AMC Spoilers! THE WOLVERINE Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- On this special 1 hour AMC Movie Talk, the crew talks about their experience of watching THE WOLVERINE.
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Can someone tell me how the same people (not just AMC hosts) hate the way the wolverine movies depicted deadpool and silver samurai, but defend the mandarin 'twist' from iron man three. Didn't know a thing about either of these three from the comics going in, but the mandarin as a joke felt the most underwhelming especially since every trailer was getting me ready for a ben kingsley battle.
"On this special 1 hour AMC Movie Talk..."
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I can't believe they barely mentioned the samurai fight with Mariko's father. The best fight in the movie.
Loved this video! Thanks guys and i think i speak for the whole fan base, we need more of these videos!
While its good to hear this movie was better than the first Wolverine movie, I think the question needs to be asked. Could it really have been worse than the first Wolverine movie? haha :D
He lost his metal claws when I saw that I was so angry but after reading a couple of comments I guess he gets them back which really made me feel better thanks guys for putting my mind at ease
it took me awhile to understand the two plots in the film. the grandfather wanting the healing powers, the dad wanting the business trying to kill his daughter to get it. but it was still a great story driven story.
LOVE these long, in-depth reviews! Hope you guys make one for The Hobbit in December ;)
Two things that were overlooked. One; The symbolism of Wolverine having to tear his heart out to heal. Two; The long term purpose of the bone claws. In the X-men movies it was shown that Wolverine could easily take out Sentinels by himself. Now he has been brought down a notch so that the Sentinels will seam like more of a believable threat for DoFP.
On 24:52 its because she heals him by blowing back on his face that is the reason why he was healed. You might of missed that part.
on the scene with viper's venom attack, I saw her apparently make a second "spit" motion that made the boils go away. they didn't just disappear.
If you see the credits scene again, can you check if Bishop is going through the security gate next to Wolverine.
That's the point I was going to make. The bubbling face was definitely not "just gone in the next edit," or was some horrible mistake in the editing. Viper absolutely spit on him again to heal him. She scared him into getting his job done right and then took the wound away so he could; so whatever Viper's powers are in the comics, she definitely could secrete a healing solution in this film. And I think you may be getting hung up on was she needed, when there's NO reason she shouldn't be there.
Wolverines Regenerative powers healed his bone claws back. He has always had bone claws.. Thats why he got Adimantium claws, because the Adamantium that covers his skeleton, covered his bone claws too. After his Metal claws were cut off, he grew back his bone claws.
You guys forgot to mention how the PG 13 rating was taken to the limit especially with that entire scene of when Wolverine takes that thing that viper put inside of him out by grabbing it with his hand and ripping through his skin. Also I think that the most epic thing they could have done when wolverine was shot by all those arrows near the end was to grab the wires from the arrows and pull all the ninjas towards him. It would have been a bit over the top but still pretty awesome.
As you guys said in the video, Viper did not need to have mutant powers, and yuriko (or whatever the other mutants name was) was really bad done, power wise. She was able to predict like 1 thing in the whole movie, and with all the other times her powers should have worked, they just ignored it and didn't mention how much she sucks at using her powers. I only recall her using her powers proper once in the beginning, and can't remember what it was, but I remember it for using the move on the plot
Man, Erin got really flustered/excited when Schnepp said Darren Aronofsky's (however you spell it) name......LOL!!! That was a pretty intense reaction for a rather trivial comment....lol......Cute....
Love the show. With the healing powers (~25:00), my understanding from the movie is that Viper had control of varying compound, in addition to resistances to toxins. So she blew acid or whatever onto 'Head Ninjas' face to threaten him, but if you notice she blew a second time onto is face, and after this he was healed. This makes me think that she blew a healing compound onto his face. So the healing came from her rather than an actual healing power. Let me know what you think!
If someone can cut adamantium, someone as well could well adamantium back, however the main problem to me is the fact that they appeared because he is not supposed to have any real bones since they were replaced by adamantium completely
I just wanted to point out that at the end credits scene there is the trask logo (the company that made the sentinels) on a tv screen and it is talking about robotics
My theory on Jean Grey is that she's gone for good. I feel that in a way she was stuck on Earth as a Ghost haunting Logan. So when Logan says he no longer needs her she sets her self free and joins the spirit world. So in a way they both freed eachother and can now be over on.
Just to let John know, the bubble face scene wasn't a mistake. Viper blew the poison on him, messed him all up... then she blew an antidote on him and the poison bubbles went away. Maybe he'll see it when he sees it again.
The scene where Viper spits on the one guy and his face was bubbling then it wasn't in the next scene was because she had spat on him again just before the scene change, denoting that she neutralized the acid with the second spit.
24:50 - I believe it wasn't a mistake. She scars him then the spit was to heal him (after all she is a doctor), although the method is painful to do so. As they are at that point still allies.
Theres gonna be an extended R rated cut with 20 minutes of extra footage, hopefully were gonna see Wolverine kick some ninja ass.
He just doesn't have the coating on his claws because he can grow back bone but he can't grow back metal. The rest of his skeleton is still covered in adamantium. Sorry if this doesn't help and its just more confusing.
lol, I agree. My biggest problem is that adamantium should not have been broken. Even with glowing red adamantium.
At the end of the movie he lost his Adamantium claws and was left with his bone claws. Did he or could he end up getting the Adamantium claws back?
Quite literally, the Atomic Bombing scene was my favorite and the most powerful moment in the movie.
I think that's why they didn't make that connection in the movie. I heard there was a rights issue since Hydra was used in Captain America.
The blunder that Schnepp pointed out with the bubble poison being there and then not wasn't a blunder she shot him once and then again as an antidote thing because Viper still needed him.
I love the subtitles with the show, funny subtitles
Mariko should have been Yuriko but because of the continuity that this x-men movie verse has already established it couldn't be done. But it was interesting how both names sound similar.
Viper spit twice the second time was the antidote kind of like when poison ivy kisses you a second time to cure you form the first kiss
Do they ever make the connection that Viper is Madame Hydra in the movie? or do they assume that this is another Viper character? I haven't seen the movie so i was just wondering because i had heard rumors that this was supposed to be Madame Hydra character or a younger version of her that would obviously crosses into the Capt. Universe of Marvel with Von strucker.
a question i have is in Days of Future Past will wolverine have his bone claws like at the end of this movie, or will the some how figure out a way to give him his adamantium claws back? what are your thoughts?
It's a comic book. The Silver Samurai armor certainly has enough adamantium to refurbish Logan's claws. In fact, didn't Yashida leech off a large quantity of adamantium by drilling into Logan's broken claws? They put it all back eventually. A one-year-since-we-visited-the-Mars-room gift from Mariko? ;-)
I must say I agree with the crew's view on the Logan-Mariko relationship, it was not handled as good as it should have been, and yes, I did read the comic on which this movie was based. In MY opinion, I think that the problem here was not the script but the actress, Tao Okamoto. Why do I think this? Well, because Jackman had GREAT chemistry with ALL of his female co-stars in every movie he ever made: X-Men movies, Swordfish, Van Helsing, Prestige, The Scoop, Kate & Leopold, Wolverine Origins, Prisoners. Maybe it is just me, but Okamoto's performance was a bit or more emotionless, like she was uncomfortable or something, I don't know whether she is a quality actress or not, because I haven't seen her anywhere else expect here. And, being a guy who has seen about 3000 movies, maybe even more, made in the last 50 years or more, I think that this analysis is, at least, partly accurate. But, like I said, it is just my opinion.
I have a HUGE question. What about Wolverine's claws?? PLEASE tell me that in days of future past somehow he gets the adamantium back!
Completely agree with the Silver Samurai stuff, I wish the Silver Samurai was just a guy in armor with a completely practical final fight. I LOVED the sword/ninja fights that were all practical, but once the giant robo-suit came in it took me out of it.
yeah I definitely got that vibe too she's probably alive. I mean you literally can't kill the pheonix. Jean has died and come back twice in the comics so its more than probable
I loved it! There was a lull in it like they said in the middle got bit dull but then got good later Yukio was awesome! I hope she is in Days of Future Past. And the end credit scene was fucking awesome!
Best End Credits Scene?! Someone may be forgetting Ferris Bueller's Day Off... :-) LOL.
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After the movie my friend and I were like, man...those were the worst ninjas ever, heca visible & making all kinds of noise running on the roof tops, there suppose to be silent & stealthy
If you think about guys Viper wasn't really a waste of a character. She's the one that made him mortal kind of, and made Wolverine week.
To me it makes sense that adamantium can cut adamantium and an adamantium bullet can penetrate Wolverine's adamantium skull in the origins movie. Just like diamond can scratch diamond. All diamonds don't have the same hardness, likewise all adamantium isn't equal either.
I liked the film. I even like the Silver Samurai suit which I felt the film was building up to. I realise why they did it but I didn't like Wolverine losing his metal claws. The middle of the film felt a bit slow but a great character piece for Wolverine. It was odd however the reason why Wolvie left Mariko, I expected her to die. Bring on Days of Future Past! (with Jean and Scott please!)
You guys must have blinked during the alley scene when Venom spit into the guy's face and his skin started bubbling. She spit into his face again after making her point and I guess she can spit a healing agent also. After the 2nd spit, they showed his face healing. And the green outfit is Venom's trademark. No more unbelievable than Black Widow's slinky spy outfit.
I get the adamantium is infused with his bones but I am assuming only his claws became bone but the rest of this skeletal structure is still adamantium.
Viper sprays that guy a second time to heal him because they were allies after all and she just wanted to prove a point.
had surgery on thursday, gotta wait two weeks to before i'm able to leave the crib. Is the Wolverine worth 3d imax?
Don't think so,in the movie Kitty will somehow send Wolverine's consciousness to the past Wolverine,so that one will have his adamantium claws, Bryan Singer confirmed that doing so will reset the timeline in some way,so it could change some events from X-men 3 and The Wolverine
She spit the venom on him once, and it caused his face to bubble. Then spit an antitoxen on it which caused it to clear up since she needed him for the film
It shown on the front cover of "Days of futures past" that Wolverine has Adamantium claws.......
I saw the first showing at 5 past midnight here in Scotland and I loved it. I did watch origins before hand though. The ONLY part of the movie I did not like was the final fight scene against "the silver samurai". Can't wait for days of future past!
He definitely gets his claws back. No doubt of that eventuality whatsoever.
This movie was better than X-men Origins, it had slow parts, the fighting scenes were good and shocking with the last one. I was so glad to see Famke Janssen again, because I just didn't like her role in X-men The Last Stand or that movie (which I think needs a remake to be more of the Phoenix saga) and I must say the extra ending scene really made this movie for me. Seeing Professor X again made me so happy and hyped for DoFP.
I felt almost like the "real" ending of The Wolverine wasn't their intended ending, honestly. It's almost as though they had the post-credit scene as their real ending.
Seen this movie 5 times already. I probably will see it a few more times before it leaves the theater.
Good to know.
Logan never said he loved her. He felt something for her and she brought him back in a sense. Logan was willing to fight for her because of this. That totally worked, but yeah the chemistry was off. Remember that Logan only spoke of love in regards to Jean. (May have spelled her name wrong)
his relationship with yukio is sisterly, but his relationship with mariko is not. mariko was also romantically involved with wolverine in the comics
The outfit viper wore is her original out fit that you see her in the comics that is why you see her in it in the movie. Just to set it straight Viper is not a mutant she is more known in her clashes with shield and Captain America. The main reason she was in this movie was because she was in the comic that the movie is based off of. So she is a critical character. The bad thing is we wont see here any Captain America movies or Shield related movies as far as I can tell.
I hear ya!
I felt their relationship was not meant to be love of his life but a healing love. Wolverine would save any abused woman and her dad slapping her and her fiancé cheating on her would set him off. great review love you guys and other than being more forgiving of the romance I agree with you guys.
at 25:00 it looked like Viper breathed an anti-venom on the dude right after so he wouldn't die
they implied Viper was torturing the guy and she blew the venom twice, once was for the plague like acid face, the next healed him.
they gotta have to some how bring back the adimantium claws in the DOFP, i don't like the bone claws at all. any thought about that guys???
The advance movie poster shows him with adamantium claws. I was worried about that too.
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2 years later and still no Adamantium, I'm guessing not, however he could be given new claws, by Mariko or Magneto perhaps
I think the relationship worked, if you look at is as a holiday romance. Didn't have the deep emotional passion, but the loving protective instincts were apparent imo. It was more believable that Anakin/Padme and even MoS Lois/Clark. And yea, WTF happened with the ninja's. Cutting that scene is unforgivable. Loved the movie though. Looking forward to the directors cut.
I loved The Wolverine Film! The Best X-Men movie in my personal opinion! It's true to the comic books for the first two thirds of the movie. I also liked Logan! The Wolverine is my favorite.
Hello and salutations,can you answer my question? Well I was thinking that since he had it with her ;) I actually thought that Daken (Wolverines son) would be born at the end and the mom would die like in the comics. Do you think that would've happened? And why didn't it?
I agree. Magneto's going to replate Wolverine's claws with adamantium.
The Viper heals the acid when she blows on him again right before the next cut.
I just didn't like how they gave yukio an ability when the actual character doesn't, but like john said, it was just a minor change. And then in the case of the silver samurai being an adamantium suit of armor instead of the dude being a mutant was just blagh for me. In the end though I thought the movie was just Awesome. And the ENDING!! Gaaaaah!!! Can't wait man.
did you guys notice the one scene where Viper took her glove off 3 times?
You guys didn't really talk about the fight scene with Mariko's dad. I though that was awesome..
(Stabs wolverine in the chest) " What kind of monster are you?!?"
"I'm the wolverine" claws through throat!
I liked the Wolverine. It was a good movie. Not great but quite good and it delivered what I expected and far better than Origins. Don't view it in 3D since it really adds nothing to it. Zip. I think Jackman looks better as Wolverine the older he gets so I think he can keep doing this role for many years to come. It was a smaller scale movie which was fine for me. I liked it quite a bit.
I really want cyclops to come back in DOFP. If Professor X and Jean can come back, then you have to bring him back. At least I would want him to come back
At 24:51
I think when point about the ninja head suddenly healing from poison was because Viper blown something at him the second time then it was the shot of healing.... so maybe she cured him and it wasn't a mistake
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I don't like the bone claws either but how will they fix it?
Who else thought this made X-Men 3 actually look better? I still don't like 3 that much, but this film I think revived what X3 put dampers on.
The Wolverine was awesome, 8/10 is a reasonable score. I think the movie was on par with Man of Steel easily, and possibly better though that may be my bias for x-men coming through. I agree completely that the viper lady did not even need to be included in the film, it felt forced, but aside from her I did not mind the ending of the film with the silver samurai even though it didn't match the comics. I loved wolverines arnold moment.
the chemistry is there... ppl just focused on the action... he did left her because evrry woman he love died... thats the best he can do..
he only lost the adamantium in his claws. his entire arm and body is still covered in the metal
Iron Silver Samurai
I really liked Svetlana Rhodchenkova as Viper, especially considering she apparently spoke very little English coming in. her suit wasn't anything special, but she herself is so sexy that to me it worked anyway. Another highlight is Yukio. I thought she brought extra emotional depth to the movie, and offset Sanada Shingen's douchiness.
Wait there was a scene after the credits?
Some of these comments are not fair at all, others are valid. I did feel cheated out of a big Wolverine Vs Ninja Clan Battle! I however clearly saw Viper heal the Bow Guy (Cant remeber his name) right after she poisoned him. She has that ability ;she herself carries antibodies that would nullify any poison. Also she did heal from the arrow hit, but did you not notice how much effort she had to put into that? The film is not perfect, but it is way better than you guys are giving it credit for.
I think Viper could infect them with her poison and then draw it back out of them and that's why they appeared to heal.
Am i the only one who thought it was really weird that his adamantium claws got cut off, essentially leaving him with his original bone claws for the rest of his life? Or does this happen in the comics?
I was disappointed that Harada was not the Silver Samurai. I thought they missed the opportunity to real use the Black Clan ( in the comics it The Hand ) Wolverine comics are full of Ninja fights. The love interest with Mariko could have worked better if Wolverine was being trained as a Samurai by Yoshida. Wolverine having deep Samurai training is abig part of his character in the comics.
I thought you all made excellent points on Wolverine. I saw the film yesterday but i didn't care for it very much. It was not up to my standards and some scenes just took me out of the story.
He was talking about the very end, he still has them in the present.
Good talk.
17:00 character development, huge screen time was used to sell it and saving them money for special effects heavy finality, unfortunately i did not enjoy either. the direction,screenplay and acting didnt gel together. Although performance by Rila Fukushima -Yukio and Hiroyuki Sanada -Shingen and the whole first act with bombing of japan sequence was incredible.
the thing that bothered me was how he gets shot and everything throughout the movie after Vipress like makes him vulnerable....when he brought out his claws..there was never any scars or blood yet when he got shot there were wounds, blood and he felt pain yet when the claws ripped through his skin..he was ok? and when he got mad at the arranged husband he was mad at him getting with the two girls..yet he actually "got" with Mariko..lol these are small things that bothered me