What's a Chordioid?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- I'm taking a step outside of the kind of video I usually make this time to talk about a subject that I've seen very little info on online: Chordioids. That is, three note chords that don't fit neatly into our typical tertiary harmonic model. I'm almost positive that the term 'chordioid' means something completely different than how I use it here, but the little that I found online on the term was extremely vague and I wanted one nice word that I could use for the video. Hopefully I didn't ruffle your music-theory-terminology jimmies.
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1:11
"A chordioid, according to wikipedia..."
Me, an intelectual:
"A chordioid, achordioiding to wikipedia..."
Nareth Erakian lol
wikipordioid
Good one bro
"Chordioids, from Wikipedia: The Free Encycopedia, at en.wikipedia.org."
@SQ38 You gotta click the bell.
Chordioids a.k.a: When you just press keys and create a cool sound that's just too cool for the system
Very fitting pfp haha
I never understand about 70% of what's explained on these videos but I still watch them all.
what a fucken 𝘮𝘰𝘰𝘥
This was me when I started watching this channel, I have now advanced beyond the horizon and transcend all knowledge, having watched this channel since the beginning.
@@willwallz Same for me :D
Same here
omg me
Bill Wurtz vibes from the “let’s talk about chordioids!” fanfare lmao awesome
also brian david gilbert in the text formatting
th-cam.com/video/Mh5LY4Mz15o/w-d-xo.html
Very Wurtzian, yes. Honestly, I want more.
was about to comment on that, it brings me joy to see a great youtuber acknowledging another great youtuber
I miss billy :(
The Animal Crossing daily BGM is such a great example of stripping away elements from a piece until you're only left with the stuff that is truly effective! Never heard of a chordioid before... but I dig it. Sounds like a name for an Animal Crossing gyroid!
Damn, I kinda want to dive into Animal Crossing now!
That's an interesting way of looking at music. "Stripping elements to only keep the most powerful"... kinda reminds of it's game-design counterpart "Design by subtraction", that was used in games like Ico or Shadow of the Colossus... That's inspiring !
omg its carlos :O
seeing a comment from insaneintherainmusic under an 8-bit music theory video is like witnessing a meeting of the minds
"Most disgusting polychords"
IT'S CALLED SPICE
Thank you for doing something like music theory minute but longer. It seems like a lot of people were wishing for it.
I was!
Brock Brown agree
This is my favorite kind of content from this channel!
"A G over C, which really gives a G over C sound" 0_0 ...
"A fried chicken, which really gives a fried chicken flavor"
it was way funnier in my head
dont worry, i understand what you mean xD
Ah yes, the floor is made of floor..
did you know that it tastes like chicken tho?
_"Chord symbols are meant to be an abstract tool for analyzing music..."_
...Yeah, I'm glad you said that. In my own composition, I've developed a _very_ bad habit - I keep trying to compose from chord symbols/progressions, and it honestly doesn't make for good music, by which I mean it doesn't really work for me and/or I'm misapplying it. My older - and better - works, started from a bass line, embellished with a melody, and then filled out pragmatically with harmony. Done properly, it just sort of 'fits' and works.
I've gotten too formal for my own good. Music theory 101: They [Music theory rules] are more like _guidelines..._
Yes, it's better to have a base and to not get too specific because it limits your creativity. You have to find the right balance between structure and freedom
I’ve been there before. The way through is to master chord symbols in my opinion. Have you studied part-writing?
Schoenberg said to write your sketches with all voices at once without regard for meter or bar lines. Of course you can’t imagine 4-5 voices at once, Schoenberg claimed only a few might imagine more than 2 at the same time. But what he means is don’t write out 32 bars of melody and then write something around it. Write 4 notes of melody and then hear what the accompaniment does and write that down and move
on.
Another way is to not think in terms of chords but in terms of motifs and phrases. So lets say you have a bassline that jumps from A to E F and C. You can think of that as a motif that can be treated as a building block instead of it just being the roots of a chord progression.
You can make a sequence out of it, A E F C ➡️ B F# G D ➡️ C# G# A E.
You can invert the intervals,
A D C# F#
reverse them
D F E A
Augment the intervals
A F Ab Eb
reduce in a progression
A E F C E F C F C C
And when you have other motifs you can combine them and their variations giving you virtually unlimited creativity while keeping some internal consistency.
Yes! A few friends and I have been exploring the partimento tradition/pedagogy lately. Now realizing there's a fundamental paradigmatic difference between modern pedagogy/theory/analysis and how the composers the western canon admires actually made music. a side effect of the modern curriculum/pedagogy (with "functional harmony" near its foundation!) is that we tend to think notes come from chords (thinking too vertically) when in fact it seems the early player/improvisor/composers were thinking/playing/learning horizontal (voices, melodies) first... the vertical (chords) were a result of the horizontal (melody, good voice-leading), not vice versa!
Learn voice leading.
*"Don't play the butter notes!"*
JaZz
Is this a quote?
@@syweb2 Yeah, Miles Davis. Although Herbie Hancock says that he probably misheard him and he more likely said "bottom notes" i.e. stay out of the bass player's way
So these 'chordiods' are what the cool cats are calling 'implied harmony' now?
You mean Diminished Thirds right?
Sorry, "augmented seconds".
Implied harmony isn't the same exact thing. Sometimes adding the third and/or fifth ruins the piece. Thats like people who try to force functional harmony in early baroque music. It can sound good, but you're giving the music an entirely different emotion.
I don't think thats the point of the video. "Implied Harmony" just removes notes that are already in resonance or other instruments to not over-lushify the chord. Chordiods are more about intentionally not commiting to a chord.
@@thomasrosebrough9062 that's not what implied harmony is though. Ôo
Me: "I've taken several years of music lessons, play 3 instruments, and regularly make my own music."
Me, after watching this video: "I am but a child in a world of musical gods and deities"
Me: "I've taken no music theory, I play 2 and a half instruments, I haven't even memorized notes and chords, and I've only changed music so I can play it on a guitar."
Me after watching this video: "I've taken no music theory, I play 2 and a half instruments, I haven't even memorized notes and chords, and I've only changed music so I can play it on a guitar."
Live and learn
1PM = gymnopedie wtf
Snowy reminds me of the weird chords in Wonderful Christmastime
so many songs use that chord progression, it's so beautiful
My favorite piece as well as favorite christmas song :D
I am floored...
I knew that I was severely limited in my understanding, but not appreciation of music, that this concept sounds so familiar but is completely beyond what I understand at all.
Im a total novice, but the fact that this technical information is told with such passion and demonstration, speaks volumes to the crafting of this video.
This is an instant subscription from me... this is all so fascinating...
Please make more videos about the music from Undertale. There's so much going on in that soundtrack that I don't understand, but I want to understand it, and you understand how music works so well, and you're very good at explaining things and making them both educational and fun.
That feel when you hit 8:43 of the video and say "Nice" out loud to your computer monitor
music man: *talks in music*
me, someone who has no experience and music and doesn't know what's going on: yes
Relatable, have a nice day.
Me: of course I understand everything. You’re talking about chemicals, right?
Yeah that basically sums it up lmao
Chordioids are my favourite kind of gyroid in animal crossing
I love that despite knowing literally nothing about music theory i can somehow still follow along with this 😂
Ari
This goes even _beyond_ jazz.
Nani?!?!?
Not going to lie, this is extremely interesting.
this is because the theory of jazz-harmonics is actually fairly limited. it´s more a system to label groups of pitch-classes than an interpretation of their function in a given context. as an example: Why are major 7th chords "stable" tonics despite including a clearly dissonant intervall, the 7th? why is c-e-g-b-d usually a C79 and not a g-minor +11+14?
this does not go beyond jazz, this goes beyond standard chord symbol theory, which is how most people process straight ahead jazz harmony. listen to some modern jazz and i’m sure u will find chordiods
@@Lagiacrusguy1 i could notate it in basso continuo without any problems at all.
I felt Bill Wurtz vibes on "Let's talk about chordioid"
but overall, that was a really neat and interesting concept
and I hope you enjoy MAGfest West, 8-bit
I’ve been writing a piece of music FILLED with chordioids, without knowing what they’re called or why I like them so much, then this video comes out. So serendipitous.
10:50 "It's a technique that's advanced not in its complexity, but in its precision." What an absolutely brilliant summary of why omitting notes from chords can be so incredibly effective and requires such care to do right.
As I've watched a lot of your new videos, I've also delved back into your older stuff like this, and both are such a pleasure to watch - bravo!
I find using experimental methods within a conventional framework works the best when exploring these ideas. Like how Mahler played with tonality a lot but used to spice things up not necessarily designing a composition around atonality like Schoenberg would later do. It’s a huge reason why video game music is appealing because you can use experimental ideas within a conventional form.
Great video as always though!
As a chord symbol addict, I appreciate this new toolset
6:38 It could also come from the miyako-bushi japanese scale which also has notes from the phrygian mode.
I don't know why I'm here. I can't even read sheet music let alone music theory, but I love hearing about this stuff.
It would be fun if you take piano lessons,
"so, this is C?"
"Yes, you see, the whites are the notes of the C scale, and if you want to do a C major you can play the E, which is the third, and the G, as the fifth, but it's a bit complicated for now so..."
"And what if I drop the third, diminish the second, add the sixth but only in the second time in the arpeggio, while playing a melody implying the E and the E flat, using the fifth as a gap, do you think it's a modulation by using chordioid ?"
"Ah, euhm, no, but, euhm, Hey see, if I play those two notes it's the begining of Für Elise ! Ah ah, euhm..."
Never noticed it before, but that second chord in Snowy (starts around 4:15) really invokes Chrono Trigger in my mind (probably intentionally). It's a very similar progression to Secret of the Forest, but it also reminds me of the crunchy chords in the Epoch theme.
And that ties in really nicely to your video on Non-Functional Harmony (th-cam.com/video/5zGqN1ZOEJQ/w-d-xo.html). In many cases, chordioids seem like another way to apply non-functional harmony, but with a different "color" to the sound.
The Norfair example is really interesting, but I actually hear a different chord, rooted on the E-flat and D-flat, instead of the D and C. It definitely fits your definition of a chordioid, but to my ears, it sounds like E-flat sus4 maj7 (omit5), and then the corresponding whole step down. The harmonic function (or lack thereof) doesn't really change, but I thought it was interesting how my ears hear it differently. Basing those chords on the half-step at the bottom makes it especially tough for my ears to decipher, which adds to the unsettling mood (which is perfect for the atmosphere of the game).
Cool video. I've always loved how VG composers use non-traditional chords exactly like these. Thanks!
It’s probably because Toby used the chronotrigger sound font on that song
"Chordioid" sounds like something an incel would call a girl who's into music theory
Sounds like an organ to me. The body sort of organ. Not the instrument sort of organ.
Shut up, chordiot.
Skin Lizard Oh my god
It kinda reminds of vocaloid.
it reminds me of the shape cardioid
8-but Music Theory+Undertale? Yes, please!
Chordiods redux: Take a dissonant scale degree and stick it in the bass.
PAUL CHAMBERS HAS ENTERED THE CHAT
This is something I've heard a lot in old school drum & bass from the 90s.
Interesting, well-edited, compelling, beautiful. And that’s just the man who produced it.
Alright...I gotta know what the trombonist and the camel clip is all about, and who they are.
At first I thought it was from one of Camel's weirder concerts, but it's actually Stockhausen: th-cam.com/video/PcmxwOeVMDc/w-d-xo.html
I'm really glad to see someone do a video on this. This has always interested me, especially the chords in Snowy, which have always intrigued me. I really like your channel, and I hope you keep making videos for a long time!
OH MY GOODNESS THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED RIGHT NOW
The chordioid in 2:43 is a chord found in Ryukyu (Okinawa) traditional music. D should suit better than E.
I will publish the harmony theory book about traditional Japanese music soon, so read it if you are interested....
Dude you're right. It's so fascinating to have discovered those scales this month, it changed my view on music entirely since it explains how I actually hear music. I've never identified myself with the western system. I too plan to launch something explaining japanese music theory in the future since I've come to understand a lot of it and I'll continue to explore it. Good luck on your book!
I really like this format of video, focusing on a topic in music and drawing from video games for examples
Thank you for including the example sheet! It's been so much fun to play around with. I always come to your channel in search of compositional ideas and inspiration for new projects, and your upbeat attitude and clean clear way of explaining things (with rock solid analysis) makes it so easy to digest and I always leave full of new ideas. Thank you so much 8-bit MT!
As a non musical person, holy hell the technicalities in this video. Also as a non musical person, OH I LOVE THIS PAR OF THE SONG!
Have fun at MAGWest. :) Thanks as always for a fascinating and informative video!
The way I was taught about these type of chords is based on an interval found inside them. For example, the chord you mentioned in Metroid was a perfect fourth with a half step above the root. My professor organizes these chords first by the interval (perfect fourth) and then by placing a whole step or half step below or above each note. So Bb, C, F is a #1 chord as it has a whole step below the C. B, C, F is a #2 chord because it has a half step below the C. The numbers just keep going up until you have all 8 chords. The Metroid chord would be a #3 (half step above bottom note). There are a lot of interesting colors to get out of these chords, and they can also be based on other intervals, such as perfect 5ths, and major and minor thirds.
Hey! Your teacher's system is super useful. What's his name? Has he written anything else on chord symbols?
@@pabloansonmusic that was from pianist Armen Donelian. He has several books out on ear training, but as I just took class with him, I'm unsure what exactly each book covers.
@@Mr69applez Hey, thanks a lot. I didn't know about this pianist and he seems to be quite popular in the ear training circles. He even gave a seminar at my uni (MDW) :) Cool, thanks again!
I love your videos to bits and pieces, dude. I'm taking an AP music theory class currently and I like all these examples and how I can apply some of the things I'm familiar with and still learn something new with these videos. If there's one suggestion I could make is that you provide examples of what the chords sound like when talking about them in theory, like the way you added the third into 1pm for Animal crossing. It really helps people understand your music jargon and the wonderful points you make about the properties we love.
Thank you for doing what you do!
This was really fun to watch! I've been finally starting to learn music theory after all these years and it's crazy how endless the possibilities are.
You really break things down into very understandable bite sized pieces - looking forward to more!
Instrument Maniac??? :OOO
These videos are soooo good. Thanks for spreading all your music theory knowledge to us newbies :D
hey glitch wizard haha
5:25
There actually _is_ a notation system that would work well here, though it wasn't designed with this function in mind.
12-Tone notation can be used to indicate either the notes in the scale above the tonic or (more usefully IMO) the lattice of intervals above the root.
If we go by more conventional Serialist notiation and assume the tonal center is C:
0, 7, E/0,9,E/E,6,9/E,4,9 (E = 11; it's a hold-over from when they had to hand-write this stuff.
If we use the method I prefer, and count the number of half-steps above the previous note:
C-7-4/C-9-2/B-6-3/B-5-5
While their notation methods are extremely helpful, I'm pretty sure it was held back by the fact that the music it was used to write is deeply unpleasant to the average person's tastes.
EDIT: Cleared out a buch of extra spacing.
I, too, prefer using *integer notation* and *set theory* for such chordioid sets, although I prefer it somewhat different from your system; I count all the half-steps from the root: e.g. C-7-11, C-9-11, B-6-9, B-4-9 and so on and so forth, also avoiding E for 11, since it could be easily confused with the letter name of the note Mi.
Question: How do you write italics in TH-cam?
@@Michail_Chatziasemidis _Underscores_ instead of *astsrisks.*
i'd so appreciate you doing more on this, especially because this music is SO underused for how great it is, and there's so little talk about it on the internet. Examples of how to analyze it would really help me understand it and incorporate it into my own music :) good content as always
As someone who makes music yet can't read a music sheet for the life of me, your videos are SUPER cool since you give more practical explanations of these, AND also open me up to learn stuff I otherwise wouldn't be able to really understand at all. Thanks for your cool videos. :D
oh dang I use these all the time on my 3-string cigar box guitar. Never knew they had a name!
Thanks for this video! When I was first starting out, I did a lot of this kind of thing because it sounded good to me, but as I learned more theory I came to think of it as "bad" because they weren't tertian chords, and I've been trying to rediscover it because now a lot of my stuff sounds kinda bland and boring. I always called it "scalar composition" (using intervals from the scale as a whole) as opposed to "chordal composition" based around a tertian progression where the current chord informs most of the notes I choose. Now a smart youtube person has legitimized the thing I like to do!
This was nice seeing you emphasize the importance of the sounds themselves, while still going into the analysis as expected.
I think its amazing how many combinations of chordioids we could make. I am obsessed with harmonies and I think this is a neat observation to keep in mind for any new songs. Never heard of the term chordioid, but because it connected so much to harmonies, I enjoyed hearing about it. Cool stuff!
This kind of stuff is why I think you should do another multi-part video like the botw one, but for undertale.
I’ve always loved the Perplexing Pool theme - never realized it was so harmonically complex!
Man. This was by far the most interesting video I saw in a while. Congrats from brazil. Keep up the outstanding work.
I love watching your videos because we seem to come from similar educational backgrounds and have had similar realizations about music with more analysis of music outside the jazz idiom. I remember learning a tune of my teacher’s called “Theme for Malcolm” which has a lot of triads shifting around at the end, like Eb/F, etc. But one was G# C# D# over A, which is kinda Lydian, but it’s really more like the chordiods you talke about in your video.
I remember adding some notes to some of his compositions at the time and he would tell me that those extra notes weren’t part of the sound he had in mind, sometimes he just wanted a simple triad, like G/C, with no E in the chord. I didn’t quite get it at the time, but learning a lot of rock/pop and composing since I’ve graduated has given me a new appreciation for thinner textures like the ones you talk about here.
Incidentally, my teacher loves using the 1 b2 4 voicing that you mentioned in the Metroid example a lot. He even does a similar thing of sliding it around in whole or half steps. I think it may be a Herbie thing? Anyway, thanks so much for your videos, it’s fun for me to watch ‘cause I feel we’re on similar wavelengths. Have a great day, and keep doing what you’re doing!
smh for not having Debussy, Ravel, or Bill Evans (!!!) as purple links
Relevant xkcd: 1051.
Cookies are cleaned maybe
its a flex he already knows everything about them
this comment and replies would make zero sense to people without computer knowledge lmao
*"let's talk about chordioids!"*
me, who literally just jumped up and shouted in a quiet room: *DID THEY JUST DO THE BILL WURTZ THING????*
THEY JUST DID THE BILL WURTZ THING
I Don't understand a word of the theory you talk about, but when you point out something neat and focus on it, its fantastic to listen to.
It's genuinely great to see such a specific concept such as Chordioids being brought up when it often isn't, it's true that there's the tendencies in harmony to add more and more on top of chords creating heavy handed chord progression, that could be much richer in sound if they dropped the pretense.
#FriskForSmash #FriskForSmash
I really love watching your videos, even if I barely have any idea what you're talking about most of the time.
I'd love to see a whole video dedicated to the music in Undertale!
Wow, after a master in jazz, I never thought I'd learn so much about harmony from one of your video. I DID happend to come on such situations where the third doesn't fit in the chord and never really knew how to approach them. Again. awesome awesome awesome content as usual ! Love from Montreal !
I find this channel very interesting since it gives a name to the various techniques I've been naturally using in my compositions. I've never studied music theory so I know absolutely none of the vocabulary. I've just used previously nameless techniques from other people's writing in my own and so once I come across these videos explaining what these techniques are called, I can look deeper into it on my own to find new ways to implement those techniques outside of what I'm already using.
a work sheet! ooh ooh, thanks very much
I like homework when it's given to me by a youtuber person yay
I’m a simple girl: I see the word “chordioid” and my brain immediately tells me it’s a portmanteau of chord and cardioid, both of which I happen to find intriguing
What would I do without you and your wonderful videos that keep reminding me in a daily life devoid of musical richness (or diversity/complexity, for that matter) that my heart deeply resonates when it comes to interesting chords and talk about them. I never played a pikmin game but once you tuned into that track, my nerves got sensitive. When you played those "wild chords" (around 10:00) which I have a hard time cognitively making sense of (by music theory logic), my nerves where tingling and I felt low-key excited. It's really hard to explain, there's tension and sense of wonder when it comes to hearing those tone "compositions" in their full ensemble while it's a less intense but different excitement when I listen to the song that has them split up by time and space (instrument). I feel this weird fascination when it comes to these more logically complex (? or unusual) chords normal folks never learn anything about (I'm glad I understand the tonic dominant subdominant relation but thats about it).. how I wish I could have learned this instead of "higher" math in school
This is the exact information I needed to make sense of chords and harmony. I've had this rigid way of thinking about it, where chords have their instrument, say, a piano for example, and chords go there, the bass and melody are separate and mostly do their own thing, while refering back to the chords occasionally. It never even occured to me that chords could be spilt across instruments. Realizing that chords don't need to be defined so rigidly in a piece and they can be 'embedded' into the composition cleared up a TON of my confusion regarding harmony. N I C E.
I still don't know anything about music theory, but it sounds neat.
When I make music it's literally just "hey i like how these notes sound lets do that". Especially when it comes to jazzy type stuff if you asked me what my chords were from a song I probably couldn't tell you. like if I looked over a recording of what I was playing i could be like "oh yeah it was that" but it'd take me thought to figure out what chord it was.
I will definitely rewatch this video since it comes really handy, besides, you sound like you're smiling while talking and it just makes me happy
I've started analyzing music a few weeks ago, and I couldn't understand why there were so many chords without a 5th or a 3rd in my analysis. Like so many times these last few weeks, I'm happy to know what my problem is through your videos, so thank you for helping me getting better at howthemusiciswork-ing :D
To address the confusion about the term "chordioid" (as in the video description): from a strictly etymologic point of view, the -oid suffix derives from ancient greek (-oeidēs), which combined with the root of the word would end up meaning "that which resembles a chord".
Is it used correctly though? Eh, I guess it depends on whether you actually consider a chordioid a type of chord or not, so it's kind of subjective.
Being a Greek, I was at first intrigued by the name "Chordioid". I said to myself: "what can resemble a chord, but isn't a chord?" In the end, such chordioids are considered chords in my theory textbooks.
In Greek, Chordioid could be translated as "συγχορδιοειδές".
Me: I want a D in top of this note, but an Eb sounds cool too...
Wait...
Why not both?
*chordioid unlocked*
I don't think that'd sound that great...
Not only am I so glad you talked about chordioids because I love quartal Harmony and sometimes I NEED to write music without the third, but I’m so glad you talked about Undertale and a brief hint at The Who. Townshend’s playing style is full of this stuff!
love this video! also stoked to see you at magwest!
Any one else? Every time I hear "1 PM" my mind starts singing "Girl from Iponema."
Definitely thought the same thing haha!
Because of the bossa Nova rhythm. Mii channel music is similar
Ipanema
How did those two people comment like 17-ish hours ago? Did they anticipate time travel?
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@@StrixLuke ah, makes sense
This is so cool, I've been playing a lot more piano lately and it's really ignited my understanding of chord voicings. Combined with my love of video game music (Especially Toby Fox) this makes for a particularly fascinating video. Thank you so much for expanding my music theory knowledge!!
This is such and awesome video thank you. Really shows the ingenuity of those old 8 bit songs on retro games and how you can envoke tones and atmosphere with limited resources
Question:
How are you able to find all of these different video game music examples for all these different topics? I would be very interested to learn how you discover these unique music techniques “in the wild”
Listen and write.-
7:04 S U S
8:35 even more S U S
8:44 F U N N Y
9:38 sussy baka
9:56 Ok, now thats actually funny
Conclusion: my humor = trash bin...
I've often found some of these videos interesting but, a little ... not hard to follow, but hard to understand how you get from the explanation to the utility, and there was one sentence in this one which suddenly explained to me why I was having trouble. The part where you say you tend to compose from a chord number-first sort of perspective is super interesting to me.
It's obviously totally valid (everything is) but it's SO different to how I work. I can now understand why you would find it useful to think about things in terms of, say, chordioids to break out of roman numeral thinking. But the way I work is largely rooted in melodicism - most of what I do, even when building harmonies is to think of them as layering separate (but often interdependent) lines on top of one another, and from there the harmonies I want emerge - and later I can go back and analyse and think 'Okay, this is 2nd inversion I, this is a secondary dominant V/iii or whatever it happens to be. I haven't checked specifically but I'm *sure* that lots of chordioids slip into my work because I'm not really thinking about filling out harmonies as much as I'm thinking about 'where does this line need to go that would help the piece'
Must stress my intention is not to be critical of your approach, at all, but I find it super fascinating how we land at the same technique via such different thought processes :)
I'm so happy I found this channel. You rock and you bet I'm going to share this.
What makes the chords in Norfair 1 b2 4 voicings rather than maj7 voicings?
3:48 Who would’ve known one of the least popular Undertale songs would have been this useful! Lol.
I love that song lol
Why is it not popular? It's in my top 5 favorite Undertale songs
Sarah Smith Eh.. in my opinion it could have been more atmospheric.
@@TheAdvertisement highly subjective claim. i dont doubt many people would disagree with you, myself included. dont be so quick to say "least popular"
G.B. POOKY But it is? It’s barely ever mentioned and like you said most people would agree with me. I’m not saying it’s a horrible song, that’s a degrading opinion, I’m saying it’s one of the least popular, which is a statistical fact.
I love these videos because I understand just enough to be wowed but not enough that pausing and thinking is necessary.
I love your videos because I never have any idea what you're talking about but it's extremely interesting
"let’s talk about chordioids!"
Wait a min......
"HOW ABOUT SUNRISE LAND!!!! (Bill W. history of japan)
*i see what u did there..... AND I LOVE IT ! *
May I offer an argument on your Metroid example:
For the chordioid you picked at 6:54, I hear it as a D-flat major seventh chord (minus five) with the seventh moved to the bottom. In my opinion, the chord sounds too centered towards D-flat to be interpreted as one with root note C.
To my more classically-inclined ears, it sounds like the whole passage is planing between E-flat major, D-flat major and G-flat major, all with added major sevenths as the bass note.
Regardless of how one interprets these chord(ioid)s, what 8-bit talks about here is absolutely true. The current system of chord symbols can limit the countless possibilities of tonal music, and it's important for us musicians to think outside the box, and be open to discovering new ways to express music.
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The current system doesn't do anything wrong, you're just using the wrong chord symbols. Just be specific.
I was going to say something similar about Perplexing Pool, at around 8:50. In absence of the melody, I'd have said that was a C7 chord in third inversion, with the flat seven. But as he said, the melody recontextualizes the chord(ioid).
This man trying to redefine how we write music 5:45 and that's why I love this channel. Super forward thinking yet straight forward for someone with little to no background in theory
As someone who is currently pursuing a music major, you do a fantastic job explaining the in's and out's of the different fascets of music theory. I often come to these videos to gain a better understanding of the material, and I always come out more appreciative and knowledged of the subject. Love your videos!
How's that music major going? :)
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My jimmies are thoroughly ruffled.
But mostly because I don't really know any music theory.
Or what 'jimmies are'.
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One of my favorite things in music is to hear one sequence of notes repeated numerous times, as another series of notes revolves around it, molding it into different chords through context. (Very basic example: One Note Samba.)
One of the techniques you described here sounds like an advanced version of that technique, using context to mold the harmony. I'm happy you called my attention to it. I may not be an advanced enough musician to analyze songs the way you do, but you can bet I'll be listening carefully for these things as I play through Undertale. :)
My god this explains so much. I’ve heard so many chords in songs and when I try to replicate them sometimes it just sounds wrong. Thanks to this video I’m gonna be looking out for chordioids next time I try to copy a chord. Thank you my friend :)
So, to make things terribly simplistic, a chordioid is a chord that omits the 3rd, 5th and/or 7th of chord?
Seems fun, being someone with no music background at all, this all sounds more like my sometimes hobby of messing around with the piano app on my phone to make weird yet interesting sounds
I never understand about 70% of what's explained on these videos but I actually do not speak english.
Thank you again for what you do best. Though I am not pursuing music, I love learning more about how people compose and create lovely melodies.
just wanted to thank you because your videos helped me pass my AP music theory exam
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