Ramosepele has done a fantastic job in letting gininda furnish all the evidences he had prior to the accused confessions. If the evidence collected prior to the confessions was used to corroborate the confessions, it could indeed raise questions about the legality and validity of how those confessions were obtained. This is because: 1. **Pre-existing Evidence**: If investigators already had substantial evidence before obtaining the confessions, it might suggest that the confessions were not entirely voluntary but rather influenced by the existing evidence. 2. **Influence on Confessions**: The knowledge of pre-existing evidence could potentially influence the accused to confess, especially if they felt that the evidence against them was overwhelming. 3. **Legal Procedures**: Proper legal procedures must be followed when obtaining confessions to ensure they are admissible in court. Any deviation from these procedures can lead to the confessions being challenged. In legal proceedings, the defense can argue that the confessions were obtained under questionable circumstances, which might lead to them being excluded from evidence. This is why the manner in which confessions are obtained is scrutinized closely in court.
Why are people who are willing to confess collected & taken to many places before going to the police station to write his own statement 🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️
Clan please focus on your good work forget about people who act like they don't see all the miscurage of justice in Rathas court room and it it totally disgusting really
Hi Clan u r 100% correct. Ramosepele did an excellent job,he opened the gate for Mgo, Mnisi, Nxumalo and a woman of AFRICA called Mshololo,he laid the foundation for them to poke deep holes as for LLB saying the father of the deceased that he said accuse No4 is involved in the murder of Meyiwa this damaged this case beyond recocgition worse his statements writters are all dead.Who is fooling who we are not kids
I saw Ratha's intention wasn't prepare to listen to Adv. Mnisi request. After said you must not fight in the court of law. Siphume kunzima leso statement and was emailed to Baloyi last week. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🙄🙄 he's so cruel Baloyi I wonder if does have a chance to pray
Ratha is bought. He came with th judgement and it is not going to change. Now tht its mnisiz time and other advocates ull c how he is going to disturb th deffenc.
I also gave up I didn’t watch anymore I had to deal with a double blow pain. I literally chose to be a 30 percenter😂😂😂on that letter video gave my own opinion different from yours with respect
You did give your opinion with respect and we've always respected each other. It's some people, Tshidi that I just don't get it they come at you with such disrespect and talk to you anyhow. I appreciated everyone that differed with me and there was so much respect and intellect about it like yours.
Mnisi or Mshololo should ask Ghininda, whether there’s still a chance to arrest Kelly Khumalo since in the current case she’s the alleged mastermind but not standing with the rest of the accused as accused number 6. He’s aware of the warrant of arrest, and why was it not signed???
Good afternoon Tribe, son Clan those who are against you are the ones who are infavour of Justice and we are not apologetic indeed we are watching a movie and miscourage of Justice period fight for justice son and we are praying for you kwaze kwaba buhlungu ukuba aseSouth Africa you become an enemy of people you don't even know just bcos you are in the side of Justice fear not God is in your side God of Justice iyeke izitha ze justice 💔💔💔💔
Thobela Clantis and the family...I was taken gobsmacked by Gininda's sudden jikijiki about h8s own utterances with s backup of that lady cop emailing the statement on Fr8day which Gininfa 8nsisted was in thr material submitted.
Don't pay any attention to the rude imdlwembe...Chai I felt that and I thank God I'm not that mdlwmbbe..Gininda and Baloyi are so annoying honestly ...must Gininda explain everything?,I'm do exhausted 😮😢😮
I wonder how will Ratha judge this case because he takes sides of the witness .He decides to intimmidate Mnisi by saying all sorts of things like ,no fights in court or disrespectful in order to make him to stop Mnisi to dig the answer from the Gininda He is not doing justice at all in that court.
URatha must be done with this we are sick and tired Ratha is not aware Gininda lies are catching up with him let's continue to pray Tribe we are not fools son Yazi labantu basiqeda ukukholwa kanti thina singabakubo kaNkosi Jesu 💔💔💔💔
I want to understand the issue of accused 4 going into the spaza house after accused 2 and 3 fled the scene on foot towards the park leaving accused 1 outside and accused 5 in the polo waiting to get away and at 8pm accused 2 when running out he smiled so bypassers could see his gold tooth? Which the doctor rcould not find traces of 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
😂😂😂 problem with you guys is you're advocate from TH-cam and TikTok 😅😅 misleading people.even Thabo bester he's much .. much better than these 5 lawyers 😅😅
Ramosepele gave Gininda a homework watch the day the same question is asked again to Gininda how Baloyi will twist the narrative .The home work was about the witnesses who were in the house their exact word on the type of a gun and guy with gold when he said he don't know what the witnesses said
😂😂😂😂😂Comprehension is not your fault son abantu a aphinde le ekoleni Mandela wathi a sifunde even oGogo get your Doctorate Haibonah go back to school and qinise kuyi incomprehension maths and physics not LO uyiphase ngoA+😂😂😂😂
The problem here is that defense is useless. Mnisi is the only one who has an idea of what a Legal representative ought to do. Romosepeli should go back to first year law school.
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Ramosepele has done a fantastic job in letting gininda furnish all the evidences he had prior to the accused confessions. If the evidence collected prior to the confessions was used to corroborate the confessions, it could indeed raise questions about the legality and validity of how those confessions were obtained. This is because:
1. **Pre-existing Evidence**: If investigators already had substantial evidence before obtaining the confessions, it might suggest that the confessions were not entirely voluntary but rather influenced by the existing evidence.
2. **Influence on Confessions**: The knowledge of pre-existing evidence could potentially influence the accused to confess, especially if they felt that the evidence against them was overwhelming.
3. **Legal Procedures**: Proper legal procedures must be followed when obtaining confessions to ensure they are admissible in court. Any deviation from these procedures can lead to the confessions being challenged.
In legal proceedings, the defense can argue that the confessions were obtained under questionable circumstances, which might lead to them being excluded from evidence. This is why the manner in which confessions are obtained is scrutinized closely in court.
Why are people who are willing to confess collected & taken to many places before going to the police station to write his own statement 🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️
U r dem right ❤
You nailed it hard on
Yes true ppl didn't understand Ramosepele's angle he got all the information out if Gininda
Hi Clantis. l loved Adv Mshololo's response when she said I don't believe until l have the document
Clan please focus on your good work forget about people who act like they don't see all the miscurage of justice in Rathas court room and it it totally disgusting really
A strong protest is needed here guys, we will keep talking yet nothing changes
Let's agree to disagree the current judge is having a favouritism or maybe he is scared of gininda
I wonder who honestly disagrees with that😢
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This tarven judge chooses what to lesson what favors him
Gininda said it is there and he was certain
I really appreciate your honesty working ethic please forget about those people who are trying spoil your good work.
Hi Clan u r 100% correct. Ramosepele did an excellent job,he opened the gate for Mgo, Mnisi, Nxumalo and a woman of AFRICA called Mshololo,he laid the foundation for them to poke deep holes as for LLB saying the father of the deceased that he said accuse No4 is involved in the murder of Meyiwa this damaged this case beyond recocgition worse his statements writters are all dead.Who is fooling who we are not kids
I saw Ratha's intention wasn't prepare to listen to Adv. Mnisi request. After said you must
not fight in the court of law. Siphume kunzima leso statement and was emailed to Baloyi last week. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🙄🙄 he's so cruel Baloyi I wonder if does have a chance to pray
Ohh yes Clantis Gininda wants everybody to treat him like a big man he thinks he is.
Dukusuku the statement is in the file and after saying they didn't hv they say it's O1 like whay the heck is that court a circuit?
Clantis the link between KK & and accused is only according to Steyn's records, not according to Vodacom.
Ratha is bought.
He came with th judgement and it is not going to change. Now tht its mnisiz time and other advocates ull c how he is going to disturb th deffenc.
Baloyi played Defence when they agreed for early adjournment and when he took the stand he changed😂😂😂😂😂
Brengadir Gininda need strong man like advocate mongomezulu or advocate Mnisi wemvula or advocate Nxumalo or advocate mshololo
No that letter we differ
I also gave up I didn’t watch anymore I had to deal with a double blow pain. I literally chose to be a 30 percenter😂😂😂on that letter video gave my own opinion different from yours with respect
You did give your opinion with respect and we've always respected each other. It's some people, Tshidi that I just don't get it they come at you with such disrespect and talk to you anyhow. I appreciated everyone that differed with me and there was so much respect and intellect about it like yours.
We are all adults, and will definitely differ in opinion. We here the same thing, but interpret it differently. ❤❤❤
Mnisi or Mshololo should ask Ghininda, whether there’s still a chance to arrest Kelly Khumalo since in the current case she’s the alleged mastermind but not standing with the rest of the accused as accused number 6. He’s aware of the warrant of arrest, and why was it not signed???
Good afternoon Tribe, son Clan those who are against you are the ones who are infavour of Justice and we are not apologetic indeed we are watching a movie and miscourage of Justice period fight for justice son and we are praying for you kwaze kwaba buhlungu ukuba aseSouth Africa you become an enemy of people you don't even know just bcos you are in the side of Justice fear not God is in your side God of Justice iyeke izitha ze justice 💔💔💔💔
Judge Ratha is sided with state and witness always and drag the defence
Thobela Clantis and the family...I was taken gobsmacked by Gininda's sudden jikijiki about h8s own utterances with s backup of that lady cop emailing the statement on Fr8day which Gininfa 8nsisted was in thr material submitted.
Don't pay any attention to the rude imdlwembe...Chai I felt that and I thank God I'm not that mdlwmbbe..Gininda and Baloyi are so annoying honestly ...must Gininda explain everything?,I'm do exhausted 😮😢😮
CD, I am waiting for Ratha to convict the Accused persons so that they go to the SCA where I believe they will win a d be acquited.
I agree with you this case must be appealed .Ratha must do what he wants to do and go home.
❤ u Clanti
Ratha is the main problem in this case. He is siding and colluding with the state, but he doesn't want people to say that.
Don't take personal bro
Love you Clan
I wonder how will Ratha judge this case because he takes sides of the witness .He decides to intimmidate Mnisi by saying all sorts of things like ,no fights in court or disrespectful in order to make him to stop Mnisi to dig the answer from the Gininda He is not doing justice at all in that court.
Even the judge ask gininda more then twice,r u sure about those evidence
URatha must be done with this we are sick and tired Ratha is not aware Gininda lies are catching up with him let's continue to pray Tribe we are not fools son Yazi labantu basiqeda ukukholwa kanti thina singabakubo kaNkosi Jesu 💔💔💔💔
Dear clantis people are so angry 😠 because of Rams disappointed them so don't take things personally.
Rams got lot of information out of Gininda I think defence said he must only do that because he is too soft n bulldozers will come n bulldoze Gininda
Clantis kuvele kwathi chifi kimi angphathike lapho uRata esethatha iside lakhe Ontanzi bazogwetshwa okubi ukuthi kuthulakele nogogo u Helen wabuza wathula athini amanye ma politicians? GNU iphi ?oRata naku bezicanasela
I want to understand the issue of accused 4 going into the spaza house after accused 2 and 3 fled the scene on foot towards the park leaving accused 1 outside and accused 5 in the polo waiting to get away and at 8pm accused 2 when running out he smiled so bypassers could see his gold tooth? Which the doctor rcould not find traces of 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Accused smiling to the bypassers at night, what a joke😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ntanzi smiled ....nice one
@@MazvitaAgushama yes bypassers saw gold tooth at night
@@tebogothobane6034 😅😅😅😅 their cooking is short of benny
😂😂😂 problem with you guys is you're advocate from TH-cam and TikTok 😅😅 misleading people.even Thabo bester he's much .. much better than these 5 lawyers 😅😅
Ramosepele gave Gininda a homework watch the day the same question is asked again to Gininda how Baloyi will twist the narrative .The home work was about the witnesses who were in the house their exact word on the type of a gun and guy with gold when he said he don't know what the witnesses said
😂😂😂😂😂Comprehension is not your fault son abantu a aphinde le ekoleni Mandela wathi a sifunde even oGogo get your Doctorate Haibonah go back to school and qinise kuyi incomprehension maths and physics not LO uyiphase ngoA+😂😂😂😂
The problem here is that defense is useless. Mnisi is the only one who has an idea of what a Legal representative ought to do. Romosepeli should go back to first year law school.
Ramosepele is the weakest link, he is busy there complementing state witnesses