Xing Yi Stepping: Conception and Imagery

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  • @wkghrs
    @wkghrs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I feel like we're taking a college class in Xing Yi, this is great

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, in teaching, we should make things organized.

    • @riseoftheairnation
      @riseoftheairnation 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, comprehensive and comprehensible. It would be an amazing course to take.

    • @timdarmetko4039
      @timdarmetko4039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HaiYangChannel you do it very well. thank you for your time ...you are very appreciated . I hope to meet you one day

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hi. I practice Xingyiquan Beijing and shanxi style, and yang taichi. My time of practice is 5.5 years. I am very grateful for your videos. I comment in order to give you ideas for future videos.
    -strategic and tactical principles of Xingyiquan, taichi and bagua. How do they fight? What they have in common? Differences?
    -relations between five fist, 12 animals and 8 words. Origins, history, application, why and when using one or other. Influences of xinyi animals on Xingyiquan
    -all of the above, but applied to weapons.
    -specific methods of training from each style and why those methods are used, what attribute are they trying to develop. Difference between conditioning and training.
    -specific Xingyiquan chikung, and differences with bagua and taichi chikung
    - uses of different types of forces in internal style: contraction and expansion, spiral force, relaxation and tension, sinking, etc. Use of gravity and inertia, centripetal and centrifugal force. Wich styles uses more what.
    - differences in fajin between Xingyiquan, taichi and bagua.
    -fajin in weapons
    -duilian forms
    -breathing. Combat breathing vs training applications vs chikung. Reverse breathing. When to use it.
    Hope this gives you ideas. Many thanks again.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you for these questions, I will make a plan for it.

  • @botanicalbiohacking6065
    @botanicalbiohacking6065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So much to complain about in 2020, but the direct quality information of this channel is such a treasure.

  • @mesfromusa
    @mesfromusa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I have just started to practice xingyiquan (at age 73!), I can recognize the value in your teaching, even though I have little practical experience with the form. I have saved this video with my other learning materials. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and expertise.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are very welcome. 73 is still a very young age to practice! I hope you will enjoy it more and more.

  • @hongdewuguan
    @hongdewuguan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir, you are giving out valuable information. Thank you. I appreciate your opinion and presentation of your thoughts on the way Chinese culture is so tightly woven into the practice of Chinese martial arts.

  • @rodgerbane3825
    @rodgerbane3825 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah, a video on the 5 elemental fist stationary strikes for power generation would be great if you feel it is appropriate and if it hasn't been done as of yet.

  • @pilot.wav_theory
    @pilot.wav_theory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for generously passing on your knowledge to the public, it would be a shame if no one could see this beautiful martial art. I was wondering, speaking as more of what you might call a modern style kickboxer type myself, which of the five element fists would you say is most appropriate to apply to heavy bag training?

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think people can apply these five forces from five elements fists and using heavy bag training to practice these five forces. I never used heavy bags but I used small trees to practice five element forces before. Thanks.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also I have a video about five forces in my channel. Please check it out if you want. Thanks.

  • @shantinath1000
    @shantinath1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank for posting these videos, I had practiced baji and xing yi for many years but due to circumstances I have not had a chance to practice for several years. Your videos motivate me to try and move back towards practice. Additionally, they reflect a deep understanding that you are able to convey. thank you for your sharing your experience and knowledge.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonderful! I am very happy to see that you will practice again:) Thanks.

  • @33samogo
    @33samogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "We are practicing martial arts, NOT performance arts!" 12:38
    This definition can be easily applied on today art market, where performance "precision imitation" art is overfloding the "precision principle" art. In my understanding, the Crafts was always a product of precision imitation, on the other hand, Arts is based on precision principle. I was not 100% sure about this pure formulation, although it was clear to me that art without precision principle can not exist. But now, thanks to your interpretation of art, I can understand that Crafts can also include principle precision, which is logical, yin-yang principle is everywhere. The absurd of today's art is that it is mostly precision imitation oriented and deeply out of balance.
    I would like to hear more about "art" Chinese concepts from you, especially those that cultivate precision principle. Thank you for this revelation Master, your sharing knowledge is priceless!

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you talk about the importance of principles... Thanks.

  • @DaiAndrews
    @DaiAndrews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this detailed video on the true power contained in Xingyi stepping.
    I would enjoy more detailed commentary on the Xingyi classics in future videos.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that will depend on the depth of the discussion. It is very hard to explain it in a deep level in a video format, or it will take a lot of long videos to explain a document.

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HaiYangChannel what about making separated videos of yue fei thesis? The structure you normally use could be a great one: a) the thesis in Chinese b) the thesis in English c) meaning (cultural and martial) d) demonstration e) takeaway points. This thesis are hard to understand to us westerners and you can give cultural and martial context. Thank you very much for your work. I know you do this work out of wude and daoist principles, but let me respectfully suggest you setting a patreon account. Thank you for your work.

  • @ukguy
    @ukguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for another informative and interesting video.

  • @Keitenrenbu
    @Keitenrenbu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm looking into learning Xingyi, I have a background in Liuhe Quan, an Liu Bagua a Bagua Linear form created by Liu Dekuan which uses Xingyi stepping. I'm aware that Xingyi in some circles is called Xingyi Liuhe. Your Videos are helping bridge the gaps, thank you!

  • @ToOvOxo
    @ToOvOxo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear teacher, thank you so much for your generous teachings. There are no words to describe their value and motivational impact.
    I remember when we met in Guelph - Ontario. The brief moments of training with you were as goog as gold.
    Today, watching your explanations I must remind my self: " How fortunate I was having met you, even for a briefly moment of life."
    I have gained knowledge of an energy that you so generously shared... and that feeling changes everything.
    I was invited by James (Guelph) and my name is Tony, I was a student of the former teacher Pan Qinfu at the time.
    I wish you all the best, and congratulate you in finding a beautiful way of promoting the true way of martial arts.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Mr. Rosa, wow, we met at Guelph, that must be years ago:) A very nice place to visit, indeed. Glad to know that you enjoy these videos! If I remember well, you worked as a sales representative for wolfberry juice...or I might be wrong here since it has been many years. Thank you for your comments and good luck too.

  • @CrossingFist
    @CrossingFist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for these wonderful videos. I’ve been practicing Chen Tai Chi, Pakua, and Hsing-I since the early 2000’s, and these videos are deepening my own practice.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wonderful! You are very welcome and thank you too.

    • @CrossingFist
      @CrossingFist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hai Yang You’re welcome.

  • @Toadstool69
    @Toadstool69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic as always. Thank you, Master Yang!

  • @pgskills
    @pgskills 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This lecture touches on so many deep aspects of proper practice and I find many connections to my own Bagua training while also furthering my understanding of how Xing Yi and Bagua are distinct from one another. I would much appreciate your thoughts on the linear stepping practices of Bagua and how they feel different from Xing Yi to you. There seems to be a very subtle difference between the starting step you demonstrate here and the linear jump step which I learned in my original system, mostly with regards to whether the power is issued when the lead foot lands or instead when the back foot catches up. I realize this is not the main step being practiced in this demonstration but I was wondering if you could perhaps give more detail on that step and perhaps contrast it with the linear stepping you do in your Ba Gua practice.
    Thanks once again, Sifu, for sharing so much knowledge so generously and with such passion and clarity. I hope you are well.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello,
      I think I will make a video to talk about this topic in the future. Thank you for the suggestion.

    • @pgskills
      @pgskills 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HaiYangChannel Thank you. Looking forward to your next video, as always.

  • @blazink50
    @blazink50 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow thank you the forward downward intention in the feet is making a major difference in my standing chi gung practice even tough it is for stepping thanks mr Yang

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very welcome. and thank you too.

  • @Elixirmusiques
    @Elixirmusiques 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for this indepth lesson.
    This new series is quite an inspiration.
    Thanks again

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very welcome and thank you too.

  • @ZalMoxis
    @ZalMoxis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoying your series on internal arts.....thanks

  • @Juan0003
    @Juan0003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! What a great review of what you taught us in class! Although I understood the principles back then, the applications are still not well ingrained. Thank you also for the cultural background to these topics. Without them, you have people trying to imitate chickens, eagles and bears uselessly. I wonder how they managed to imitate the dragon?

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha. Great question. Well, I’m Chinese we have a proverb: if you cannot imagine a dragon then you may act as a snake:)

  • @mattbugg4568
    @mattbugg4568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The image in tai chi is the grand push hands brocade, three steps forward turn 45 3 steps backwards. Around the 8 trigrams each with an application to the section of the early or later heaven trigram which they are on like they are left or right. In pakua you learn a smaller 8 step around a circle simple, and pi pu steps inside the cricle and outside facing, and fish step for each through the middle of the circle creating the yin yang. In hsing i you learn the old style linking fist which is two steps forward turn to rear turn forward step through two steps forward turn rear turn forward turn rear reverse to start. All these movements from 3 different arts are the same principle. You do the brocade tai chi style, at any of the points you can apply a pakua circle or two attached the yin yang through the bigger circle and at any point you can cut through the brocade with linking fist or any one of the animals and draw the yin yang parts of the pa kua circle. Thats the entire footwork for the nei jia system. Each movement of the arms and hands follows the tai chi pattern. Like wave hand like clouds in tai chi is the two small circles. The four core hands of hsing i are the tai chi diagram on both sides. The movements of tiger mouth, hide flowers under the moon, tigers mouth opposite side and opposite hide flowers under moon are the tai chi diagram of pakua. If you loom at the two circles, arhat boxing is the same movements and are common across the board in most martial arts styles. While I see you are extremely knowledgeable in your work with hsing i current. The older forms with active step instead of jump step will look exactly how I have described. The three arts are all different parts of the same system. While each part has lap overs into the others. Like fish step in pa kua is the same as reverse direction twice in hsing i. And the small circle following the 8 steps is a mirror of the large circle with 3 steps. You could expand it further or contract it further by each odd step and have a entry to the inner diagrams on each step. Its like a mandala at this point but the original was Taoist and was a picture of the universe inside the lo scroll. The lo scroll is the picture of the universe which was very well observed in the past and looks like a giant yin yang in the sky modern-day cities and lights have made it almost unviewable except in remote regions. And the markings of the lo scroll followed the positioning of the 8 trigrams revised into early heaven sequence and late heaven sequence which when one is put inside the other each time the inner one moves by one it creates a new hexagram, 8x8 is 64, and reverse the outside one with the inside one and you get 64 more or 128 all together. These systems were studied and lut together as a system of design of the universe. Which was made into the arts of tai chi hsing i and pakua, it was the original universal motion art. I truly see great things in your lecture about the state of martial arts and principles of arts and styles involved.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      After reading your comments. I am not sure I have fully understand it. I have to read a couple of times again. Thanks.

  • @PhuongNguyen-js7gb
    @PhuongNguyen-js7gb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Master! It is very helpful !

  • @riseoftheairnation
    @riseoftheairnation 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Master Yang. This video is very insightful.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are very welcome and thank you for your comment.

  • @GodinFrederic
    @GodinFrederic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Master Yang, a very interesting video once again!!
    It could be interesting to also hear about Xiang Xing Xue footwork!
    Also, the second principle mentioned in the video (stepping through the middle gate) had me think a little. I was trying to reconcile that and the fact (maybe I got something wrong or misunderstood something) that some applications seem to involve taking an angle over the opponent (e.g. stepping 45 degrees and avoid the strike instead of stepping directly in a straight line towards him). I guess both principles could make consistent by doing a zig zag step (first step to avoid, second step then directly into the opponent to break his structure), but I wasn't sure if this interpretation made sense, of if Xing Yi principles rather advocate direct (straight line) engagement of the opponent.
    I feel I would have many other related questions related to this, for instance preferences to engage on this inside or outside side of the attacking arm, etc. (perhaps I'll ask you in person eventually when I see you). Maybe I'm getting over-excited. :p

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. I think I will talk about these points in more details in the future. Great suggestion. Thanks.

  • @Purwapada
    @Purwapada 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    .
    can you please do a video talking about chinese painting

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, I will do it in the fall season. when the cool weather comes, people will have more energy to appreciate this kind of topic. thanks,

    • @anettehalbestund4184
      @anettehalbestund4184 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah -would be nice. .. (I paint.. too in Winter..lol ). Im studing ästhetic here in germany- we had some chinese Professors as guest who talk. ..u would be a nice "Dozent" in my University. ..we combine practical and theory of Art... . At the Moment we Research what(was)/ how (wie) is time (zeit).... great thanks for u...& to "meet " all the thoughts of the People here. ..

  • @kyoxion
    @kyoxion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you master, for sharing this precious knowledge. I practice Xingyi on my own. I possess a copy of 渐去的武林 and 高术莫用 which introduced me many of the old practices and also Xue Dian's Xiang Xing Shu. I'm very interested in the seven star steps described in his practice and the stretching of wide movements. And particularly his emphasize on Long Xiang (Dragon image) which develop the body movements and power all together. Could you please share your views on how the unique movements of Xiang Xing Shu helps on develop power in Xingyi practice?

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a video introducing Xue Dian and his practice in my channel. This is the link th-cam.com/video/SGR6z5-6vNE/w-d-xo.html
      Pleaes have a look and it may provide more info. Thanks

  • @botanicalbiohacking6065
    @botanicalbiohacking6065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: What is the essential movement in weapon form of taiji (guandao) xing yi (spear) and bagua (saber). The highest frequency 80/20 original movement that the system come out of?

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A great question. I think I will make a video about it.

  • @elzer91
    @elzer91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am not a practitioner of Internal Style (yet), but I've been watching your videos and my interest just keeps deepening. Would 28 years old be too late to start? And if I'm primarily interested in "self defense" with health (mind/physical) benefits as a bonus? Should I start with Xingyi or Bagua?

    • @goldenturtle111
      @goldenturtle111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cinque It’s never too late. Even if you were 80!

    • @TheBjjones
      @TheBjjones 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goldenturtle111
      Spot on!

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      28 years old is very young.

  • @quanjiahao87
    @quanjiahao87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was wondering where the picture around 9:15 is from? It’s really cool!

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know an artiest in China and she put her works online.

  • @yudisthiralistya745
    @yudisthiralistya745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wooh this is deep philosophical knowledge! (and I thought Xing Yi Quan was simple. I was dead wrong).

  • @TheGrmany69
    @TheGrmany69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting to know that Yi Jing still retains the original meaning of Aesthetics, which comes from the Greek "aesthesis": perception, or (ratio)nal measurement through perception.

  • @LaoZi2023
    @LaoZi2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see a video on Mao Zhai Lao Jia, the relationship with Wu style as well as Yang style- maybe the differences in practice. Also, could you discuss Wang Mao Zhai’s contribution to Tai Ji Chukan? Thank you.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, I am not that familiar to Wu Style even though Wang was one of the best Wu style master back to his time. I can ask for some help from some friends of mine if you have any specific questions about him.

  • @SimoCava91
    @SimoCava91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you master. I have a question...do you have any stepping exercise that you would recommend to practice and cultivate those 4 principles? The Xingyi five elements could already be enough to start? 🙏🏼 have a nice day

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, I will answer it for you in the next Q&A.

  • @tracystephens9104
    @tracystephens9104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Master Yang,
    Would you be so kind as to explain the difference, if any, between Pa Kua Chang and Ba Gua Zhang. I have searched for videos and texts mediums and found nothing. Your help is appreciated.
    Mr. Stephens
    Navarre, Florida.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I will definitely talk about it. Thanks

  • @spectralmelodies5979
    @spectralmelodies5979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love it if you could talk about silk reeling energy plz.

  • @dipayandey5372
    @dipayandey5372 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is Dai Family style and xinyi quan? I saw two videos of Master Chen Jinfu and Master xiaofeng. Are Piguaquan and Tongbeiquan same as xinyi quan?

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dai FAmily style is a variation of Xinyi. Pigua is different Tongbei and not as Xinyi at all.

  • @ambulocetusnatans
    @ambulocetusnatans 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is very good knowledge. Maybe you should write a book?

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure. I have to improve my English first...Thanks.

    • @ambulocetusnatans
      @ambulocetusnatans 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HaiYangChannel Your English is good.

  • @MorrisDaniels
    @MorrisDaniels 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much sir 💪🏼🙏🏻

  • @eatingbitter1756
    @eatingbitter1756 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you very much!!!!!

  • @AseykinNews
    @AseykinNews ปีที่แล้ว

    the video promised xyng yi stepping. I never found it in the vodeo

  • @maduroholdings
    @maduroholdings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the stepping in hsing I. In fact my father forbade me from practicing in the house. Because the house would shake.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Stepping makes the house shake:)

  • @maduroholdings
    @maduroholdings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why did I feel like I was being scolded. 😞It’s true though principles of technique comes first application must not suffer for the sake of imitating imagery.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to know we agree to each other.