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I could not have made this content without Allison Kimberly and Kay Bussey's work. Allison Kimberley is on twitter at @kimpulsive93.
Communal quirks and circlejerks: A taxonomy of processes contributing to insularity in online communities
Kimberley, Allison and Kay Bussey. "Communal quirks and circlejerks: A taxonomy of processes contributing to insularity in online communities." Proceedings of the International AAAI Conference on Web and Social Media. Vol. 14. 2020.
Really appreciate the point at the end, keeping things in context is important. If there's uncool content on the site then it's definitely worth having that discussion, but it's ultimately up to a creator to make what they want to make, and it's up to you to decide whether or not you want to engage with it. Starting a witch hunt just creates defensive attitudes (e.g. the "we're cool, btw fuck neopets" post) and guarantees that no change will ever occur, while also catastrophizing the issue among an insular twitter group and causing unnecessary stress.
Fantastic comment. I meant to touch on something you mentioned, which is defensive attitudes resulting from getting brigaded by a group of outsiders. It's not a great place to start if you want to have a productive conversation. Which is tough, because how else are people supposed to provide feedback if they're not invested?
For me it's just that neopets has given my computer trojans TWICE in the past, so it's hard for me to trust it.
The implication that neopets is “pc” in the deleted marapets tweet is wild. Makes me feel like we’re not talking about the same site. Neopets? Like Mystery Island Neopets??
Right!! It really is a head scratcher.
What’s wrong with mystery island?
@@Halo2glitchlover22 I guess, though a lot less outwardly offensive like Marapets, Mystery Island is still playing off bigoted “feral native tribesman” tropes.
@@PeeperSnail it's really not offensive lmao
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It is though.
I just dont get why they think Neopets is "boring" just cuz there are normal characters, meanwhile it has that amazing sports cup which I loved every year, hundreds of games and lore. There's no need for offensive descriptions to make a site "interesting" or "different". And obviously he will never escape the fact that its a Neopets knockoff
I think that Neopets and Marapets have different strengths, so while it started as a mimic, I would consider it something else than a "knockoff." In my opinion, Marapets is much more developed and consistent than Neopets.
That being said, I agree about challenging the assertion that it's "boring" just because it's pleasant and socially acceptable.
i love the altador cup
If Ian thinks that not using stereotypes would "take away the character" of Marapets, that just makes him sound very uncreative IMO.
I love the design of the obese fairy, but giving her a decent name and flavour text is all I would really ask of them.
Yess, I love the design of the fairy! They could've called her the Candy Fairy and gave her flavor text about how sweet she is or something.
The character is so cute! It would take 10 minutes to change the flavor text into something positive.
"What did neopets do to you?" I guess Ian's still holding onto a grudge because they banned his guild back in 2004 lol
EDIT: also very glad to know you have plated your outlet
Lmao
I personally think the obese fairy is very cute. Not a fan of how mean spirited her description is.
I’ve never played but he’s definitely put me off of wanting to.
i'm a current player--i do see some problems with the site which can offend some people, and i'm not a fan of the obese fairy's description either, or any of the other problematic things on the site
there's more than just fatphobia, unfortunately. there is some REALLY bad racism as well. the worst and most blatant racist npc was revamped recently to be less offensive, but there's still a lot of items that have some cringey racist stuff in them. like the minipet "shaggy" for example (just type that into the search bar while on marapets).
i hate most of the lore in the game because it's edgy, usually kind of boring, and also usually ripping off neopets in some way, but i've been playing for over 10 years and the game is really feature-rich and has tons of stuff to do. it's fun to play, but you have to get used to the stuff that's going to be jarring or uncomfortable.
i'd like if the owner cleaned up the gross stuff (and maybe stopped having an "ugly contest" where the winners are always female avatars covered in body hair with beards), but like it's a free internet i guess. dude can do what he wants, just the same as people are free to point out that it's kinda childish and gross.
if you do decide to play it though, adblock is mandatory. lmao.
I really appreciate your insight. I enjoy the game so much but am also bugged by a lot of the content.
Yes I understand but what kind of edgy stuff on it I wanna know
There was even like, a homeless fairy at one point who was addicted to gambling. It was weird as hell.
Man I used to think “Marapets is a knockoff Neopets” was just a mean comment meant to demean a Neopets competitor... but holy shit, aside from the user avatars, it literally has no identity to separate itself from Neopets, aside from the insensitive content. Faeries, pet colors, distinct lands like an angelic Grecoroman city, a futuristic/vaguely virtual city set in a space setting... Even the art style is similar.
Neopets is like a socially aware, over-funded, under-developed Marapets. Even though Marapets has offensive content, it is so much more fleshed out than Neopets. Getting really into it was like a reality check for what I've settled for on Neopets. That being said, I've decided to quit it cold turkey until they clean up the gross content.
@@PSJulie That’s entirely fair. I am a lifelong fan of Neopets, but the whole site is basically a patchwork of new content set to the backdrop of tons and tons of outdated and forgotten features, some of which have spent well over a decade in a decrepit state. Though I still think it’s way too derivative, Marapets staying as an indie project is much more impressive at the end of the day, and it’s a shame the owner kind of showed his true colors with this whole scandal.
Well said!
When a content creator says that if they stopped being offensive they wouldn't be interesting anymore, they're really just admitting their content is uninteresting and they have to do outrage marketing to get attention.
I love the "toxic" segue music lol
I looked for music that came out in 2004. When I saw toxic, i knew it was meant to be
@@PSJulie it was meant to be.
love 2004 I was 6 years old
I've been an on and off member of Marapets for the last 14 years and I wholeheartedly agree with your criticisms of Ian/Staff and the culture of the userbase! It's so bad that I don't even use the forums unless I absolutely have to.
Ian does not respond well to criticism whatsoever and comes off agressive/insulting when dealing with it. I've also definitely had some less than stellar interactions with staff and seen some pretty atrocious responses to other players. I once brought up on the forums how the description for a site feature sort of contradicts itself, is a bit confusing, and an easy fix on how to make it more clear for myself and other players and was told by staff that they "shouldn't have to edit text just because people can't be bothered to read the whole description". They've edited recently and it's significantly shorter and does pretty much what I suggested, but damn if that interaction doesn't still sting.
honestly one of the best youtube videos I've seen in a long while. u really get into the meat of the social dynamics of these websites that has perpetuated on older net communities for a long time. its great to see the research that's been done on this behavior and you present it in such an entertaining way. really wishing u the best in 2021
Thank you so much for the kind comment!
2020 was the year of watching video essays, didn't expect to casually experience one of the best ones at the very end LOL. You are so damn eloquent, top tier social commentary. Followed you for neopets content originally, still here because I love your content.
This is such a kind comment. Thank you so much!
thank GOD we got the confirmation that there's a PLATE on that outlet! Great video, I really liked your perspective on analytics and other pet sites!
I knew it would keep you up at night of i didn't
You know, when Marapets crossed my mind after wandering back into Neopets after Flash died, this wasn't what I was expecting to find out about.
Sorry for the bad news. :(
12:46 Hi Julie was watching this with my fiancee and realized that you screen capped my post on the neopets subreddit! I'm the post about the maraquan lutari.
Great video and fascinating content as always!
Great spot! Congratulation on the guest feature. ;)
Love your argument that controversial content isn't worth keeping just for the sake of having to continually defend it. You can argue all day about whether something is justifiably offensive or if people are being ~too sensitive,~ but really such things have little to no benefit to keeping them, while replacing/changing them will at least appease players and get them off your back. Relatively objective conclusion to something that's normally painfully subjective.
Thank you so much!
I remember liking Marapets as a kid because it was "more mature" than Neopets to my dumb little mind.
Also once I got banned from a Marapets server for being upset someone posted a video of a burning trans flag, so uh...Yikes. It'll have a soft spot in my heart but still, *yikes*
YIKES
I have been playing online games for about 10 years and I can't believe I have never heard of Neopets nor Marapets, and I have been looking for new online games for years! Please keep sharing about online games! I find this really entertaining.
I'll do what I can!
Wow this was just a random background video but I really like how you tied the points it at the end to actually say something of value. I totaly agree with what you mean about tolarence! I had a friend in college who told me you can't be too mad at someone cause everyone has different priorities and their gonna always follow that. That always stuck with me.
Hey Julie, if I had some info on potential predatory behavior from a staff member on a small but long standing pet site that's been widely ignored and swept under the rug, would you be willing to at least give me a listen? It's kind of a crazy thing, and deals with a lot of toxic staff culture in pet sites. Both the behavior and some other unsavory practices were brought to pet site developers elsewhere and those who spoke up were called bullies and told not to blow the whistle despite evidence.
Go ahead and email it over to me! juliebonkllc@gmail.com
Don't have anything insightful to add but I just wanted to say your content is some of the most well informed, interesting stuff I've found on TH-cam and I always get excited to see you've uploaded something new. Love just hearing you talk about whatever. :-) have a good new year
Thank you so much!
I was a huge fan of Marspets when I was younger, but after seeing the Staff costume, I rather make my pet site then play it again. I have a lot of ideas for it, I'm worried about sharing them as no other pet sites did them before.
Check out a developer forum? VPL is the one I used when I worked for sites. The group can be rather closed minded to dissent, but its mostly because it's a small niche business. With other creators, they're usually very supportive of ideas. I've never seen anyone steal any ideas just because, again, the pet site dev community is so small that people would notice.
@@Wandervenn thanks you, I'm still designing pet species
@@misscaring4318 Good luck! I've worked for a handful of pet sites myself and a friend and I are developing one in our spare time. The forums can be great for assets, staff, and brainstorming ideas/getting advice.
@@Wandervenn I'll check it out, soon. One of the ideas I have is ONE pet per account, but the game focuses on the human avatar relationship with them.
Im focusing on my tumblr ask blog, I just wish I have questions LOL
I remember playing marapets in middle school. I thought it was so cool that it was a small community and that the creator (Ian) had frequent player feedback times when we could send him messages and he would respond in real time. I remember saying "This is so much better than neopets!" And he repeated that but said, "This is so much better than - a name I'm not going to say because that website is EVIL!" Cracks me the heck up lol
that's funny but not a great response especially as they're so similar since marapets is basically a spin-off of neopets
even now, people in the forums and mt are sometimes hesitant about saying neopets though--they usually say "the other place" (even i usually do that unless someone says "neopets" first)
I spent the entire video in pure dread that your plateless outlet would result in a house fire. I'm beyond relieved that you addressed this at the end. I didn't think I would be able to sleep at night knowing that such a dangerous issue was left unresolved. (PS I can't get enough of your video essays, they're so well reasoned and insightful.)
Thank you! Glad I could squash that fear about the outlets.
Your reminder to unplug is a very good idea! I will keep it in my mind stepping forward into 2021. :)
Love it! I hope you have a good new year
@@PSJulie Thank you! I also wish you well for the new year.
I recently stirred up issues because a site I played (Gaiaonline) sported SS uniforms and we've had quite a lot of Neo Nazi's already plaguing it when I brought it to the attention of the staff. I had to deal with a lot of backlash. It takes a lot of courage to choose to be the out group. I don't expect users to leave the sites they played for years, but I urge and encourage those who see offensive content to take a stand, rather that is to discuss it among your friends or rather that is to do it anonymously. No one should tolerate racism, sexism. As for marketing? He still needs to change, even removing the topic of profit or rather he thinks it's necessary. Eventually extremist "Anti-snowflakes" become more extreme because someone who is indifferent to these issues is a safe person for those who want to do harm, like neo-nazis. Cancel culture isn't really a thing, what I mean is outrage is a thing yes but historically the actual accountability and loss of income or jobs is rare. Just look at Donald Trump.
These are all really good insights!
Great points as always, and included context is good too! It does all make sense once you explained the origin of the site and the creator. Hopefully he feels okay moving out of Neopet's shadow someday, then, because it does sound like Marapets has love and potential put into it despite the human behind it needing some personal growth too. It's nuanced takes like this that hopefully help sway them. Also, despite this I do think I will make an account on there...Somehow, the creator even bothering to address the controversy gives me hope that he has potential to change. I keep thinking back to Squiby, where I used to create adoptables (every user could), and how terribly that fell apart with much silence from the founder. So, crumbs give me hope! ahaha
*sees the title*
Me: SPILL THE TEA SISTER, SPILL IT
oh girl, let me start up the kettle
Somebody calling attention to problematic content without going in guns blazing and actually trying to rationalize and understand why the situation arose in the first place? This was actually really refreshing to find in a world where everyone loves to just jump on the bandwagon of hate.
"I think that every single person involved in this drama could probably be served by spending less time online" god ain't that the truth. about so much, not just the marapets drama. and I say that as a person who has the full on brain worms and internet poisoning from being online for the past 15 years or so. the older I get the less energy I have for the outrage, even if I think it's kinda justified
You make excellent points! Through the entire thing, even the "walk back" at the end. Also I never heard of Marapets before this, so that's fun to learn about!
Also AHA the outlet part got me LOL you MONSTER!
I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
“what did neopets do to you” didn’t they ban his guild? lolol
edit; as interesting as this video is, as long as ian keeps your traffic he is never gonna change very much. 🥶
I really want to know if Ian still plays Neopets.
I would be surprised!
Wow I didn't think I would love your takes so much.
I'm glad!
Maybe this is a bit cruel, but I'm not sure that Ian can make good business opportunities when the most he seems to have done with himself is make Marapets. I'd be genuinely shocked to hear if he's ever taken a business class.
Thank you for sharing your perspective!
I am going to make a callout tweet about how you're a monster who doesn't cover outlets.
(I'm kidding ofc, this is a wonderful video with a really balanced discussion! I love the way you present your evidence and all the data you have gathered!)
I literally covered more outlets today. I promise it isn't representative of my character. :'c
edit: your videos have been all up in my recommended section lately! I've been watching through your catalog & I'm so flattered that you enjoy my content.
@@PSJulie Omg!!! I've been following your stuff for years; to think that you've seen any of my content leaves me absolutely starstruck!!
My contact with Ian (and other staff) on VPL, a pet list developer forum, was not great. I'm not suprised. Marapets would not have succeeded if it started now. The people who still cling to it started back in the day (which makes sense with the analytics being young adults) and feel allegience to the site rather than an unbiased admiration for what it beings to the table. The people who run it are not open to criticism or critique and typically err on the defensive side of things if they think someone is going to question their decisions.
Like if there was a post about what developers thought of adspace, Ian would jump on defending why he had so many ads over just giving his opinion. If anyone did question it or offer an alternative, he would get passive aggressive about it. If you ask him about updating pet art the response is, "No, we're a popular pet site and the art has always worked u_u we dont plan on changing."
Ian genuinely thinks because Marapets hasnt gone under and because he's hung around so long, they're popular. That's genuinely how Ian thinks and how he responds to any sort of dissenting opinions. Or at the very least, that's my read of him from when we were both active on the developer forum in 2012-2013. Definitely a dude that should have gotten someone to handle PR and check his ego. Any past changes to the site, I can almost guarantee you were either not pushed by Ian or not made in good faith.
The entirety of my career and most of my hobbies are on screens, so trust me, i understand when you say it's a challenge to unplug. That being said, i think it's beneficial to be more offline, that's why I phrased it as being more online instead of entirely unplugged. I can't afford to be entirely unplugged, and if I could, i wouldn't want it.
As for the complete intolerance of offensive content, that has to be a personal negotiation. Yes, i have the privilege of being white and able bodied. But I do love people who have different body types and ethnicities, and the people I love who fit the ethnicities tokenized by marapets have different standards of offense and tolerance than you do. Having integrity to me means being publicly open about the behaviors i practice in private, which is why I disclosed that I play while disagreeing with the content and hoping that the content changes. I don't financially support marapets after deciding that I disagree with the content. I openly challenge the content and think that my voice on this matter is very important for influencing change on this platform.
Also, i was tired at the end of this video because it was late at night after a day of working, not the subject matter. The video was filmed over the course of a month, my life effects the way I'm presented in the video.
I always appreciate your respectful candor and sharing your perspective.
@@PSJulie pssst, I think this response was meant for someone else
yeah you're right
I've never played marapets and was actually unaware of their edgy reputation. I still found this video a very interesting watch! I really agree with your perspective on things and personally don't want to engage with fatphobic content or content that "tokenizes ethnicities." even despite that, I think your ending comments are very measured and grounded in reality. I think it's healthier even, for people like myself who find that sort of content unacceptable, to merely "click away" and not engage with it rather than pursuing a social media cancellation on a large scale.
Thank you for the thoughtful content! I knew you were binging my channel because of the great comments you left along the way. I really appreciate the engagement!
I’m glad! I was unsure at first if I should comment on older vids but I’m happy to hear it’s welcome! ^^
I remember having an account on this site and quickly losing interest because I found the gameplay boring and the flavor text for a lot of characters mean spirited. It was disappointing to see how the Marapets team responded to criticism but it just encouraged me not to bother going back. Flight Rising, Wolvden, and Lioden are a lot more fun for me than Marapets ever was.
I am disappointed in their response too. 😔
Which game was the relationship building game? I only new about the breeding games and that one looks fun to try. Thanks!
I feel like in the case of BLATANT offensive stuff, that is like.... everyone agrees... but maybe not the creator. That should still just be deleted / purged. But if it's something that is more up for discussion it's ok to just change it. Cause' I feel like if you just replace / change something to a less offensive thing but it's still like, inspired? by it? it's like saying "I don't actually think the first thing was that bad". But it's hard to generalize. Every case can have a slight different point to it. But that's how >I< feel haha. In *reality* I don't think there's any right or wrong in how to fix things as long as you try to fix it and acknowledge it.
Oh god that response was horrible!
Right! It's a textbook example of how not to respond!
@@PSJulie they obviously don’t want admit any wrong doing and it shows. It’s sad because only playing a tiny bit of Mara pets I could see the potential
Okay I got confused by the "sports costume" screenshot while talking about problematic arts and themes in marapets, could someone explain it to me please? 10:43
Nevermind, 15:40
From what I can tell it’s the Basketball playing one having dark fur as if it was a black person.
15:40 does explain it! Good call.
I remember that decapitating fairy. She is terrifying as hell......
I think it's a neat character design.
@@PSJulie yes but the fact that the website is made for kids is actually scary for them
Is it made for kids?
@@PSJulie It think it''s made for people 16 and over.
On this matter, have you played Subeta? They definitely competed with both Mara and Neo at their peak and I feel like they're the one site that aged the best.
I don't have an experience or history with Subeta. :(
I'm playing Subeta currently.
I like it more than Mara cause all the pets I like on Mara are limited edition.... :(
On Subeta I managed to get a whole army of a rare color....
Does anyone know the game at 21:47
Flight rising
@@PSJulie Thank you
have you played mweor? i briefly skimmed your channel and didnt see anything, but its pretty fun and i would def watch a video of you checking it out
I think I have an account but haven't played very much.
loved the risk tolerance part.
Thank you!
Marapets sorta sounds like a parody of Neopets I would see in a show like South Park or Arthur.
God Julie idk what I would do without you since I’m in neojail right now
Neojail? You're banned?
what happened with Everskies to make it rocket up to like 100k accounts, and then suddenly close all their user content features until launch, is also Very Interesting
It went viral on tiktok. The lack of moderators made the forums a cesspool of inappropriate content. They shut down registration until they could launch and focus on moderators. (From what I understand, correct me if I'm wrong.)
@@PSJulie Yeah, the lack of US-based moderators exacerbated it, but there were thousands of users in the Discord at any given time getting in arguments in some of the channels, and multiple mods got called out by the newer users for saying pretty questionable things in the Discord a few months before the game went viral. It was pretty wild watching the outrage, especially seeing the channels get spammed in and then deleted one by one when they shut down all the user discussion platforms.
Toxic culture is lame, accountability culture is where it's at. You see something you don't you can call it out and if it's not too egregious, you disengage. I'm more of a put your money where your mouth is type of activist, if you feel strongly about some sort of social injustice, contribute physically. Often the most tangible way to improve things is to give the spotlight to positive things.
Good insight!
“In a very popular game” lol ok
i'm looking and trying to understand which game he's talking about lol. couldnt be marapets
@@PSJulie He was actually referring to Fairy Flight, which is one of the more popular games on the site and you get to play the fairy in question as your default character. I’ve never seen anyone actually clarify this and it was driving me crazy XD
Have you heard of Subeta? I would be interested in your commentary on it.
I referenced subeta at a later part in the video (18:26), but I am not familiar enough with the content to do it justice with a video.
@@PSJulie oh ok I missed that part
@@PSJulie
You should try looking into Subeta some time!
Looks way better than neopets at this point
Neopets is an over-funded and under-developed version of Marapets
By responding so poorly to that Twitter thread, Marapets has effectively cut itself off from a new base of potential players (people aged 16-20, born in the 2000s). As a 2001 baby, I just missed the target age range for Neopets when it was big and didn't grow up with it. I play browser-based virtual pet games daily as an adult, but since I had no attachment to Neopets, it followed that I didn't even know what Marapets was until this debacle on Twitter. If I hadn't researched the site a bit more, then my only impression of Marapets would still be 'virtual pet game with harmful content that can't listen to criticism'. And no one wants to play a game like that!
Have you tried Power Pets? It's got lots of great content,and there's nothing insulting about anyone in the game.
I haven't tried it, but I appreciate the recommendation! Thank you~
Interesting and informative video
Thank you!
I get having some bad content in your history and there should definitely be space to change it - but a silent change with no apology or "we'll do better"? I mean nothing is perfect obvs - I love Subeta, it's welcoming and open and friendly and tends to deal with this stuff pretty well; but one NPC (drunk Carl) has some dialogue that I read as "he got handsy/abusive toward his servers" but it's played like a joke. At some point I was like "wow, that's kinda screwed up" and made a comment to the team about it, but it didn't get a response. The game's not canceled because of that. But having such an extensive record of offensive content and bad hiring practices with no public apology, no remorse, and making fun of the users who complain? I mean, I for one am certainly not gonna play Marapets.
it’s not risk tolerance it’s human decency. you HAVE to work, so it’s absolutely cruel of our coworkers to FORCE you to be exposed to their bad behavior just because they don’t care if they get other people sick. i have been immunocompromised for too long to give in to the whims of selfish individuals. and no..... having a job or not having a job isn’t a “choice”.
I didn't even know this was going on but I'll see what the video is about
Let me know what you think!
@@PSJulie Honestly not surprised since I kinda found a few things a bit off about some of the stuff but than again I actually never paid attention to any of that or found it offensive. As I said I before to someone else I might just be clueless to situations like these.
I honestly found Marapets easier to progress in than I did Neopets, though some of that may be because I started trying with Neo when I was a kid and didn't understand it, lol. But I think it really does have a lot of potential, just needs to actually look at that and decide how they want to go about it. I really had a few months of a stretch of playing both, and haven't since, but that's more the depression and lack of motivation, I'd say, lmao
12:36 This happens all the time. The Neopets community is extremely circlejerky (specially the Discord)
It's unfortunate how groups do this!
there 100% is a market for offensive content even in pet games, I dont think most pet games go after this market.
It's a fun site with plenty to do but there's a heavy bias in favor of older players.
They tend to win the big stuff like lottery/raffle and bi weekly AU cash shop credits etc.
The site owner does all the work so when he disappears the site basically has to wait for how ever long it takes for him to come back to fix any problems
13:13
Floofy Cat
Marapets has a very big fan following 😋 I’ve played it for years, but more into collecting avatars and getting the cute costumes 😍 Only started to play Neopets again now :)
i've played it for six months--i see the problems, but it's a fun site for me and i have adblock and don't buy au with my own money, so idk how much support ian is getting from me
A bit late to the party here, but I really like your breakdown of the subject matter in this video. I loved Marapets before the pandemic but eventually lost interest due to some site changes as well as the offensive characters. I knew it was a Neopets knockoff when I joined, but I didn't realize it was supposed to be its edgy little brother, so to speak. I love the pet designs, but I simply decided to remove myself from that negativity. Again, awesome coverage, definitely subscribing!
Great breakdown! I enjoy the heck out of the site but there's also nothing wrong with challenging problematic aspects.
Some of the fat pets are lowkey adorable even if a lot about the site is really insensitive... I'd have paid for it if I grew up playing Marapets instead of Neopets, lol. Heck, I'd pay for some chubbier Neopets wearables now even. ;u;
I think part of the problem comes in that it bills itself as a "parody" of Neopets. Especially considering the head admin and I have to assume a lot of the rest of the staff were teenagers in the beginning, so it has a lot of that Newgrounds flavor to it. It's kind of fun in that "Internet Wild West Dr Rabbit YTPs and sprite comics" way but also kind of scummy in the "this is all coming downstream from 4chan" way. :(
wow I had no idea that this was even going on with marapets!! also that response was terrible haha
It was a whole sack of YIKES
"this is a girl's space"
*confused trans man noises*
I'm not sure how google categorizes people, but you're welcome here all the same! :)
also I'm sorry if this hurt you! you are valid!
@@PSJulie ahh ty!
Yo we need your help with this the costume headless removes there head and considering there being many children playing it may be disturbing
That's a feature, not a flaw. It's metal as heck and i love it.
Muy súper bueno video súper amiga👍
Gracias!
I think marapets would be more enjoyable with more players, would help the economy. New players are quitting quickly because economy is too hard, plus theres drew missions for the early progress goals. Sigh, quests should pay out more the economies changed since the site started. And Ian's character doll is always dressed inappropriately, it's disgusting. I think the fat fairy is funny though 🤣 and I'm glad they changed the mental costume but their rude remarks on news log about it really pissed me off.
Friend me though... Ziggystardustt.
And another thing whilst I'm at it, i am NOT going through your blog to find a photo you don't have, if I offer a swap you check your own blog list, sigh.
You can critique just respect when people don't change. Forgive me but, it is like going into someone's home saying you don't like their lamp and getting mad when they don't throw it away.
lmao
yes