At the end, comparing the sharpness of the 85mm to the 45mm is apples and oranges. dunno why you did that. Of course, the Samyang 45 is now going for $300 on BH.
Ive tested both of these and here is my honest opinion if someone is struggling to decide. Both are good, sony is cheaper by almost double and that means that samyang should be better by double BUT it's not. In my eyes it was better by like 20%. Noise was the "worst" problem for me, but thats just something you get used to over time and if you work in open envirovment you hear other stuff as well anyways. Autofocus difference is minimal, but it's better for Samyang, is it better 150$ ? Nope, it's better maybe 50$. If someone is buying, i would rather say to go with 50mm Sony, just because you can use extra 150$ to buy maybe lights or invest into something else.
The Sony had been notoriously mediocre. I just got the Rokinon 75mm and I love it. That's what made me look into this one. Looks like this will be my next purchase.
@@OmaGhomrawi I'm in love with that lens. I just wrote an amazon review. I really hadn't even seeing any reviews on it. Minor complaint is it's slightly slow to focus but not a deal breaker at all. Sharpness, colors, light weight lens etc. It was a very good purchase.
1st time i bought 55 1.8 plannar.. but it has same look as my batis 85.. Now i bought 45 samy And great small lens! Only my 3rd lens are huge Sigma 20 1.4 but has unique "medium format" look in wide picture at 1.4 in FF. So my combo for peoples 20-45-85 with R4.
Comparing 45 1.8 vs 50 1.8, then what is talking about sharpness of fe 85 1.8 at the end. I think you should compare sy 75 1.8 vs fe 85 1.8 instead (I'm sure Samyang does better again). Sorry for your sony lense.
Very useful video, I am struggling between these two lens. Can I know how you can upgrade Samyang's firmware, did you spend another 60 dollars to buy a base to upgrade the firmware? I have seen some reviews of the old firmware cannot be focused at infinity, and sometimes the focus is not accurate at close range.
I did not upgrade or bought the firmware device, however it’s the only way to upgrade the firmware. You may check a Samyang dealer near by, I’m sure they will do it for you.
Great model, Oma! Just checking - was the Sony 50 f1.8 updated to Ver.3 for your testing? Did you have the lens on an A7iii or later model? Apparently the 50f1.8 is a different, much improved lens on the latest cameras and fully updated. Apparently still noisy though! I am just waiting for my copy to be delivered so I can test it out for myself on my A7c.
I believe at the time of this review, the firmware was not 3.0. However, I recently got another Sony 50mm, updated the firmware to 3.0, and compared it with Viltrox 50mm f.18. th-cam.com/video/QK_HUXWwNj8/w-d-xo.html I noticed the lens has better autofocus performance with new firmware, however, it is still noisy and slow compared to other lenses.
@@OmaGhomrawi Thanks Oma. When my copy of the Sony comes ( bought used for a good price) I will make sure that it is fully updated before I "judge"it. I own the Zeiss 55 and am curious to see how the 50 will perform in comparison. I always enjoy watching your videos!
This is my current dilemma 🤕 is the 50mm f1.8 with the latest firmware Oma? Either I sell off my 16-35f4 Zeiss and pick up the Samyang 18mm f2.8 + 45mm f1.8 combo or stick with 16-35mm f4 and add on the Sony 50f1.8
Hey Amirul, My 50mm firmware’s is v03, which is the latest version. It got quite improved with this version. I don’t really recommend Sony 50 for much video work. Ive been using it for a while. In still for example, one photo of 10 is slightly out of focus. Zeiss 16-35 is versatile from 16 to 24 to 35. You need a prime lens for better quality, I enjoyed the 45 since small, smooth and fast autofocus but it’s quite expensive. But had Zeiss 55mm f1.8 for a while, and definitely I prefer Samyang 45 ove Zeiss 55
Amirul Noorazmi however Tamron 17-28mm f2.8 costs $900 I got one couple days ago and gonna make a video in 3 weeks. Maybe you sell zeiss to get tamron and samyang 45
I don't do much video yet, but maybe in the future I'll think about it. The 55mm Zeiss is amazing but not within budget. And the Tamron is nice too, but sadly the Samyang 18mm f2.8 and 45mm f1.8 is just within budget. Thanks for the advice Oma! 😁🙏🏻
You might be interested in watching these ones: Sony 35mm f1.8 vs Samyang 45mm f1.8 th-cam.com/video/5jodvgdgFT0/w-d-xo.html Sony 85mm f1.8 vs 50mm f1.8 + Free Lightroom Preset th-cam.com/video/5ndZ7p_LZio/w-d-xo.html
I have both, Samyang is much better, less haze than Sony wide open. Also autofocus is much quicker. The price is almost the same, now that Samyang/Rokinon can be had for 250. So you are wrong..
Thank you Tim, for highlighting this. I removed the giveaway link after it ended from all videos. Unfortunately, I forgot to keep it here. Please find the presets I mentioned here: www.omarghomrawi.com/presetgiveaway Download more presets: th-cam.com/video/jHhLZ1ub5VA/w-d-xo.html (in the description)
The fe 50 1.8 is rated for 20 fps with A9. Not all Sony lenses can do that, so not sure why you say slow AF, unless you mean video but you should specify, more incorrect info on the 50 is not needed.
kinachahue the 50mm autofocus is Okk but remarkably slower than samyang 45mm in videos and slightly slower in stills That’s from my real world testing :)
kinachahue The (Sel50f18) Fe 50mm f1.8 has a very Slow Af. I Know none Sony FE Lens that has a slower Af than the FE 50 1.8. The FE 50mm f1.8 couldn‘t do even 5 fps.
I did not test them side by side. I had the 55mm in the past, and this glass is sharp but overpriced in my opinion. I see the 45mm from samyang comes in between 50 and 55mm.
The Sony 50mm 1.8 AF is actually good with the A9, in fact, it can even do 20fps, so your comment is completely wrong. Did you actually update the firmware? With old firmware it was bad. You are misleading your viewers with false information. Thumbs down.
Is it an issue that there is no gap between the lens element and the mount on the Samyang? I read one reviewer saying: "The bayonet mount also felt overly tight and required more force than other lenses to mount, feeling a little "scratchy"."
Hey Dexer, Sony 50mm has a large gap because it was rebuilt from dslr lens same as sigma art lenses for sony. However I didn't experiment tight mounting with Samyang.
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What about zesis 55 1.8?
Senthil Raja C I believe zeiss 55mm doesn’t worth the money
It’s absolutely good but not mind blowing performance
Thank you! This helped me decide between these two lenses: Rokinon for its faster and quieter autofocus.
Had both lenses and can confirm every word you say. Great comparison.
Do you still own any of them ?
Im posting a new video in 2 days Sony 50mm f1.8 vs Sony 85mm f1.8
@@OmaGhomrawi As a video guy, I kept the Samyang. Also I love the 45mm field of view.
@@shesyarik I still have both lenses and also thinking to keep the 45
As usual great content!
Love these review /comparison video's.
Glad you watched it
I actually decided to make comparison videos like this.. expect more in the coming weeks
@@OmaGhomrawi looking forward to It Oma.
Great review ! Thanks
The intro video was very well done. Excellent. New to your channel. Thanks.
:D
At the end, comparing the sharpness of the 85mm to the 45mm is apples and oranges. dunno why you did that.
Of course, the Samyang 45 is now going for $300 on BH.
I did that because I consider the 85 f1.8 a decent sharp lens wide open. It’s kind of a sharpness scale to me :)
Thank you for watching!
Agree. Makes no sense comparing to the 85mm. Also the Samyang 45/1.8 is now cheaper than the Sony 50/1.8. Samyang wins hands down.
Ive tested both of these and here is my honest opinion if someone is struggling to decide.
Both are good, sony is cheaper by almost double and that means that samyang should be better by double BUT it's not. In my eyes it was better by like 20%.
Noise was the "worst" problem for me, but thats just something you get used to over time and if you work in open envirovment you hear other stuff as well anyways.
Autofocus difference is minimal, but it's better for Samyang, is it better 150$ ? Nope, it's better maybe 50$.
If someone is buying, i would rather say to go with 50mm Sony, just because you can use extra 150$ to buy maybe lights or invest into something else.
just like 3 times price of 85 1.4gm over samyang 85 1.4 should be 3 times better?
Bad advise. The cost of improvement is not linear as with all things.
The Sony had been notoriously mediocre. I just got the Rokinon 75mm and I love it. That's what made me look into this one. Looks like this will be my next purchase.
How is the 75mm lens? I would love to hear your experience
@@OmaGhomrawi I'm in love with that lens. I just wrote an amazon review. I really hadn't even seeing any reviews on it. Minor complaint is it's slightly slow to focus but not a deal breaker at all. Sharpness, colors, light weight lens etc. It was a very good purchase.
1st time i bought 55 1.8 plannar.. but it has same look as my batis 85.. Now i bought 45 samy And great small lens! Only my 3rd lens are huge Sigma 20 1.4 but has unique "medium format" look in wide picture at 1.4 in FF. So my combo for peoples 20-45-85 with R4.
Oh now I'm excited to test the 20mm f1.4 lens. My brother has the 24 f1.4 from Sony and this one is really nice
I like a lot the samyang I own it. By the way, are you considering reviewing the Planar 50 mm 1.4? Thanks.
Hi, Im not planning to review the Planar 50mm f1.4 very soon. Will put it on my list 👍🏻
Thank you for highlighting this Gustavo
Comparing 45 1.8 vs 50 1.8, then what is talking about sharpness of fe 85 1.8 at the end. I think you should compare sy 75 1.8 vs fe 85 1.8 instead (I'm sure Samyang does better again). Sorry for your sony lense.
Very useful video, I am struggling between these two lens. Can I know how you can upgrade Samyang's firmware, did you spend another 60 dollars to buy a base to upgrade the firmware? I have seen some reviews of the old firmware cannot be focused at infinity, and sometimes the focus is not accurate at close range.
I did not upgrade or bought the firmware device, however it’s the only way to upgrade the firmware. You may check a Samyang dealer near by, I’m sure they will do it for you.
hate every lens which have sound during auto focus
Great model, Oma! Just checking - was the Sony 50 f1.8 updated to Ver.3 for your testing? Did you have the lens on an A7iii or later model? Apparently the 50f1.8 is a different, much improved lens on the latest cameras and fully updated. Apparently still noisy though! I am just waiting for my copy to be delivered so I can test it out for myself on my A7c.
I believe at the time of this review, the firmware was not 3.0.
However, I recently got another Sony 50mm, updated the firmware to 3.0, and compared it with Viltrox 50mm f.18.
th-cam.com/video/QK_HUXWwNj8/w-d-xo.html
I noticed the lens has better autofocus performance with new firmware, however, it is still noisy and slow compared to other lenses.
@@OmaGhomrawi Thanks Oma. When my copy of the Sony comes ( bought used for a good price) I will make sure that it is fully updated before I "judge"it. I own the Zeiss 55 and am curious to see how the 50 will perform in comparison. I always enjoy watching your videos!
@@chryseass.5143 I appreciate your support and please let me know if you have feedback or suggestion.
Thx for comparsion!
Thank you for watching mate!
This is my current dilemma 🤕 is the 50mm f1.8 with the latest firmware Oma? Either I sell off my 16-35f4 Zeiss and pick up the Samyang 18mm f2.8 + 45mm f1.8 combo or stick with 16-35mm f4 and add on the Sony 50f1.8
Hey Amirul, My 50mm firmware’s is v03, which is the latest version. It got quite improved with this version.
I don’t really recommend Sony 50 for much video work.
Ive been using it for a while. In still for example, one photo of 10 is slightly out of focus.
Zeiss 16-35 is versatile from 16 to 24 to 35.
You need a prime lens for better quality, I enjoyed the 45 since small, smooth and fast autofocus but it’s quite expensive.
But had Zeiss 55mm f1.8 for a while, and definitely I prefer Samyang 45 ove Zeiss 55
Amirul Noorazmi however Tamron 17-28mm f2.8 costs $900 I got one couple days ago and gonna make a video in 3 weeks.
Maybe you sell zeiss to get tamron and samyang 45
I don't do much video yet, but maybe in the future I'll think about it. The 55mm Zeiss is amazing but not within budget. And the Tamron is nice too, but sadly the Samyang 18mm f2.8 and 45mm f1.8 is just within budget. Thanks for the advice Oma! 😁🙏🏻
Amirul Noorazmi if you’re tight with the budget get the 50mm f1.8 though. It’s not bad if you’re doing stills
@@OmaGhomrawi Samyang 45mm 1.8 vs Sony new 35mm 1.8 which would your choice and suggestion?
Samyang is a better lens, compared to Zeiss 55mm f1.8(more expensive) I think it is less so.
The intro video was very good
Wow. I like it Samyang lens.
You might be interested in watching these ones:
Sony 35mm f1.8 vs Samyang 45mm f1.8 th-cam.com/video/5jodvgdgFT0/w-d-xo.html
Sony 85mm f1.8 vs 50mm f1.8 + Free Lightroom Preset th-cam.com/video/5ndZ7p_LZio/w-d-xo.html
its 50mm or 85mm??
Can i use this lenses with Zv10 please confirm to proceed
You can.
However these lenses are made for full frame.
You might find the 50mm f1.8 OSS at a cheaper price for crop sensor
nice video
what picture profile you use ?
Here was using Cine 4
However I am currently using HLG2 th-cam.com/video/GR81Wn6ahQ8/w-d-xo.html
I have both, Samyang is much better, less haze than Sony wide open. Also autofocus is much quicker. The price is almost the same, now that Samyang/Rokinon can be had for 250. So you are wrong..
Marius Hainal Hey! Samyang was selling for $400 when I made the video. Eventually the price dropped down after 3 months
Where are those free presets you mentioned?
Thank you Tim, for highlighting this.
I removed the giveaway link after it ended from all videos. Unfortunately, I forgot to keep it here.
Please find the presets I mentioned here: www.omarghomrawi.com/presetgiveaway
Download more presets: th-cam.com/video/jHhLZ1ub5VA/w-d-xo.html (in the description)
@@OmaGhomrawi thanks! I just ordered this lens, hopefully I get some good use from it.
@@feeltheeffect85 Which lens you ordered Tim? the 50 or Samyang 45
@@OmaGhomrawi Samyang 45
How is it compared to Sigma 56mm on APSC?
Sigma 56mm is for APSC sensor, while these two lenses are for full frame
@@YD-pl5rn Indeed I expect that, I own sigma 16mm DC DN and, built great
Whenever you make a video I’m going to do a comment
The fe 50 1.8 is rated for 20 fps with A9. Not all Sony lenses can do that, so not sure why you say slow AF, unless you mean video but you should specify, more incorrect info on the 50 is not needed.
kinachahue the 50mm autofocus is Okk but remarkably slower than samyang 45mm in videos and slightly slower in stills
That’s from my real world testing :)
kinachahue The (Sel50f18) Fe 50mm f1.8 has a very Slow Af. I Know none Sony FE Lens that has a slower Af than the FE 50 1.8. The FE 50mm f1.8 couldn‘t do even 5 fps.
Super lenses (snap)
Background music ia annoyngly sweet.
The samyang / ronkinon is $300 on b&h
ow was around $400 when I bought it three months ago
Can’t find it for 300 now
How about sony 55mm vs samyang 45mm?
I did not test them side by side. I had the 55mm in the past, and this glass is sharp but overpriced in my opinion.
I see the 45mm from samyang comes in between 50 and 55mm.
The sony lens is one of the worst lenses I have ever used !
The Sony 50mm 1.8 AF is actually good with the A9, in fact, it can even do 20fps, so your comment is completely wrong. Did you actually update the firmware? With old firmware it was bad. You are misleading your viewers with false information.
Thumbs down.
Thank you reaching out. I made my tests on a7 3, with latest firmware update on both the lens and camera. I shared what I saw.
The price difference is $350 vs $200.
Thank you Frank for highlighting this. It was $400 at the time of publishing the video :)
@@OmaGhomrawi Thank you for the video. Thankfully, the Samyang 45mm 1.8 was on sale new at Adorama for $299. A no brainer at that price.
[penguin747] nice I love your videos ❤️❤️🐧
Hope you find this video helpful and learned some new information
Is it an issue that there is no gap between the lens element and the mount on the Samyang? I read one reviewer saying: "The bayonet mount also felt overly tight and required more force than other lenses to mount, feeling a little "scratchy"."
Hey Dexer, Sony 50mm has a large gap because it was rebuilt from dslr lens same as sigma art lenses for sony. However I didn't experiment tight mounting with Samyang.