Chopin Prelude no. 20 in C minor: A PERFECT POEM - Analysis

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  • @jackwilkinson2254
    @jackwilkinson2254 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Should the last note in the right hand in bar 3 not be an E natural? There’s no accidental to revert it back after the accidental on the 2nd right hand note?

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Right, this is apparently an issue of uncertainty, most recordings and other edition for example my Wiener Urtext treat it as a misprint and have a flat sign (in parenthesis) there. But you can hear the occasional C major in some recordings. I prefer C minor, but my mention of it didn't make the final cut so good that you commented!

    • @weepingscorpion8739
      @weepingscorpion8739 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was going to ask the same thing. Thanks. I see @sonatasecrets points but I hear it better as E natural, as it being following by D - G twice after that is a nice modulation to G major in bar 4 before crashing back to C minor in bar 5.

    • @MrRicksStudio
      @MrRicksStudio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Chopin corrected it to E flat in some students’ copies.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah, there are arguments for both versions.

    • @MrRicksStudio
      @MrRicksStudio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@SonataSecrets Did some TH-cam sleuthing because I was too lazy to pull out my 78s. Cortot (Descombes pupil) plays E flat, Koczalski (Mikuli pupil) plays E natural. Can't recall if Pachmann recorded this prelude - his would be interesting since he studied with Mme. Rubio, and her scores were often marked up...Between these three, I would say Cortot is more the scholar. In his printed edition of the Preludes, he adds a flat and states that it was corrected with pencil by Chopin in Jane Stirling's copy. I would believe her scores to be reliable, especially since she was with him till death, practically. Final thoughts, perhaps?

  • @kevingmccann8552
    @kevingmccann8552 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    This is a really great analysis of the harmony . I don't think there is anything on TH-cam as valuable as your tutorials. I hope you can continue these great contributions

    • @eqon1234
      @eqon1234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would agree! I haven't found anything on TH-cam as insightful and easy to understand as his analysis! Thank you Henrik!

  • @tomlabooks3263
    @tomlabooks3263 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As an amateur pianist, I had never heard this one before, it’s so gorgeous … thank you for making me discover it!!!!

  • @sx99cornell
    @sx99cornell 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it's rarely the case that when you slow down a video it feels better, 0.75 speed for this piece is perfect

    • @22alex
      @22alex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i agree that he may have played it just a bit too quickly, rushing instead of soaking in the harmonies that Chopin wouldve wanted us to hear

  • @jtbasener8740
    @jtbasener8740 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love that these videos always possess such a thorough analysis of not just the theory, but also how the theory affects the emotion. It is really inspiring; thank you, my friend.

  • @throatwobblermangrove7508
    @throatwobblermangrove7508 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Heard a lot of performances of this piece, but yours is the most beautiful.

  • @michaelthomheadley
    @michaelthomheadley 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I hope you never stop making these! They are so helpful for a budding piano performer like myself. And hilarious emoticons

  • @più_lento_28_13
    @più_lento_28_13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love when you do some Chopin, Henrik !

  • @PianoScenesMoviesandSeries
    @PianoScenesMoviesandSeries 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wonderful analysis as expected. Thank you, Henrik.

  • @magicyandereaxe
    @magicyandereaxe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love this insight, I'll use it to help me shape this prelude even more for my recital!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Good luck with your recital!

  • @orchestrain88keys
    @orchestrain88keys 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great analysis!
    Looking forward to an in-depth analysis of Chopin prelude no. 24.

  • @franticfabulous5967
    @franticfabulous5967 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! One of Chopin's shortest and easiest pieces but one of my very favorites. So tragic and somber.

  • @Henri.d.Olivoir
    @Henri.d.Olivoir 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    More Chopin, I am excited!

  • @Sirlene-et9ut
    @Sirlene-et9ut 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing prelude! And I love your analysis!
    Congratulations!❤

  • @margarethansen7480
    @margarethansen7480 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Perfect analysis for this beautiful and strong Chopin’s Prelude, wrich harmonie was very well explaned in your vídeo ❤
    I didn’t find someone who teaches and create lessons like you in TH-cam.Thanks a lot and continue please doing that

  • @Phaseish
    @Phaseish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

  • @darkside1928
    @darkside1928 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another incredible video and analysis. I have a new appreciation for this piece thanks to you! Keep up the amazing work!!

  • @acompyt
    @acompyt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Amazing video as always! Would you please consider for a larder video doing one of his Scherzo's or his 4th Ballade? It would be an amazing watch! Have an amazing day!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah, those big pieces are high up on the list to do something about in a future chapter of the channel. We'll see.

    • @acompyt
      @acompyt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SonataSecrets Cannot wait to see what you come up with!

  • @musterionsurly
    @musterionsurly 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    very well done, thankyou.

  • @jean.marion
    @jean.marion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is SO funny to me. I'm composing a song in C minor and wanted to know what Chopin did with the key. So just last night, I played this very song, and here it is today! lol. Also loved the phrase: "never anything else than what it always was, and it was always going to end up..." just perfect. Thanks again for your happy teaching face. 😇

  • @wladypimentel
    @wladypimentel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this one. Thank you.

  • @patricwalker3551
    @patricwalker3551 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here we go! Loved your last one. Very excited for this.

  • @lykeioschoolprojects9806
    @lykeioschoolprojects9806 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really great analysis Henrik! Keep 'em coming!!

  • @trevrockgw
    @trevrockgw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it Henrik! Thank you!

  • @Eindebaas
    @Eindebaas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very inspiring, I truly appreciate the effort you put into these.

  • @evanever
    @evanever 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I must have been playing this right as you uploaded.

  • @akfkml1747
    @akfkml1747 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hello, there is a piece that i wanted you to analyse for a long time. it is chopin's nocturne op 48 no 2. you analysed the first piece in the opus, and the two after it. so i would be really happy to see your interpretation of the nocturne, both musically and analytically :)

  • @alexyork9917
    @alexyork9917 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting that you describe the 2nd chord in bar 6 (French augmented sixth) as an Ab7 with a flat 5 whereas I would think it makes more sense to think of it as a D7 (in 2nd inversion) with a flat 5. Firstly, it is notated the way I describe with an Ab being the flat 5 of a D7 rather than spelling the D natural as an Ebb (in an Ab7 flat 5) but also it makes more sense to think of it as an altered D7 being the dominant to the G which comes after.

  • @andrews68
    @andrews68 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember watching a wwii documentary called wings of the Luftwaffe and they had an orchestral version of this, along w Ride of the Valkyrie, as some of the main theme music. I enjoy playing this on piano: short and easy but sounds impressive.

  • @peterchan6082
    @peterchan6082 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The RH E note that appears in the end of the 3rd bar is an E natural rather than E-flat.
    It just doesn't sound right to me with an E-flat there.

  • @josantonioalcantara
    @josantonioalcantara 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, I really love this prelude. I find that all of them are small gems.
    In the repetition I don’t like to use the una corda pedal, but I get the point. The reason is that i feel you loose the character of the piece with it and when you did it, once more I corroborated it. I think you can still get a different color without that pedal. It is a matter of cushion well your chords and you get a different effect. The character of the piece is maestuoso with the opposite feeling of triumph

  • @djtomt
    @djtomt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Inspiring! :)

  • @that7650
    @that7650 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite performance of this price is ezzio bosso’s.

  • @grumpybumblebee6663
    @grumpybumblebee6663 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your videos although I understand a fraction of them 😅. Could you make a series on the basics of the theory? I would even buy it!

  • @markcbeaumont4670
    @markcbeaumont4670 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yoi are aware some editions have E natural at the end of measure 3

  • @lucillereilly
    @lucillereilly 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hold it! I am looking at beats 2 and 4 in measure 3 on what looks like an old printing of this wonderful piece. Beat 2 shows E natural in the melody, yet beat 4,showing E in the same octave, is played as Eb. I am surprised that the natural sign isn’t being observed for all of measure 3. There aren’t any Ebs elsewhere in measure 3 to cancel the E natural. I played this piece many years ago and know it well. The minor beat 4 sounds heavy and jarring. This is the fourth video I have heard just now that does this same thing in measure 3. Please explain! Thank you.

  • @chuckbosio2924
    @chuckbosio2924 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To my irritation, I hear Barry Manilow. I think he borrowed some of the music from this piece and wailed endlessly about someone named Mandy.

    • @davetye
      @davetye วันที่ผ่านมา

      Could it be Magic?

  • @nicklass7075
    @nicklass7075 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you do analysis of Chopin's Waltz in a minor B. 150

  • @dj-assass1n629
    @dj-assass1n629 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great upload! any chance of you going over op25 no7? thanks

  • @SuperWimsky
    @SuperWimsky 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is the sound quality so bad....?😪 I love this piece...however a little bit slower wouldn't harm the emotions.

  • @andrews68
    @andrews68 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry I’m confused … isn’t bar 3 beat 4 still e natural ie C major chord ? 🤔 I play C major there …

  • @normandbeaudoin7130
    @normandbeaudoin7130 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Allo better put your pedal out shortly at each melodic
    " word" to permit the auditor to clearly follw the shape Chopin gave to the sentence. Bellart

  • @terrylast624
    @terrylast624 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Little fast.

  • @Chris_Sheridan
    @Chris_Sheridan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great piece by Chopin but played in a very bland and boring fashion - too slow - sounds like a monotonous plodding.