Got these shoes for a physical test for the PD. I’m not a runner and this is my first pair of running shoes ever and im very happy with them. 6’2 235lbs and they were comfortable in the 1.5 mile run.
I like these shoes.....Great support and has the rollforward for street running. My biggest gripe is the material holds the heat in a lot. My feet never would sweat during my stair session.Now they sweat like crazy. I might have to return for that reason.
These aren’t any less breathable than those shoes in my tests. Odd one? Is it possible it was a particularly hot/humid day, or you had thicker socks on?
Let me know if you have any questions or if you’re just not sure which running shoes you need and need some pointers, just let me know your situation and I’ll get you hooked up with the best running shoes for you. Your loyal running shoe expert, Alastair.
Hello Alastair! Hope this message finds you well! I'm currently looking into purchasing these shoes, I suffer from metatarsalgia and I plan to buy the shoes to alleviate my pain. Do you think they'd be a good fit for me? I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thank you!
Hey there 👋🏼 oh no these won’t be for you- the firm ride will no doubt agitate your metatarsalgia. You’d be better placed with a more supportive shoe with better cushioning until you can get it healed up. I’d recommend something like the Saucony Hurricane 24: th-cam.com/video/yVi_C-Z6om4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TwB3CVI0eLr0uqEs - these are other great stability shoes I’ve reviewed: www.trailandkale.com/roundups/best-stability-running-shoes/
How do the Cloudsurfer 7 and Cloudsurfer next compare to the earlier versions of the Cloudsurfer? I currently run in Cloudsurfer 5s and love them. But i don't know a similar shoe or how they compare to the new Cloudsurfer versions?
If you love the cloudsurfer 5, you’ll much prefer the cloudsurfer 7 over the cloudsurfer next, which has a firmer ride. I much prefer the Cloudsurfer 7.
@trailandkale Thank you :) But aren't the 5s pretty firm so more like the next? I don't have a lot of comparison but i feel Like my 5s are pretty firm and stable which i prefer over max cushion
I tried them on at their running club in Berlin and I must say they were to stiff/hard for me. I am more used to softer shoes. Would you say they are softer than the Norda 001? I never had the chance to try them on and everyone say it’s quite a hard shoe.
Hello! Hallux rigidus patient here, and I have feet that are a bit wide on the toes. Need something with a stiff forefoot to rock me forward and prevent toe extension. Toe box needs to be the widest possible with plenty of volume. Unfortunately no 2E sizes in my country. Oh and I do 95% walking, little to no running. I tried these at a retail store and they are perfect in terms of stiffness and how I like my cushioning, but I wish there was more width in the toebox (volume is good). Wondering if there’s another On shoe out there that can solve this without compromising on what worked for this model. Limited portfolio at the local store, so would need to order online
Hey Bruno! I think you narrowed your shoe choice down really well actually on you comment on my website (if you're looking to buy a pair of On's specifically). The Cloudeclipse does have a wide toe box and because of the plate it's also a stiff midsole. It's one of my top picks for wide running shoes: www.trailandkale.com/roundups/the-best-running-shoes-for-wide-feet/ and it's a top On Cloud for walking: www.trailandkale.com/roundups/best-on-cloud-shoes-for-walking/ - Hope this helps give you confidence that the Cloudeclipse is probably the right On for you! -Alastair
@@trailandkale I meant wide sizes not available! I did end up finding these models to try at different stores, and the cloudeclipse is the best choice. The cloudmonster is def wider at the toebox, but it felt awkward for walking. The only thing I found strange in the cloudeclipse is how there ZERO arch support. Waiting for Black Friday now lol
Hello Alastair! I currently work in retail for stocking overnight 7-8 hours each night and I’m looking for a good pair of running shoes cause most of the night I am running and going fast up and down the aisles, which shoes would you specifically recommend? I’m looking for something that has a soft foam and kind of like mesh on the upper outside shoes, I’ve been wearing Puma running shoes recently.
Bloody hell you must be fit! 💪🏼 here are a few recommendations based on your helpful info (watch my reviews of each to learn more about them - I’m also going to link to my written reviews for each as the specs and such may be easier to quickly compare them with one another): ASICS Glideride Max (www.trailandkale.com/shoe-reviews/asics-glideride-max-review/), Mount To Coast S1 (www.trailandkale.com/shoe-reviews/mount-to-coast-s1-review/), Hoka Clifton 9 (www.trailandkale.com/shoe-reviews/hoka-clifton-9-review/). Hope this helps point you in the right direction! -Alastair
I’m afraid to get them because I would think over time it would collapse on itself from weight and pounding way faster than a regular running shoe. What do you think?
Actually the foam is very resilient, depending on weight I guess. But I have never noticed collapse on Cloudtec Phase midsoles before getting to the end of a shoe lifespan (400 miles or so).
@@trailandkale wow good to know, I’m not heavy but I’m pretty tall so I think it should be good. I have a lot of buddies who love this shoe but they’re shorter and lighter so I was a little sceptical. Thank you for your advice, I will probably go to a store soon and try them on
This or runner2 for running but also for walking either on weekends or in city break holiday? Also is this upper as roomy as the surfer 7 , which is really good
@ yeah it looks much better if you wear it with jeans. I think it’s office appropriate as well right? I wanted all round sneaker that I can wear anywhere. But the wide feet is an issue. Hopefully it fits me well.
No, some examples would be the Hoka Skyward X, the On Cloudmonster Hyper, and from the ASICS brand you’ve got the Superblast 2. A super trainer with ends to have a carbon plate, and a high stack height. They’re very versatile as they’re responsive, and cushioned - making them good for fast workouts and long runs. You can search for all of those on the channel to learn more about them ✌🏼
There are better option out there for you needs for sure. You want a road to trail shoe that can handle stable walks and grip on off road surfaces. I’d recommend starting here: th-cam.com/video/7COsXj0oMcc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=h9GgdNvuqgZPWT3-
ON shoes especially the Cloudsurfers had some problems with squeaking noises after a while of using. So my question is does anyone have these Cloudsurfer Nexts and can tell me if they squeak? Thanks in advance!
@@trailandkaleHi! Have you finished your article regarding the On Squeaking? I issued warranty and ON will give me two pairs of any model. Can’t stand the squeaking of my Eclipses
Got these shoes for a physical test for the PD. I’m not a runner and this is my first pair of running shoes ever and im very happy with them. 6’2 235lbs and they were comfortable in the 1.5 mile run.
Awesome, thanks for sharing! P.S. hope the physical went well! -A
@ thank you! I passed the agility tests. These were VERY comfortable in the 1.5 mile run and honestly made the difference in pass or fail lol
@clintcarter5218 that’s what I like to hear! Congrats! 💪🏼
I like these shoes.....Great support and has the rollforward for street running. My biggest gripe is the material holds the heat in a lot. My feet never would sweat during my stair session.Now they sweat like crazy. I might have to return for that reason.
What shoes were you wearing before? These aren't 'not' breathable...
@trailandkale Brooks GTS, Oncloud Cloudstratus.
These aren’t any less breathable than those shoes in my tests. Odd one? Is it possible it was a particularly hot/humid day, or you had thicker socks on?
Let me know if you have any questions or if you’re just not sure which running shoes you need and need some pointers, just let me know your situation and I’ll get you hooked up with the best running shoes for you. Your loyal running shoe expert, Alastair.
help me choose sir, for daily trainer asics novablast 5 or cloudsurfer next?
@klemens1874 what do you like in a shoe? These two are very different
Thanks for the review. Now I know this one is nit for me. Time to check out the Cloudsurfer 7.
A better choice
Hello Alastair! Hope this message finds you well! I'm currently looking into purchasing these shoes, I suffer from metatarsalgia and I plan to buy the shoes to alleviate my pain. Do you think they'd be a good fit for me? I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thank you!
Hey there 👋🏼 oh no these won’t be for you- the firm ride will no doubt agitate your metatarsalgia. You’d be better placed with a more supportive shoe with better cushioning until you can get it healed up. I’d recommend something like the Saucony Hurricane 24: th-cam.com/video/yVi_C-Z6om4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TwB3CVI0eLr0uqEs - these are other great stability shoes I’ve reviewed: www.trailandkale.com/roundups/best-stability-running-shoes/
How do the Cloudsurfer 7 and Cloudsurfer next compare to the earlier versions of the Cloudsurfer? I currently run in Cloudsurfer 5s and love them. But i don't know a similar shoe or how they compare to the new Cloudsurfer versions?
If you love the cloudsurfer 5, you’ll much prefer the cloudsurfer 7 over the cloudsurfer next, which has a firmer ride. I much prefer the Cloudsurfer 7.
@trailandkale Thank you :)
But aren't the 5s pretty firm so more like the next? I don't have a lot of comparison but i feel Like my 5s are pretty firm and stable which i prefer over max cushion
Thank you for the review. My adidas is size 10, should I take the same size Clsurfer? Tnx again
Yes, definitely go with your usual sizing
I tried them on at their running club in Berlin and I must say they were to stiff/hard for me. I am more used to softer shoes. Would you say they are softer than the Norda 001? I never had the chance to try them on and everyone say it’s quite a hard shoe.
Unfortunately I haven’t had any experience with the Norda 001. The cloudsurfer 7 feels a lot more cushioned, did you try them?
@@trailandkale okay, no only with the cloud monster hyper, they were super soft😅
The cloudsurfer feels even softer
@@trailandkaleokay that’s crazy. Maybe they break in a lot more over time. The pair I tested were brand new and I only ran with them for 7km.
I mean the cloudsurfer 7 is even softer. The ‘Next’ is very stiff
Hello! Hallux rigidus patient here, and I have feet that are a bit wide on the toes. Need something with a stiff forefoot to rock me forward and prevent toe extension. Toe box needs to be the widest possible with plenty of volume. Unfortunately no 2E sizes in my country. Oh and I do 95% walking, little to no running.
I tried these at a retail store and they are perfect in terms of stiffness and how I like my cushioning, but I wish there was more width in the toebox (volume is good). Wondering if there’s another On shoe out there that can solve this without compromising on what worked for this model. Limited portfolio at the local store, so would need to order online
Hey Bruno! I think you narrowed your shoe choice down really well actually on you comment on my website (if you're looking to buy a pair of On's specifically). The Cloudeclipse does have a wide toe box and because of the plate it's also a stiff midsole. It's one of my top picks for wide running shoes: www.trailandkale.com/roundups/the-best-running-shoes-for-wide-feet/ and it's a top On Cloud for walking: www.trailandkale.com/roundups/best-on-cloud-shoes-for-walking/ - Hope this helps give you confidence that the Cloudeclipse is probably the right On for you! -Alastair
They make these in wide
@ not available in my country
@brunis_m that’s a shame
@@trailandkale I meant wide sizes not available! I did end up finding these models to try at different stores, and the cloudeclipse is the best choice. The cloudmonster is def wider at the toebox, but it felt awkward for walking. The only thing I found strange in the cloudeclipse is how there ZERO arch support. Waiting for Black Friday now lol
Does it have a carbon plate?
No it doesnt
Hello Alastair! I currently work in retail for stocking overnight 7-8 hours each night and I’m looking for a good pair of running shoes cause most of the night I am running and going fast up and down the aisles, which shoes would you specifically recommend? I’m looking for something that has a soft foam and kind of like mesh on the upper outside shoes, I’ve been wearing Puma running shoes recently.
Bloody hell you must be fit! 💪🏼 here are a few recommendations based on your helpful info (watch my reviews of each to learn more about them - I’m also going to link to my written reviews for each as the specs and such may be easier to quickly compare them with one another): ASICS Glideride Max (www.trailandkale.com/shoe-reviews/asics-glideride-max-review/), Mount To Coast S1 (www.trailandkale.com/shoe-reviews/mount-to-coast-s1-review/), Hoka Clifton 9 (www.trailandkale.com/shoe-reviews/hoka-clifton-9-review/). Hope this helps point you in the right direction! -Alastair
Nimbus 26 or NB v13/14
I’m afraid to get them because I would think over time it would collapse on itself from weight and pounding way faster than a regular running shoe. What do you think?
Actually the foam is very resilient, depending on weight I guess. But I have never noticed collapse on Cloudtec Phase midsoles before getting to the end of a shoe lifespan (400 miles or so).
@@trailandkale wow good to know, I’m not heavy but I’m pretty tall so I think it should be good. I have a lot of buddies who love this shoe but they’re shorter and lighter so I was a little sceptical. Thank you for your advice, I will probably go to a store soon and try them on
Let me know how you get on!
This or runner2 for running but also for walking either on weekends or in city break holiday? Also is this upper as roomy as the surfer 7 , which is really good
Hey 👋🏼 I think this one would be great for what you need it for. It fits a lot like the cloudsurfer 7
@@trailandkale Thanks. Would the hyper be also a good running and casual shoe or not?
These shoes are for long runs or for speed sessions?
More for speed
I have wider feet. Should I go for cloud tilt or cloud surfer next? I am going to use it to walk
Both have a medium width but I’d say the cloudsurfer next is slightly wider.
@ thank you. I love the look of the cloud tilt but haven’t tried it out yet. I think it would go better with jeans as well
Probably, the Cloudtilt is more of a lifestyle shoe
@ yeah it looks much better if you wear it with jeans. I think it’s office appropriate as well right? I wanted all round sneaker that I can wear anywhere. But the wide feet is an issue. Hopefully it fits me well.
What would be called a "super daily trainer"? Maybe something like a novablast 4?
No, some examples would be the Hoka Skyward X, the On Cloudmonster Hyper, and from the ASICS brand you’ve got the Superblast 2. A super trainer with ends to have a carbon plate, and a high stack height. They’re very versatile as they’re responsive, and cushioned - making them good for fast workouts and long runs. You can search for all of those on the channel to learn more about them ✌🏼
do you think these shoes would be good for casual wear, walking and hiking? is it stable and breathable and is the traction good enough?
There are better option out there for you needs for sure. You want a road to trail shoe that can handle stable walks and grip on off road surfaces. I’d recommend starting here: th-cam.com/video/7COsXj0oMcc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=h9GgdNvuqgZPWT3-
ON shoes especially the Cloudsurfers had some problems with squeaking noises after a while of using. So my question is does anyone have these Cloudsurfer Nexts and can tell me if they squeak? Thanks in advance!
I have them and they don’t squeak so far. I’m actually writing an article why this happens and how to fix it! I’ll make a video version too.
@@trailandkale Thanks for your feedback, looking forward to the article!
Here it is: www.trailandkale.com/tips/how-to-stop-on-cloud-shoes-squeaking/
@@trailandkaleHi! Have you finished your article regarding the On Squeaking? I issued warranty and ON will give me two pairs of any model. Can’t stand the squeaking of my Eclipses
@mateuscabrera I did! Here it is :) www.trailandkale.com/tips/how-to-stop-on-cloud-shoes-squeaking/