Fountain Pen Shootout #31: Montblanc 149 vs. Pelikan M1000

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  • @arnauuu1
    @arnauuu1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There is no question for me that the Pelikan M1000 is the best nib produced nowadays; it offers a balance between smoothness and flexibility which is just perfect in my opinion.

  • @TheRiz52
    @TheRiz52 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr., another great shootout. This was like putting a Mercedes 500 SL AMG package up against a BMW 750i M series... Both are serious machines and won't disappoint.
    Great Job!

  • @ruadhagainagaidheal9398
    @ruadhagainagaidheal9398 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG ! finding this video in october 2023 and you look so young !

  • @steveconquest6684
    @steveconquest6684 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hello Stephen, I have two of each. Both are great pens, however, for build quality and ease of maintenance (disassembly/assembly primarily) the Pelikan wins hands down. If Pelikan can get their nib quality control issues fixed (ink flow and nib sizing) there would be no comparison IMHO. Cheers, Steve

  • @Crimson_626
    @Crimson_626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own both MB 149 and M100, this is a tough comparison indeed. Two iconic pens and perfect in every regard, it all comes down to preference at this point. Soo hard to choose a favorite amongst these two.

  • @Egnatius
    @Egnatius 10 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    If I had to choose between the the two I would buy the M1000

  • @masudashizue777
    @masudashizue777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder which is more comfortable to hold for a long time?

  • @Avinash1943
    @Avinash1943 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a person who loves to write, these pens represent what civilization can do today. There is no objective way to select one over the other, they are ultimate pens. Thanks for sharing the experience with us.

  • @glencashmore9100
    @glencashmore9100 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the review, Stephen; both pens are quality items but I'm not sure if either really deserve their high prices when viewed purely as writing instruments. Exclusivity, however, inherently comes at a cost.
    I would suggest that when demonstrating line variation as a function of tine flexibility it might be helpful to describe this more in terms of practicality rather than what the nib can be forced to do. No one is going to use a pen requiring extreme pressure on downstrokes.

  • @dorianphilotheates3769
    @dorianphilotheates3769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just stumbled onto your excellent channel and immediately subscribed. Greetings from Greece!

  • @Wolverine3660
    @Wolverine3660 12 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Steve- you know, I am in agreement with you. I have used the Pelikan M 1000 and the MB 149 since about 2002. And as the days go by, I find myself prefering the Pelikan M1000. If the MB 149 pens I have were not gifted to me, with sentimental value, I would have sold off both the MB 149s and would have used the money to buy 2 new M-1000 pens, my fourth and fifth!!!! And best of luck to you

    • @paulirineomontano5074
      @paulirineomontano5074 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wolverine3660 Can you cite your reasons for preferring the M1000? Thank you

  • @groundmoves0318
    @groundmoves0318 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Decided to go for a m800, I am looking for an everydaywriter and as you suggested in another video the m1000 is not always as practical because of its size. thanks for the amazing videos keep them coming!

  • @smithraymondearl
    @smithraymondearl 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been waffling between these two pens for some time now. I have a 40th wedding anniversary coming up this year and my wife would like to add to either my Montblanc collection with a new fountain pen or a new Pelikan. Since she loves pelicans anyway she loves the thought of the Pelikan. Your video help me get over the hump on the decision- the Pelikan won out. Thanks for the help.

  • @robert_wigh
    @robert_wigh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for this pen shootout! It's a real classic! :D I just wanted to point out that, as the looks of it, the Pelikan M1000 is a lot wetter than the MB 149. Although, I'm not sure, it might just have been the lighting in the video.

  • @Wolverine3660
    @Wolverine3660 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review of two iconic pens. I use my Pelikan M1000s and the MB 149 everyday.

  • @j.g.l7524
    @j.g.l7524 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Pelikan wins here undoubtedly

  • @pennfootball71
    @pennfootball71 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Epicness of this Epic Shootout is unheralded with it's Epic Proportions and is quite A LOT of Epic going on here!

  • @mayankverma4084
    @mayankverma4084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So for 1000$ you get a M1000 which give you smooth writing,no hard starts,effortless line variation and a fairly wet nib
    And for the same amount you get a MB149 which gives you smooth but stiff nib,a plenty of hard starts[6:39 ,8:30 ,9:15 , 10:37],and so hard to press for a little variation{even less than a baoer 373 steel nib pen}
    So if you want to waste 1000$ on a brands reputation and get a piece to plastic go for the 149
    But if you really want a writing instrument that performs according to the price it charge and is worth spending hard earned money go fot the M1000

  • @Joehand87
    @Joehand87 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "I'm not going to write that dow-OK I AM going to write that down." hahahahaha

  • @klt479
    @klt479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fall further in love with the m800 and m1000 the more I use them. I used to think the m800 was back weighted but no longer feel this. The build quality of the m800 and m1000 is certainly better than the 149. There is just something about the entire writing experience with the m800 and m1000.

  • @WMH98296
    @WMH98296 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice review! Like some others here, I have two of each pen also. However, one of my M1000s is all black rather than the usual green-striped configuration. All four pens are excellent writers, but in terms of appearance, I personally prefer the old-school look of the 149. Perhaps that's because a 149 was my first "serious nibbage," purchased in 1981, and I still own it. In fact, it's still like new and I recently began writing with it again.

  • @fossilimprint2954
    @fossilimprint2954 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant shoot out. Thank you.

  • @markos741
    @markos741 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats for the great shootout!
    I bought a pre-owned MB 149 and I must say that it has the best nib I've ever used, even better than the 146. Both pens are classics and the interesting part is that both brands make their own nibs. So, you won't find the great, but usual Bock or Jowo nibs that most brands use. You expect amazing craftsmanship and that's what you get. For that reason, a high price is to be expected, and it is not just the result of advertising and marketing.

  • @michalrezler
    @michalrezler 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both pens are great, but nib of M1000 looks wetter. Many thanks for this review.

  • @Proj8ct
    @Proj8ct 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes !!! A churchmens and m1000 shoot out if the statement "one of the smpothest nibs I've ever tried " still holds true

  • @Proj8ct
    @Proj8ct 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if it hard starts on both cheap and quality paper ?

  • @krunalthehell
    @krunalthehell 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work doc. You have made my dream come true. I bet, you were not aware how much I adore the pelican for obvious reasons. Comparing Mont Blank with Pelikan is like comparing the proud, super rich Bugatti Veyron Grandsport with koenigsegg Agera. Two huge pillars of human brilliance were compared here, on this day. This is a very historic comparison and I could just go on and on about it. Such a great comparison. Take care doctor, you have witnessed quite a moment.

  • @emilehogan5819
    @emilehogan5819 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done a video on the Mont Blanc Meisterstuck Legrand 146

  • @victorgyulnazaryan2265
    @victorgyulnazaryan2265 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there! I spent all night wantching your extremely interesting videos. I always enjoy the parts when you give us some insights from THE BOOK. As many of us are trying to figure out which pen best suits him, I have a simple and yet probably very diffcult question. If you were to pick just one pen, of all the pens you have evere tried, based only on one factor - smoothness, which one would that be? Is it the Fabra Castelle E-Motion Croco as you praised its smoothness a lot. Or any other?

  • @OhrmuzdAhriman
    @OhrmuzdAhriman 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Stevemeister! I am looking online for a used montblanc meisterstuck under $250, I was wondering whether a 146 or 149 is better for me. I have comparably large hands like yourself. If you know any good sites to find said Montblanc I would appreciate it! Also you should make a video or two about those beautiful swords you have there :-).

  • @SuperRondone
    @SuperRondone 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, that typical sound you hear on the Pelikan is the same I heard on my little M200, greetings from Italy.

  • @Shostakovichforever
    @Shostakovichforever 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice was expecting such a shootout for a while.Thanks!

  • @profpudwick
    @profpudwick 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Masterful. Very well done. Fair, balanced, could not be improved. Outstanding in every respect. Of course, the only pen to have is a Pelikan 100N or a 400.

  • @erhanmuco
    @erhanmuco 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greetings from Turkey! I love your reviews.
    I would like to buy a pre-owned Montblanc 146 or 149 in good condition. Any reliable sites you would recommend? I am also considering buying a Sailor King of Pens Ebonite. Never used a fountain pen before so any recommendation would be appreciated!

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The best thing is to go to a pen show. no website that sells used lens can be trusted 100%

  • @antonc108
    @antonc108 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are those swords in the background? Is the pen mightier?

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The pen is mightier but those are swords.

  • @ItachiUchiha-ps6mk
    @ItachiUchiha-ps6mk 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you plz make a shootout between the parker urban and parker im, i herd the use the same nib, i want to see which one feels better to you

  • @founink
    @founink 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Brown: Can you elaborate on how you compensated for ink accumulations on the m1000?

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think I have.

  • @Tulipsaki
    @Tulipsaki 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Much prefer the richer ink flow from the Pelikan. And I like its looks more.

  • @seversebastian
    @seversebastian 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man, I have a suggestion: review a Diplomat Excellence. I remember it actually won a prize back in '08 or '09 for best value for money. All I can say is that it's a sturdy, reliable writer and it looks nice too.

  • @gabrielgonzalez1993
    @gabrielgonzalez1993 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which would you say would be a good first fountain pen, the Montblanc 146 or Pelikan M1000?

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gabriel Both are great pens, but the M1000 is a pretty large pen

    • @gabrielgonzalez1993
      @gabrielgonzalez1993 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your reply. In general, it seems as if the peoples tone towards the size of the M1000 is not as accepting as it is for the Montblancs; the people who do like the size of an M1000 are few and far between. I just needed some info from an -- expert fountain pen collector, so thank you.
      P.S. I just watched your shootout #77 :-) and it is good. Also, thanks for reminded me how beautiful "The Blue Danube" by Johann Strauss. I think the beautiful flowing legato of this waltz matches the relaxing flow of the dance between pen, paper, and ink.

  • @MiadHoque
    @MiadHoque 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice comparison, what notebook do you use for these videos?

  • @glencashmore9100
    @glencashmore9100 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just to elucidate; I have several pens which you have reviewed and some of these, as we both have observed, can be pressed into line variation with sufficient force applied to the tines but seldom is this to any useful degree, and I suspect that repeated attempts to do so will ultimately fatigue and deform/spring the nib.

  • @Klaus-d9n
    @Klaus-d9n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have the 149 as well as the m1000 and i have to say the Montblanc is by far more reliable in providing inc

  • @christitanfighter
    @christitanfighter 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just need to review the Waterman Edson now! Then and only then will the trilogy be complete.

  • @ronaldspencer547
    @ronaldspencer547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the Freud museum you can see that he had a red montblanc pen from 1910 at his desk.

  • @austinmalone5197
    @austinmalone5197 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you had a channel of just inking up pens. I would watch it, all day, and I would love it. Your dose of creepy youtuber for the day.

  • @GoranPlaysTV
    @GoranPlaysTV 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    i ever tought double broad would be extremly wide but i think for my handwriting its perfect

  • @founink
    @founink 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have heard of the term nib creep. Is there something that can be done to minimize it on the m1000 or any other nib of significant cost?

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. Some inks are more prone to it than others.

  • @FahadMahmood1986
    @FahadMahmood1986 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an epic contest. 2 truly great pens with much in common. I tend to use my 149 a lot more....but if I had to pick a favorite oversize fountain pen it would easily be the Omas Paragon new style. What a nib! How about it Stephen, the ultimate 4-way shoot-out between the 149, M1000, Delta Dolce Vita and the Paragon .... Hehe

  • @arkubus
    @arkubus 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for another great review. Watching this I can't help but think that adopting a single "Review Ink" would be a very sensible thing, As in this shootout for example - Demonstrating subtle differences between two pens, that couldn't have been as apparent using different inks. Also, as in some of your other reviews, it would be much easier to establish a baseline performance parameter for pen nibs, in respect of their traits - such as Saturation, Skipping, Wetness etc.

  • @robbiebluck
    @robbiebluck 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Mont Blanc Meisterstuck 149 that has the plastic ring around its nib cime away. I can send a good macro picture of this problem to any who request it. I believe this is a common recurring fault. How to DIY the repair would be FANTASTIC to learn how! If you know how please inform me.

  • @robp.7769
    @robp.7769 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, since I am in no way in a position to purchase either of these these pens I will ask a question out of curiosity. In comparison to the Ahab how much larger are these beasts?

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  11 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think they're that much larger: the Ahab is a very big pen.

  • @retro51fan
    @retro51fan 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've used both pens and the Pelikan M1000 feels more substantial and let's face it, there are a ton of MB 149 clones but I can't think of a single Pel M1000 clone out there (someone correct me if I'm wrong). The M1000 is a beautifully-crafted writing instrument---those stripes are stunning....

  • @Kyodaikuma
    @Kyodaikuma 11 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    one day I shall own both pens as well!

    • @himurakenshin6053
      @himurakenshin6053 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Kyodaikuma Since it has been four years now, I hope you have already had that day and bought the pens👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

    • @jonghosuh2620
      @jonghosuh2620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Has the day came after 7 years?

    • @Kyodaikuma
      @Kyodaikuma 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@himurakenshin6053 lol it has I believe it was 2017 when I got the montblanc and less than a year later I got the Pelikan

    • @Kyodaikuma
      @Kyodaikuma 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonghosuh2620 yeah back in 2017-18 I got both.

  • @VYBGSS
    @VYBGSS 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My choise is the Pelikan M1000, but M or B nib.

  • @alaavn
    @alaavn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here is my 2 cents. I personally prefer MB 149 to the M1000. I got both 149 and M1000 at about the same price by the way. M1000 is a little bit smoother but has no feedback at all. It's like a super large size, super smooth ball pen with line variation, and for me, the nib is too springy for daily use. MB 149 on the other hand, is also very smooth, but it offers a little bit feedback. The current version is stiffer and very wet, I prefer the early version, which is modestly springy and modestly wet.

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, those are good arguments: I understand what you mean.

  • @Remington1875
    @Remington1875 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    For A Few Dollars More. Top five on the list of my favorite westerns.

  • @criscavi19
    @criscavi19 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just try the ST DUPONT models Atelier, Windsor, Lacquer, Diamond Guilloche, Firehead Guilloche!

  • @SuperDeckard2019
    @SuperDeckard2019 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the M1000 has a much better nib!

  • @mmmcosta
    @mmmcosta 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for such a nice video! I almost picked up my smartphone at the beginning, since I use the Few Dollars More theme as its ringtone. :)

  • @LordStormwind
    @LordStormwind 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Random suggestion but those swords in the background would be an interesting review to see

  • @Mike-LitorisSoBig
    @Mike-LitorisSoBig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The day has come, since yesterday I own both. Amazing pens

    • @Thomas_Stearns_Eliot
      @Thomas_Stearns_Eliot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve come to the final fork in the road. Which way should I go first? Knowing damn well I’m eventually getting both

    • @Mike-LitorisSoBig
      @Mike-LitorisSoBig หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Thomas_Stearns_Eliot pure preference, if you know that you are going to obtain both. Get the one that you get your hands on easier and cheaper.

  • @kroywen4601
    @kroywen4601 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In reply to retro51fan's comment, I guess that meant no one even care to counterfeit/clone Pelikan pens.

  • @samsowden
    @samsowden 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The two pens that between them define what most people think a fountain pen should look like. Maybe along with the Duofold.
    For me it's the Pel, for sure.

  • @founink
    @founink 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the m1000 broad nib I meant

  • @indra112xj
    @indra112xj 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have some pelikan pen, same nib size (medium), but my pelikan signum p520 (ss) write wetter and have more line variation than my pelikan m491 (18ct)

  • @Srinivasan.Answers
    @Srinivasan.Answers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You gave beautiful comparision

  • @criscavi19
    @criscavi19 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both pens have difficult start ink flow, both skip a little, neither seem quite wet. Just try ST DUPONT sir!

  • @panhayou
    @panhayou 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting comparison of two excellent pens. I have a Souveran M805 on its way right now and cannot wait to try it out. I did quite a bit of research on the M800 and Montblanc 146 (I ruled out the M1000 and the 149 because of their impractical size) but decided on an M805 because of its blue stripes (which I like a lot better than green) and silver trims (which in my opinion is less flashy and more sophisticated than gold) and because I personally don't care for MB's design.

  • @doboloax
    @doboloax 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I had to say classic or classical, I would say classic.

  • @derrickm5548
    @derrickm5548 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an excellent review and I must say I'm very pleased that I've acquired a lot of learning points about the different fountain pens from many of your videos here.
    There are two particular reviews of the Zoom and Music nibs from Sailor, which in my opinion are particularly helpful. The quality of the sailor fountain pens cannot be understated. The feedback from the sailor pens could be a very good feature but the ability of the Pelikan M1000 to 'sing' can be also quite a bonus to the ear as well.
    I wonder how the King of pens stand up to the M1000. Any idea?
    Personally, I prefer the quality of the Japanese maker but I am impressed with the Pelikan's dedication to excellence as well.
    For me, Montblanc 149 might be an excellent pen but it might just not work for me, at least for now.

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you found this useful. I have never used the King of Pens.

    • @evipingleihe9552
      @evipingleihe9552 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      sbrebrown now you do.

  • @mybigrattler
    @mybigrattler 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    love watching you.

  • @yominrak7975
    @yominrak7975 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a 146,and pelikan m800, m805 and m1000, all my Pelikan gold nibs are smooth and wet and never skips I do not need to worry about wet or dry ink pelikan just writes. Not the montblanc, I am lucky I did not pay the full price of it as I bought a preowned which currently is sent to montblanc for servicing, montblanc 146 medium nib, very dry and skips on every first stroke, I must use Iroshizuku Asa Gao ink in order to have lesser skips, come on its montblanc it is pricey despite a preowned.

  • @dannzeman
    @dannzeman 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't think of a better excuse for buying one!

  • @j.g.l7524
    @j.g.l7524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pelikan M1000 wins obviously

  • @AleksGutierrez
    @AleksGutierrez 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    haha! Mr. Freud would surely say something like: "So son, what exactly are you trying to compensate for? Those two phallic-looking pens are rather big arent they?" lol :D *w/German accent*

  • @matthewrammig
    @matthewrammig 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha I came here because I searched for the m1000 firework. However just bought a mb 149 last week!

  • @glencashmore9100
    @glencashmore9100 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for responding, Stephen. I was simply trying to make a point that in extremis demonstrations do have their place but it might be far more useful for the viewer to gain an understanding of what might be useful in practice. I know that this will remain a very subjective evaluation but never the less it would provide the viewer with a more valid expectation.

  • @Durandal999
    @Durandal999 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the 146 and the M800, the younger brothers of this two pens. I'm not into so big pens (I have no problems, i just prefer big pens, not super big, is just more confortable for me).
    BTW, i just sent a friend request on facebook ;)

  • @Durandal999
    @Durandal999 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir

  • @kato2395
    @kato2395 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DAWG :D

  • @Boerje69
    @Boerje69 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic.

  • @groundmoves0318
    @groundmoves0318 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could buy one for under 300 euros sigh...

  • @kshirsagar45
    @kshirsagar45 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow

  • @Proj8ct
    @Proj8ct 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smoothest*

  • @seversebastian
    @seversebastian 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come on, man! Spoiler alert! (Not to say I did't expect you would prefer the M1000, but still...)

  • @707PW
    @707PW 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meine Pelikan Federn "singen" auch alle,
    kann den Gesang sogar unterscheiden,
    Pelikan>>all :)

  • @gihanzohdy3284
    @gihanzohdy3284 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pelikan.

  • @anirbanchakraborty3589
    @anirbanchakraborty3589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very interesting fountain pen MB 149 , it has a nice gold finished if you can give it to me, I can give you a lovely fountain pen

  • @TheAtl0001
    @TheAtl0001 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review.
    Maybe a pet peeve, but you pronounce the Montblanc correctly not like Americans who always completely "rape" names. Yet, you pronounce Pelikan like the typical American.

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right.

  • @nookrmk
    @nookrmk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sacrilege!!!

  • @emilehogan5819
    @emilehogan5819 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your pens, just as much as I love your very posh British accent. Slightly creepy....

  • @kroyweb4140
    @kroyweb4140 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Montblanc is the clear winner!

  • @kshirsagar45
    @kshirsagar45 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow