IR pays less, requires on site work, call work, complications…but I still find it more rewarding than DR. Patients thank you. I like working in a team and using my hands. it’s a perpetual battle between IR and DR, and often I find I need DR to give me a break from IR, and vice-versa….the wise man will keep both skills.
@@sarelgaurMD I meant it seriously. It sucks that it is not very sustainable on its own. Would be ideal if it were more profitable on its own like a surgical subspecialty
As I sort of dwell on this, between sips of coffee and lumbar spine X-rays, I think there’s some element of karma. We don’t give up much to become IR. One yr fellowship, 1200 procedures. Surgeons give up 5-10 yrs of their life in training. There is no comparison. No free lunch out there. IRs are ‘cool’ simply because they weren’t beat down for yrs as a surgical trainee
@@sarelgaurMD I get what you are saying. I’ve done a rotation in IR in academics and to me it’s ‘surgery lite’ with the procedures not being quite as tedious as a lot of surgeries though some of them are very surgical. It is a cool great field and I wish it was more sustainable outside academics.
@@stanf9898 sure. If AI is as good as they say it’s gonna be, then we’re all toast. Rads are still doing things the same way, even with AI products. Still dictating intra op fluoro. Still dictating bone films. Still searching for liver spleen trauma. Yes there are good products that summarize your impression quickly and help you find PE and heme. There’s still tons of medical / technical labour that needs to be done. I doubt that’ll change. Re loans. Yea I had them too. R/n nights pay 4k, so multiply by how many days you can work and subtract out your loans. I wouldn’t worry (and I did worry lots…)
IR pays less, requires on site work, call work, complications…but I still find it more rewarding than DR. Patients thank you. I like working in a team and using my hands. it’s a perpetual battle between IR and DR, and often I find I need DR to give me a break from IR, and vice-versa….the wise man will keep both skills.
Ur right on
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Sucks because IR is cool. Can you imagine if it was like a typical surgical subspecialty with solid volumes of high paying procedures?
lol I don’t know if that’s meant in jest
@@sarelgaurMD I meant it seriously. It sucks that it is not very sustainable on its own. Would be ideal if it were more profitable on its own like a surgical subspecialty
As I sort of dwell on this, between sips of coffee and lumbar spine X-rays, I think there’s some element of karma. We don’t give up much to become IR. One yr fellowship, 1200 procedures. Surgeons give up 5-10 yrs of their life in training. There is no comparison. No free lunch out there. IRs are ‘cool’ simply because they weren’t beat down for yrs as a surgical trainee
@@sarelgaurMD I get what you are saying. I’ve done a rotation in IR in academics and to me it’s ‘surgery lite’ with the procedures not being quite as tedious as a lot of surgeries though some of them are very surgical. It is a cool great field and I wish it was more sustainable outside academics.
Does AI switch the battle in IR's favor within 10 years?
If you’re a hard working DR r/n, you could be retired in 10 yrs (maybe 5…)
@sarelgaurMD I don't know if my student loans agree... 😅
But, does AI having any bearing on this battle? I think so.
@@stanf9898 sure. If AI is as good as they say it’s gonna be, then we’re all toast. Rads are still doing things the same way, even with AI products. Still dictating intra op fluoro. Still dictating bone films. Still searching for liver spleen trauma. Yes there are good products that summarize your impression quickly and help you find PE and heme. There’s still tons of medical / technical labour that needs to be done. I doubt that’ll change.
Re loans. Yea I had them too. R/n nights pay 4k, so multiply by how many days you can work and subtract out your loans. I wouldn’t worry (and I did worry lots…)
Ur nights are days in Hawaii or evenings in CA
DR is awesome, IR are wannabes, get on our level
Ur right
What get on your level mean ? ir is bad ?
@ it means dx radiologists are the king supreme workhorse of the hospital. And IR wish they was