Double Dices has a 10% chance of granting 10 coins. So on average: - Mushroom: +5 _(average: 5.5 → 10.5)_ for 3 coins, or 1 coin at One-Coin Shop. - Double Dices: +1 to +10, 10% of gaining 10 coins _(average: 5.5 →11, +1 coin)_ for 5 coins (or 4 coins in average, factoring the coin gains). I would argue that Double Dices enable "hope" to an unlikely outcome, like snatching something at 16-20 tiles away, or getting bonus coins when you lack them. So in short, Double Dices is marginally better, but Mushroom has the best quality-price ratio by far between the two.
It's an item that has an extremely small niche and is only bought as much as it is because it has some shops in the game where it's the only movement item available. Double Dice are much more likely to be the "cheap staple" as they have a higher average roll and a higher peak. If you're buying a mushroom because you're scared of a 7% chance to roll worse than a 6, then you're giving yourself a handicap. It's still a good item of course, movement is movement, it just is obsoleted by so many other items that it deserves to take a hit for it.
You either get the Super Mushroom for consistency or Triple for distance. Double is when you have to not spend a lot of money, and golden double should always be over double.
No. It's a sidegrade. Early game movement is not nearly as important as generating income for both coins and bonus stars. Even if it's slightly weaker on average you can still get the mushroom for both cost efficiency and the absolute guarantee of skipping 5 spaces (eg: bowsers, unwanted events, goomba low tide, western tracks etc.). There's VERY RARELY a situation in the first few turns where you NEED that small chance of a 15+ roll, and then by the time movement becomes relevant you'll be getting Triples in its place anyways. tldr if you want consistency you get shrooms if you want movement you get triples
I actually feel like this isn't a hot take at all. I greatly dislike this item, for it undermines the players having to come up with creative strategies to win. Instead everybody tries to buy and use it as often as one can. Plus even though any player can buy it, I feel like most of the time the player being in the lead is profiting from it the most, so already existing gaps are more likely to be increased, rather than closed. The golden pipe should be either: - more expensive - only be purchasable/ usable by the player that is currently placed 4th (or maybe players 4th and 3rd) - receive a change on how it places its' user: instead of placing it directly in front of the current star, it places the player in a random proximity to it, starting from 1 (best case, star guaranteed) to 10 (worst case). - a combination of at least two things mentioned above - dropped from the game entirely I wish Jamboree had the same feature as Mario Kart 8, where you can manually choose the items that will show up during gameplay.
Sorry, but the tower turner is a D Tier item. In theory it should be in A, but not only can you not time the spin, but as you pointed out, there's simply several much better items to buy at the shop
May have been overrating it in hindsight, but having that much control over the board's main gimmick is game-changing. The main alternatives you'd buy (mainly the swap mirror) are luck and positioning based too, so it really just depends on what you value more at that moment. I think when this was recorded I didn't realize just how good the steemer tickets were though, thinking of the movement as luck-based similar to the tower turner and not thinking about the part where you can send anyone on the tracks between you back to start. That's probably the only major thing I don't agree with on this list anymore.
Hot take.the creepy dice block doesn’t need a nerf. It works well enough. I’ve seen people complain it’s underpowered, but it only costs 3 coins, and can be useful at times, especially when trying to stall. It also makes sense items that cost twice as much as it negate the role. The mushroom should probably just add 5 to the 1-3 role though.
I think creepy dices should't be able to be cancelled, but combined. If you use a custom after someone used a creepy dice on you, you can choose beteween 1-3 If you use dobles, you can roll 1-3 twice And so on
Shop Hop is insane on the right level, you can just chain them together until you get the result you want, or to avoid a dangerous area cracked on the Bowser Vault level
Haha honestly. Especially if you can get to Koopa’s instead of the magikoopa shops in the latter half. Get a golden pipe and then you can pull up to the magikoopa shop and buy another shop hop
The tower turner is ass, while yes you can change from toad to bowzer and vice-versa, it's random if this happens or not. So there's a great chance you waste 20 coins on this for absolutely nothing
Markup Sticker has some utility as a counter to Jamboree Buddy-double (to quadruple+) stars, as discussed, and it probably deserves at least D tier for that alone. Also, I saw a CPU buy the Super Dueling Glove for 80 coins because of that sticker once... couldn't afford Boo afterwards, and then it lost the duel later too. Worst play I've seen so far in this game 😅
One thing I'd do is buff it to impact Boo steals as well. It'd make it much harder to use Boo on this board and would give people more reason to consider buying this item. Though again, it has some niche utility as is (still not a great item, sadly, especially with the inflated economy in this game)
tbh the creepy dice, does kinda have alot of value for 3 coins, it pushes the enemy, to either use the item to cancel the dice or roll 1--3 and in someee circumstances its usefull
Hear me out they should make that you can cancel the creepy dice out with a movement item BUT then you lose said Item (If u mushroom the creepy away u lose the mushroom)
@@Tonytendomilk I was thinking of something where if you use a movement item it stacks on the creepy dice block. Like if you use a mushroom, it adds +5 to the dice roll; you use a double or triple dice, you roll the creepy dice block twice or thrice (albeit with the caveat that getting matching numbers WON'T give you extra coins); and using a custom dice block will make it so you can still choose the number, but it's only 1-3
HEAR ME OUR! The creepy dice does fuckin suck. I wish they had a poison mushroom item alongside it that SUBTRACTED 5 or 3 from a roll, which would guarantee some utility and wouldn’t get canceled. HOWEVER, I will defend the creepy dice as it still works well enough to force an opponent to use a mobility item when they may be saving it for later, especially something like the custom dice. AND MORE USEFUL, the creepy dice SLAPS on Mario’s Rainbow Castle since you can use it on yourself to stall before bowser. AND, it is a killer item in Pro Rules when the bonus star is Slowpoke since again, you can use it on yourself to reduce your roll dramatically.
The problem with using it to guarantee slowpoke is that you generally aren't moving around enough to be making plays on the board. It really baffles me that slowpoke is one of the stars in pro rules because it's deliberately against everything you should normally be doing to win a game of Mario Party. It's definitely at its best on Rainbow Castle though, but I don't think that's enough to really save it. Creepy definitely still has uses though, even in F tier it can come in handy, I just don't think you'd ever want to buy one which can't be said for basically every other item on this list.
I don’t understand why double dice and mushrooms are so far apart. I think DD are better but Mushrooms are cheaper and more consistent which means they should be very close, not a whole tier below.
the Cellular Shopper is in party mode but its just a rare item to get. you can only get it from item spaces or item bag from a lucky space. its the same rare as hidden block card so very rare chance you will get them from item spaces or item bag.
The issue with me with the Shop Hop box is that I feel like it’s kindaaaa…redundant? You’re getting this “item” supposedly from an item shop, to only warp BACK to the item shop to buy something else…it feels kindaaaaa idk useless since you could just use the item first, now yes, again if it’s like near a Boo or in a area you wanna go I’d say it’s good but the problem is again it’s random. I see the cool idea but I think sadly for me this item has more cons than pros. So I can understand the massive opinion changes when talking about it 😅 For me I’d put it in C Tier
the thing is you can chain shop hops to get to good areas or avoid bad ones like once you establish a lead on the Bowser Vault level, you literally never need to touch the Byway again, and can maintain your star lead
Item bag is very interesting If you already have only 0 items, it is the best thing ever (automatic golden tier) if you already have 1 item, you would get 2 items which would probably be an A or B tier. if you already have 2 items, you would only get 1 item, which probably be C or D tier. If you already have 3 items, its completely useless since you can't get more items, which would make item bag useless (F)
I would argue that a mushroom is as good as double dice. With both of them, the idea is to give you speed when moving around the board, and whilst the mushroom doesn't have the chance that the double dice does go super far, it also can't move you less than the double dice. Far too often, the double dice is a total waste, whereas even if you roll a 1 a mushroom will still give you decent movement. Sure, there's a tiny chance that you can get ten coins from a double dice, but there's also a much higher chance that you move 2-4 spaces. Also, Creepy Dice, Pipe and Shop Hop are all cheap and so situational - when they work, they are incredible, but there's such a rare occasion that you'd want to use them, I would put all of them in D tier personally as they do have use - just not most of the time
my thoughts were a steal star space is 5 spots ahead with a mushroom your guaranteed not to land on it since the lowest you can roll is a 6. but i guess the list is based on the item and not its practical use such as cursed dice onto a bowser spot
I think something that really holds the mushroom back is that it's almost always sitting in the same shop as a better item (usually double or preferably triple dice), so you're basically only buying it for the sake of rolling past a dangerous space. It depends on the type of player you are, but double dice have a slew of benefits, from a higher average roll, to the ability to pull 10 coins 10% of the time, to benefitting more from Luigi who is absolutely bonkers with multiple dice, and a greater peak than mushroom as well, all only at the cost of a 7% chance to roll lower than the mushroom's minimum roll.
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The creepy dice isn’t that bad honestly. It isn’t like a super amazing item and I definitely wouldn’t buy it in a shop over most other items but it has its uses. I had a game recently where I needed to stall before Boo to get enough coins to steal a star and the creepy dice came in clutch and basically won me the game. It’s also super punishing if your target doesn’t have a movement item or it can force them to use an item they wanted to save for later. All this is pretty situational but it can come in to play
Admittedly should have fact-checked this before saying it but I am 99% sure I've seen it used that way. Really makes the event space on galleria even scarier since you can reasonably get three or even four steals with the right setup.
Super Dueling Glove is ridiculously low especially when u can Duel stars. idgaf how much coins it costs. It costs that much for a reason!! or it'd be overpowered
40 coins is the kind of premium you used to pay back in mario party 6 to not have to risk your own star in a duel. Having it be 40 coins to still risk your own star is awful, especially with it right in front of Boo and in the same shop as the super swap mirror.
@@Zethoroyeah, why risk losing your star at a minigame and make someone even stronger, when u can just spend 10 more coins to just steal that guy's star?
@freezy_pop Fun fact about the loadstone. If you're playing the mall map and you land on the event where the whomp takes one of your items and gives you coins for double the item's price. If the whomp takes the loadstone, you get 20 coins out of it
Boo is a strong effect but its availability is terrible even by rainbow galleria's standards, it basically demands holding a custom block for a long time to even land on it, whereas the pipe is on almost every board and more easily accessible. In a vacuum it can be better though, having two steals on demand with a buddy is hilariously dumb. Just in practice it gets outshone on the one board it's readily available and basically doesn't exist otherwise.
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Shop hop is so good. Like in Bowser’s keep
It literally saved me
Mushroom having a mean roll of 10.5 while also guaranteeing 6 or more being a tier lower than double dice is hilarious
Double Dices has a 10% chance of granting 10 coins. So on average:
- Mushroom: +5 _(average: 5.5 → 10.5)_ for 3 coins, or 1 coin at One-Coin Shop.
- Double Dices: +1 to +10, 10% of gaining 10 coins _(average: 5.5 →11, +1 coin)_ for 5 coins (or 4 coins in average, factoring the coin gains).
I would argue that Double Dices enable "hope" to an unlikely outcome, like snatching something at 16-20 tiles away, or getting bonus coins when you lack them. So in short, Double Dices is marginally better, but Mushroom has the best quality-price ratio by far between the two.
Also having the mushroom lower than the chomp call is wild. Like I’m buying a mushroom significantly more often than a chomp
It's an item that has an extremely small niche and is only bought as much as it is because it has some shops in the game where it's the only movement item available. Double Dice are much more likely to be the "cheap staple" as they have a higher average roll and a higher peak. If you're buying a mushroom because you're scared of a 7% chance to roll worse than a 6, then you're giving yourself a handicap.
It's still a good item of course, movement is movement, it just is obsoleted by so many other items that it deserves to take a hit for it.
You either get the Super Mushroom for consistency or Triple for distance. Double is when you have to not spend a lot of money, and golden double should always be over double.
No. It's a sidegrade. Early game movement is not nearly as important as generating income for both coins and bonus stars. Even if it's slightly weaker on average you can still get the mushroom for both cost efficiency and the absolute guarantee of skipping 5 spaces (eg: bowsers, unwanted events, goomba low tide, western tracks etc.). There's VERY RARELY a situation in the first few turns where you NEED that small chance of a 15+ roll, and then by the time movement becomes relevant you'll be getting Triples in its place anyways.
tldr if you want consistency you get shrooms if you want movement you get triples
Hot take but i think the golden pipe is too cheap for a item this broken, i think it shold be 40 coins.
I think this is a valid take
I actually feel like this isn't a hot take at all.
I greatly dislike this item, for it undermines the players having to come up with creative strategies to win. Instead everybody tries to buy and use it as often as one can.
Plus even though any player can buy it, I feel like most of the time the player being in the lead is profiting from it the most, so already existing gaps are more likely to be increased, rather than closed.
The golden pipe should be either:
- more expensive
- only be purchasable/ usable by the player that is currently placed 4th (or maybe players 4th and 3rd)
- receive a change on how it places its' user: instead of placing it directly in front of the current star, it places the player in a random proximity to it, starting from 1 (best case, star guaranteed) to 10 (worst case).
- a combination of at least two things mentioned above
- dropped from the game entirely
I wish Jamboree had the same feature as Mario Kart 8, where you can manually choose the items that will show up during gameplay.
Sorry, but the tower turner is a D Tier item. In theory it should be in A, but not only can you not time the spin, but as you pointed out, there's simply several much better items to buy at the shop
May have been overrating it in hindsight, but having that much control over the board's main gimmick is game-changing. The main alternatives you'd buy (mainly the swap mirror) are luck and positioning based too, so it really just depends on what you value more at that moment.
I think when this was recorded I didn't realize just how good the steemer tickets were though, thinking of the movement as luck-based similar to the tower turner and not thinking about the part where you can send anyone on the tracks between you back to start. That's probably the only major thing I don't agree with on this list anymore.
I can confirm that FWEEET! is still in jamboree :) I use it frequently
Pipe is A tier because it's really fucking funny
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Hot take.the creepy dice block doesn’t need a nerf. It works well enough. I’ve seen people complain it’s underpowered, but it only costs 3 coins, and can be useful at times, especially when trying to stall. It also makes sense items that cost twice as much as it negate the role. The mushroom should probably just add 5 to the 1-3 role though.
I think creepy dices should't be able to be cancelled, but combined.
If you use a custom after someone used a creepy dice on you, you can choose beteween 1-3
If you use dobles, you can roll 1-3 twice
And so on
Shop Hop is insane on the right level, you can just chain them together until you get the result you want, or to avoid a dangerous area
cracked on the Bowser Vault level
Haha honestly. Especially if you can get to Koopa’s instead of the magikoopa shops in the latter half. Get a golden pipe and then you can pull up to the magikoopa shop and buy another shop hop
The tower turner is ass, while yes you can change from toad to bowzer and vice-versa, it's random if this happens or not. So there's a great chance you waste 20 coins on this for absolutely nothing
yeah it's booty buttchecks. The bowser turner is s though
Markup Sticker has some utility as a counter to Jamboree Buddy-double (to quadruple+) stars, as discussed, and it probably deserves at least D tier for that alone. Also, I saw a CPU buy the Super Dueling Glove for 80 coins because of that sticker once... couldn't afford Boo afterwards, and then it lost the duel later too. Worst play I've seen so far in this game 😅
One thing I'd do is buff it to impact Boo steals as well. It'd make it much harder to use Boo on this board and would give people more reason to consider buying this item. Though again, it has some niche utility as is (still not a great item, sadly, especially with the inflated economy in this game)
tbh the creepy dice, does kinda have alot of value for 3 coins, it pushes the enemy, to either use the item to cancel the dice or roll 1--3 and in someee circumstances its usefull
Hear me out they should make that you can cancel the creepy dice out with a movement item BUT then you lose said Item
(If u mushroom the creepy away u lose the mushroom)
@@Tonytendomilk Okay wait that's actually a really good idea
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U didn’t know that? that was a feature in superstars
@@Tonytendomilk I was thinking of something where if you use a movement item it stacks on the creepy dice block. Like if you use a mushroom, it adds +5 to the dice roll; you use a double or triple dice, you roll the creepy dice block twice or thrice (albeit with the caveat that getting matching numbers WON'T give you extra coins); and using a custom dice block will make it so you can still choose the number, but it's only 1-3
My favorite item in this game is the Loadstone. Because of how much I can appreciate it for being an on purpose, joke item
I literally got over 500 coins in one pro rules game, that 10 coin steal item is professional garbage lol. Glad it got D tier
HEAR ME OUR! The creepy dice does fuckin suck. I wish they had a poison mushroom item alongside it that SUBTRACTED 5 or 3 from a roll, which would guarantee some utility and wouldn’t get canceled. HOWEVER, I will defend the creepy dice as it still works well enough to force an opponent to use a mobility item when they may be saving it for later, especially something like the custom dice. AND MORE USEFUL, the creepy dice SLAPS on Mario’s Rainbow Castle since you can use it on yourself to stall before bowser. AND, it is a killer item in Pro Rules when the bonus star is Slowpoke since again, you can use it on yourself to reduce your roll dramatically.
The problem with using it to guarantee slowpoke is that you generally aren't moving around enough to be making plays on the board. It really baffles me that slowpoke is one of the stars in pro rules because it's deliberately against everything you should normally be doing to win a game of Mario Party. It's definitely at its best on Rainbow Castle though, but I don't think that's enough to really save it.
Creepy definitely still has uses though, even in F tier it can come in handy, I just don't think you'd ever want to buy one which can't be said for basically every other item on this list.
8:14 No way. This alone got me a star due to an item shop being right next to it. It can literally be a gold pipe but 7 times cheaper
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I don’t understand why double dice and mushrooms are so far apart. I think DD are better but Mushrooms are cheaper and more consistent which means they should be very close, not a whole tier below.
the Cellular Shopper is in party mode but its just a rare item to get. you can only get it from item spaces or item bag from a lucky space. its the same rare as hidden block card so very rare chance you will get them from item spaces or item bag.
The issue with me with the Shop Hop box is that I feel like it’s kindaaaa…redundant?
You’re getting this “item” supposedly from an item shop, to only warp BACK to the item shop to buy something else…it feels kindaaaaa idk useless since you could just use the item first, now yes, again if it’s like near a Boo or in a area you wanna go I’d say it’s good but the problem is again it’s random.
I see the cool idea but I think sadly for me this item has more cons than pros.
So I can understand the massive opinion changes when talking about it 😅
For me I’d put it in C Tier
the thing is you can chain shop hops to get to good areas or avoid bad ones
like once you establish a lead on the Bowser Vault level, you literally never need to touch the Byway again, and can maintain your star lead
If u got ally that turn tho
Item bag is very interesting
If you already have only 0 items, it is the best thing ever (automatic golden tier)
if you already have 1 item, you would get 2 items which would probably be an A or B tier.
if you already have 2 items, you would only get 1 item, which probably be C or D tier.
If you already have 3 items, its completely useless since you can't get more items, which would make item bag useless (F)
I would argue that a mushroom is as good as double dice. With both of them, the idea is to give you speed when moving around the board, and whilst the mushroom doesn't have the chance that the double dice does go super far, it also can't move you less than the double dice. Far too often, the double dice is a total waste, whereas even if you roll a 1 a mushroom will still give you decent movement. Sure, there's a tiny chance that you can get ten coins from a double dice, but there's also a much higher chance that you move 2-4 spaces.
Also, Creepy Dice, Pipe and Shop Hop are all cheap and so situational - when they work, they are incredible, but there's such a rare occasion that you'd want to use them, I would put all of them in D tier personally as they do have use - just not most of the time
my thoughts were a steal star space is 5 spots ahead with a mushroom your guaranteed not to land on it since the lowest you can roll is a 6.
but i guess the list is based on the item and not its practical use such as cursed dice onto a bowser spot
I think something that really holds the mushroom back is that it's almost always sitting in the same shop as a better item (usually double or preferably triple dice), so you're basically only buying it for the sake of rolling past a dangerous space. It depends on the type of player you are, but double dice have a slew of benefits, from a higher average roll, to the ability to pull 10 coins 10% of the time, to benefitting more from Luigi who is absolutely bonkers with multiple dice, and a greater peak than mushroom as well, all only at the cost of a 7% chance to roll lower than the mushroom's minimum roll.
Loadstone is golden tier🙏🙏
Best item in whole entire game no cap
I feel like the duel glove is not as good cause bowser revolution is a thing that happens quite often
Hello there Mr Freezy. I enjoyed the tier list and it was a lot of fun to go over the items. 😀
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32:00 if u had no star he takes all your coins
The colour of the tiers in infuriating
The creepy dice isn’t that bad honestly. It isn’t like a super amazing item and I definitely wouldn’t buy it in a shop over most other items but it has its uses. I had a game recently where I needed to stall before Boo to get enough coins to steal a star and the creepy dice came in clutch and basically won me the game. It’s also super punishing if your target doesn’t have a movement item or it can force them to use an item they wanted to save for later. All this is pretty situational but it can come in to play
I'm always confused as how Mushroom will cancell out Creepy Dice. Shouldn't it just add 5 to your Creepy Dice roll?
@Radius_E I think it just kept the same cancel out mechanic like from Mario Party 3 and Superstars
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But jamboree buddies dont work with items
I thought it was only for board stuff
They work with cellular shopper so I don't see why they wouldn't work with the boo bell
@superdreamsgames4587 oh.
Well i guess i didnt see enough for that
Admittedly should have fact-checked this before saying it but I am 99% sure I've seen it used that way. Really makes the event space on galleria even scarier since you can reasonably get three or even four steals with the right setup.
@@Zethoro yeah i can see why its scary
Super Dueling Glove is ridiculously low especially when u can Duel stars. idgaf how much coins it costs. It costs that much for a reason!! or it'd be overpowered
40 coins is the kind of premium you used to pay back in mario party 6 to not have to risk your own star in a duel. Having it be 40 coins to still risk your own star is awful, especially with it right in front of Boo and in the same shop as the super swap mirror.
@@Zethoroyeah, why risk losing your star at a minigame and make someone even stronger, when u can just spend 10 more coins to just steal that guy's star?
Bad list loadstone too low
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@freezy_pop Fun fact about the loadstone. If you're playing the mall map and you land on the event where the whomp takes one of your items and gives you coins for double the item's price. If the whomp takes the loadstone, you get 20 coins out of it
Im sorry, why is GOLDEN PIPE above boo bell, thats absolutely bonkers.
Boo is a strong effect but its availability is terrible even by rainbow galleria's standards, it basically demands holding a custom block for a long time to even land on it, whereas the pipe is on almost every board and more easily accessible.
In a vacuum it can be better though, having two steals on demand with a buddy is hilariously dumb. Just in practice it gets outshone on the one board it's readily available and basically doesn't exist otherwise.