That comparison at the end was interesting...I didn't realize Konnor was only a point behind. Not sure if she is competing this year, but last year she left out some difficulty on bars and beam. Still sad that Russia didn't send her to worlds 2021. That would have been her one chance to become world AA champ
@@tambam6744what does that have to do with her lines? Her being skinny and white has nothing to do with her beautiful leaps and bars,I swear you Americans reach too far, you think everyone sees everything through race because you actually do. Instead of arguing stupid things you should be helping women in your teams since now they are being invaded by men hahahahahahahaha
@@tambam6744haha you are on every Russian gymnastics video. The number 1 fan. Is so fun you talk about flexed feet and lines being an American gymnastics fan. What about almost every USA gymnast doing their RO+BHS with legs separated, is that lines and elegance for you??? Sorry, but if you watch any gymnastics competition, Americans never receives compliments about elegance, presentation. While they always said that about the Russians, that their artistry was always unbeatable . Stop being a hater, and if you want to be, use arguments, you can’t talk about lines or elegance being fan of Americans 😅
@@ilitleo Actually I can and I did :) Russians have terrible tumbling technique that makes people want to bleach their eyes. Every acro skill they do, they look like their struggling for their life. There is nothing elegant about Russian technical ability.
@@marcosoliveira1649 many people are not interested in Biles anymore. Even though she is good, difficult and etc prefer to watch somebody new. She will make a mistake if she comes back. Let her remain in her glory, not in a fall
Her advantage is mainly on bars, which can legitimately help her gain 15+ with a 6.6D routine. Beam difficulty means nothing when she can't hit the routine, and execution matters more. Her floor is probably around mid 14 range.
well, mid-14 is what you need to get gold. That is definitely 8.4 if judged the right way on floor and that is the kind of score that gives you a gold medal on floor.
Agreed. I can’t really take her beam seriously at the moment even though she has all the difficulty and more. Bars are just amazing, her vault is pretty good, and her floor tends to score amazingly internationally and with the upgrades that floor could acc take gold if it’s a hit as his her bars. She’s slowly becoming the new Simone. She has even more difficulty to show and the international judges love her. If she gets a cheng it’s over for everyone
Great video and thank you for your work! The comparison at the end is interesting! Rebeca is better on vault, in E score and D socre (Cheng) but the best E score probably is that of Listunova, on bars, floor and beam (if she performed the routine without big errors)
Her execution was so clean but pls I am crying about the 7.9 execution on beam with a fall and big wobble, they really tried to give her a 9+ E-Score? 😭
I think there are still some potential bonus connection points she could get on beam if she connects some of the elements. Obviously that's going to be hard to do, and probably they were already attempted and we just didn't see them connect. I wonder about her total difficulty vs Angelina Melnikova? Like during the 2016 Olympics, I think Mustafina didn't have the highest difficulty in the Russian team (or even in the world) but she ended up with a bronze AA. Of course as you pointed out, they're not doing international competitions so we don't know how these scores would hold up.
If she did all of her connections she would’ve had a 6.6 difficulty. In theory, she could connect the mount with her leap series to gain 0.2 more in CV but it would be a terrible idea lol
The only thing holding her back is difficulty on vault and consistency on BB. She definitely is one of the most well-rounded gymnasts out there today and would do very well even without the national inflated scores. What I find odd about her though, is that she can do some of the hardest skills with near-perfect execution, but then get really sloppy on basic things like a round off or in her twisting form. That helicopter leg on her UB dismount is quirky as well.
На национальных стартах оценивают очень строго , тому есть свои причины ! А что касается техники , то например у Байлз , когда наконец судить стали правильно техника максимум 8..2 ! А на Олимпиаде в Токио американкам точно показали на каком уровне их топорная работа ! Японцы в этом отношении очень честные и судейство было строгим для всех ! И было видно что наши девчонки технически были выше американок , в сложности например на опорном прыжке уступали , но не сильно ! А вот брусья конечно у Россиянок отточены !!!!
If she hits on these routines she could medal in AA for sure. Some of these execution scores were actually insane however (floor and beam specifically were overscored by probably at least 0.5). I wonder why she doesn’t add a full twisting double back into floor if she’s already doing the double double.
Her floor has probably potential to be upgraded, but the execution scores were way too high, especially on beam with a fall (which is 1 full point off) and that big wobble
The full twisting double almost always gets a 0.1 or 0.3 deduction for leg separation, meaning it wouldn’t benefit the score. Also, she lands her passes very cleanly, and the full in just adds more unnecessary risk
Excuse me but who’s on floor during bars? Who has the Charisma Uniqueness Nerve and Talent to use a violin version of Cry Me a River? Don’t care I’m a stan
Тут смотрю все диванные эксперты собрались ??? Когда наконец восстановили честное судейство на мировых стартах , все стало на свои места , нельзя путать гимнастику с акробатикой или цирком ! Циркачи работают чисто для зрелища амв спорте нужна красота и хорошая техника ! В Токио судили всех правильно и Американки очень проигрывали многим именно технически , за счёт сложности выезжали , но оценки уже были не такие высокие как раньше , что вызывало недоумение на лице Балз ! По международным правилам оценивается все , натянутые носки ,колени , полный поворот винтовых прыжков , амплитудность , мелкие ошибки не заметные зрителю сбавка 0.1 д, средняя 0.3 - 0.5 д , грубая от 1 балла до 2 , если ( это касается бревна ) гимнастка встала после прыжка на бревно а потом соскочила то элемент засчитан , но спортсменка теряет балл , сложность не только в акробатике , но и в прыжковых связках , в поворотах стоя , что касается прыжков в шпагат , то разножка должна быть четко по горизонтали или выше , если горизонтали нет , то прыжки не засчитываются как прыжки в шпагат ! Если на фляках и темпах разведены ноги это тоже сбавка , если на брусьях не собраны ноги , тоже сбавка , подсогнула локти сбавка , не доведена стойка - сбавка ! Отсутствие артистизма и хореографии - сбавка и не маленькая так как это спец.тркбование ! Единицы кто способен получить за технику 9 и выше ! Из этого складывается общая оценка : например за технику оценка 8.2 а сложность 6.2 в итоге 14.4 , сложность может быть 5.4 а техника 9.2 вот вам 14 .6 !!! В Токио у Байлз даже без падений в квалификации техника была на уровне 8 баллов ! На одном из снарядов на Олимпиаде Уразова отстала от Симоны всего на 66 сотых , так как технически была выше ! Очень технично работает Ребекка из Бразилии , но на мировом чемпионате 2023 ее явно задвинули , за уши тянули американок , хотя Бразилия была выше ! Но Это увы не Япония ! Японцы в этом отношении очень правильные !
@@andersonadmufrn no one knows, probably until the entire situation of the invasion of Ukraine by Russia fully calm down since that's why all these sanctions of Russian and Belarusian athletes happened. That's gonna take a long time since it's politics and they may still be banned depending on what decisions everyone makes.
Obviously Super Inflated scores but the performance was solid.She is steadily improving, but i don't think she is ahead of the top world class gymnast. In the same mix? yes, definitely.
@@gymlandia4467 haha I see bitterness,even d Simon bile has cross leg and flex feet,yet she rules, lustinova has come to rule,if ur country are not afraid of dis gals why did dey support them to be ban, haha, don't worry dey are coming to shot ur mouth
Listunova has the capability to beat Rebeca. It would depend on how they both performed on the day. No one’s saying that Viktoria would be guaranteed to beat her, just that her difficulty is currently slightly higher.
08.07.24. Киев. Охматдит. Лучшая детская больница Украины , надежда деток на помощь и жизнь. Двум детям с утра начали делать операции . Что сделала русия в это время? Ракеты направила в эту больницу и роддом. Погибли люди. Так кого может интересовать листунова, поддерживающая гибель украинцев? Детей, старых людей, беременных,молодых. ???
Я очень уважаю Ребенку , но соревнования вещь непредсказуемая ! Россия никогда не будет плясать под чужую дудку и сохранит настоящую гимнастку ! А вот Румыния потеряла свою школу ! Бразилия молодцы , достойные соперницы !!!
I think Russia must stop the war against Ukraine, pay reparations , apoligize and then Russian athletes would be allowed to compete. I'm very sorry for Victoria not able to shine internationally. Fantastic performance at RC
Сначала пусть США извинятся за использование допинга Симоной Байлз и стравливание народов , разжигание войн по всему миру ! Сирия , Ливия , Югославия , Вьетнам и тд !
suni lost her yurchenko entry so i hope she can get back her lopez or get that cheng because she needs a strong vault if she doesn’t have a DTY this year.
@@gymcentric5727 The Suni doubter is back. Suni lost her Yurchenko entry a year ago. For all we know, she has it but doesn’t do it because she training for the Cheng. I think she’ll have it back by worlds this year.
@@tambam6744 i’m only assuming she still doesn’t have her DTY back because we haven’t had an update on it. That’s not doubting her, that’s just the last thing we’ve heard about her Yurchenko.
Of all the Russian seniors, she's the least expected to excel on bars but she has. This girl is something else. Hope she hits when it matters.
Why? She had very good swing on bars as junior.
Летает, как ласточка, легкая изящная , воздушная. Очень красиао, молодец, Вика!
thanks for posting!
she is great !!
I agree with you completely. Love her!
the E scores the judges were giving were definitely SOMETHING, felt like NCAA lol. but really impressive gymnastics!
SHE IS THE MOMENT!!!
That comparison at the end was interesting...I didn't realize Konnor was only a point behind. Not sure if she is competing this year, but last year she left out some difficulty on bars and beam.
Still sad that Russia didn't send her to worlds 2021. That would have been her one chance to become world AA champ
She' was nursing injury
Ей всего было 16 лет , на Олимпиаде она вообще была впервые !
Highest level of gymnastics! Beautiful lines, and outstanding physical, technical, and artistic skills. Bravo! Russia rocks!
“Beautiful lines”, yet she flexes her feet in every RO and BHS… just say she’s skinny, lacks muscular definition, and is fair skinned.
@@tambam6744what does that have to do with her lines? Her being skinny and white has nothing to do with her beautiful leaps and bars,I swear you Americans reach too far, you think everyone sees everything through race because you actually do.
Instead of arguing stupid things you should be helping women in your teams since now they are being invaded by men hahahahahahahaha
@@tambam6744haha you are on every Russian gymnastics video. The number 1 fan. Is so fun you talk about flexed feet and lines being an American gymnastics fan. What about almost every USA gymnast doing their RO+BHS with legs separated, is that lines and elegance for you??? Sorry, but if you watch any gymnastics competition, Americans never receives compliments about elegance, presentation. While they always said that about the Russians, that their artistry was always unbeatable . Stop being a hater, and if you want to be, use arguments, you can’t talk about lines or elegance being fan of Americans 😅
@@ilitleo Actually I can and I did :) Russians have terrible tumbling technique that makes people want to bleach their eyes. Every acro skill they do, they look like their struggling for their life. There is nothing elegant about Russian technical ability.
So true! If a gymnast is not afro, that's the end for Russian haters!@@ilitleo
If Russia gets back to competition officially, she's going to be truly hard to beat! Spectacular talent!
😂easily for Biles. She Will compete Next year.
@@marcosoliveira1649 many people are not interested in Biles anymore. Even though she is good, difficult and etc prefer to watch somebody new.
She will make a mistake if she comes back. Let her remain in her glory, not in a fall
@@veselanacheva5222 lol. Biles doesn't Care about your point of view.
@@marcosoliveira1649 no problems with that.
@@veselanacheva5222 "Many people are not interested in Biles"? 😂 That's conjecture. Biles is a popular gymnast.
Excellent Russian sports world. Congratulations.😉
Her advantage is mainly on bars, which can legitimately help her gain 15+ with a 6.6D routine. Beam difficulty means nothing when she can't hit the routine, and execution matters more. Her floor is probably around mid 14 range.
well, mid-14 is what you need to get gold. That is definitely 8.4 if judged the right way on floor and that is the kind of score that gives you a gold medal on floor.
I smell bitterness, hahahha, pls calm down let ur hatred die pls
@@ezehrichard4200 What bitterness? These are compliment than what u think
@@cocoroni1031 compliment? Go re read ur comment then come back and tell me what u saw
Agreed. I can’t really take her beam seriously at the moment even though she has all the difficulty and more. Bars are just amazing, her vault is pretty good, and her floor tends to score amazingly internationally and with the upgrades that floor could acc take gold if it’s a hit as his her bars. She’s slowly becoming the new Simone. She has even more difficulty to show and the international judges love her. If she gets a cheng it’s over for everyone
Great video and thank you for your work! The comparison at the end is interesting! Rebeca is better on vault, in E score and D socre (Cheng) but the best E score probably is that of Listunova, on bars, floor and beam (if she performed the routine without big errors)
Her execution was so clean but pls I am crying about the 7.9 execution on beam with a fall and big wobble, they really tried to give her a 9+ E-Score? 😭
People complain about American domestic scoring but Italy and especially Russia are SO bad with it
i love her floor v much!!!
I think there are still some potential bonus connection points she could get on beam if she connects some of the elements. Obviously that's going to be hard to do, and probably they were already attempted and we just didn't see them connect.
I wonder about her total difficulty vs Angelina Melnikova? Like during the 2016 Olympics, I think Mustafina didn't have the highest difficulty in the Russian team (or even in the world) but she ended up with a bronze AA.
Of course as you pointed out, they're not doing international competitions so we don't know how these scores would hold up.
The gain by connection points is very marginal. Those points can be deducted right away through rhythm deductions.
If she did all of her connections she would’ve had a 6.6 difficulty. In theory, she could connect the mount with her leap series to gain 0.2 more in CV but it would be a terrible idea lol
She's amazing 😭Fuck the Russia ban, she's a world champ to me
Some of the comments here are mad for a gym video. Chill out y'all
The only thing holding her back is difficulty on vault and consistency on BB. She definitely is one of the most well-rounded gymnasts out there today and would do very well even without the national inflated scores. What I find odd about her though, is that she can do some of the hardest skills with near-perfect execution, but then get really sloppy on basic things like a round off or in her twisting form. That helicopter leg on her UB dismount is quirky as well.
Looks like a bit lack of confidence...isn't it
На национальных стартах оценивают очень строго , тому есть свои причины ! А что касается техники , то например у Байлз , когда наконец судить стали правильно техника максимум 8..2 ! А на Олимпиаде в Токио американкам точно показали на каком уровне их топорная работа ! Японцы в этом отношении очень честные и судейство было строгим для всех ! И было видно что наши девчонки технически были выше американок , в сложности например на опорном прыжке уступали , но не сильно ! А вот брусья конечно у Россиянок отточены !!!!
so sad she won't compete at euros
A maior, ninguém acima dela. O AA desse ano é dela😌🙌🙌
Nunca será Carolyne Peter
@@marcoswillian96 haha are u afraid
@@ezehrichard4200 Afraid of having bad technique and being overscored?
duvido que ela acerte tudo que ta nesse video numa competição internacional UDHAIUHSUID Rebeca pra mim >>>>>
@@tambam6744 afraid of her crushing d lazy and sluggish gymnast ?ur State need to learn from her ok
Didn’t she get the .1 CV on floor for the Memmel + illusion?
Yes, the video has already stated that
@@cocoroni1031 The scoring for floor showed no CV.
I hope to see her at paris Olympics
Somebody said, Russians can compete individual
Yes they can if they meet a certain criteria.
Никаких ОИ поддержавшим убийство украинцев.
If she hits on these routines she could medal in AA for sure. Some of these execution scores were actually insane however (floor and beam specifically were overscored by probably at least 0.5). I wonder why she doesn’t add a full twisting double back into floor if she’s already doing the double double.
Her floor has probably potential to be upgraded, but the execution scores were way too high, especially on beam with a fall (which is 1 full point off) and that big wobble
The full twisting double almost always gets a 0.1 or 0.3 deduction for leg separation, meaning it wouldn’t benefit the score. Also, she lands her passes very cleanly, and the full in just adds more unnecessary risk
She really needs to up her training on vault
Excuse me but who’s on floor during bars? Who has the Charisma Uniqueness Nerve and Talent to use a violin version of Cry Me a River? Don’t care I’m a stan
Not with ease. I think she might beat Rebecca if she hits beam
Ребекка достойная соперница !!! С ней интересно соревноваться !
There's no way her beam mount is credited as a pike, right?
She’s Russian so yes
@@tambam6744 Idk if it's the angle but it looks like it's tucked from the very start. Pity if they actually credit it
@@mojovr5003 its a front pike but prob would get deductions
.1 for Memmel + illusion?
Тут смотрю все диванные эксперты собрались ??? Когда наконец восстановили честное судейство на мировых стартах , все стало на свои места , нельзя путать гимнастику с акробатикой или цирком ! Циркачи работают чисто для зрелища амв спорте нужна красота и хорошая техника ! В Токио судили всех правильно и Американки очень проигрывали многим именно технически , за счёт сложности выезжали , но оценки уже были не такие высокие как раньше , что вызывало недоумение на лице Балз ! По международным правилам оценивается все , натянутые носки ,колени , полный поворот винтовых прыжков , амплитудность , мелкие ошибки не заметные зрителю сбавка 0.1 д, средняя 0.3 - 0.5 д , грубая от 1 балла до 2 , если ( это касается бревна ) гимнастка встала после прыжка на бревно а потом соскочила то элемент засчитан , но спортсменка теряет балл , сложность не только в акробатике , но и в прыжковых связках , в поворотах стоя , что касается прыжков в шпагат , то разножка должна быть четко по горизонтали или выше , если горизонтали нет , то прыжки не засчитываются как прыжки в шпагат ! Если на фляках и темпах разведены ноги это тоже сбавка , если на брусьях не собраны ноги , тоже сбавка , подсогнула локти сбавка , не доведена стойка - сбавка ! Отсутствие артистизма и хореографии - сбавка и не маленькая так как это спец.тркбование ! Единицы кто способен получить за технику 9 и выше ! Из этого складывается общая оценка : например за технику оценка 8.2 а сложность 6.2 в итоге 14.4 , сложность может быть 5.4 а техника 9.2 вот вам 14 .6 !!! В Токио у Байлз даже без падений в квалификации техника была на уровне 8 баллов ! На одном из снарядов на Олимпиаде Уразова отстала от Симоны всего на 66 сотых , так как технически была выше ! Очень технично работает Ребекка из Бразилии , но на мировом чемпионате 2023 ее явно задвинули , за уши тянули американок , хотя Бразилия была выше ! Но Это увы не Япония ! Японцы в этом отношении очень правильные !
E como ficou a situação da Rússia?
Elas podem competir internacionalmente em 2023?
No, they've been banned from competing ever since around March of 2022.
@@halfway7690 que pena
Obrigado por responder amigo
@@halfway7690 mas até quando?
@@andersonadmufrn no one knows, probably until the entire situation of the invasion of Ukraine by Russia fully calm down since that's why all these sanctions of Russian and Belarusian athletes happened. That's gonna take a long time since it's politics and they may still be banned depending on what decisions everyone makes.
Beautiful of the Russians.
Superinflated is an understatement... she is very good though.
Just watched what reportedly was the Russian national championships on bars.....you've got to be kidding me! Can someone please explain this to me?
5 months later and no one can. Hmm!
Obviously Super Inflated scores but the performance was solid.She is steadily improving, but i don't think she is ahead of the top world class gymnast. In the same mix? yes, definitely.
Ещё как опережает !
Rebeca Andrade ganhará dela!!
XDDDD
Suni and Rebeca still have the advantage. We haven’t seen Shilese’s & Chiles upgrades either both are capable of beating her.
Not in d dream, Victoria is clean and has d best line and best expression
@@ezehrichard4200 do not doubt suni lee..
@@ezehrichard4200 you seen Her twisting form best lines 🤣🤣🤣.
@@gymlandia4467 haha I see bitterness,even d Simon bile has cross leg and flex feet,yet she rules, lustinova has come to rule,if ur country are not afraid of dis gals why did dey support them to be ban, haha, don't worry dey are coming to shot ur mouth
Ezeh Richard Suni could potentially come back with 24.7 in Difficulty which would completely DESTROY the rest of the field even with a fall.
Rebeca can still beat her.
Listunova has the capability to beat Rebeca. It would depend on how they both performed on the day. No one’s saying that Viktoria would be guaranteed to beat her, just that her difficulty is currently slightly higher.
@@viclit101 para julgar isso precisaríamos saber as novas dificuldades da Rebeca, e ela está treinando em segredo, como sempre fez.
Listy has the enough D score to beat Rebeca, i think that they are on par, it's matter of consistency and having a Good day.
She has one of the oddest vaulting techniques I’ve seen, my god…
What do you mean?
Odd??? You mean ugly.
Nooo, she has a very good technic and it'very cleau overall, her feet are maybe no so pointed
Much improved, but she still hitches her knee a wee bit on the entry.
У каждой гимнастки своя техника , это зависит от роста и веса , когда девочка вырастает ей вообще приходится заново технику менять
08.07.24. Киев. Охматдит. Лучшая детская больница Украины , надежда деток на помощь и жизнь.
Двум детям с утра начали делать операции .
Что сделала русия в это время? Ракеты направила в эту больницу и роддом. Погибли люди.
Так кого может интересовать листунова, поддерживающая гибель украинцев? Детей, старых людей, беременных,молодых.
???
Поддержала войну- нет карьере.
This video is clickbait. This will never beat Rebecca andrage
Andrade isn't a female.....................
@@riabright2815such comments are so embarrassing
Я очень уважаю Ребенку , но соревнования вещь непредсказуемая ! Россия никогда не будет плясать под чужую дудку и сохранит настоящую гимнастку ! А вот Румыния потеряла свою школу ! Бразилия молодцы , достойные соперницы !!!
@@riabright2815 это Байлз не понятно кто
I think Russia must stop the war against Ukraine, pay reparations , apoligize and then Russian athletes would be allowed to compete. I'm very sorry for Victoria not able to shine internationally. Fantastic performance at RC
No. They should just be allowed to compete.
@@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 hard disagree with that filthy trash opinion of yours there, boy.
Lol you're cute
Сначала пусть США извинятся за использование допинга Симоной Байлз и стравливание народов , разжигание войн по всему миру ! Сирия , Ливия , Югославия , Вьетнам и тд !
@@ЛораМорган-р4г Симона Байлз никогда не употребляла допинг, она принимала лекарства от СДВГ
I see 14 VT
14.9 UB
14.4 BB
14.3 FX
=57.6
Not enough to beat Rebeca and Suni if they hit.
suni lost her yurchenko entry so i hope she can get back her lopez or get that cheng because she needs a strong vault if she doesn’t have a DTY this year.
@@gymcentric5727 we still got beef don’t hmu.
@@gymcentric5727 The Suni doubter is back. Suni lost her Yurchenko entry a year ago. For all we know, she has it but doesn’t do it because she training for the Cheng. I think she’ll have it back by worlds this year.
@@tambam6744 he also racist he dragged Chiles & Shilese yet tried to defend Grace & Riley. Yet black girl magic will always prevail
@@tambam6744 i’m only assuming she still doesn’t have her DTY back because we haven’t had an update on it. That’s not doubting her, that’s just the last thing we’ve heard about her Yurchenko.
imo she is overscored
all domestic meets inflate their scores to seem intimidating to other countries.
@@nathan10120but her overscoring is on a different level, at least on floor and beam
@@aguti7920 I agree with you I was just saying
It's a shame her form and techniques are so sloppy. If she gets to compete for non Russian judges, she will get shredded.
Однако в Токио не уничтожили ! А вот Американкам за технику ставили ниже
😂 she is literally an Olympic champion . Tell me you a a bit without telling it