Richard Wagner - Siegfried Idyll

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  • - Composer: Wilhelm Richard Wagner (22 May 1813 -- 13 February 1883)
    - Orchestra: Münchner Philharmoniker
    - Conductor: Sergiu Celibidache
    - Year of recording: 1993 (Live in Philharmonie am Gasteig, München)
    Siegfried Idyll, symphonic poem for small orchestra in E major, WWV 103, written in 1870.
    Apart from the operas, Wagner composed a small number of pieces; this stems from his reluctance to conceive music which didn't belong to the sacredness of the drama, fundamental expression of his thought.
    The full title on the original manuscript of Wagner's Siegfried Idyll reads, "Tribschen-Idyll, with Fidi-Birdsong and Orange Sunrise, presented as a symphonic birthday greeting to his Cosima by her Richard, 1870." The "Siegfried" in the title does not refer to the composer's opera of the same name, as is often supposed, but to his infant son, whose pet name was "Fidi." The "orange sunrise" refers to the colour of Cosima's bedroom wallpaper, which brightly reflected the morning light. Though the work is sometimes heard in an arrangement for full orchestra, Wagner originally wrote it for an ensemble of 15 players. Having prepared and rehearsed the work in secret, Wagner gathered his small orchestra on the stairway on Christmas morning, 1870, and awakened Cosima with its first performance (Cosima's birthday was 24 December; the Wagner family celebrated that day and the Christmas holiday together). Afterward, Wagner and Cosima's five children presented her with the score.
    As is reflected in the uncharacteristically (for Wagner) modest scoring, the Siegfried Idyll is a particularly intimate work, meant to acknowledge and celebrate the year that Wagner and Cosima could finally legitimize their union. Several stressful years had passed since Cosima had left her first husband, the conductor Hans von Bülow, in 1866. The divorce was finalized at last in 1870, and in August of that year Cosima and Wagner wed.
    Wagner wrote Siegfried Idyll while he was occupied with the completing and intial staging of Der Ring des Nibelungen. The music for Siegfried (1856-71), the third part of the cycle, had caused the composer great difficulty; he had set it aside in frustration in 1857, returning to it only in 1869. Wagner borrowed Siegfried Idyll's principal themes from Siegfried and Die Walküre (1854-56), where they have specific meanings within the cycle's system of leitmotives. Within the context in Siegfried Idyll, however, these themes are take on a more general nature as expressions of triumphant love and affection.
    Wagner had never intended to publish this work, but financial problems forced him to make it public in 1877.
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  • @amerrylittlemonarch
    @amerrylittlemonarch ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That ending...
    It teems with drama, suspense, and gratification in such an inimitably delightful way!

  • @zaftra
    @zaftra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Never ceases to amaze how simple this music looks on a score.

  • @nagihcimekal
    @nagihcimekal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My favorite piece forever; it wrings my heart.

  • @davidproudfoot9985
    @davidproudfoot9985 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    What a birthday gift to receive. Aparently the trumpeter done rehearsals in the middle of a lake in order to no give the secret away.Fantastic story for a remarkable piece.

    • @markhughes7927
      @markhughes7927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wasn’t the trumpeter wagner himself? I seem to remember something like that - he certainly learned something unusual.

    • @annavanstralen3841
      @annavanstralen3841 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markhughes7927 i think i remember that the trumpeter was a houseguest with them in the leadup to christmas.

    • @JohanHerrenberg
      @JohanHerrenberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think it was the horn-player, and it was Hans Richter, iirc, who was to become a great Wagner conductor.

    • @MaestroTJS
      @MaestroTJS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markhughes7927 The trumpeter was conductor Hans Richter.

  • @TheodoreServin
    @TheodoreServin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Ludwig" (1973) brought me here. There is a beautiful scene in the movie dramatizing that special birthday-Christmas, where an orchestra is really playing on the staircase of the mansion the family was living, and Cosima and her children are awakened by the beautiful orchestral music. It really captures the event wonderfully.

  • @tylerhannsz317
    @tylerhannsz317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5:20 makes me very emotional and then 17:40 makes me even MORE emotional

  • @VallaMusic
    @VallaMusic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    one of the most perfectly magical and beautiful pieces of music ever 2 my ears

  • @lyricsronen
    @lyricsronen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wow what an incredible piece! So much beauty and longing. You can see here the extent of Wagner's understanding of harmony and its effect on the listener. The phrase that always brings me to tears is starting from 1:00, finally resting at 1:18. What a gorgeous 9th!

  • @mrtchaikovsky
    @mrtchaikovsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    It is interesting to see how Wagner incorporated a few leitmotifs from the "Ring":
    The music at 0:21 is taken from the love duet between Brünnhilde and Siegfried at the end of "Siegfried".
    The sleep-motif from the finale of "Die Walküre" can be heard in the flute at 2:37, followed by slight variations; it returns in the oboe at 14:46.
    The horn plays a love-motif from "Siegfried" at 13:38 and reprises it at 19:52.
    The figure in the strings at 14:13 is a motif of bliss from the third act of "Siegfried".
    The call of the forest bird from the second act of "Siegfried" is used at 15:30, followed by its prophetic warning at 15:35.
    In conclusion, Wagner used motifs related to love, peace and nature, as one would deem fitting for a birthday present.

    • @pepijnstreng4643
      @pepijnstreng4643 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You say "taken from Siegfried" - in fact, Wagner wrote this 6 years before "Siegfried". So those motifs in Siegfried are taken from this piece!

    • @mrtchaikovsky
      @mrtchaikovsky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pepijnstreng4643 To quote Wikipedia:
      The composition of Acts I and II [of Siegfried] was completed by August 1857. Wagner then left off work on Siegfried to write the operas Tristan und Isolde and Die Meistersinger. He did not resume work on Siegfried until 1869, when he composed the third act. The final revision of the score was undertaken in February 1871. Performance was withheld until the first complete production of the Ring cycle, at Bayreuth in August 1876.

    • @pepijnstreng4643
      @pepijnstreng4643 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrtchaikovsky well I'll be damned!

  • @eugelmusic
    @eugelmusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Incredible harmony work. I'm amazed... Moment at 17:42 - 17:47 is like a heart of the whole composition, it is a painful pleasure! I love Wagner and i love how he accents moments of the most beautiful chord and intellectual tension. This music makes me shiver.. it is so human, so close, i'm happy through tears and crying through joy.

    • @leodreamguitar7463
      @leodreamguitar7463 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its just pure transcendental miracle of beauty and joy

    • @empanadasfritas7142
      @empanadasfritas7142 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      " I'm amazed..." FU.
      Just shut up and listen.
      What do you even know about Wagner or Sigfride?
      You are traying to be so intelectual and you are just stupid.
      Just for once, shut up listen till you are 50 years old at least.
      Then we talk.

    • @empanadasfritas7142
      @empanadasfritas7142 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "most beautiful chord and intellectual tension" Dude? For real?!
      Do you even know who Wagner or Sigfried was or were?
      My man was building Movie Teathers on 1860S

  • @emilkp3352
    @emilkp3352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    No todo en Wagner es épica y grandilocuencia. También hay lugar para obras intimistas. El lado más desconocido de un genio
    Not all is grandilocuence in Wagner, there is also room for intimist works. The most unknown size of a genius

  • @diegeigergarnele7975
    @diegeigergarnele7975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great last seat dragging at 22:20 😂
    I can imagine Celibidache's face as this happened

  • @philipthonemann2524
    @philipthonemann2524 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dear Olla, Remarkably helpful for my study of composition! Many thanks, as always. Philip

  • @cocoelane
    @cocoelane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you for your effort to make this video! perfect preparation for tomorrow‘s gig ✨

  • @JohanHerrenberg
    @JohanHerrenberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great performance of a very personal and magical piece.

  • @arvstephenson1107
    @arvstephenson1107 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Truly inspirational piece of music.

  • @henrypark4356
    @henrypark4356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have to play this song in for orchestra this year, and the score looks really simple, yet the song is so beautiful :)

  • @nandonizama7310
    @nandonizama7310 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Llega a tener especial y profundo sentido cuando conoces la génesis de tan bella obra.

  • @plekkchand
    @plekkchand 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for uploading the score for this masterpiece. I am making a transcription.

  • @corvinmatei2181
    @corvinmatei2181 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Absolutely fantastic. I am short of words! The details, phrasing, tension and expressiveness are very difficult to achieve. He knew what and how to get from the strings unbelievably. Impossible to match this! What a Master.

    • @clavichord
      @clavichord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You mean Richard Wager, the conductor Sergiu Celibidache, or a combimation of both?

    • @amerrylittlemonarch
      @amerrylittlemonarch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clavichord"Richard Wager" 💀

    • @amerrylittlemonarch
      @amerrylittlemonarch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clavichordThis commenter is referring to the composer, Richard Wagner.

  • @timotheuspeter734
    @timotheuspeter734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Celibidache‘s tempo is perfect for that kind of „reprise“ section from 18:46 onwards - I have never heard that descending clarinet more poignantly beautiful.

  • @nicholaslopez2185
    @nicholaslopez2185 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for uploading

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gorgeous. Simply gorgeous.

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    measure 340 for ex. : the sound every composer tried to reach later

  • @leonardosonn1205
    @leonardosonn1205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Geniale interpretazione !!! La migliore che abbia sentito.

  • @MrTheodicy
    @MrTheodicy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing

  • @innocenzobarrera1505
    @innocenzobarrera1505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bellissimo!

  • @yuehchopin
    @yuehchopin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    nette Sendung, danke!

  • @diegeigergarnele7975
    @diegeigergarnele7975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The ending of this idyll gave me the feeling of a peaceful death after Mahler 2nd symphony finale

    • @zvezdinki7998
      @zvezdinki7998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Die Geigergarnele what is idyll ? What it means?

    • @Operafreak9
      @Operafreak9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh yes Mahler's Second, a fitting companion to Wagner. Perhaps the only one.

    • @f.p.2010
      @f.p.2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zvezdinki7998 something like a peaceful state (of mind)

    • @f.p.2010
      @f.p.2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Operafreak9 nah, all Mahler symphonies apply

    • @zvezdinki7998
      @zvezdinki7998 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Erinyien Phantasm if this is possible for Wagner

  • @MaestroTJS
    @MaestroTJS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Regardless of what you may think of the piece itself, this has to rank as one of the greatest presents of all time, maybe THE greatest, especially when one considers the type of person Wagner was most of the time. Hopefully Cosima was appreciative!

  • @user-ru8vy1uz7c
    @user-ru8vy1uz7c 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Браво гениально написано и сыграно

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    jumps of 9th on the strings, mediant modulation, we cannot employ it anymore like before...

  • @andrewrichesson8627
    @andrewrichesson8627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    If only Wagner wrote more orchestral works like this...

    • @tr7938
      @tr7938 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This and the overture to Tristan stand as his best, in my mind.

    • @christianwouters6764
      @christianwouters6764 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely. I mostly regret when the singers become involved. It just doesn't sound right: shrieking and growling and one can't understand a word anyway. This piece shows that opera is better without the singers.

    • @leodreamguitar7463
      @leodreamguitar7463 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@christianwouters6764 lol

    • @mustysheep3977
      @mustysheep3977 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@christianwouters6764 it is still good when. in real life they sound a lot better. It is only the recordings where it fails and can sound screechy.

    • @chpnlzt
      @chpnlzt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christianwouters6764 - THIS IS A SPECIAL PIECE HE WROTE FOR HIS NEW WIFE FOR HER BIRTHDAY, AND HE WOKE HER UP TO AN ORCHESTRA PLAYING THIS AT THEIR HOUSE ONE CHRISTMAS MORNING, THIS WAS NEVER ANY PART OF AN OPERA, OR EVER HAD ANY SINGING - MYSELF I LIKE SOME OF THE GREAT OPERA ARIAS, BUT THE SINGING OF DIALOG IN AN OPERA I CAN DO WITHOUT, AND I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT THE SINGERS ....

  • @originaltommy
    @originaltommy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It really is an extraordinary composition. I'm very fond of it and there are some moments that have me swooning. I think that was the intent? lol

  • @likie
    @likie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder, and it is appreciated.

  • @hello-rq8kf
    @hello-rq8kf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Measures 330 through 350 have to be the single most beautiful 20 measures in all music

  • @philipkuttner7945
    @philipkuttner7945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maestro, it's not slow ENOUGH--I'm still awake.

  • @williamfkoreniii9808
    @williamfkoreniii9808 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From the soul of Wagner ... to the hands of Sergiu Celibidache ... we are brought into the arms of God!

  • @h.r.f.schotanus9654
    @h.r.f.schotanus9654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    gespeeld in het Wagenings studentenorkest als concertmeester onder Dick Blokbergen in 1960-1961 mooie herinnering!

  • @italia8705
    @italia8705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing lovely pastoral sounds from the Great Wagner

  • @clavichord
    @clavichord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wagner's Siegfrield Idyll and Celibidache conducting are a sublime combination. Celibidache may be unorthodox in some of his slower conducting at times... but you know.. I appreciated it... Celibidache is Celibidache. He forces you to concentrate on the details.

  • @papagen00
    @papagen00 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy Birthday Richard 🎉 🎂

  • @Lerkovac
    @Lerkovac 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Blijft mooi.

    • @clavichord
      @clavichord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wordt wakker met Wagners Siegfried Idyll en je dag kan niet meer stuk....

  • @musik350
    @musik350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    19:50 Meistersinger

  • @amrahShsakaA
    @amrahShsakaA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Larry David

  • @lawmain2864
    @lawmain2864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my god, it's Sergiu Celibidache

  • @ashleythorpe7933
    @ashleythorpe7933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:20 Very similar to a passage in Mahler's Totenfeier

  • @GYMCENTRAL1
    @GYMCENTRAL1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wells Cathedral School Showcase Concert on Saturday 4 May 2019
    Chamber
    Music
    Thomas Nettle (conductor)
    Springtime highlights from the School’s specialist musicians’ performance programme, including a rare chance to hear Wagner’s ultra-romantic Siegfried Idyll @t​

  • @jamesnixon2243
    @jamesnixon2243 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wilhelm Richard Wagner (Saturday 22 May 1813 - Tuesday 13 February 1883).

  • @moins_vif
    @moins_vif 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks, Larry David

  • @gyuro7988
    @gyuro7988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I decided to choose this piece for a BRIEF analysis in my music class. I couldn't help but write a 1000 word analysis just for the piece. The entire piece of word (including Wagner's biography) was 2000 words. His music is surreal, especially this piece that contrasts with his other works. His life is the one thing that bothers me... what a horrible man to write such amazing music!

    • @truthfearsnoinvestigation
      @truthfearsnoinvestigation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A horrible man 🤔…
      Why because he knew and spoke the truth about a certain t r i b e?
      It’s the 21st century, there is way too much information that exists to remain in the dark!

    • @andrewnix6480
      @andrewnix6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@truthfearsnoinvestigation eat slugs

    • @arisowizard7178
      @arisowizard7178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@truthfearsnoinvestigation like literally, phrases like these don't belong in this world at all!

    • @truthfearsnoinvestigation
      @truthfearsnoinvestigation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arisowizard7178 what the truth?
      The truth is only hate to those who hate the truth.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Believe me, a good composer could be as a butthole as imaginable. That certainly doesn't change the fact that they are a good composer.

  • @s1cksadworld
    @s1cksadworld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where could I buy this? Sorry struggling to find :(

  • @bpogueg2
    @bpogueg2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Larry David brought me here.

    • @cattyelse2372
      @cattyelse2372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So what do you think of it?

    • @bpogueg2
      @bpogueg2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      catty else sublime 👍

    • @eddieplachno8204
      @eddieplachno8204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why didn’t you just give them candy?

    • @srividhya6876
      @srividhya6876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @rkwittem
      @rkwittem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How?

  • @empanadasfritas7142
    @empanadasfritas7142 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Conduct minor string groups after 5 years in a conservatory and real love for Wagner this still my favorite. Wagner did this to Impress Nietche in some way. This is perfection even if you dont like it.

  • @davidrehak3539
    @davidrehak3539 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Richard Wagner:Siegfried-Idill WWV 103
    Müncheni Filharmonikus Zenekar
    Vezényel:Sergiu Celibidache

  • @sissiwang907
    @sissiwang907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The clarinet makes a few wrong notes at 8:12, maybe he/she forgot to transpose the score.

  • @user-jh1ty3dk7m
    @user-jh1ty3dk7m ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤

  • @karipalacios7
    @karipalacios7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤💐🎧🌱

  • @BernardSAUSSAIE
    @BernardSAUSSAIE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    *Nothing is worth the entire opera. I am always terrified at seeing people who are satisfied with Wagner extracts.*

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    its silly how he makes me fell i lost the relation to the infinite

    • @elisabethc.dieryckx1218
      @elisabethc.dieryckx1218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "how he makes me FALL......so uma notinha simpatica para voce.......

    • @tr7938
      @tr7938 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it is.

  • @javierburgre2__147
    @javierburgre2__147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im sorry were you whistling Wagner?

    • @Best75180
      @Best75180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Curb lmao

  • @rafa0086
    @rafa0086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which is the chord played in 5:35?

    • @pedrofuster9161
      @pedrofuster9161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looks like a c-sharp minor (the sixth degree in E major) with E on the bass(first inversion) and a suspension of a fourth on the melody (the F sharp)

    • @kallehed6330
      @kallehed6330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, it's a deceptive cadence, C# minor to F# 7 to G# minor(where B major was expected)

  • @jeffreymccray2856
    @jeffreymccray2856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for posting this. I like the videos that help you to follow the score, but this performance is much too slow and overly indulgent.

  • @nicholaslopez2185
    @nicholaslopez2185 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    can someone please tell me how i pronounce this phonetically?

    • @nicholaslopez2185
      @nicholaslopez2185 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the piece's name. thanks

    • @philipcai9499
      @philipcai9499 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      seeg-freed i-dill

    • @Tokoloko
      @Tokoloko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wagner did nothing wrong seeg-freed ee-dill

    • @FleuveAlphee
      @FleuveAlphee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually not seeg- but zeeg- ...

    • @Tokoloko
      @Tokoloko 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes, you are right... zeeg....

  • @carl44acq
    @carl44acq ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always wondered if Cosima stayed in bed for the whole thing.

  • @josemanuelmallo
    @josemanuelmallo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wagner in human form

  • @josiahrogers1728
    @josiahrogers1728 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:37 oh my god

  • @shnimmuc
    @shnimmuc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    A wondrous work, perfect. I am ashamed that this man is generally avoided by the Mozart Bach people.

    • @clavichord
      @clavichord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Is Richard Wagner avoided by Mozart Bach people? Or do you mean the conductor Sergiu Celibidache?

    • @andrewrichesson8627
      @andrewrichesson8627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bach and Wagner are my #1 and #2

    • @moltovivace
      @moltovivace 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@andrewrichesson8627Same. St. Matthew Passion and Parsifal are the only works worthy to express God.

  • @theFishy70
    @theFishy70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:35

  • @Danlovar
    @Danlovar ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like "home".

  • @user-dq5ui5nh5y
    @user-dq5ui5nh5y 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    17:24

  • @harryandruschak2843
    @harryandruschak2843 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Another of those musical history "what if". What if Wagner could have written more chamber music like this? (The original performance was with solo strings.) I for one would have been happy if he had written those instead of Parsifal.

    • @raticida123456
      @raticida123456 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Wagner has a very big spirit, chamber music can't handle it enough, this piece is very intimate, chamber music is enough for this piece and was a "special edition " for Cosima.. a lot of parts in the dramas of Wagner have chamber parts, solo parts, etc... he is very dynamic, he goes from the easy thing to the maximum. Parsifal was necessary to do contrast with his other works, you see die meistersinger and it's very popular, you see tristan and it's very romantic, you see the nibelungen and you see fantasy and mythology, now needs the epic medieval theme so you get parsifal.. for me is the best drama

    • @clavichord
      @clavichord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In my opinion, Wagners greatest but not only creativity and influence, lies in his innovation and unique handling of ORCHESTRAL music.... perhaps this is taken for granted by the modern listener, but if you place yourself in Wagners time, many of the sound innovations he made had never been heard before..... so... yes he could have written excellent chamber music, but Wagner's greatness lay elsewhere and he knew it.... There are also those who claim Wagner should have written more symphonic work instead of Opera, but again, his Operas allowed him the discriptive vehicle to become as creative in music as he did.... so the "what ifs" come to a dead end and as a composer Wagner made the right decisions at the right time under the right circumstances.

    • @metacarple
      @metacarple 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Harry Andruschak If you listen to Wagner’s mature worka in detail you will find that long passages are indeed the chamber music for which you yearn. For example, listen to the Siegmund\Sieglinde scene near the beginning of ‘Die Walkure’ -after the storm opening, Wagner uses a clarinet, a viola, a cello and a horn for much of the accompaniment. Passages like this are scattered throughout The Ring, Tristan und Isolde, Die Meistersinger and Parsifal. The big, powerful sections are the ones most often segmented in concert but there is much which is smaller in scale, more chamber-like and more intimate. Dive in and enjoy!

    • @Operafreak9
      @Operafreak9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@raticida123456 Parsifal was abolutely necessary for Wagner to complete what he had been saying throughout his career. It is a profound spiritual drama and Wagner was profoundly spiritual. He had to leave us the complete testament of his life's journey in music. Parsifal first occurred to him aas a drama in 1845. It was in 1882 he completed it and staged it. He knew, when he started he had alot to say before he could top of his lifework with Parsifal.

    • @ValzainLumivix
      @ValzainLumivix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank God he wrote Parsifal instead.

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Wagner had never intended to publish this work, but financial problems forced him to make it public in 1877."
    The man could never hold his money together. He should have gone and take an apprenticeship in accounting and finances with Verdi.

    • @tommot7755
      @tommot7755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He has built his own theatre you moron!

    • @williamstephens9945
      @williamstephens9945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommot7755 He had to rely on his friendship with the king of Bavaria to fund it.

  • @amerrylittlemonarch
    @amerrylittlemonarch ปีที่แล้ว

    5:03

  • @amerrylittlemonarch
    @amerrylittlemonarch ปีที่แล้ว

    7:06

  • @camilohiche4475
    @camilohiche4475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please watch this at the lowest quality only (144p) since it's just for the music, which is much more ecologically responsible than at a higher rate. Watching this at 240p (which is unnecessary for listening purposes), will increase the bandwith by double to almost tenfold! At 1080 the bandwith is augmented by a factor of 100!
    The use of digital technology accounts for 4% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions, as much as the emissions from the world's truck fleet. Of that, a BIG part comes from livestreaming videos, mainly 3 sources : TH-cam, Netflix and porn.
    Let's enjoy this beautiful music by being aware and responsible, doing our little part in decreasing our carbon footprint and protecting this wonderful planet for the generations to come.

    • @Kyle-ur4mr
      @Kyle-ur4mr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Take a bath I’m watching this in 720p

    • @camilohiche4475
      @camilohiche4475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kyle-ur4mr So badass man.

    • @chadkrause6574
      @chadkrause6574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/lITBGjNEp08/w-d-xo.html

    • @kallehed6330
      @kallehed6330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, do you really think us, the youtube watchers, numbered in the billions should be responsible for the emissions of youtube? Shouldn't it be youtube's responsibility to use clean energy?

    • @camilohiche4475
      @camilohiche4475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@kallehed6330 Who is at fault? The prostitute or the client? The drug dealer or the consumer? The guns dealer or the warlord? Well, actually, everyone involved is responsible of their own choices. You are not the one who decides youtube's energy supply strategy, but you CAN choose to watch a video at a lower resolution. There's no such thing as "clean" energy, what you need to understand is that the more the demand of energy is, the higher the stress on the environment will be in order to meet that high demand. Fossil fuels are used because they are extremely energy-intensive (much more so than any other energy source, even nuclear), so they provide enough energy for our high demanding energy needs. It is only by SEVERELY reducing our energy needs that these needs can be able to be met using only carbon-free energy sources.

  • @originaltommy
    @originaltommy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He ain't no Mahler or Strauss but he'll do. Just kidding.
    Odious creature that he was, he wrote well, there is no denying that. Prelude to Tristan und Isolde is the height of Romanticism and utterly ravishing.

  • @robertosolito1276
    @robertosolito1276 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    come può un anarchico scrivere certe cose

  • @park6877
    @park6877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:30 4:10 6:22 9:53 11:43 12:56 14:34

  • @JanCarlComposer
    @JanCarlComposer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wagners style of music has often been copied but it is just impossible to live up to the original ...

    • @tr7938
      @tr7938 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

  • @kallehed6330
    @kallehed6330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't want to be mean, but Wagner, this piece is just... it doesn't go anywhere, it's just the same theme played over and over again, without any clear development. Like, I like everything that you wrote, it's beautiful, the hamony is longing and epic, the melodies are exceptional, but that's just one part of a composition. You have to do something with it you know, you have to have drama, the music should convey a story, it should be more than just beauty. This composition almost feels like a parody of your own music, like, how terrible can I make the music, while still making people like it, just because "oooh beatiful melodyy". Or maybe I'm just tired of hearing this overly romantic harmony, but idk, this music feels kind of shallow, it doesn't feel "real", it feels fake.

    • @j.masonbrown6216
      @j.masonbrown6216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting take... What do you think of Strauss's "Metamorphosen"?

    • @kallehed6330
      @kallehed6330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@j.masonbrown6216 Just listened to it for the first time, I liked it. It's kind of overwhelming, wish there was more silence, still has really great moments. Definitely has an effect on you like a good movie has with it's soundtrack, it definitely feels like a story, something bigger. Interesting Beethoven quote at the end.
      It moves you, though it kind of gives me a headache as well. I think Strauss should work on the balance, needs more soft parts and less forte definitely. Good piece though

    • @amerrylittlemonarch
      @amerrylittlemonarch ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's plenty of development in Wagner; not all music has to tell a story IMO.

  • @xiao-dongwang3651
    @xiao-dongwang3651 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too Slow, drags on forever.

    • @TheOneAndOnlyZeno1889
      @TheOneAndOnlyZeno1889 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Go listen to modern trash then.

    • @TheOneAndOnlyZeno1889
      @TheOneAndOnlyZeno1889 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Asriel Meemurr Just telling the truth, sorry it hurts

    • @TheOneAndOnlyZeno1889
      @TheOneAndOnlyZeno1889 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Asriel Meemurr Art is art, and modern trash should be in the bin where it belongs.

    • @juliusgroot4702
      @juliusgroot4702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TheOneAndOnlyZeno1889 proud of your own short sightedness

    • @TheOneAndOnlyZeno1889
      @TheOneAndOnlyZeno1889 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@juliusgroot4702 Proud that I have standards and recognize Diamonds from a fake glass forgery.

  • @charlieprice3881
    @charlieprice3881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bet Mahler secretly wished he'd written this. The Adagietto from the 5th to me is Mahler's Siegfried Idyll

  • @egee.sheeva6672
    @egee.sheeva6672 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you had run into Liszt and Wagner when they had association and they invited you to join them for a walk or a dinner or a tree-full chat in the shade or by a winter fire hearth, then you would have had all the art genuine injected into you in those minutes that any (and I mean most who desired to be artists and realistically flatly failed to amount to anything with a subject 'muse) living romantic artist wanted-to-be could capture in all your life of struggle and failure...you would have had their forgotten moment. And would have traded all. ALL, for that moment.

  • @amerrylittlemonarch
    @amerrylittlemonarch ปีที่แล้ว

    20:50

  • @amerrylittlemonarch
    @amerrylittlemonarch ปีที่แล้ว

    17:27

  • @isaacmurilez6762
    @isaacmurilez6762 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:28
    14:10

  • @shaneheiden5448
    @shaneheiden5448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Larry David brought me here

  • @NobuhikuObayashi
    @NobuhikuObayashi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    18:37