looking for very different features and sounds.
I was initially looking to buy the Code 100, when they were about to come out. I was very hyped for it. Then they increased the price (I think it was like 200€ price increase for the Code 100.) And then the reviews started coming in... and I can't say I was very impressed at that point.
This video is pretty accurate description of my feelings about the Code series at the time: th-cam.com/video/8-DUNsPANA8/w-d-xo.html (Yes, I know the Code 25 is quite different from the 100.)
I beg to differ when it comes to the Code being an excellent amp series. But it's all subjective, so if it works for someone, then great.
@@PeterDad60 bullshit. If you think the Code sounds good you need to go to Tone College. Solid state garbage bro. All modelling amps are crap.
@@MrPolevaulter it's garbage. Had mine for a few weeks, tried really hard to convince myself it sounded good, but it was pure 1 dimension solid state ugggghness. Katana is 10000 times better in terms of that style of amp.
I would love to hear how any Nextone and Katana amp stacks up or sounds against the older Roland GA 212 amp -- I have the GA 212 and a CUBE 80 XL. I am encouraged to think that the GA 212 amp will likely sound better because you think that even the CUBE 80s sound better than the Nextone and Katanas.
So if i only use pedals for gain (i have a bunch already), and no heavy distortion, it should be ok?
Maybe.
It don't have very much warmth ! Still sounds like a transistor amp .
I'm seeing those for around 400 same price as marshall haze (hard to find good reviews on) booth seem to need a new speaker or not I guess.
They sell it for $499 here in the USA.
I dont know anything about this amp really. but it might be amazing if u use the program on PC, but obviously its not a good amp for you :P, and wow u legit can buy a 2x12 100W tube amp for €500 easy
Obviously not 😂
I think you have been very generous.
Thanks!
Hi scalloped fretboard-guy. "Why don't you get a valve amp?" Because it has to be maintenanced like shit and the sound is NOT that much better - and it won't be better at all in.. say 2 or three years. So that little bit more of money to be paid to this - very nice - amp is NOTHING compared to the amount you will pay most regularly for tubes, the maintenance charges of a tube amp (biasing, valve sockets, etc. - and maybe a new transformer), it's relatively higher price is nothing compared to the amount you will pay for taxi fees to get your tube amp carried from A to B., the money you will spend for orthopaedic surgery or profilactic backbone training, etc. : ) Not to mention the problems you face regarding weather conditions, humidity, and so on ...
The speaker may be not the right one - that is a matter of taste. And the tone maniacs using a bullshit Blues Junior usually change it's speaker too - so what is wrong with this amp? Nothing.
In general I like the way you present your stuff and I find your playing technically awesome BUT it does not support the sound and feel of THIS amp. Here is a sample from boss, with someone who plays it in a way, that would not let me think "the speaker ain't good enough": th-cam.com/video/8-epcZwRQWw/w-d-xo.html
You are obviously a shredder - with all due respect: this is not your amp. But the title of your video is just hilarious: "Final Verdict" - I watched this one too; it is not squeezed into 12 Minutes and goes much deeper: th-cam.com/video/8CoVcIEh_3g/w-d-xo.html
I will buy this amp.
Tweak the amp with the amp. Dude you are total right. Amps don't need bluetooth, usb and wlan. They need a real circuit with real pots; no iPads, no mobile phones, no internet, no software updates. Therefore I play through a prs sonzera 20w combo, with real tubes inside, real tube overdrive, real tube clean, real tube driven spring reverb and a two button footswitch.
Absolutely. If I need a laptop to tweak it, then I'm selling it.
Tube snobs of the world unite : )
I thought it sounded great
Great video. I am more of a Blues/Rock player and generally play more low/medium gain. Thought about this amp...almost went for it. Then I really listened to it and was underwhelmed. Appreciate your reviews. Always honest. Thanks
Thank you for the kind words :)
Sign me up, the boss footstool!
Haha 😂
@@MrPolevaulter I got trolled on my facebook guitar group for saying the best thing about Katana was its handy size makes it a useful foot rest.
Members actually left, members without ears I would imagine.
@@rhkendallI find it truly baffling that people get so worked up over gear. You say something they don't like, and people go mental. It's really weird. So someone doesn't like the same amp you do? So what? Grow up people. Sorry you had to go through that. Keep saying what you think mate. I found your comment funny 😀
Katana or blues cube, both still king.
Cool :)
Clean sound is poor and the crunch (what I think they designed it for) is awful. When you can pick up much better second hand amps for no money then investing 500 Euros for one of these is crazy.
Yes I had one sent it back cleans were ok dirt was horrendous. Way overpriced for the tone quality.
Absolutely.
@@juujuubees379 My thoughts exactly.
lol i dont get why people are so pressed at you, great vid
Yeah, it's weird. Thanks :)
Considering what it sounds like and the price ... I'd much prefer a used Roland Cube 80XL.
Yeah, me too.
@@MrPolevaulter I think I will just wait for the NEXT ONE... :)
Have you ever actually sat and listened back to your guitar playing? If you're using the instrument as a form of fine motor skill enhancement and dexterity training then you're showing marvellous progress. If you're intending to actually play music that is pleasing to an audience you may want to consider such musical ideas as slowing down your phrasing, playing outside of the pentatonic boxes or playing melodically within them, using dynamics, blending single note passages with poly note and chord based progressions, a unifying theme which has both tension and resolution.....just a thought.....you're obviously a more than capable player and I'd love to see you play more expressively
Have you?
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I'm a bit disappointed you didn't respond. Oh well...
Elmo Karjalainen just viewed the other content. I stand corrected. Well done.
@@Atttuner Cheers Dan, and sorry for taking ages to reply.
This looks like hot garbage.
My Katana 50 with footswitch cost me $250, NEW, is louder, and I get a built-in blues driver with that.
Don't know what BOSS was thinking...
Kind of what I thought as well...
Amp not for metal. Amp to be stirred using the software. Amp not to be used in low volumes/without boosters.
That said, albeit not a fantastic amp, a quite useable one.
why is this more expensive than the Katana.. It does not sound any better.. Is the speaker the same in the Katana 100 and this amp.. I heard demos of the katana 100 on Andertons and guitarist magazine that make it sound pretty sweet. But the Katana artist is probably the combo amp to get.. A much better speaker made by Celestion I think.. tailored for the amp,
It did sound fairly good via a cab, but not via the inbuilt speaker.
At 2:32 : Now..going over the crunchier tones.....(eye roll) I knew then Roland needed a months supply of Metameucil.....when only sandpaper works better than easyriders....LOL Those practice Microcubes are the shit though...hit and miss with these guys..Behringer and Mako couldnt have done worse on a bad day
Micro Cubes rule :)
Listening on my laptop, the Nextone sounds no better than a Katana 50, but it lacks the Katana's effects and costs a lot more. That "Power Amp Select" switch on the Nextone is silly and reminds me of the goofy looking "Tone Capsules" you can buy for the Blues Cubes; it's almost like these amps are marketed to children. I'd rather have a Katana Artist than a Nextone.
Anderton's now sells it for 439 pounds
The Fender GTX50 or 100 would be better. Has a real Celestion Speaker and sounds very nice.
Judging by your playing I'm not surprised you don't like it - bit of a mismatch. This one does the amp justice: th-cam.com/video/rDf1eMTiE_E/w-d-xo.html
I’ve played both and the nextone sounded like a sterile katana .
Yeah, not great.
I tried this, I own a Boss Katana Artist and I wasn’t impressed with this amp, the Katana is way better, this sounds very muddy
Me neither.
Used fender Hrd blows this thing away
tubes bro tubes
Just buy a used tube amp and a boss GT1 effects pedal , trust me I had a 240watt spider 5 amd traded it in a peavey classic 30 and the tone is amazing compared to these modeling amps
Yeah. When you compare a more or less good tube amp with a SPIDER 5 most tube amps will sound better I guess. I don't trust you.
@@gnatiu furthermore a tube amp (for someone who plays at low volumes at home) would be a big expensive mistake.
The katana 100 watt is better?plz
Yea, it is better. The Nextone is a fucking ripoff. On my laptop, the Nextone sounds like a Katana 50 only it lacks the all the Katana's effects and costs way more money
profd65
You're an idiot if you base your opinions on sound coming from a laptop. Try it out in a store and then decide what you think of it.
Got bored before he started talking about the amp. I'm not interested in how great you think you play
Marshall Dsl40cr
Get a DV Mark and good cab.
Thanks for the tip. Think I'll stick with my Plexi though :)
Forget this one.just buy the katana.
Yeah. And I don't even like the Katana much. But it's a whole lot more bang for your buck than this thing.
Thumbs up for honestly ... oh and I agree, it’s far too meh for the money.
Indeed.
Doesn't Sound as good as KATANA or CUBE 40
Yep.
Stick with quilter
Quilter?
Elmo Karjalainen
Quilter is a brand that makes amps.
Heavy Metal players dont have good ears!!! LOL
Yes. Lol indeed.
I wouldn't say that.
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C'mon guys its all in the finger when it comes to tone :) Just kidding
Haha :D
TH-cam videos are NEVER a realistic guide for guitar gear.
Never? As in never ever?
Er .... probably not never ! But the sound is processed, compressed + usually played with guitar in isolation so there is no way of knowing how the sound would sit or project in a live mix
Absolutely. But you can't go around buying every piece of gear there is, and reviews give you a good starting point. They're no substitute for trying gear out yourself.