I Can't Believe This Worked So Well! | Vinegar Gold
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- I Can't Believe This Worked So Well! | Vinegar Gold
vinager was used by hanible to cross the Alps. after super Heating the rock it would be rapidly cooled using vinager, causing thermal shock and a small chemical reaction, that destroyed the host rock.
I'm using the same method to clean up this beautiful gold specimen I found metal detecting
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absolutely brilliant and since i was going through the specimens i collected from being homeless and travelling round living in my car i tried it the Neighbours got pissed ; I found almost 2.47 ounces just in the quartz rocks , the Neighbours get a decent bottle of wine and a sorry , I get to laugh at those that sneered at me picking them up .
hi great did you use any sepcial metal detector or just using common knowledge?
This system of softening quartz did not know.
Next time I'll try it and let you know how it went.
Greetings from Catalonia
Hannibal used this when he crossed the Alps in 218 BC. Heat the limestone and pour vinegar on. Carved a path for his elephants to get down the other side.
I've said it before : the old timers generally speaking, were crafty buggers who knew what they were doing. They may not have given a crap about nature or their own health (Cyanide and Mercury, anyone?). But we can do similar things, building on the old knowledge, adding modern equipment and techniques to finesse the gold they left behind. Cheers Chris!
Well this guy is not to worry about his health either, crushing quarts without a mask and all that dust flying up he is breathing in.
Maybe they used vinegar to attack the iron pyrites in the ore.
Mercury isn’t to bad if you take precautions. Yes the Spaniards clearly wasted it and polluted some water ways still today, but if mercury stuck to copper and then you used a mercury retort you can boil the mercury off and still retain the mercury separating it from the gold.
Ask Jeff Williams channel shows how old timers used a mercury retort.
Forget how much the gold was worth, the proof of concept is priceless.
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How good is it!
You’re having way to much fun with this
All the fun
Thank you for making these and your time in doing so. When I finished with the stuff here in UK I might take a look at the world with a prospectors eye. Be well.
I have used this technique n it is working like you said.keep it up.
Also great to see the safety squint coming into play🔥💥☄️
The old timers definitely knew what they were doing Chris! Thanks for sharing⛏🏴
I've been waiting for this video crazy how well.it worked. Firesetting is a ancient practice that has been found in very old mines the Romans also used it on a industrial scale. Just incase anyone get the idea for conglomerate be careful as riverrocks explode when heated
Good point on the river rock gadzee. Interests me how early man started mining the earth
Rock go BOOM 💥
@@bradleysanderson9928 yes that's why you don't use them around a fires
It is the thermal shock that makes then explode. If you build a fire pit with river rock it will be OK if fired up slowly. Giving a chance for moisture to evaporate.
@@kenneely7899 I'm not too sure I always got told river rocks will explode when heated. Better to be safe then sorry
Hey Chris, nice work.
Ive been using a similar method, just not with vinegar.
And it has a rough element of 'assaying' the ore, to see if it's worth working
I've been collecting a bucket of sample quartz from reefs I find.
Then I cook the rocks for several hours in a kiln I made - get's to 500c or so,
so I want to make one bigger & hotter (of course)
I then shock the rocks with cold water from the hose
(I'll give vinegar a go next time, to see if there's a difference)
Next I take them out to a lonely place in the middle of no-where,
(so I don't shit my neighbors to tears with the noise,)
and crush the hell out of them in my dolly pot,
by using a concrete facing bit on my hammer drill.
I seive the contents of the dolly pot through a kitchen seive
anything that doesn't go through the seive,
goes back into the 'to be crushed' bucket
and I repeat till I run out of material to be crushed,
and end up with a bucket of pretty fine sand
( I gotta make a hammer mill to speed this bit up)
At this point I can weigh the bucket of crush to give me a 'Before Processing weight'
Then I run the crush through the blue bowl
to get to the gold, which gives me a very rough 'ore to gold' ratio
to see if the reef's worth working further
It's a work in progress, but I have found gold with this technique
Just not enough to shout 'Yippeeeee!' yet
What a good presentation that you showed us.Thanks and keep up with the good vids !
It might be worth trying a sample where you use plain water after heating, instead of vinegar. You would likely get some thermal fracturing either way, but it would be interesting to see whether the acetic acid actually does anything. You could reheat your tailings after panning, treat them with vinegar, and pan to see if there is more fine gold released.
love this one man. The slow mo moments are fantastic! This would make a nice series. Like mythbusters for prospecting!
great stuff Chris with the vinegar who would of thunk it!!!!i must say the old timers had the best the most original ideas ever i also watch a guy do the same thing heat up the quartz then just added water instead of vinegar it had the same effect on the quartz
that's why i say to my two sons if an old bloke has something to say just listen and learn helped one of my boys when he started working in the gold mines in WA
but his abstract way of speaking now from listening to the old timers well i should of warned him about that . he comes home with some colourful language some ripper stories but he forgets that he can not speak this way to his mum and dad gets him in trouble all the time
but he can call me Big Horse
Hi. I tried it out myself with a MAPP gas torch and industrial produced vinegar (ca. 12.5 % acid) it worked out fine.
So cool! Tbe slow-mo shots of panning may be the most effective way ever to show how the process works. Thanks, and ; carry on, bro
Looks like a really good method.
Well good morning sunshine..... Thanks for the smile on a gloomy morning.. truly appreciated that.much love always
Thanks you for sharing this way to discover true 🇮🇹
Learning more every day. Good job Brother. You're a good teacher, Keep it up 😜.
oh my goodness ! thank you for sharing as it confirms I was right...super excited! wanna see my gold from Butte County California? Ive been at it for 9 years and I seriously just now can say I never stop learning as I have trudged forward and love everyminute...Even broken fongers and toes from time to time...safety first
That is so awesome, thank you have a wonderful day!
Oooh interesting. I just picked up a few samples today i have to crush that are promising. I might try this method on half of it and see the difference. 👍🏼👍🏼
For everyone saying why use vinegar- it's true it did nothing to the gold except cleans and brightens it and that is the point because if it were a substance that can be mistaken for gold like pyrite, old brass, chalcopyrite or mica they would react with the vinegar changing the color atleast and can alter the color of impure gold.
What if it altered the color of a gold and someone threw it away?
Like a beacon for fugazzi's...Helps to fool proof your valuable work, time and ultimately your final goal, right?!
Crushed it! Cool experiment and some specimens to boot!
Legendary thanks for showing us
That just looks like fun! What a way to spend a day.....
dude i have been collecting quartz cause i like it.. some of it looks to have gold in it. never tested it. but i am totally gonna try this.
Awesome video 🤣named tools & sound effects!
Way cool! Thank you for sharing.
That was an awesome demonstration and excellent gold👍🤠🐊
Thanks for the insight brother! 💪🏻👍🏻
Good morning man. Brilliant video as always stay humble stay hydrated and enjoy the day.
I dig it! First time seeing some process it at the convince of their home lol.
great video and results mate,looks like it more than halved the effort needed to crush your rock samples.
Heard about burning reefs and quenching with water before but never seen it done. Awesome.
What beautiful pieces very beautiful 👍
Congratulations and have fun in the future 🍻
Water is does the same effect as I previously mentioned in another video of yours.
I always heat up my big gold ore rocks and drop them into a bucket of water, it either breaks apart then or like you've noticed that aka stampy loves it haha... keep going Chris love the videos, give ferny a scratch behind the ears for me
Also acids can dissolve alot of Rock when left in solution and leave behind the good stuff, much less separating needed
Hey Chris, 2 things, 1), cut a leafblower sized hole in the firepit at the bottom, blow the fire that way with say an old vacuum cleaner on "blow". 2) would "cleaning vinegar" work better than normal - the 14% stuff.. THAT would be an interesting update to see.
Great video Chris. I'm going to try this on some species I have at home that my stampy just bounces off.
Great show !
Very interesting and informative vid mate keep it up 👍🏽
just a suggestion: instead of burning wood on a fire, try using a fresnel lens to heat up the rock. it would be a good thing if you're in a desert that doesn't have fire wood, or in a place with a lot of firewood, but it rains a lot.
Or the solar death ray.
I really like that method, I'm new to gold and have collected lots of black sand full of fine gold, a fellow mentioned salt and vinegar to extract as much out as possible and that's how I ended up here lol. Thank you for the video, very interesting stuff
Here’s an interesting fine gold solution for you
The old timers in the north Otago field used to use a crusher bowl (basically a motorised mortar and pestle) to crush down quartz tailings to get more gold out. They would shovel these tailings into the crusher bowl, fill it with water and vinegar and leave it turning for a day (the idea being that the friction heated the quartz enough for the vinegar) before processing the material to get the gold out.
You could use a similar system for your tailings after just a crushing to get more gold out of them
Would be cool to see a side by side comparison of your traditional crushing method vs. boiling vinegar. Maybe a couple buckets per, mixing the rocks together to avoid concentrations and see how economical the vinegar method is..
I made a version of Stampy a couple of years back but instead, used a 4lb sledgehammer head that I welded a 4 foot bar to, onto one of the hammering faces. I call it a Whumper. I scavenged a 6 inch thick disk of steel from a metal profile cutter and welded a tube above that to whump into. Works good. And quenching your hot rocks in Water works just as well as vinegar.
I very much enjoyed the old school way you just showed and will use on my quartz. Altho I use a post hole driver and flat end of a digging bar. Lol. Older school
That was so awesome!
Cool can't wait to try it
When you ran the water on the pan you should have added some dishwashing soap in the pan to stop any gold flakes floating away.. Good video tho, iv never thought of doing that
The same rock breaking method was used by Hannibal's military engineers to break rock in building a path across the alps in some locations, much quicker then with sledge hammers and pick axes..
Your sinister laugh is awesome!
Blacklight shows blood in rocks. Blood=Gold.
Very interesting and something that I will be trying myself. thanks for the video, Cheers Chris
Hope ot works well for you
@@VoGusProspectingسلام اين اجد اله تكسير الحجر التي لديك
Will be trying this soon . Are Monsoon is finally here in Arizona looks like rain for the next week.I have 5 maybe 6 buckets to try . sure will help speed things up thanks
i love your videos buddy. thank you
Thanks Chris. Great Idea to collect your ore in summer and burn and crush when it’s too cold to prospect, love ya stuff!
That's so cool mate! just found a specie and might have to try this 😯
Great info!
Very cool. I need to try that
Well done Chris!
Although I perfectly knew that in the middle ages and earlier, mining has also been done by fire and shock cooling with water, I kept dolly potting. I never made the connection for easier breaking down ore. (Not to forget that during some sieges, city walls were torn down this way.)
You saved my day, for sure!
Big TNX!
WOW!! THAT'S COOL TO KNOW, BRO ...
I get why the ol’timers built fires on the vein. Weakening the vein would make it much easier to dig out and it’s prepared for crushing. 👍🤷♂️ Smart.
That is awesome 👌, I think your show is really cool 😎.
Love the channel, brother
Nice video man.. 5hank you 👏👏👏😊
Very Nice Chris!! CHEERS JJ
That was interesting. I've often wondered what the old guys went through to learn. Purty smart fellers..
Great video! Way cool!
Very COOL way to get da gold outta rocks!
Thanks Chris!
That was a cool way of doing a crush. Well done.
Was a bunch of fun
I bet you can do this with water. The vinegar comes in if the ore is dissolvable with acid, therefore releasing, potentially, more gold. For me, with my layman's brain, the "trick" is to get the quartz red hot and shock cool it so its crystalline structure shatters, releasing the gold.
FUN VIDEO!!!
Vinegar is a mild Asid which makes sense in degrading rock to process. Fire is an old method going back thousands of years for processing rock even directly in mines and rock faces making it easier to fracture and dig out before the advent of explosives.
GREAT video .MORE please.😁👌
Very cool way to do the ore.
Wow, that was an interesting way to recover gold from quartz. Thank you for sharing. I need to try that. At the very least, you will be left with some beautiful chunks of gold. However, where can one find ore like that on public, unclaimed land?
if your looking at doing that on a slightly larger scale consider making like a pizza oven converted into a lime kiln. the kilning process would make the ore hot enough and it might be better to shovel it into a waiting vinegar bath. of course if it dosn't work right you'll have a pizza oven as a conselation prize
Finally! A cost efficient way to gain gold
You should burn your ore more often plus it's always a bonus to have a beer around the firepit afterwards 🍻
This 🤌
that should make crushing ore a lot easier. might take a little longer on the front end but I bet it save a fair bit of time on the back end.
Gold, a fire, a great dog…add a beer into the equation and you are ticking all of the boxes!
Wood coals get hot enough to melt steel if you have a forced air supply. Just a heads up from someone who does blacksmithing as a hobby
Found that out afterwards lol
@@VoGusProspecting yeah I found it out the hard way myself back when I first started blacksmithing. Couldn't find a coal supply so I used hardwood charcoal with a 100cfm fan as a blower. Left a railroad spike in the fire, got distracted by my phone and suddenly it was a fireworks display in my forge.
@@joshsmith9558 By that point, you may as well throw that spike in the trash. Those sparkly bits are the carbon burning out of the steel.
@@mikeford963 I'm well aware of what it was. I've been a welder for 17 years. Been doing blacksmithing for nearly 10. Railroad spikes are on the very low end of the "high carbon" steels. Granted the ones used in turns tend to be of better quality because of the sheer force put on them but they are still junk steel. Great for practice and making tongs and the like out of but useless for knives. When I first started I didn't expect charcoal to reach those temperatures. After that incident I started doing research on blacksmith and found that charcoal burns hot enough for forge welding.
@@joshsmith9558 Also a welder, red seal in Canada. And yeah, proper charcoal, as opposed to briquettes, can get that hot with enougg forced air flow. That's how mankind did it before we discovered coal.
This is cool will be interesting to see how this works on conglomerate
Silicca can be put into pill form good for your hair and nails when ingested.
Love you bro. God bless you.
We don't have gold nuggetsto detect here in Wisconsin USA. We do however have copper nuggets. I'll have to try this on one of my specimens.
That was very interesting and i want to try this now too. :) I have to make a better dolly pot first.😀
Someone probably has mentioned this, but why vinegar? Well I think what makes the quartz so crumbly is the temperature shock, so water should do the same thing. But vinegar dissolves the sulfites, and for many reactions as temperature increases, so does the reaction rate; making the vinegar break down the sulfites very quickly.
Oh, and because you're mixing a sulphur compound and an acid, only do this outdoors in a well ventilated space. Not sure how you'd do this indoors anyway 😆
that was cool as heck good 1
Wow! That really worked. I may have to give it a shot. Thanks for another fun video.
if you drive a few rods through the fire barrel and put a grat on top ...and pump that fast air under the fire....it gets way hotter...if you find the white stuff...drop some vinegar on it ...if it bubbles it is good for
further processing.....put it in the fire, get the rock red hot, let cool.... lightly mix water into rock powderr just to a pasty texture .....let dry...the product is ready for cement mix....you blacksmith you...
Hello Chris, you could save nice specimen gold by dissolving quartz in melted sodium hydroxide (lye), all gold inc fines preserved,but I would have to describe the process fully for safety sake, it's absolutely save,if you stick to it,regards George
You have rediscovered an ancient form of smelting. Cool
Thank you
That works well on a small scale. You also have some very rich pieces. I was wondering if it was the vinegar or just the thermal shock. Have you tried it with plain water?
Thermal shock...
Vinegar and lemon juice work for the best safest methods both are very acidic which help dissolve the calcium carbonate and weaken the structure within the stone a chemical reaction. The heating and cooling fracture other minerals and split the stone into smaller pieces this is a thermal reaction.
@@abstractgamer8543 Got it.