Thanks David. Another great vid! Would love to see some more details on your kit choices such as tent, sleeping mate and bag, and the bike bags you use for your adventures. Looking forward to the video on the suspension stem and post!
Been running the Hutchinson Touareg since April in Bavaria and they’re phenomenal. I wouldn’t dream of running them in the fall/winter, but for spring and summer they are trick!
The only real difference I would make is to go 2x. Get the smallest chainrings supported (GRX is 46x30 I think). Then push the B limit screw to run a 40t cog on the back - it's not totally supported by Shimano, but many have shown it working. With this setup you get a very low overall gear with smooth steps between, handy for tired legs. I also carry a Camelback pouch, as you can carry much more (2.5l) water. Particularly with COVID I don't want to use shared water taps - that, and my frame doesn't support 2 bottles with a frame bag!
For additional water, you might consider a lightweight 1L water filter. I just picked up a Katadyn BeFree water filter and it rolls up into a very small package. That way you always have the possibility of water when out on an adventure.
I find the majority of gravel bikes to be way over geared for actual use on an adventure or even just commuting with a load. A small load makes a big difference in the gearing requirements.
@@SurpriseMeJT generally speaking road and gravel need to support lower gears. If nothing else, new people to the sport need gears they can actually turn.
Sweet Setup! 9.5kg with the weird handlebar and the suspension bits? That sounds impressively lightweight for a steel frame...might have a closer look after I (inevitably) break my carbon gravel frame at some point ;)
Choosing a pair of fancy carbon hoops may do the trick to achieve 9.5 kg weight, I reckon. Putting Dave's light for a steel frame setup into perspective, my Merida Silex 700 (carbon fork and 6069 aluminum frame) on stock alloy hoops and 3 bottle cages weight >10.5 kg.
Luckily the weather was nice so ate outside with the bikes but one of our group did have a small lock just in case but we never had to use it - an advantage of riding with a few pals
I've used a lightweight code lock and made sure it's stored somewhere out of sight for passers by. No issues, the lock only weighs about 200g. Also used when setting down for the night.
Slightly unrelated question, but would appreciate your advice. My Dad has left me his bike, made in 1947. It's an original Claud Butler, with Reynolds 531 double butted TF&S. He had it 'modernised' with Shimano 600 componentry circa 1978. The wheel rims are still original and seem pretty good; they were rebuilt with Shimano 600 hubs and lightweight spokes. My question is; would this convert reasonably to a gravel bike, or should I keep it as a classic road bike and as original as possible? Thanks. ps: great video and nice set-up; I was shopping for suitable cycling bags today!
Personally I would keep this bike as it is and enjoy it the way it was meant to be ridden. But whether you could convert it depends on tyre clearance really and what tyres you’d want to fit
@@davidarthur Thanks; it has reasonable tyre clearance, but I'll service it and see what it's like as a classic before I make any changes; maybe I'll enjoy it as it was designed, but if not, will look at changing to gravel tyres and a newer groupset (if I can get a newer one to fit!
I'm triggered by the mug! I usually deposit my food wrappers in hipsters danglemugs as I pass them............. ;-) Are you buying the Red/shift stem and post to keep on the Secan???
I love my Secan, such a good bike, planning to ride KAW soon. Just wondering why you didn't have your tools in a tool bottle under the downtube? That's where I put mine and the best place to put weight is as low as possible.
Hey David ! Thanks for the review ! I really agree with about steel frame. There so nice to ride, good looking and last lifetime. I'm looking right now at a steel frame. The Fairlight are in my choice top 2 choice. As well as the brothers cycle. Have heard of these frame?
Suspension stems should be more common for most riders who don't need full suspension for leisure cycling. 80% of the benefit of suspension forks for 20% of the weight.
And the location is more useful for road/gravel riding. The steering is less affected by the suspension as only you move, not the whole bike. It's enough to take out the buzz.
Thanks David. Another great vid! Would love to see some more details on your kit choices such as tent, sleeping mate and bag, and the bike bags you use for your adventures. Looking forward to the video on the suspension stem and post!
Wasn’t sure if that would be going into too much detail but maybe I can look it that if there’s enough demand
Great video, yeah I would like to see that. Plus the size of the handbar. I have a 40cm. I bit small
Love the cup, for sure that is the only way to bring it with you.
Been running the Hutchinson Touareg since April in Bavaria and they’re phenomenal. I wouldn’t dream of running them in the fall/winter, but for spring and summer they are trick!
Yes to dangle mug, the essence of a free spirit!
Thanks for showing your set up, really nice. Do you think shallow rims are the way to go for gravel?
Wow great video...what tent do u have? Is looks really small. Thks
I have been using the Hutcheons Touregs for a year now. Good to see them!
Love the triggering thumbnail with the dangle mug 👌🏼
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It needs more mugs.
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The only real difference I would make is to go 2x.
Get the smallest chainrings supported (GRX is 46x30 I think). Then push the B limit screw to run a 40t cog on the back - it's not totally supported by Shimano, but many have shown it working. With this setup you get a very low overall gear with smooth steps between, handy for tired legs.
I also carry a Camelback pouch, as you can carry much more (2.5l) water. Particularly with COVID I don't want to use shared water taps - that, and my frame doesn't support 2 bottles with a frame bag!
For additional water, you might consider a lightweight 1L water filter. I just picked up a Katadyn BeFree water filter and it rolls up into a very small package. That way you always have the possibility of water when out on an adventure.
@@Big2Planker unfortunately around me there's not many accessible streams/rivers.
We did use similar when hiking in the Peak District though.
I find the majority of gravel bikes to be way over geared for actual use on an adventure or even just commuting with a load. A small load makes a big difference in the gearing requirements.
@@SurpriseMeJT generally speaking road and gravel need to support lower gears. If nothing else, new people to the sport need gears they can actually turn.
Sweet Setup! 9.5kg with the weird handlebar and the suspension bits? That sounds impressively lightweight for a steel frame...might have a closer look after I (inevitably) break my carbon gravel frame at some point ;)
Choosing a pair of fancy carbon hoops may do the trick to achieve 9.5 kg weight, I reckon.
Putting Dave's light for a steel frame setup into perspective, my Merida Silex 700 (carbon fork and 6069 aluminum frame) on stock alloy hoops and 3 bottle cages weight >10.5 kg.
@@RicoLee830104 I reckon the suspension seatpost and stem weigh a lot more than standard components which is why I am surprised by that weight.
Hi, great breakdown, in terms of security when at the pub etc what do you go for?
Luckily the weather was nice so ate outside with the bikes but one of our group did have a small lock just in case but we never had to use it - an advantage of riding with a few pals
I've used a lightweight code lock and made sure it's stored somewhere out of sight for passers by. No issues, the lock only weighs about 200g.
Also used when setting down for the night.
Slightly unrelated question, but would appreciate your advice.
My Dad has left me his bike, made in 1947. It's an original Claud Butler, with Reynolds 531 double butted TF&S. He had it 'modernised' with Shimano 600 componentry circa 1978. The wheel rims are still original and seem pretty good; they were rebuilt with Shimano 600 hubs and lightweight spokes.
My question is; would this convert reasonably to a gravel bike, or should I keep it as a classic road bike and as original as possible?
Thanks.
ps: great video and nice set-up; I was shopping for suitable cycling bags today!
Personally I would keep this bike as it is and enjoy it the way it was meant to be ridden. But whether you could convert it depends on tyre clearance really and what tyres you’d want to fit
@@davidarthur Thanks; it has reasonable tyre clearance, but I'll service it and see what it's like as a classic before I make any changes; maybe I'll enjoy it as it was designed, but if not, will look at changing to gravel tyres and a newer groupset (if I can get a newer one to fit!
I'm triggered by the mug! I usually deposit my food wrappers in hipsters danglemugs as I pass them............. ;-)
Are you buying the Red/shift stem and post to keep on the Secan???
I might have to
You should. I have the same set up on my Secan, as well as a Kona. Superb additions
Excellent review
I love my Secan, such a good bike, planning to ride KAW soon.
Just wondering why you didn't have your tools in a tool bottle under the downtube? That's where I put mine and the best place to put weight is as low as possible.
Just preferred putting tools in the frame pack, and less weight than the extra bottle cage and tool bottle
I still find 1x on gravel bikes designed to be loaded up to be highly insufficient. Climbing a 20kg bike requires properly low gearing.
You absolutely right. 1x gravel is for people who don't have any real load or aren't doing any amount of climbing.
Hey David ! Thanks for the review ! I really agree with about steel frame. There so nice to ride, good looking and last lifetime. I'm looking right now at a steel frame. The Fairlight are in my choice top 2 choice. As well as the brothers cycle. Have heard of these frame?
Have to say, that's a nice set up; just one question; what stove system did you use? Jetboil, MSR??
MSR pocked rocket is excellent.
Although Alpkit also make a Jetboil equivalent at about half the cost, fyi.
Planet X Jobsworth is also a great Jetboil alternative at about half the cost.
Suspension stems should be more common for most riders who don't need full suspension for leisure cycling. 80% of the benefit of suspension forks for 20% of the weight.
And the location is more useful for road/gravel riding. The steering is less affected by the suspension as only you move, not the whole bike.
It's enough to take out the buzz.
Hi david.whats the size of the saddle pack.?.
What tent did you use?? Looks small
It’s a Terra Nova and it’s incredibly light and compact
Are those Ergon grips or similar at the bar ends? What was the purpose and how did you find using them?
That's Redshift Cruise Control Drop Bar Grips (redshiftsports.com/products/cruise-control-drop-bar-grips)
Hi David, great bike. What wheels are those?
Look like enve rims 23mm www.enve.com/product/g23-700c/
Assuming those SRAM rotors work fine with GRX callipers? Cheers
Yup no problems
What do you think of the Redshift parts?
I have the same set up on my Secan!! Love them
Ah, kept watching.... 😊
First aid kit ?…
Good video
No Bear repellant?
No bears or wolves in the UK since the 1600s 😂
Nice one
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I was thinking the same, mug off people with a mug..lol
dangle mug to annoy some people lol
It’s needs a lefty!!
High centre of gravity.
Chewbless
Did you have sleeping bag? Would have been much better to show all of your stuff filmed at home.
1.38...tent, and sleeping bag stowed on his handlebar