The biggest thing from the packers game: Rashan Gary single-handedly won that game for GB. Man was a monster of the edge. He probably heard ppl ranking him too low after the ACL
@@33_milly93 there were years, but it wasn’t because the coaching was great, it’s because we played bad offenses. In 2020 and 2022 we had a good D but only against terrible offenses
I agree with you about the Lions. Feels like they tried to skip a step I the process of building a championship contender. Last season they got to relevance, the next step is making sure the full roster is packed with above average players and become a team that makes the playoffs somewhat easily year after year. Trying to take a roster that just got above the line of being bad and signing some vets and making draft picks at low value position is a way to set yourself back. Which was the point of being critical of their draft, it's not about this season its about the next 10. They got good players but if they continue with that strategy it's a sure way back to the bottom. You need your average performance and results to be good over a long period of time and maybe there's one year where you push really hard and don't worry so much about the future but you do that later on. Fun team though, I enjoy them
Their last 2 drafts have been well regarded but I think they've been very questionable. As a Vikes fan, some fans were wild about Kwesi's inter-division trades with the Lions and Packers and giving away Jameson Williams and Christian Watson, but both have struggled to produce so far. The Lions could have stayed where they were and drafted Breece Hall, Christian Watson and promising Browns CB Martin Emerson at 32, 34 and 66. (Similarly the Packers could have stayed and drafted George Pickens & OLB Drake Jackson or Safety Brian Cook) This year the Lions already had two effective RBs (as Swift has shown at the Eagles) and could have moved up for Richardson in a franchise changing move, or added Jalen Carter to help out Hutchinson, and added Myles Murphy , Brian Bresee, Nolan Smith to really bolster that D line, or Deonte Banks at CB, or JSN or Addison. As a Vikes fan I was thrilled on draft day when the Lions passed up on all those opportunities to make potentially franchise changing moves, and now it looks like they've missed their prime drafting window...
A little late, but as a Tennessee Vols fan, the 2014 depth chart will always amaze me. Justin Worley (who didn't even make a practice squad iirc) won the job after a hard fought battle with Nathan Peterman (yes, THAT Peterman) Early in the season, they both got hurt, and the 3rd stringer who they quickly decided was distant behind those two, was Josh Dobbs. So Dobbs got his chance, and they couldn't take him off the field. He was always holding the ball but man, did that dude make some plays. I wonder if Dobbs may just be the worst practice QB of all time, cause whenever he's eluding defenders and playing streetball he's magical
It feels like the Jets have gone so all in on Rodgers that after he got hurt they just said "Welp let's try again next year" even though they could have been a playoff team if they went and traded for someone like Jacoby Brissett
Strangely, no one talks about how bad Rodgers looked in those 4 snaps (5 if you count the Achilles) - basically being sacked 3 times and a handoff. Rodgers form looked in decline in 2022 as well. None of Rodgers posse have added any value either - Lazard, Cobb, Hackett... From the outside it looks like they'll have to start over.
@@noahduvall4962 Did you not see how slow he was? He looked bad in 2022 as well. And now he will be even older and coming off a significant injury. Yes, I'm just speaking...facts.
Or Dobbs. Or possibly their greatest missed opportunity, Trey Lance! But there's another guy that teams refuse to touch & I find this to be a Perfect Summary of American culture. Colin Kaepernick. He claims he called the team. No one owns his contract. It would have cost them an airline ticket & maybe some for staying at a hotel just to _look_ at him. *No one* would? They can write "End Racism" all over every helmet & end zone forever & their actions will always speak louder than their words.
TFG I will like because I respect you and love the work you do....I cannot handle any more jets talk this year and on behalf of that sorry team I am sorru
When your pass rush is eliminated by the offense getting 6 hands on Hutch, and your secondary looking anemic after a few injuries, really puts a microscope on the picks used in this draft. Gibbs is cool, but there were much more pressing needs
A couple thoughts on the discussion involving the Commanders in this podcast. 1. I don't know if I agree that Jack Del Rio was really running Ron Rivera's scheme. I don't know the exact relationship, but I always got the impression from the beat reporters that Del Rio was given the authority to run what he wanted. I am very surprised by how bad the defense has been. I thought we would be better. In two of the first three years of the Rivera regime, the defense was top borderline top 5 statistically. Its my understanding that the coaching staff and defensive players are also surprised by how bad they have been which is at the very bottom of the league. From a very big picture perspective the problem came down to Del Rio was running a bend but don't break scheme, but we were lead the league in big plays given up. If you are going to play a bend but don't break defense and be decent you have to be one of the best teams in the league at limiting bad plays. Why was there a spike in big plays given up this year? There is no single reason, its a lot of things adding up. 1) More breakdown in coverages last year (despite losing William Jackson who busted a lot of coverages in the 5 games he played in the zone match scheme). Some of the coverage breakdowns come down to zone match being a bit more complicated and needing more communication than other schemes. 2) Bad technique in the secondary--Kendall Fuller is a good consistent technician, but both Emmanuel Forbes and Benjamin St. Juste have struggled with their technique often trusting their instinct they playing the coverage as designed. Their was a TD against the Bears where BSJ had safety help inside and needed to maintain outside leverage, DJ Moore started running a slant and St. Juste tried to take away that slant but gave up his outside leverage. Route ended up being a slant and go and St. Juste got beat for a TD. Both Forbes and St. Juste have given up big plays where they trusted their instincts too much. The young safety Percy Butler (who became a starter after Derrick Forrest suffered an injury early in the year) has been up and down. He has some outstanding plays this year, but he also has had a lot of plays where he gave up big plays by not playing his assignment how it was supposed to be played. 3) Some bad designs--the Bears commented on how a few times the Commanders tried to disguise their coverage by not aligning pre-snap, but that it put them at a disadvantage after the snap when the defenders did not have good leverage on the receivers. 4) Too vanilla with the defensive fronts. The secondary ran a fairly complicated zone match scheme, but the D-Line was very much on the vanilla side. We have tended to get pressures when our D-Linemen win matchups rather than schemeing pressures by moving guys around and stunting.
Keep in mind the Lions did play 3 games in 11 days and had a brawl with the bears on Sunday… this team was never a Philly or San Francisco maybe not even a Dallas but when they play their best they can beat anyone anytime. I do agree with you on the draft takes/offseason… this team needs to do something and it’s gonna be harder to get those top tier talent d-linemen and Corner and good this draft is pretty good and I do think they are gonna roll with Goff and make prove to them that he’s the guy they want to extend. I feel like if anything on this offense takes a dip that he might take a big dip as well.
Jets going with Boyle had starting Nathan Peterman over Tyrod energy. Yeah you want things to be better, but they can always be much worse. Nate-dog is a hack
Jordan still owns the Lions defense. Never been held under 20. Even on that awful week 4 game THIS is how Jordan looks when his WRs don't turn into MVS on him Also can confirm MLF said the night before he called Jordan and said he wanted to change the first play. Jordan said no, we are sending him deep, he will catch it I trust him And the rest is history
Agreed on your Lions floor and ceiling takes. Lions look at culture over anything it seems. If you don’t fit you out. Then they take the highest talented guys with the culture fit. Right or wrong that’s what they gonna do. Time will tell if it works.
Yeah losing Phillips is for sure a huge loss for the Fins. I was sad to see it. As far as Tua, he has got to clean up theses turn overs. Hopefully we'll see that before the true meat of the schedule comes up here at the end of the season. Plus my opinion on Kyle v Mike on who is a better offensive mind in the NFL. I believe its like 1A and 1B. Both are amazing. That is splitting hairs. Anyway awesome video. Love hearing your thoughts.😎 Fins up!😀
The Jets COULDN'T put in Zach Wilson for the hail Mary. They demoted him to 3rd EMERGENCY QB so Boyle and Semien would both have to be incapacitated for Wilson to go in 😂
I've always like Jack del Rio as well , can't defend what he's put on the field this year though. Playing the Washington redskinned football team commanders has become a free week to rack up a lot of offensive stats.
I mentioned this a few times around after the Niners game. Unless Pete pulls a rabbit out of his ass and *rapidly* turns this ship around, the Seahawks will never win a Super Bowl so long as he’s the head coach, and I think him and both coordinators need to go if the horrific amounts of penalties and even worse play in situational football costs this team a playoff spot
I think what would be best for Seattle at this point would be for Pete Carroll to retire. He clearly doesn’t have it anymore from a schematic standpoint.
The hawks don't have a super bowl level roster but it is close. Unfortunately even if we build a Superbowl roster, I will have no faith in our coaches to use that roster well
Why does the jets offense seem exactly like the last few packers teams. One elite Receiver, a good running back, and Oline that should be good but is often injured, and Aaron Rodgers. Part of me wonders if the lack of weapons the packers had recently was because Aaron didn’t want anyone other than the people he liked.
We already know that's the case, he didnt want the rookie playing at all, he wanted Lazard, Adams, mvs, tonyan, then cobb He refused to target Christian until they ran out of people
Honestly how can Ron Rivera look his defense and team in the eye after Jack gets fired, he needs to go down with the ship he should’ve gotten fired before any other coach on the staff did
Paris is still a better prospect to have than Darnell Wright 100%. Also Broderick has always been tackle 2 from that class Paris is pretty similar to Thomas with his tools and athletecism fs and Wright is pretty similar to Wills in level/kind of prospect, I love that situation of two prospects comparison
Why would anybody be happy for Packers fans? They’ve had 20 straight years of HOF QB play with multiple super bowls it’s time they understand what other teams have to deal with which is finding a franchise QB
Dak prescott was throwing to wide open guys with 6 second pockets cmon now. Dak is good but the commanders have one of the worst defences I’ve seen in years.
@@andrewperdue3266 the wins where dak has been playing great lately have been against the Chargers, Giants, Commanders, Rams and Panther. All those teams are either mid or just bad. I’ll give him some credit if he plays close tot his level against the bills, Dolphins and Eagles or in the playoffs. They’ll probably win like 12+ games and lose in the wild card like the cowboys always do.
There are Very Few middle teams this season. The Cowboys aren't gettin' to play them anyway. So they're either at their own level or cruising. This caught up to the Lions. It'll likely won't catch up to Dallas until, you guessed it, the 2nd round of the playoffs.
The Jets were 100% not in this game. Even with the fail Mary. And even with Zach there's absolutely no chance the offense gets even a TD. They're the worst offense in 50 years essentially in terms of performance. It's not just "bad luck", this is the offense that trusted Lazard as WR #2
Wow, I really disagree about the Lions - I think the Lions are far from a done deal to win the division, and could absolutely still miss the playoffs. Lets not forget that they strung together 7 losses in 8 games just last season, and 11 losses the season before that. The Lions still have the division leading Saints on the road, the Bears at Soldier, the resurgent Broncos D, then the Vikes home and away, with the Cowboys on the road in between. They could easily lose 4, 5 or all 6 of those based on their last 4 or 5 weeks. I think the Lions really missed the boat in their last 2 drafts. They could have made 6 or 7 franchise changing picks at QB and other high value positions, but they settled for one erratic WR, a top 20 RB, and some starter quality stocking fillers...
The Lions are still 8-3. Considering it’s a giant rivalry game and a packers team that could potentially make the playoffs, I think you are overreacting. Lions have had to play 3 games in 11 days, and they had a chance of winning this one as well if they convert a couple fourth downs and don’t fake the punt.
@@HenryJacobs-gj8vp They're 1-2 so far against rivals with a record of .500. Five of their last 6 games are against teams that are .500 or better, 3 of them on the road. The Bears are the only sub .500 team left on their schedule, and that's a tough road game against a division rival that really should have beaten them in Detroit. Just saying, they're going to have to play a lot better than what they have done over the last month to make the playoffs.
@@robe2504 but saying they r going to lose six games is blasphemous when they are an undisputed top 10 team in the league. In the nfl, having a team that can consistently defeat every team they are expected to is impossible. Comparing a lions with far superior roster talent to previous teams is insane. There is no “just saying,” when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
@@HenryJacobs-gj8vp Not blasphemous dude, just an unpopular take backed by some reasonable factors. They haven't even played the NFC North champs yet, and may not be able to sweep either of the divisions cellar dwellers. Yes, some folks have got very excited about Lions wins over a Raiders team in absolute disarray, a poor Falcons team, the struggling Panthers, and an early season win over rebuilding division rival Packers. It seems folks are just as dismissive of home losses against the depleted Seahawks and Packers, and the near miss against a Bears team that is on the rise. Sure, the Lions can beat up on weak teams, but their D Line has been innocuous of late, and the O Line has shown vulnerabilities with the loss of Vaitai, and injury to Jackson. And you can argue talent all you like but I don't think Montgomery and Gibbs have outproduced Swift and Jamaal yet, so it's difficult to argue that some of these talent "upgrades" have made a tangible difference yet. Let's continue this after next weekend.
@@robe2504 “reasonable factors” Lions beat chiefs and chargers. “Depleted” Seahawks. It was week 2 buddy can’t be very injured that early on. Also can’t forget the repeated missed holding calls on Hutchinson that lost us that game. Yes, the lions aren’t a perfect or top tier football team. Yes, it’s unlikely they will win a Super Bowl. Yes, we should’ve definitely drafted Gonzales at 12. However, saying they won’t make the playoffs because of one bad game after back to back short weeks is ridiculous. This is still a talented and extremely well coached football team who are capable of beating anybody with the right game plan and energy. Defense honestly played good this game considering the repeated short field positions, and the fumble six. Honestly could argue this was a good game for the lions. Campbell has become too confident in 4th down conversions, and this game will be a nice reality check before the playoffs.
even as a non-patreon member, mail bag is always excellent
TFG is on a tear with the content lately🔥🔥🔥
no jaelan phillips is
Too Freaking Good.
@@steve-mu9todamn too soon 😢
Man TFG praising Gutekunst AND Joe Barry in the same episode? It truly is a Thanksgiving Miracle
The biggest thing from the packers game: Rashan Gary single-handedly won that game for GB. Man was a monster of the edge. He probably heard ppl ranking him too low after the ACL
Not single-handedly, Love was fantastic
1:42:06 Dave Gettleman also got rehired by the giants after getting fired by Carolina which is insane
Both ron and Jack can go, I know Ron’s scheme sucks, but Jack was not getting it done,
Jack had amazing talent and never once did they grade out as top 10 (I believe)
@@33_milly93 there were years, but it wasn’t because the coaching was great, it’s because we played bad offenses. In 2020 and 2022 we had a good D but only against terrible offenses
I agree with you about the Lions. Feels like they tried to skip a step I the process of building a championship contender. Last season they got to relevance, the next step is making sure the full roster is packed with above average players and become a team that makes the playoffs somewhat easily year after year. Trying to take a roster that just got above the line of being bad and signing some vets and making draft picks at low value position is a way to set yourself back. Which was the point of being critical of their draft, it's not about this season its about the next 10. They got good players but if they continue with that strategy it's a sure way back to the bottom. You need your average performance and results to be good over a long period of time and maybe there's one year where you push really hard and don't worry so much about the future but you do that later on. Fun team though, I enjoy them
Their last 2 drafts have been well regarded but I think they've been very questionable. As a Vikes fan, some fans were wild about Kwesi's inter-division trades with the Lions and Packers and giving away Jameson Williams and Christian Watson, but both have struggled to produce so far.
The Lions could have stayed where they were and drafted Breece Hall, Christian Watson and promising Browns CB Martin Emerson at 32, 34 and 66. (Similarly the Packers could have stayed and drafted George Pickens & OLB Drake Jackson or Safety Brian Cook)
This year the Lions already had two effective RBs (as Swift has shown at the Eagles) and could have moved up for Richardson in a franchise changing move, or added Jalen Carter to help out Hutchinson, and added Myles Murphy , Brian Bresee, Nolan Smith to really bolster that D line, or Deonte Banks at CB, or JSN or Addison.
As a Vikes fan I was thrilled on draft day when the Lions passed up on all those opportunities to make potentially franchise changing moves, and now it looks like they've missed their prime drafting window...
A little late, but as a Tennessee Vols fan, the 2014 depth chart will always amaze me.
Justin Worley (who didn't even make a practice squad iirc) won the job after a hard fought battle with Nathan Peterman (yes, THAT Peterman)
Early in the season, they both got hurt, and the 3rd stringer who they quickly decided was distant behind those two, was Josh Dobbs.
So Dobbs got his chance, and they couldn't take him off the field. He was always holding the ball but man, did that dude make some plays.
I wonder if Dobbs may just be the worst practice QB of all time, cause whenever he's eluding defenders and playing streetball he's magical
For the allgy
So impressed with the packers and broncos
It feels like the Jets have gone so all in on Rodgers that after he got hurt they just said "Welp let's try again next year" even though they could have been a playoff team if they went and traded for someone like Jacoby Brissett
Strangely, no one talks about how bad Rodgers looked in those 4 snaps (5 if you count the Achilles) - basically being sacked 3 times and a handoff. Rodgers form looked in decline in 2022 as well. None of Rodgers posse have added any value either - Lazard, Cobb, Hackett...
From the outside it looks like they'll have to start over.
@@robe2504bro nobody talks about it because it was 4 snaps bruh 💀 with a new team at it you just speaking
Even signing Carson Wentz would’ve been a better move than what they did
@@noahduvall4962 Did you not see how slow he was? He looked bad in 2022 as well. And now he will be even older and coming off a significant injury. Yes, I'm just speaking...facts.
Or Dobbs. Or possibly their greatest missed opportunity, Trey Lance!
But there's another guy that teams refuse to touch & I find this to be a Perfect Summary of American culture. Colin Kaepernick.
He claims he called the team. No one owns his contract. It would have cost them an airline ticket & maybe some for staying at a hotel just to _look_ at him.
*No one* would? They can write "End Racism" all over every helmet & end zone forever & their actions will always speak louder than their words.
Christian Watson giving Treylon Burks fans hope
TFG I will like because I respect you and love the work you do....I cannot handle any more jets talk this year and on behalf of that sorry team I am sorru
Jaelan Phillips issues in college were concussions I believe
When your pass rush is eliminated by the offense getting 6 hands on Hutch, and your secondary looking anemic after a few injuries, really puts a microscope on the picks used in this draft.
Gibbs is cool, but there were much more pressing needs
Dak praise ❤
A couple thoughts on the discussion involving the Commanders in this podcast.
1. I don't know if I agree that Jack Del Rio was really running Ron Rivera's scheme. I don't know the exact relationship, but I always got the impression from the beat reporters that Del Rio was given the authority to run what he wanted. I am very surprised by how bad the defense has been. I thought we would be better. In two of the first three years of the Rivera regime, the defense was top borderline top 5 statistically. Its my understanding that the coaching staff and defensive players are also surprised by how bad they have been which is at the very bottom of the league. From a very big picture perspective the problem came down to Del Rio was running a bend but don't break scheme, but we were lead the league in big plays given up. If you are going to play a bend but don't break defense and be decent you have to be one of the best teams in the league at limiting bad plays. Why was there a spike in big plays given up this year? There is no single reason, its a lot of things adding up. 1) More breakdown in coverages last year (despite losing William Jackson who busted a lot of coverages in the 5 games he played in the zone match scheme). Some of the coverage breakdowns come down to zone match being a bit more complicated and needing more communication than other schemes. 2) Bad technique in the secondary--Kendall Fuller is a good consistent technician, but both Emmanuel Forbes and Benjamin St. Juste have struggled with their technique often trusting their instinct they playing the coverage as designed. Their was a TD against the Bears where BSJ had safety help inside and needed to maintain outside leverage, DJ Moore started running a slant and St. Juste tried to take away that slant but gave up his outside leverage. Route ended up being a slant and go and St. Juste got beat for a TD. Both Forbes and St. Juste have given up big plays where they trusted their instincts too much. The young safety Percy Butler (who became a starter after Derrick Forrest suffered an injury early in the year) has been up and down. He has some outstanding plays this year, but he also has had a lot of plays where he gave up big plays by not playing his assignment how it was supposed to be played. 3) Some bad designs--the Bears commented on how a few times the Commanders tried to disguise their coverage by not aligning pre-snap, but that it put them at a disadvantage after the snap when the defenders did not have good leverage on the receivers. 4) Too vanilla with the defensive fronts. The secondary ran a fairly complicated zone match scheme, but the D-Line was very much on the vanilla side. We have tended to get pressures when our D-Linemen win matchups rather than schemeing pressures by moving guys around and stunting.
I was at that Friday game and as a Jets fan it’s all good if you don’t talk much about them
Zach Wilson couldn't have came in the game he was the 3rd QB and they can only come in if the other two get hurt.
Keep in mind the Lions did play 3 games in 11 days and had a brawl with the bears on Sunday… this team was never a Philly or San Francisco maybe not even a Dallas but when they play their best they can beat anyone anytime. I do agree with you on the draft takes/offseason… this team needs to do something and it’s gonna be harder to get those top tier talent d-linemen and Corner and good this draft is pretty good and I do think they are gonna roll with Goff and make prove to them that he’s the guy they want to extend. I feel like if anything on this offense takes a dip that he might take a big dip as well.
Jets going with Boyle had starting Nathan Peterman over Tyrod energy. Yeah you want things to be better, but they can always be much worse. Nate-dog is a hack
Jordan still owns the Lions defense. Never been held under 20. Even on that awful week 4 game
THIS is how Jordan looks when his WRs don't turn into MVS on him
Also can confirm MLF said the night before he called Jordan and said he wanted to change the first play. Jordan said no, we are sending him deep, he will catch it I trust him
And the rest is history
Agreed on your Lions floor and ceiling takes. Lions look at culture over anything it seems. If you don’t fit you out. Then they take the highest talented guys with the culture fit. Right or wrong that’s what they gonna do. Time will tell if it works.
Yeah losing Phillips is for sure a huge loss for the Fins. I was sad to see it.
As far as Tua, he has got to clean up theses turn overs. Hopefully we'll see that before the true meat of the schedule comes up here at the end of the season.
Plus my opinion on Kyle v Mike on who is a better offensive mind in the NFL. I believe its like 1A and 1B. Both are amazing. That is splitting hairs. Anyway awesome video. Love hearing your thoughts.😎
Fins up!😀
Bryce Huff to the Colts let's get it done
The Jets COULDN'T put in Zach Wilson for the hail Mary. They demoted him to 3rd EMERGENCY QB so Boyle and Semien would both have to be incapacitated for Wilson to go in 😂
I've always like Jack del Rio as well , can't defend what he's put on the field this year though. Playing the Washington redskinned football team commanders has become a free week to rack up a lot of offensive stats.
SIR. I come here for Gutekunst slander. What business do you have presenting reasonable analysis?
I mentioned this a few times around after the Niners game. Unless Pete pulls a rabbit out of his ass and *rapidly* turns this ship around, the Seahawks will never win a Super Bowl so long as he’s the head coach, and I think him and both coordinators need to go if the horrific amounts of penalties and even worse play in situational football costs this team a playoff spot
You can blame the front office but Rodgers had a lot to do with getting “his guys”
I think what would be best for Seattle at this point would be for Pete Carroll to retire. He clearly doesn’t have it anymore from a schematic standpoint.
Jack Del Rio the next Spag or Dan Quinn?
The hawks don't have a super bowl level roster but it is close. Unfortunately even if we build a Superbowl roster, I will have no faith in our coaches to use that roster well
How dare you diss Frank Clark, the all-time Chiefs leader for sacks in the playoffs
Why does the jets offense seem exactly like the last few packers teams. One elite Receiver, a good running back, and Oline that should be good but is often injured, and Aaron Rodgers.
Part of me wonders if the lack of weapons the packers had recently was because Aaron didn’t want anyone other than the people he liked.
We already know that's the case, he didnt want the rookie playing at all, he wanted Lazard, Adams, mvs, tonyan, then cobb
He refused to target Christian until they ran out of people
@@Captainkebbles1392 I guess if you target Christian often enough, he'll eventually catch something.
Honestly how can Ron Rivera look his defense and team in the eye after Jack gets fired, he needs to go down with the ship he should’ve gotten fired before any other coach on the staff did
Nahh keep that same energy....he's tier 3 behind Goff...
There is no qb u
If anything qb u is Lincoln Riley
Bama is also in the convo for receiver u but I would agree it is OSU there as the best
Paris is still a better prospect to have than Darnell Wright 100%. Also Broderick has always been tackle 2 from that class
Paris is pretty similar to Thomas with his tools and athletecism fs and Wright is pretty similar to Wills in level/kind of prospect, I love that situation of two prospects comparison
Why would anybody be happy for Packers fans? They’ve had 20 straight years of HOF QB play with multiple super bowls it’s time they understand what other teams have to deal with which is finding a franchise QB
Tier above the league....lost 3 straight to bad teams ....can't win without 1 lineman or 1 wr....4 other all pros on the team
Goff never, at any point, ranked above Dak. Never even especially close. Dak never fell out of the top 12, Goff never made it there.
Dak prescott was throwing to wide open guys with 6 second pockets cmon now.
Dak is good but the commanders have one of the worst defences I’ve seen in years.
Yeah he’ll still shrink against a great teams
It’s not just one game buddy
@@andrewperdue3266 the wins where dak has been playing great lately have been against the Chargers, Giants, Commanders, Rams and Panther. All those teams are either mid or just bad. I’ll give him some credit if he plays close tot his level against the bills, Dolphins and Eagles or in the playoffs. They’ll probably win like 12+ games and lose in the wild card like the cowboys always do.
There are Very Few middle teams this season. The Cowboys aren't gettin' to play them anyway. So they're either at their own level or cruising. This caught up to the Lions. It'll likely won't catch up to Dallas until, you guessed it, the 2nd round of the playoffs.
The Jets were 100% not in this game. Even with the fail Mary. And even with Zach there's absolutely no chance the offense gets even a TD.
They're the worst offense in 50 years essentially in terms of performance. It's not just "bad luck", this is the offense that trusted Lazard as WR #2
Wow, I really disagree about the Lions - I think the Lions are far from a done deal to win the division, and could absolutely still miss the playoffs. Lets not forget that they strung together 7 losses in 8 games just last season, and 11 losses the season before that.
The Lions still have the division leading Saints on the road, the Bears at Soldier, the resurgent Broncos D, then the Vikes home and away, with the Cowboys on the road in between. They could easily lose 4, 5 or all 6 of those based on their last 4 or 5 weeks.
I think the Lions really missed the boat in their last 2 drafts. They could have made 6 or 7 franchise changing picks at QB and other high value positions, but they settled for one erratic WR, a top 20 RB, and some starter quality stocking fillers...
The Lions are still 8-3. Considering it’s a giant rivalry game and a packers team that could potentially make the playoffs, I think you are overreacting. Lions have had to play 3 games in 11 days, and they had a chance of winning this one as well if they convert a couple fourth downs and don’t fake the punt.
@@HenryJacobs-gj8vp They're 1-2 so far against rivals with a record of .500.
Five of their last 6 games are against teams that are .500 or better, 3 of them on the road.
The Bears are the only sub .500 team left on their schedule, and that's a tough road game against a division rival that really should have beaten them in Detroit.
Just saying, they're going to have to play a lot better than what they have done over the last month to make the playoffs.
@@robe2504 but saying they r going to lose six games is blasphemous when they are an undisputed top 10 team in the league. In the nfl, having a team that can consistently defeat every team they are expected to is impossible. Comparing a lions with far superior roster talent to previous teams is insane. There is no “just saying,” when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
@@HenryJacobs-gj8vp Not blasphemous dude, just an unpopular take backed by some reasonable factors.
They haven't even played the NFC North champs yet, and may not be able to sweep either of the divisions cellar dwellers.
Yes, some folks have got very excited about Lions wins over a Raiders team in absolute disarray, a poor Falcons team, the struggling Panthers, and an early season win over rebuilding division rival Packers.
It seems folks are just as dismissive of home losses against the depleted Seahawks and Packers, and the near miss against a Bears team that is on the rise.
Sure, the Lions can beat up on weak teams, but their D Line has been innocuous of late, and the O Line has shown vulnerabilities with the loss of Vaitai, and injury to Jackson.
And you can argue talent all you like but I don't think Montgomery and Gibbs have outproduced Swift and Jamaal yet, so it's difficult to argue that some of these talent "upgrades" have made a tangible difference yet.
Let's continue this after next weekend.
@@robe2504 “reasonable factors”
Lions beat chiefs and chargers.
“Depleted” Seahawks. It was week 2 buddy can’t be very injured that early on. Also can’t forget the repeated missed holding calls on Hutchinson that lost us that game.
Yes, the lions aren’t a perfect or top tier football team. Yes, it’s unlikely they will win a Super Bowl. Yes, we should’ve definitely drafted Gonzales at 12.
However, saying they won’t make the playoffs because of one bad game after back to back short weeks is ridiculous. This is still a talented and extremely well coached football team who are capable of beating anybody with the right game plan and energy.
Defense honestly played good this game considering the repeated short field positions, and the fumble six.
Honestly could argue this was a good game for the lions. Campbell has become too confident in 4th down conversions, and this game will be a nice reality check before the playoffs.