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@@machdude3366 Yes, that's the one I have seen and it's an amazing movie, don't get me wrong. But I think Orlando Bloom for that character fell short. And supposedly the historical figure was actually more close to Liam Nesson in age and demeanor.
@@Yordlehammer How can it be historically accurate if even this scene is fabricated for the movie? Hector doesn`t kill Menelaus, Menelaus is one of the only ones that survive and goes back home with Helen. The movie is really different from the poems
Brad might’ve been the star of the movie and had the body and looks but Eric is the real talent of the film. His acting as Hector is just magnificent. I don’t care what critics say, this is a great film. One of my favorites.
Hector was a better man in all aspects compared to Achilles. When Hector fought Patroclus and wounded him he knew there was nothing they could do to save him and he gave him a respectful and clean death. Achilles was on the other hand took revenge for the wrong reason on Hector and was everything but respectful. Hector is the true hero in this movie.
@@ppdan Hector knew he was no match for Achilles one on one (even though his father and the other Trojans thought he was), but that didn't matter, he was always going to face him - because that's what honour required. You can see in the way he bid farewell to everyone before he went to face Achilles that he knew he wasn't coming back - one of my favourite characters
The fact that Menelaus still addressed Hector as "Prince" goes to show he is a true warrior and respects Hector as a warrior. That's game recognizing game.
In the account of Dares, the Phrygian, Menalaus, King of Sparta was described as "..of moderate stature, auburn-haired, and very handsome. He had a pleasing personality." A very fierce warrior. Like Achilles and Odysseus, he struck down so many men, there were oceans of blood at his feet. Yet, an extremely kind and wise ruler. Thought to be the fairer beside his brother, Agamemnon. He was blessed by the Gods.
@@wrestlingbear1188 Yep... honestly, Helen wasn't even worth this war, Menaleus deserved better. Still, it was about the Oath and honor that came beforehand that led to the war when she was taken, admittedly.
Hector is the real hero, in a movie i have ever seen.. Real brother, real son, real husband, real fighter, real ruler..before his death, his father is saying...no any father had a son better than you...
This movie actually made me hate Hector, and he's supposed to be a sympathetic character. He sees his brother running upstairs to Bone Menelaus's missus. Does nothing. He stupidly gets surrounded by Greeks, and Achilles lets him go. He then completely dog shots Menelaus, honestly just as bad an act as Paris stealing his wife. He then beats Ajax with another dog shot, this time in a fair fight, but not exactly displaying him as an elite fighter. Then Achilles reks him. " It's just such a sketchy list of contributions to the movie.
@@indiankid8601 I don't see any reason to bring Indians into this. I'm not a fan of ram but you throwing about such statements without any context is wrong and shows a sense of condescension towards Indians.
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After this embarrassing loss, Paris started training so hard and became one of the most skilled fighter in middle-earth, and helped to destroy the ring, once and for all.
@@Makeyourselfbig I think in the myth Paris got help from some goddess and basically drugged and kidnapped her or something. She didn't even want to betray her husband. Not too sure on this tho.
@@RocketMonke69420 It's true that Aphrodite helped Paris to get Helen in order to win a bet, though I'm not sure about the drugging and kidnapping part.
@@RocketMonke69420 Since this movie doesn't have any Gods in it that doesn't make a difference. In this movie she went with him willingly. If she had been drugged and kidnapped the story wouldn't have worked since it would have turned the Greeks into the good guys.
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Orlando Bloom played his role perfectly in this scene I mean you can sense how nervous he was going into this duel with Menelaus. I mean he never fought anyone let alone killed anyone before. Sure he’s had practices with the sword from what his brother thought him. But the only way you learn and gain experience is from real battles and duels which he had none.
Telegraphing (or possibly semaphore-ing) his blows, trying to use strong obvious blows against a man who, while older and possibly slower, was stronger and more experienced. Brilliant performance as someone who has trained a lot but doesn't truly grasp the difference between winning and losing. Like i am when playing videogames. "This didn't work? I was sure it would. How about if i did the same thing but harder?"
@@HinrikS Yup. A few practices here and there with your brother is not going to prepare you to fight the King of the Spartans. He was basically King Leonidas from 300 but born several hundred years earlier.
@@clarkw4028 Easier said than done. A Warrior King would likely see that tactic. I mean, it was his only shot but I'd not have bet on him pulling it off.
Dont hate too hard. In the book they fought for hours and it was Aphrodite who ended up interrupting the duel when Paris finally tired out. He didnt run away. Menelaus claimed victory and Troy was considering handling Helen but one of the gods tempted a trojan archer to seek glory by killing Menelaus. He only hit him in the leg which resumed the war.
If Paris would've listened and kept his distance like Hector told him to, he could've won. But no, he kept foolishly engaging Menelaus and tiring himself out. The fact he even lasted as long as he did was proof of that, plus how cocky Menelaus was being, he just had to wait him out for that perfect moment to strike.
Menelaus was a real warrior Paris a fuck boy even if he did what Hector told he would lose the best thing he could do is not fighting cuase it was pointless anyways
Which makes it all the more puzzling he tried to kill Paris with Hector standing right there. You get the impression from earlier in the movie he knew Hector well enough to where he should have known he would not simply stand there and watch his brother be killed in spite of his brother's obvious flaws. Obviously his hatred and anger towards Paris clouded his judgment and it was his fatal mistake.
@@joshlight6892 he probably felt he was treated so unfairly and was consumed with such anger, but still remembered that Hector would still remain honourable. Clearly he got carried too far.
@@indiankid8601 he destroyed nothing but of course u will say so A channel like his supportes by Christians of course u will not say "he is wrong" Or something because he is supporting the blind faith ur also believing in wich is Christianity you Christians literally clear out Pope's from having children but u dont clear God from having Children and u speak about wich religion is true and wrong?Come on....
@@ΚωνσταντινοςΑυγουστη-θ2τ Today's paradigm is completely different than even 50 years ago let alone thousands of years ago. And athletes aren't killing each other. You would've made a better attempt by comparing to soldiers.
In this scene, I'm rooting for Menalaus. He may be a brute, but he wanted peace with Troy. He didn't' steal anyone's wife and he didn't challenge anyone to a one-on-one duel. So yeah, screw Paris.
In case anyone is wondering, in the poem Aphrodite rescues Paris right before he is killed, and Menelaus, after being stranded in Egypt for a time, returned back home to Sparta, where he and Helen were later visited by Telemachus in search of his father (Odysseus).
Yes - Love the movie but I really do wish they'd stuck to the tale as told my Homer. I hate this distortion of original, historic material because it's important - it's the way so many people get their first or only glimpse of our history and classics.
In Homer's epic Menelaus is a hero and Paris a sniveling coward. Helen realized her mistake and left the wimp and returned to Sparta with a warrior king.
The moment where Peter O’ Toole is wanting his very terrified son to get up and risk his life for glory and tradition and honor…really hammered home my Ancient Greece professor’s lecture on how Hero Worship and the glorification/deification of warriors was the ultimate fall of BOTH Troy and Mycenaea. Even though Achilles’ side (the Mycenaeans) won the war, they returned to a land they no longer recognized because over a decade had passed and people grew up/moved on without them. They took all the warlords and heroes and left behind the women and children to forge a new society. Which, incidentally, is how we got the Philistines/Sea Peoples/Fomorians of international legends!
No father wants his son to be a coward. Courage is recognized by all societies as a moral virtue worthy of glorification. There's no society that glorifies cowardice. It's rightfully seen as a disgusting character flaw.
@@justaguy328 Coward for what? why should he fight a fight with weapon the other is expert in while he is not ? Courage this is not, this is just playing the game of others. The one is seasoned old super warrior is he full of courage while attacking a teenager/ young man because he cant handle the fact that the boy showed his wife real passion.
Imagine an honorable father raising the City of Troy to be a hot spot for commerce and a city of respect with a prince as protector of the city who everyone respected to such a great degree. And then one little sht who was to selfish to let one woman go cause both of the cities greatest men to die and the city itself burned to the ground. They tried to make Paris seem like the honorable one but gosh is he a real piece of trash.
@@sir_humpy I believe that even if they cherished Aeneas as a character and their founder, they would probably still hate Pares, since he still took down Troy with his careless actions.
You understand that this war was not waged for helen right? It's the pretext on the myth. Control of the Dardaneles was (as is today) one of the most important in the world.
After Hector's death in this movie, the movie ended. From my point of view, Eric Bana added charm, presence and charisma, and by the end of his role, the movie lost a lot of excitement and passion and there was something missing. He played his role very brilliantly as a man and a noble knight, an exemplary prince
Listen to how manly it sounds when Menalaus pulls his sword out of its sheath and then listen to how girly the sound is when Paris pulls out his. They even made his sword sound girly. 😂
I remember watching this movie in a college auditorium a few weeks after almost literally everybody in it had finished reading the Illiad. There were audible gasps and "wtfs" at this.
@@CT-nb5lm it's a movie. There so much you can do in a 2 or 3 hour movie. Just look at The Lord of the Rings movies the films are very long, and Jackson took a lot of things out from the books. That's why movie adaptations of books are so much different from the source material. Just take as it is. And in the Iliad even the Gods get involved in the war.
In spite of the "Hollywood" changes, this movie gets a lot of the Iliad right. Achilles' arrogance balanced by his anguish, Agamemnon's ego, the sacking of Troy, the private meeting between Priam and Achilles, etc. Most of all, Homer does make Hector the most admirable of the heroes, even ending the epic with a reference to him: "Thus was the funeral of Hector, breaker of horses."
Can you imagine what a trash fire it would have been to just film the Iliad without alterations. No beginning or end, constant divine interventions, Achilles chases Hector three laps around Troy..
Its so weird watching originally i was like, fuck menelaus, dude didnt care about his wife. Meanwhile two people wer ein love and sure that has some romantic merit but, this is like, real life. Trojan royalty really felt they could do whatever they wanted. Prince took a married queen after a truce. Challenged to honorable combat, and then broke the rules of engagement.
@@phantasosxgames8488 Achilles: Go home, prince. Drink some wine, make love to your wife. Tomorrow, we'll have our war. Hector: You speak of war as if it's a game. But how many wives wait at Troy's gates for husbands they'll never see again? Achilles: Perhaps your brother can comfort them. I hear he's good at charming other men's wives. 💀
This movie is stupid in the book Menelaus is a handsome and a great king. Helen fall in love with Paris because of the stupid god reward to Paris that the most beautiful woman in the world will fall for him
shadow rain not only that , that reward was a bribe from the goddess. Paris was already married at the time , if he had chosen Athena or Hera , he would had a far better boon than be just a horny cheater
You've gotta hand it to Orlando, he knows how to act when it comes to sword play whether is role is to win the sword fight in pirates or lose it as seen here.
This would be a lot more easier fight if Paris trained more. If you wanna charm other men's wives, make sure you're just as skilled as Hector or even Achilles.. Otherwise your head will be rolling down the battle sands in case your brother Hector wasn't there lol
Once you reach a certain level in fighitng/battle experience you realise the importance of self-control which makes charming other man's wives less atractive.
@@bogus3962 True but am sure there are plenty of men in those times who are SIMP driven just to achieve this less attractive goals. So they train harder so they can get laid and pass on their seeds or legacy.
@@bogus3962 This is correct. As a skilled fighter you are often aware of how good you are. However, you are also aware that in every fight there is a small percent chance that your opponent lands a lucky blow. Pick enough fights with lethal weapons and you will end up hurt. It's just not worth it, unless you really have to.
The film had a big problem for me: I only cared about one of the characters - Hector. Once he was killed by Achilles, the film kinda collapsed. But until then, there was a lot to enjoy!
In the Homeric traditions, Menelaus treated Helen as well as could be expected for a king in ancient Greek times. If anything, Menelaus was portrayed as one of the few unequivocally decent heroes on the Greek side, despite being overshadowed by others like Ajax Telemon and Diomedes, contrasting with his terrible older brother, Agamemnon, whose life typified the cursed lineage of the House of Atreus. It's just that Helen was bewitched by Aphrodite to fall in love with Paris. Unfortunately, Menelaus often gets villainized in modern interpretations because Helen has absolutely 0 agency as a character in the original myth, being sent for political marriage to Menelaus and then being bewitched by Aphrodite and everything. So in order to give Helen self-agency and present her as a modern, independent women who follows love, people tend to do Menelaus dirty so as to justify Helen's elopement
@@7503funkymonkey Says something about Menelaus and Helen, that firstly, he didn't kill her on the spot when they met after the fighting was over, and second, she chose to go back to Sparta with him and make a reasonably civil relationship.
@@NightKingMarhoom yep , he was. In the movie , it was a surprise attack when Achilles was distracted doing something else. In the myth , Paris attacked when Achilles was occupied in the battlefield and only achieved that shot by the aid of Apollo. Paris started a war , breaking an alliance between Sparta and Troy , out of lust , then his kingdom had to suffer 10 years of siege because he was a coward that completely hides under his brother's wing.
Technically Paris wasn't really a coward, stupid yes but not coward, he's just more trained with bows and never had a single experience on real combat.
As epic & dramatic as this fight is in the movie: In the original myth, Menelaus actually survives the entire war (he is one of the strongest & bravest heroes), while Paris gets killed in battle (he doesn't get killed by Menelaus though, but by another Greek hero). After the sack of Troy, Menelaus reconnects with Helen & takes her home to Sparta. I don't really know why they changed this storyline in the movie. It's like the scriptwriters wanted to say: See, it's ok to kidnap someone else's woman, get your entire family (who are nice & decent ppl) killed, have your city destroyed, burned down, looted + thousands of innocent ppl killed or enslaved, and still get to live the rest of your life with that bitch woman. But yeah, whatever.
The war did happen, there are findings and remains of walls of Troy exactly as described by Homer. They also found ancient wrecks near by with Greek swords, narrows etc. It was a great war but the price was the management and trading in the Aegean sea.
Hector is the real hero of the Trojan war. The greeks at this time were little more than cutthroats who saw an opportunity to use Hellen as an excuse to take Troy's wealth. The Trojan War is a tragedy because evil prevailed.
@@RocketMonke69420 Let's just say that the little brother did a huge mistake that the older brother in was not involved so the little brother has to face the mess by himself.
Its so sad that Hollywood is not making such wonderful periodic films anymore...i am bored of watching the Marvel and DC movies. I hate superhero movies right now.
You think of his sword and your sword and NOTHING ELSE! Spoken like a true leader with experience in battle! Troy’s warrior was Hector. Sparta’s warrior was Achilles even though his allegiance wasn’t necessarily to Sparta because he fought with his own army.
P:"Do yo love me brother? Will you protect me from enemies?" H: "Last time you asked me that you had stolen father's horse. What have you done this time?"
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i hate that facking Paris (Orlando Bloom)from this movie, so coward , facking dck head, just girl and then run like shit
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They just assigned the wrong jobclass to Pares.
Had he become archer since the very beginning, you will see Legolas sniping the entire Trojan army.
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Orlando Bloom actually plays cowardice brilliantly
He's perfect for a role like that. That's why I never bought him in Kingdom of Heaven.
He is an amazing actor... look at Legolas, brave and strong
@@magtovi Watch the Director's cut. It doesn't improve his performance that much, but it takes the brunt of the film off of him.
@@machdude3366 Yes, that's the one I have seen and it's an amazing movie, don't get me wrong. But I think Orlando Bloom for that character fell short. And supposedly the historical figure was actually more close to Liam Nesson in age and demeanor.
True.
Hector: "Make him swing and miss. He'll tire."
Paris: "Swing and miss. I'll tire. Got it."
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@@toxicdragon323 ehhhh, it sounds like you're trying to take credit for the goods.
@@jesse_cole Get over it. We all know this comment has been used before by someone else long ago. Get a lawyer and sue if it bothers you that much.
@@toxicdragon323 Get a tissue and cry about it if having someone call you out triggers you this badly.
Troy could be 10 hours long and no one would care. It's such a classic and wonderful movie.
The aesthetic is wonderful. Shame we haven’t seen large historical epic films made like this since.
@@benjaminjeffery6873 The Northman wasn't that bad!
The producers would.
Despite the stuff that happened when they entered Troy. Yes it's historical accurate but still disturbing
@@Yordlehammer How can it be historically accurate if even this scene is fabricated for the movie? Hector doesn`t kill Menelaus, Menelaus is one of the only ones that survive and goes back home with Helen. The movie is really different from the poems
Brad might’ve been the star of the movie and had the body and looks but Eric is the real talent of the film. His acting as Hector is just magnificent. I don’t care what critics say, this is a great film. One of my favorites.
critics only like shitty films or politically woke shit.
Who is eric?
Nah.
Hector was a better man in all aspects compared to Achilles. When Hector fought Patroclus and wounded him he knew there was nothing they could do to save him and he gave him a respectful and clean death. Achilles was on the other hand took revenge for the wrong reason on Hector and was everything but respectful.
Hector is the true hero in this movie.
@@ppdan Hector knew he was no match for Achilles one on one (even though his father and the other Trojans thought he was), but that didn't matter, he was always going to face him - because that's what honour required.
You can see in the way he bid farewell to everyone before he went to face Achilles that he knew he wasn't coming back - one of my favourite characters
The fact that Menelaus still addressed Hector as "Prince" goes to show he is a true warrior and respects Hector as a warrior. That's game recognizing game.
You're not Europeans, what you do here???
Après Johnny deep Même dans Troie HAMBER auras foutu la merde ! 🤣🤣
@@jan4802 TROJANS ARE NOT European just you now they are ASIA
@@islammehmeov2334 They lived in Asia but was Europeans, Greecs.
@@jan4802 TROJANS WERE NOT GEY greek
"Is this what you left me for?" I mean... you can't deny that the dude has a point.
In the account of Dares, the Phrygian, Menalaus, King of Sparta was described as "..of moderate stature, auburn-haired, and very handsome. He had a pleasing personality." A very fierce warrior. Like Achilles and Odysseus, he struck down so many men, there were oceans of blood at his feet. Yet, an extremely kind and wise ruler. Thought to be the fairer beside his brother, Agamemnon. He was blessed by the Gods.
"you left me for this girly boy!"
Not if the " dude she left you for" in question is Orlando "Prettyboi" Bloom🤣🤣🤣
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Yep... honestly, Helen wasn't even worth this war, Menaleus deserved better. Still, it was about the Oath and honor that came beforehand that led to the war when she was taken, admittedly.
Every soldier that came back home to his cheating wife
Agamemnon laugh will always be epic.
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Great movie🔥
@@spiritonfire7941 grow a pair kid
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Hector is the real hero, in a movie i have ever seen.. Real brother, real son, real husband, real fighter, real ruler..before his death, his father is saying...no any father had a son better than you...
Yess
Is this a manly act ?
This movie actually made me hate Hector, and he's supposed to be a sympathetic character.
He sees his brother running upstairs to Bone Menelaus's missus. Does nothing.
He stupidly gets surrounded by Greeks, and Achilles lets him go.
He then completely dog shots Menelaus, honestly just as bad an act as Paris stealing his wife.
He then beats Ajax with another dog shot, this time in a fair fight, but not exactly displaying him as an elite fighter.
Then Achilles reks him. "
It's just such a sketchy list of contributions to the movie.
@@indiankid8601 I don't see any reason to bring Indians into this. I'm not a fan of ram but you throwing about such statements without any context is wrong and shows a sense of condescension towards Indians.
@@catalogueboys2538 Ok *hindus
2:09 The man, the meme, the legend.
She has a face that launched a thousand ships and the charisma that wouldn’t float a dingy
Ain’t that almost always the way😂
Very witty!
Every attractive woman ever.
Is she pretty?
@@hafezmousavi9043 Not worth all this trouble, that's for sure.
"See the crows, they never tasted prince before" a real "bad ass" comment from Menelaus
What was even more funny.. he actually looked at the Crows😅
😌❤️
What's worse
I think the crows tasted him instead
Great movie🔥
@@georginovalsan4715 yeaahh.... On Iliad he's now dead on that war, but who knows, maybe some story on Iliad was written for achaean Greek propaganda
Those emotional lines "He's my brother" outstanding
He’s my sister 😂
thats cheating. no?
For those who don't know Menelaus was one of the only kings that came back to his home, survived and lived peacefully .
Thanks
And he took Helen
Good guy Menelaus
Surprisingly yeah.
In the play Helen from Euripides, he also had to make a quick stop in Egypt to save the true Helen who was waiting for him there.
Never send an archer into a sword fight. 😆
Achilles: Well about that...
@@MrRushSkies The manner in which Paris slew Achilles, was cowardly in my opinion.
But he did avenge Hector's death.
Is this a Legolas joke?
Well Paris wasn’t really an archer before this duel (at least how the movie portrays it), but he does become a proficient archer afterwards.
Its like having that one teammate that is their for "emotional support"🤣🤣🤣
This film has aged like the finest of wines. In decades it will still stand out
Hector: “make him swing and miss, he’ll tire”
Paris: “Swing, miss, tire… Got it”
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A real brother will never allow his own brother to fall, it doesn't matter how big the problem is. He will be with him in the midst of many trials of life..
Amazing 🎥 movie.
Thanks for uploading.
After this embarrassing loss, Paris started training so hard and became one of the most skilled fighter in middle-earth, and helped to destroy the ring, once and for all.
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"Is THIS what you left me for???" Realest burn of the whole movie Paris was a woman.
Maybe she just wasn't interested in being married to a shaved gorilla.
@@Makeyourselfbig Lmao 😅🤣😅 Exactamundo, girls will always go for the pretty boys.
@@Makeyourselfbig I think in the myth Paris got help from some goddess and basically drugged and kidnapped her or something. She didn't even want to betray her husband. Not too sure on this tho.
@@RocketMonke69420 It's true that Aphrodite helped Paris to get Helen in order to win a bet, though I'm not sure about the drugging and kidnapping part.
@@RocketMonke69420 Since this movie doesn't have any Gods in it that doesn't make a difference. In this movie she went with him willingly. If she had been drugged and kidnapped the story wouldn't have worked since it would have turned the Greeks into the good guys.
"this is not worthy of royalty" hectors face 3:44 "you right tho"
Adana nakliyat öz esin evden eve taşıma Taşımayı dert etmeyin, evini taşımasını sitres yapanlar .nasıl taşınırım diye göç getirenler .işinden dolayı evini taşımayı zor görenler .
Özesin evden eve taşıma bir telefon kadar yakınınızda.
Siz zamanızı güzel gecirin .taşımayı bize bırakın .Eşyanızı A dan Z ye.ambalajlar,
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They don’t make em like this anymore for duck sake. Troy, Gladiator, LOTR, Kingdom of Heaven, Alexander, 300 to name a few
2:09 priceless reaction 😂😂😂
Best part
That's me looking at my checking account right before I go into the fetal position in a corner crying.
I wish I had the ability to weez like that when I laughed.
It's gotta be one of the most insulting ways to laugh at somebody.
@@We_Are_Borg_478 If you're a smoker then you'll be able to laugh like that eventually
great movie🔥
Orlando Bloom played his role perfectly in this scene I mean you can sense how nervous he was going into this duel with Menelaus. I mean he never fought anyone let alone killed anyone before. Sure he’s had practices with the sword from what his brother thought him. But the only way you learn and gain experience is from real battles and duels which he had none.
Telegraphing (or possibly semaphore-ing) his blows, trying to use strong obvious blows against a man who, while older and possibly slower, was stronger and more experienced. Brilliant performance as someone who has trained a lot but doesn't truly grasp the difference between winning and losing. Like i am when playing videogames. "This didn't work? I was sure it would. How about if i did the same thing but harder?"
@@HinrikS Yup. A few practices here and there with your brother is not going to prepare you to fight the King of the Spartans. He was basically King Leonidas from 300 but born several hundred years earlier.
TAUGHT him...For fucks sake.!!!!!
@@Elthenar and several 100 pounds heavier 😆 That’s why Hector told him make him swing and miss he’ll tire.
@@clarkw4028 Easier said than done. A Warrior King would likely see that tactic. I mean, it was his only shot but I'd not have bet on him pulling it off.
The most touching, brilliant moment is the statement *"He is my brother!"*
"Is this what you left me for!"
One of the most coward acts I've seen in movies, I still hate Paris for this.
It’s “Pares” not Paris ..not London … not Zurich ..
@@VaGdude It says Paris in the title
Dont hate too hard. In the book they fought for hours and it was Aphrodite who ended up interrupting the duel when Paris finally tired out. He didnt run away. Menelaus claimed victory and Troy was considering handling Helen but one of the gods tempted a trojan archer to seek glory by killing Menelaus. He only hit him in the leg which resumed the war.
Pares kinakain Yun hahahaa
@@VaGdude pares kinakain Yun UI may sabaw hahaha
If Paris would've listened and kept his distance like Hector told him to, he could've won. But no, he kept foolishly engaging Menelaus and tiring himself out. The fact he even lasted as long as he did was proof of that, plus how cocky Menelaus was being, he just had to wait him out for that perfect moment to strike.
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In the training I would shoot 10/10 free throws, but come game time...
Menelaus was a real warrior Paris a fuck boy even if he did what Hector told he would lose the best thing he could do is not fighting cuase it was pointless anyways
PARIS WAS SCARED AF.NO TACTIC COULD HAVE MADE HIM WIN.
Great movie🔥🔥
This was a fantastic film, this, Gladiator and 300. All 10/10 for me
300 the whole movie was made in a tiny studio so it's a no for me. But Troy and Gladiator are both epic.
Replace 300 with brave heart
Brave heart
I remember watching Troy in the cinema and being captivated by Brad Pitt and eric banas fight scene! Amazing movie!
Really an epic fight! One of the best in cinema ever imo.
He would win the fight if he going green.
best fight ever in a epic movie
I just love the fact Menalaus Still addresses Hector as Prince. Out of respect
Yes honor...beautiful isn't it?
Better respect when Hector (the best man in the whole movie) sticks the fat pig...
Which makes it all the more puzzling he tried to kill Paris with Hector standing right there. You get the impression from earlier in the movie he knew Hector well enough to where he should have known he would not simply stand there and watch his brother be killed in spite of his brother's obvious flaws. Obviously his hatred and anger towards Paris clouded his judgment and it was his fatal mistake.
@@joshlight6892 he probably felt he was treated so unfairly and was consumed with such anger, but still remembered that Hector would still remain honourable. Clearly he got carried too far.
@Panos Kamp , Hector warned him tho. That "he's my brother" statement was ominous.
One thing I learned from Hector is that never leave things at the mercy of God. If the king listened to Hector, the Kingdom would never perish.
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He's good with bows and killing orcs
Not with sword and shield
That was Aragorn's thing!😅
He’s good at riding shield, not hold them 🤣
And still she upgraded to the Crossbow guy XD
Did this come out before or after lord of the rings? If it was before then he wasn’t even crazy with the bow just yet.
@@AdeptKing 1 Year after the third movie.
He still has respect for Hector when he called him "prince" .... but this scene, this film, will always be amazing! =D
Good timing
Yeah thats because he considers Hector an equal, and considers Paris a little piece of sh*y.
Props to Hector for still loving his brother. After everything he has done Hector won't turn his back on him
Paris was a coward.
There's no honor in being a coward.
And there is less honor on defending one.
@@huarachudo47 Are you dumb? There is something called brotherly love. Requires to have balls.
What else to expect?
A boy vs The King of Sparta.
Real talk
You mean boi vs the ghost of sparta
More like a dumb simp vs an experience fighter.
too bad weight division was not really a thing in wars.
More like a girl in a boy’s body vs the The King of Sparta.
Diane Kruger's face is flawless! I fell in love with her beauty when i first saw this in 2004.
Hector is a responsible son, brother, husbend, price and warrior.
BETTER ADVICE TO PARIS: "Fake high, then go for the ankle."
haha! david wood
My favorite apologist and Islam slayer.
Hail destroyer of islam and dajjal Muhammad. The death and end of Satan followers
What are you doing here lol!
@@indiankid8601 he destroyed nothing but of course u will say so A channel like his supportes by Christians of course u will not say "he is wrong" Or something because he is supporting the blind faith ur also believing in wich is Christianity you Christians literally clear out Pope's from having children but u dont clear God from having Children and u speak about wich religion is true and wrong?Come on....
"You think of your sword and his sword. And nothing else."
That's some true greek wisdom
yes, it kinda allows you to tap into how they thought back in the day, which is very different than being a human today.
@@forexdissector9565 i'm just saying they're gay af
@@forexdissector9565 Today's athletes think the same way...
@@ΚωνσταντινοςΑυγουστη-θ2τ Today's paradigm is completely different than even 50 years ago let alone thousands of years ago. And athletes aren't killing each other. You would've made a better attempt by comparing to soldiers.
@@forexdissector9565 I used athletes because war at ancient times was considered as a sport for humans
Reminds me of a time my oldest brother saved me from an older bully bastard. I tried to fight but couldn't deal with the guy's strength 😂
And then your brother stood up for you, roght?
In this scene, I'm rooting for Menalaus. He may be a brute, but he wanted peace with Troy. He didn't' steal anyone's wife and he didn't challenge anyone to a one-on-one duel. So yeah, screw Paris.
Menelaus does seem to have pretty dang good cardio for someone of his age and size.
I would expect nothing less from a Spartan king.
Menelaus was a battle hardened warrior-King when Sparta was still in it's prime. Of course he'd be a damn great fighter.
Maybe Menelaus was 30... and Paris 20. They rarely lived more than 40 years :D
@@andrewvincent7299 Sparta in its prime in 1500bc? still a Mycenean village..
@@stefano7525 It is a myth, people before us lived longer. Especially the rich.
In case anyone is wondering, in the poem Aphrodite rescues Paris right before he is killed, and Menelaus, after being stranded in Egypt for a time, returned back home to Sparta, where he and Helen were later visited by Telemachus in search of his father (Odysseus).
Yes - Love the movie but I really do wish they'd stuck to the tale as told my Homer. I hate this distortion of original, historic material because it's important - it's the way so many people get their first or only glimpse of our history and classics.
In Homer's epic Menelaus is a hero and Paris a sniveling coward. Helen realized her mistake and left the wimp and returned to Sparta with a warrior king.
Eric Bana was so badass in this movie as Hector
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Menelaus could have ended the fight at 2:13 but he chose to play around with Paris instead. Menelaus was enjoying himself.
He had every right.....
Well its a movie so
I mean, I would do the same to both Paris and wife, considering they basically spit on my face lol
The moment where Peter O’ Toole is wanting his very terrified son to get up and risk his life for glory and tradition and honor…really hammered home my Ancient Greece professor’s lecture on how Hero Worship and the glorification/deification of warriors was the ultimate fall of BOTH Troy and Mycenaea. Even though Achilles’ side (the Mycenaeans) won the war, they returned to a land they no longer recognized because over a decade had passed and people grew up/moved on without them. They took all the warlords and heroes and left behind the women and children to forge a new society. Which, incidentally, is how we got the Philistines/Sea Peoples/Fomorians of international legends!
No father wants his son to be a coward. Courage is recognized by all societies as a moral virtue worthy of glorification. There's no society that glorifies cowardice. It's rightfully seen as a disgusting character flaw.
Sounds like your professor is a little bitch.
I think the fall of Troy, at least in the movie, was due to a prince who couldn’t keep it in his pants rather than a glorification of warriors.
@@justaguy328 Coward for what? why should he fight a fight with weapon the other is expert in while he is not ? Courage this is not, this is just playing the game of others. The one is seasoned old super warrior is he full of courage while attacking a teenager/ young man because he cant handle the fact that the boy showed his wife real passion.
I dunno where you studied, but im a archaeologist here and this is just nonsense 😂
Imagine an honorable father raising the City of Troy to be a hot spot for commerce and a city of respect with a prince as protector of the city who everyone respected to such a great degree. And then one little sht who was to selfish to let one woman go cause both of the cities greatest men to die and the city itself burned to the ground. They tried to make Paris seem like the honorable one but gosh is he a real piece of trash.
I bet the Romans didn't think it that way.
@@sir_humpy wtf have the romans to do with his
@@vassowned7768, no Paris = no Aeneas.
@@sir_humpy I believe that even if they cherished Aeneas as a character and their founder, they would probably still hate Pares, since he still took down Troy with his careless actions.
You understand that this war was not waged for helen right? It's the pretext on the myth. Control of the Dardaneles was (as is today) one of the most important in the world.
Agamemnon's laugh still makes me laugh to this day🤣🤣
After Hector's death in this movie, the movie ended. From my point of view, Eric Bana added charm, presence and charisma, and by the end of his role, the movie lost a lot of excitement and passion and there was something missing. He played his role very brilliantly as a man and a noble knight, an exemplary prince
Yeah , Brad is not a show keeper. He is just booooring af.
But their scene (Brad and Peter O'Toole) on hector's body's funerals is marvelous!
The movie ended for me after hector died
Wow..that thumbnail. So beautiful. I gotta say most beautiful face I have ever seen.
You haven't seen that many faces in your life then...
@@XBeVo503X She really is gorgeous, and whoever wrote this comment is probably into that style of beauty so let em live
@@XBeVo503X Lmao 😅🤣😂 True dat, I've seen a prettier face in my local 7eleven.
Listen to how manly it sounds when Menalaus pulls his sword out of its sheath and then listen to how girly the sound is when Paris pulls out his. They even made his sword sound girly. 😂
Lmao!!!
Good catch. Art
Fun fact no sword ever made that sound since it would imply metal hitting metal which would dull the blade. They were leather sheaths
@@TheTyler701 Absolutely correct, it’s just a fun fact I caught watching the movie.
Good catch.
Don’t know if this is the way history was, but this Hector is to Paris what a brother should always be
No, this is not at all what history was 😂
"You think of your sword, and his sword, and nothing else."
Menelaus: *swings his sword around to give Paris something to think about*
Hector was a damn good man
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Saw this 3 times in the theatre. Incredible movie and brad Pitt was in phenomenal shape.
Aww, ya left out the last moment, when Agamemnon sees his brother fall and lets out a crazed yawp. It's movie gold.
I love that bit 😁
Meanwhile menelaos didn't die at Troy.he return to Sparta
@@Εξξα11 yes, and in the poem he was a really skilled fighter and not a Shaved gorilla like in the movie
@@Εξξα11 same goes for Agamemnon, who got killed by his wife clitennestra(Helen's sister) once back at Mycene
@@blackpaint9093 Ρ I know. I am from Greece so I have read it
what a beutifull woman dian krugger, i still remember since the first time i saw this movie.
Perfectly mastered legendary movie. Awesome!
I remember watching this movie in a college auditorium a few weeks after almost literally everybody in it had finished reading the Illiad. There were audible gasps and "wtfs" at this.
Mass culture is for the masses not for the educated
it's beyond stupid that Hollywood not only does this but isn't called out for it.
@@CT-nb5lm it's a movie. There so much you can do in a 2 or 3 hour movie. Just look at The Lord of the Rings movies the films are very long, and Jackson took a lot of things out from the books. That's why movie adaptations of books are so much different from the source material. Just take as it is. And in the Iliad even the Gods get involved in the war.
In spite of the "Hollywood" changes, this movie gets a lot of the Iliad right. Achilles' arrogance balanced by his anguish, Agamemnon's ego, the sacking of Troy, the private meeting between Priam and Achilles, etc. Most of all, Homer does make Hector the most admirable of the heroes, even ending the epic with a reference to him: "Thus was the funeral of Hector, breaker of horses."
Can you imagine what a trash fire it would have been to just film the Iliad without alterations. No beginning or end, constant divine interventions, Achilles chases Hector three laps around Troy..
One of the best scenes in cinema history in my opinion.
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Good strategy. When your not strong enough to hold your own on the battlefield, run from it a beg for protection.
Eric Bana’s portrayal of doomed Hector provides TROY with the only real honorable character in the whole film. Way to go Aussie!!!
Its so weird watching originally i was like, fuck menelaus, dude didnt care about his wife. Meanwhile two people wer ein love and sure that has some romantic merit but, this is like, real life. Trojan royalty really felt they could do whatever they wanted. Prince took a married queen after a truce. Challenged to honorable combat, and then broke the rules of engagement.
it's even worse in the actual Illiad...Paris was married when he did that , so he also cheated on his wife.
@@phantasosxgames8488
Achilles:
Go home, prince. Drink some wine, make love to your wife. Tomorrow, we'll have our war.
Hector:
You speak of war as if it's a game. But how many wives wait at Troy's gates for husbands they'll never see again?
Achilles:
Perhaps your brother can comfort them. I hear he's good at charming other men's wives.
💀
But even if paris dies. Then also greek will attack on troy and break the rules. They have no intention of following the rules.
This movie is stupid in the book Menelaus is a handsome and a great king. Helen fall in love with Paris because of the stupid god reward to Paris that the most beautiful woman in the world will fall for him
shadow rain not only that , that reward was a bribe from the goddess. Paris was already married at the time , if he had chosen Athena or Hera , he would had a far better boon than be just a horny cheater
No better sneaky coward then Orlando Bloom playing Paris, and Hector is an exemplary human man, hats off Eric Bana, his most memorable role to date..
You've gotta hand it to Orlando, he knows how to act when it comes to sword play whether is role is to win the sword fight in pirates or lose it as seen here.
Paris: If i fall..tell Helen... tell her..
Hector: I will :)
2:09 that laugh is perfect
The smiles of the nasty King made my day!! 🤣🤣
Agamemnon:"I got hundred on my brother to win"
Meneleus dies
Agamemnon:"SCREEEEEEEEEEE!!!"
Well hector cheated
This is a joke?
well actually Menelaus won the battle since prince Paris retreated to his brother for help Menelaus won the 1v1
This would be a lot more easier fight if Paris trained more. If you wanna charm other men's wives, make sure you're just as skilled as Hector or even Achilles.. Otherwise your head will be rolling down the battle sands in case your brother Hector wasn't there lol
His honour did roll down the battle sands
Once you reach a certain level in fighitng/battle experience you realise the importance of self-control which makes charming other man's wives less atractive.
@@bogus3962 True but am sure there are plenty of men in those times who are SIMP driven just to achieve this less attractive goals. So they train harder so they can get laid and pass on their seeds or legacy.
@@bogus3962 This is correct. As a skilled fighter you are often aware of how good you are. However, you are also aware that in every fight there is a small percent chance that your opponent lands a lucky blow.
Pick enough fights with lethal weapons and you will end up hurt. It's just not worth it, unless you really have to.
pretty funny that they pit a untrained person against the spartan king...
Бедный Гектор. Заложник интриг Богов и людей. Кажется единственный приличный на всю "Илиаду".
1:38 love that shot, Brendan Gleeson really sells these super powerful swings 👍
The film had a big problem for me: I only cared about one of the characters - Hector. Once he was killed by Achilles, the film kinda collapsed. But until then, there was a lot to enjoy!
I’ve always thought Hector was the best of them all. True Prince.
Moal of the story. Don't steal a man's wife. Deeper moral of the story. Don't treat your wife so horribly that she will want to leave you.
In the Homeric traditions, Menelaus treated Helen as well as could be expected for a king in ancient Greek times. If anything, Menelaus was portrayed as one of the few unequivocally decent heroes on the Greek side, despite being overshadowed by others like Ajax Telemon and Diomedes, contrasting with his terrible older brother, Agamemnon, whose life typified the cursed lineage of the House of Atreus. It's just that Helen was bewitched by Aphrodite to fall in love with Paris.
Unfortunately, Menelaus often gets villainized in modern interpretations because Helen has absolutely 0 agency as a character in the original myth, being sent for political marriage to Menelaus and then being bewitched by Aphrodite and everything. So in order to give Helen self-agency and present her as a modern, independent women who follows love, people tend to do Menelaus dirty so as to justify Helen's elopement
@@7503funkymonkey Says something about Menelaus and Helen, that firstly, he didn't kill her on the spot when they met after the fighting was over, and second, she chose to go back to Sparta with him and make a reasonably civil relationship.
@@cherylannemason He actually had full intention to in the Iliad, but changed his mind when he saw her and was reminded that she was like SUPER hot.
@@seandlax9 Even so, not every man of that time and culture would've let her live just on that basis--wives were fairy expendable in those days.
Actual moral of the story: Don’t steel a mans wife unless you can beat him in a duel.
Menalaus not only got to go home after the war but also his wife back. Happy ending there
I don't think his wife would be happy. I mean look how big Menalaus was. You know what they say about big guys, they have big hands.
@@JR-cu2rt yes indeed.
Fight is over. Big man HECTOR...
one of the best movies ever. just that Trojan king, grow some balls man, had crying face the whole movie
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Irony.
Achilles has killed true warriors, but was defeated by a skinny and coward guy.
To be fair, he was no longer a coward at that moment.
@@bobbyboom9 he was
@@NightKingMarhoom yep , he was.
In the movie , it was a surprise attack when Achilles was distracted doing something else.
In the myth , Paris attacked when Achilles was occupied in the battlefield and only achieved that shot by the aid of Apollo.
Paris started a war , breaking an alliance between Sparta and Troy , out of lust , then his kingdom had to suffer 10 years of siege because he was a coward that completely hides under his brother's wing.
And gave us the most iconic quote relating to bad ankles known as “Achilles heal”.😂😂😂
Technically Paris wasn't really a coward, stupid yes but not coward, he's just more trained with bows and never had a single experience on real combat.
Director has taken us to 3000BC.
As epic & dramatic as this fight is in the movie: In the original myth, Menelaus actually survives the entire war (he is one of the strongest & bravest heroes), while Paris gets killed in battle (he doesn't get killed by Menelaus though, but by another Greek hero). After the sack of Troy, Menelaus reconnects with Helen & takes her home to Sparta.
I don't really know why they changed this storyline in the movie. It's like the scriptwriters wanted to say: See, it's ok to kidnap someone else's woman, get your entire family (who are nice & decent ppl) killed, have your city destroyed, burned down, looted + thousands of innocent ppl killed or enslaved, and still get to live the rest of your life with that bitch woman.
But yeah, whatever.
Hence why I hated the core of this movie.
Paris killed Achille first
The war did happen, there are findings and remains of walls of Troy exactly as described by Homer. They also found ancient wrecks near by with Greek swords, narrows etc. It was a great war but the price was the management and trading in the Aegean sea.
Must of been some idiot who wanted to give Orlando bloom the spotlight.
The myth has a very anti trojan bias. I wonder if the war actually happened.
2:09 I like his laugh 😂
Highly memeable
Le coup final de l'épée est vraiment fantaisiste et purement impossible. C'est un fantasme du réalisateur !
One of the few times if not the only time Hector cast his honor aside. That's how much he loved his brother.
"Love is the death of honour, the end of duty"
Hector is the real hero of the Trojan war. The greeks at this time were little more than cutthroats who saw an opportunity to use Hellen as an excuse to take Troy's wealth. The Trojan War is a tragedy because evil prevailed.
2:08. That laugh always got me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Here we can see why is good to have a big brother
Er hod am andan oba ned an Zipfi ogschnittn.
Brendan Gleeson always does a great job as a bad guy lol. Always so entertaining.
Bad guy?
Diane Krüger looks breathtaking in this movie
how can two brothers be so far from each other in terms of combat skills?
Easy. The little brother just had different interests…aka women and being a pretty boy.
Just a random guess. First brother as the heir was forced to do all the hard shit and second brother was free to do what he wanted.
@@RocketMonke69420 Let's just say that the little brother did a huge mistake that the older brother in was not involved so the little brother has to face the mess by himself.
If I remember correctly, the younger brother is more trained in archery than swordmanship
@@RocketMonke69420 Priamus had hundreds of sons
Its so sad that Hollywood is not making such wonderful periodic films anymore...i am bored of watching the Marvel and DC movies. I hate superhero movies right now.
Hector.. My favorite hero , king, husband, father, brother ....
You think of his sword and your sword and NOTHING ELSE! Spoken like a true leader with experience in battle! Troy’s warrior was Hector. Sparta’s warrior was Achilles even though his allegiance wasn’t necessarily to Sparta because he fought with his own army.
Agamemnon was king of Mycenae. Spartan leader was his brother.
Achilles wasn't from sparta you moron
As a gay porn director these words were my mantra.
Achilles had absolutely nothing to do with Sparta
@@helvete_ingres4717 exactly wtf?
Orlando Bloom gives such a woody performance its almost funny! :D
"he is my brother" was a darn good warning! 😂
P:"Do yo love me brother? Will you protect me from enemies?"
H: "Last time you asked me that you had stolen father's horse. What have you done this time?"
The fight scenes in this film are amazing though.
The hecter as character will.move you Everytime you watch this film.. adorable was his acting 🌟
Then Paris went westward, dyed his hair, changed his name, and lived among elves.
Watching this back in the day I always said to myself I can't believe this is Legolas lol