I showed the bike at 18:20 with the Maxi Cosi baby car seat to my wife and the conversation turned into you can get an ecargo bike if we can have another baby 😂. Love the channel btw.
Love to see Urban Arrow improving so much. I just got my UA Family in June and it looks outdated already, when seeing the next year generation with Gen4 Bosch System, Zee brakes, new Rack etc.... (but I'd never wait for the next gen...because riding the UA is the best thing you can do :-))
Any idea when we’ll see actual availability of gen 4 motor and belt drive Urban Arrows in North America? I know he said 2020, but anything more concrete?
I think these wide ones are good for small urban areas they will work. More pedestrianized areas than bike lanes. In Amsterdam there are many areas like this and NYC is starting to create more like Brooklyn Bridge Park and the West Side. DHL uses another bike called the Armadillo and it is only 30” wide but can carry up to 600 lbs with the 5th wheel trailer option. I think there is a benefit to these types of vehicles, especially where cars aren’t and shouldn’t be allowed. The fact that these have a low top speed make them great for areas where only bikes and pedestrians are allowed. For hills, as long as they have the right gearing they’ll have no trouble. They are actually using a Rohloff hub on many of the really heavy duty ones to allow for a really low gear for climbing with a load.
@@Propelbikes If you consider that they add the Bosch Cargo Line setup to that as well, you have something that really is quite epic at pushing load up hills.
Sorry Hallands, it’s tough because of the different audiences and we also try to keep it moving. I’ll usually mention the price in individual reviews but not as much on these k overview videos. I’ll keep it in mind for the future. Maybe we can put links with prices in the description. Someone has asked for that before.
Propel Electric Bikes It's mainly important to know at least the price classes and maybe the approximate difference between the standard and the fully equipped variety. Doesn't have to be too specific, but I find myself wondering if we're talking 7,000€, 12,000€ or more ...
ever see the math on charging an electric vehicle versus buying gasoline? it's not good. gas is way cheaper. the batteries don't last for a year and replacement is not cheap.
I see more and more "bakfietsen" in Rotterdam. A lady was driving with 4 children in the front, only the child seat on the back was empty. I see the Urban Arrow the most.
The Urban Arrow is actually built in Rotterdam. I got to visit their factory there briefly. Unfortunately I didn't get to see much more of the city, but I hope to soon and I will definitely look you up Leo :)
The only area I don't see much innovation here is with security. In London, bike theft is one of the main reasons people don't like owning expensive bikes. Can we not have motion alarms etc like you see on hire bikes? Also, the cafe lock doesn't look 'beefy' enough for my liking.
I would also like to see more in this area. We’ve been looking to some of the lock companies for solutions and they are delivering some results, but we could definitely use more options. Especially in the city.
Selamat petang. Kirim basikal itu untuk saya supaya dapat saya promosi diselangor malaysia. Untuk saya membayar harga basikal ini saya tak mampu kerana saya tak bekerja sekarang ini. Kalian mampu dan beri lah saya peluang.
@@Propelbikes yeah, but I can buy a car for this price tag and the 4 kids would actually be safe, and I don't have to act like I am pedaling. I honestly just don't get the point of electric bikes, other than dodging the car insurance and registration and licensing, and it won't be long before electric bikes get regulated there. especially the big ones like these.
@@greedfox7842 "yeah, but I can buy a car for this price tag" Sure you could, i could also buy an electric cargo bike for a thousand bucks. That's about 1/8th the fuel costs of a car per year alone... Then comes maintenance. Insurance. Taxes. Getting a license. (which is on average about a thousand euro) And all that money and effort, just to get stuck in traffic in an inner city? I'll keep my cargo bike.
I showed the bike at 18:20 with the Maxi Cosi baby car seat to my wife and the conversation turned into you can get an ecargo bike if we can have another baby 😂.
Love the channel btw.
It's so cool to see Hugo Strange do something good for the community.
Love to see Urban Arrow improving so much.
I just got my UA Family in June and it looks outdated already, when seeing the next year generation with Gen4 Bosch System, Zee brakes, new Rack etc....
(but I'd never wait for the next gen...because riding the UA is the best thing you can do :-))
I think this is the perfect attitude! There is always something around the corner, but there is nothing like riding today 😊
Why are the US models still on Gen 2 motors while Europe gets Gen 3 and Gen 4?
I have two for my work in London. Great load carriers. Very sturdy and reliable.
They are definitely solid! We have seen many in use in London. Maybe we’ll see more commercially used cargo bikes in the states soon ;)
5:24 Lots of love for the Dutch guy recognizing that we DO have an equivalent to the Dutch Post. The USPS!
This is true! It would be great to get them on bikes!
The specs are nice, but what is the autonomy of a battery, considering the 300kg weight + the person riding it..?
Henning is a great sales person really enthusiastic. The company has fantastic products
Henning is awesome and UA rocks!
Any idea when we’ll see actual availability of gen 4 motor and belt drive Urban Arrows in North America? I know he said 2020, but anything more concrete?
Thanks for reaching out. It sounds like it will be fall 2020. We’re trying to get them sooner, but fall seems like a realistic date at the moment.
I am so excited for mine, 1 week to go!!
7:20 Do you think these much larger versions will be all that different than cars? Also, will the motors be capable of taking these up large hills?
I think these wide ones are good for small urban areas they will work. More pedestrianized areas than bike lanes. In Amsterdam there are many areas like this and NYC is starting to create more like Brooklyn Bridge Park and the West Side.
DHL uses another bike called the Armadillo and it is only 30” wide but can carry up to 600 lbs with the 5th wheel trailer option. I think there is a benefit to these types of vehicles, especially where cars aren’t and shouldn’t be allowed. The fact that these have a low top speed make them great for areas where only bikes and pedestrians are allowed.
For hills, as long as they have the right gearing they’ll have no trouble. They are actually using a Rohloff hub on many of the really heavy duty ones to allow for a really low gear for climbing with a load.
@@Propelbikes If you consider that they add the Bosch Cargo Line setup to that as well, you have something that really is quite epic at pushing load up hills.
Impressive lineup!!
They’re pretty great! We’ll be visiting them in November and making some more videos with them. Stay tuned :)
These cargo ebikes are pretty awesome, they are fantastic!
By the way how about cargo ebikes for camper sounds pretty cozy..... Well looking forward to it.
Wow! These bikes are so useful.
Check out Pedal Me in London to see just HOW useful Urban Arrows can be!
Why not a trike which would make it more stable?
Trikes tend to tip over at speed, and these are a lot more narrow, which offers advantages.
I wish there was something like the family bike but much cheaper :/ These are so pricey!
The Family is on sale in the US currently. propelbikes.com/product/urban-arrow-family/
Prices, gentlemen, prices, please!
Sorry Hallands, it’s tough because of the different audiences and we also try to keep it moving. I’ll usually mention the price in individual reviews but not as much on these k overview videos. I’ll keep it in mind for the future. Maybe we can put links with prices in the description. Someone has asked for that before.
Propel Electric Bikes It's mainly important to know at least the price classes and maybe the approximate difference between the standard and the fully equipped variety. Doesn't have to be too specific, but I find myself wondering if we're talking 7,000€, 12,000€ or more ...
@@Hallands. great point. I will make a better effort on this in the future.
ever see the math on charging an electric vehicle versus buying gasoline? it's not good. gas is way cheaper.
the batteries don't last for a year and replacement is not cheap.
I see more and more "bakfietsen" in Rotterdam. A lady was driving with 4 children in the front, only the child seat on the back was empty. I see the Urban Arrow the most.
The Urban Arrow is actually built in Rotterdam. I got to visit their factory there briefly. Unfortunately I didn't get to see much more of the city, but I hope to soon and I will definitely look you up Leo :)
How.do
You.become.a.dealer.
The only area I don't see much innovation here is with security. In London, bike theft is one of the main reasons people don't like owning expensive bikes. Can we not have motion alarms etc like you see on hire bikes? Also, the cafe lock doesn't look 'beefy' enough for my liking.
I would also like to see more in this area. We’ve been looking to some of the lock companies for solutions and they are delivering some results, but we could definitely use more options. Especially in the city.
I use a very thick £200 Krypton motorbike lock
Selamat petang. Kirim basikal itu untuk saya supaya dapat saya promosi diselangor malaysia. Untuk saya membayar harga basikal ini saya tak mampu kerana saya tak bekerja sekarang ini. Kalian mampu dan beri lah saya peluang.
those look heavy as fuck. have fun pushing that.
and if it is electric, why not just get a moped? mopeds are cheap AF and you can add a trailer.
I recommend trying to ride one before passing judgement. You can’t carry 4 kids on a moped.
@@Propelbikes yeah, but I can buy a car for this price tag and the 4 kids would actually be safe, and I don't have to act like I am pedaling.
I honestly just don't get the point of electric bikes, other than dodging the car insurance and registration and licensing, and it won't be long before electric bikes get regulated there. especially the big ones like these.
I guess the good news is we don’t all have to agree for us to be happy. Enjoy the car
@@greedfox7842 "yeah, but I can buy a car for this price tag"
Sure you could, i could also buy an electric cargo bike for a thousand bucks.
That's about 1/8th the fuel costs of a car per year alone...
Then comes maintenance.
Insurance.
Taxes.
Getting a license. (which is on average about a thousand euro)
And all that money and effort, just to get stuck in traffic in an inner city?
I'll keep my cargo bike.
Not for urban democrat areas… unless you have body armor and firearms.