What Are The Spurs Options This Offseason | Roster Analysis | NBA Draft & Free Agency Outlook
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- In this episode we are going to disect the big antonio spurs. s upcoming offseason for the san antonio spurs. We will take a look at the payroll for next season, talk foundation players, players under contract, draft impact, entering free agency and what the roles look like for next season.
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No one has ever wondered whether Wemby himself might be keen to keep some of the players they play with now. You have to bear in mind that the guy does everything on the pitch and making him happy is something that makes perfect sense. I think one good, promising player is enough. But there was a clear improvement in Spurs at the end of the season. Something to think about 😊
Disagree on the foundation players. I have them in two tiers. Players your keeping for next 5-10 yrs, and solid players but are replaceable/trade able.
Tier 1:
Wemby
Vessel
Sochan
Tier 2:
Tre
Sandro
Branham
Not a keldon fan unless he ups his defense/effort a lot. Guy can score but that’s it. Wesley can’t shoot. I love his effort but you gotta get shooters are kind wemby. Need to see more time from Sandro, but I thought he had clear chemistry with wemby on both sides of floor, can relieve some of the banging from wemby etc.
Loved the pod!
Very good review. However, I think the hawks want wayyyyy too much for Trae young.
Even if they didn't the Spurs aren't trading for him. He's not a Spurs type player
Great segment! You got yourself another sub. GSG 😀
Appreciate you!!!!
Draft Nikola Topic, he’s a facilitator that’s on a whole another level. Keep Vassell and Sochan to let them continue developing with Victor. Then to address SF, bring in OG Anunoby.
Nikola topic, sochan and id like the spurs to pick up another big man like Lauri markkanen. I’m a huge fan of the twin towers team style.
@@GG-jn9fx Hence why Anunoby. I think what he’d bring offensively is leaps and bounds better and more suited for the kind of ball the Spurs want to play.
@@danielpenrodii2389 leaps and bounds? Huh he might be faster but he’s much shorter and more of a true sf. Markkanen can play 3-5, almost averaged a double-double with over 20 points a game and can shoot the three at 7 feet tall. Two seven footers who can shoot threes and crash board and one of them is wemby who’s getting the most stocks again next year is a recipe for a finals contender. That takes a lot of pressure off of wemby also offensively.
I wanna Spurs to trade Bilal Coulibaly
Thanks for the perspective! I appreciate your input!
Half the foundation players will be gone. When your players are going into their 5th and 6th NBA seasons they are not in the category of "I like our young players" anymore imho. They are in the category of this isn't working out and we need to pivot in a different direction.
They are only 23,24. Needed a season to adjust to wemby and see what he can do. Why would you pay someone all that money for a year and trade them before they prime.
@@ketothebroskiii1253Had to meet the salary floor.
There is one player over 25 with a deal and that's Zach Collins. Which means everyone younger than him is young. We also have like seven 20-21 year olds
We can say this or that but it's really up to the spurs management
Enjoyed the analysis and cogent takes. That said I think the Spurs need to make some sort of FA move if we want to be in the playoff hunt next year. I don’t believe this draft will yield what we need.
I’m not taking a Trae Young type of move either - I was actually thinking as you were - Batum / SloMo.
We know the Spurs are unlikely to make a big splash but these are different times and Victor is way ahead of the curve. They might just depart from the status quo
Cj McCollum is a free agent that would address the perimeter holes in the offence. He’s the guy I’d have my eyes on if I’m in the front office.
If they can draft a guy like Nikola Topic, somebody who can shoot and also facilitate at a top level, that kind of shot creation without even having the ball will positively impact everybody. Address SF via free agency and get somebody more efficient than what we have
A 7’ banger, upgrade at PG would be my priorities. Tre is a backup/situational PG. A few guys on the team deserve a little more time to develop. I can see a couple guys getting moved to get an all star caliber player
Tre is shooting like 40% from three as a starter, has 7 assists too, doesn't have turnovers, and is a team player. Take Trea Young who shoots worse percentage from three and losses the ball a bunch and has maybe 4 assists more per game. People think Young is a star and Jones isn't good, but Jones took a massive leap this year and is arguably a better fit than most players at PG for this Spurs team
@@blablablaa14 Tre can't create his own shot, all his 3 are from catch and shoot.
A PG starter need to be able to create his own shot, not everytime but at least some times... Tre is not that guy.
Also he's not at 40% from 3. For the season he shooting only 34.1% from 3 (with a nice 50.7 FG%, he's a sneaky good finisher)
I really like Tre Jones, but his ceiling is probably 6th man. No team (except tanking team) would take him as a starter PG (but he's definitely a nice backup PG)
@@aspleen1102 Tre is shooting 40% as a starter. He didn't get to start the season, but his production once he was moving to the starting lineup has been great. He might not be a title PG, but also we aren't a title team now. So I am good with keeping him as a starter for now
Let’s see how the draft position turns out. If that raptors pick falls out of the top 6. Could be interesting. Me personally I would contact the nets about bridges. The nets desperately need a draft pick and could be rebuilding. Bridges would be a nice fit next to Wemby. Claxton is nice as well.
Get a point guard and fill up
A bench that can shoot and guard
Maliki has had some great games lately - not perfect but he is showing his worth.
But we do need Malaki to be more aggressive for defense.
I cant say I agree with Wesley. Got to love his effort, but unless he can learn to shoot, I wouldnt keep him.
He's 20. Relax give it time. The boy is so scared when he gets to shoot it. No one shoots well in the NBA when they get 1 three every 3 games. Wesley's value is clear
@@blablablaa14 IDK. He even struggles with layups. He has to dunk to make sure he makes it.
@@tomfitterer6034 Thats a confidence thing
BW was a sg in college and with gutty pull-ups. However, we pick MB the same year and has more on-ball skills than BW. Therefore, we execute the plan for training BW as a PG. In short, he just needs more time to develop.
Toronto is going to finish #6. All we need in the lottery is for one team to move up that isn’t Toronto or Portland, and we’ll get the pick.
Toronto finishing @ six gives them a 46% chance of keeping the pick. We still are technically more likely to keep the pick than not.
Here's what I wonder, why no one mentions that DeMar DeRozan is going to be a free agent this summer and still is averaging 20+ points a game for the Bulls. I think he still likes Pop and I can imagine he's one of the many who see Wemby as a budding Super Star. Imagine a line up of him at the 3, Devin, and Wemby. Then you add a top 5 guard like Topic or Dillingham and if the Spurs get the Toronto pick maybe you swing for the fences a bit and take Buzelis, Cody Williams, or Ron Holland.
That to me is at least a play-in team because the Spurs have a number of picks possibly in the '25 draft and '26 that would allow them to ditch tanking and possibly still get one, maybe 2 lottery picks. So the Spurs can just play and win and they don't have to mortgage everything to get a Tre Young or Cade Cunningham. DeMar would solve a lot of the Spurs ills.
demar is a heavy iso 2000 era type of scorer. he will mess up the spurs flow
He don't fit the time line. Demar probably going to try win one in the next couple of years, spurs are and won't be ready
@@al.ce16 I agree he doesn't fit the time line if the Spurs keep to the slow build, but if they decide they have seen enough DeMar knows the system and Pop who despite allowing the end of his career to become mostly about the future, might want to have one last go at a title. And I think Wemby, DeMar, Vassell, and hopefully 2 top 10 picks especially if one of those is Sarr or Risarche can at least be a play-in team if not Playoff
@@AtsyKlr I don't know isn't that a good number of Forwards these days? He is still a pretty good one and won't cost picks or a ton of money.
@@Aquarian2781 I'd take demar if the spurs are already formidable and clicking with the addition of a new playmaker and some 3 n D wings I think demar is in the tail of his career by then
get rid of blake wesley 17 per cent from 3,s --unaacceptable-- he is not a foundation player
When we talk about this coming offseason,
I hope spurs to target two special guys.
No.1 is magic's Isaac.
This season Wemby is often defending two or more guys at same time, he needs some help.
If Isaac joins us, we can play swishing defense on front court sooooo well.
Plus, we can avoid Wemby losing stamina quickly.
A health Wemby is our cornerstone,
it's doesn't matter what others think.
In my imagination,
if we get raptor's pick this year,
spurs & magic's trade should be like this:
Spurs gets: Issac + 2024 magic's 1st round pick
Magic gets: raptor's pick + Malaki + maybe two 2st round picks.
Another one spur fan told me this year seems too weak, I agreed.
So I changed it:
Spur gets: Issac + 2024 magic's 1st round pick
Magic gets: raptor's pick+ spur's 2026 1st round pick(lottery protected for two years than become two 2st round picks) + Malaki + maybe two 2st round picks.
If it's a done deal,
then imagine we put wizard's Avdija along with Wemby & Isaac.
Yes, he is my No.2
Solid defense + iso + a little bit playmaking.
Sounds like Ben Simmons with shoot + good attitude and only 4yrs/5500M.
But it would cost more assets to make it come true.
That'd in my mind like this:
Spur gets: Avdija
Wizard gets: magic's pick+ bull's pick + 2028 spur's 1st round pick(lottery protected for two years then become two 2st round picks) + Keldon + Graham( to help with salary match)
If we go lucky,
we may have the starters line like this:
Wemby/ Zach
Isaac/ Sochan/mamu
Avdija/ Cedi/Sidy
Vassell
Plus our own 2024 1st pick to backup
We all know pop's great at developing offense in DEFENSIVE TALENTS.
In this case,
Sarr, Resacher and maybe Topic are all good additions to us.
Even if we finally go for Trae with hawk's picks,
this kind of defensive starters line will make it more acceptable.
By the way,
I also think about other guys just like Markkanen or Garland then give up quickly.
if you think jonathan issac injury prone ass is worth a first round pick then idk what to tell you. i’m a fan of him but be real
@@jalenahtx
Thanks for your message!!!
I'm also Isaac' fan too.
After 904 days, he made his return for Magic this season.
For now, he played 55 games with 16mins per game.
Consider his oft-injured history, that's not a bad signal.
We all know pop's also a health management master.
If he joins us next season,
he'll be monitored anytime for sure.
Trade for him with our own future 1st round pick maybe a risky investment,
so I put a proviso with lottery protected for two years.
In this case, we have to show Magic with the utmost sincerity,
same with Isaac.
Every team knows Magic's a ticking time bomb.
They have too many bigmen,
and too many rookies to extend contracts in few years.
Including Banchero's Max.
We can help them with two picks for future talents, and Malaki for backup SG with shoot.
Besides utmost sincerity for the trade,
we also have to think about SA is a small market.
No free agent cames proactively except LMA.
If we want Isaac to stay with us for a long time,
we have to show him more.
We have pop, we have Wemby.
Most importantly,
We have patience and know how to be a champion.
@@jameskou4034 i wouldn’t mind jonathan like you said he would help out so much on the defensive side but if SA can get him without trading anything expensive then it’s a W
Markkanen would be amazing with wemby, sort of like a giannis Gobert defense at its worst, something revolutionary at its best because they both have really high IQ. I dont agree about Isaac though. I like a lot of the magic players but I would way rather take a chance on a draft pick than paying a bunch to get Isaac, thats a bad trade for me and we might as well go all in for a markkanen situation.
@@jalenahtx
That's for sure!!!👍
I think that the most important thing is not to get the best players possible, it's to get the players that fit the best around Wemby. That Why I dont think the Spurs would draft Saar even if they get the number one pick and that also why I would put Tre Jones a lot higher on that "foundation players" list. I dont think he will end up being the number one PG for the future Spurs dinasty but I do think that right now he is one of the player that fit the best with Wemby in the rooster. Dream scenario would be to get to draft Risacher as number 1, 2 or 3 pick and then draft Sheppard or Dillingham with the raptors pick. Then get Batum (and an elite PG maybe) and the Spurs could go to the playoff next season.
Tre Jones is not a field general that created shooting opportunities away from the ball. Defenses did not worry about him, so even though he did better than I imagined he would, he isn’t the caliber of guy to fixate on in that regards. For Victor’s development and the team’s future, we need a PG that can facilitate the ball better, demand more attention with or without the ball, and can control the floor. Tre does none of those things.
Unless you over pay I don't see Kyle Anderson or Batum going to a rebuild team ..and I doubt we get the raptors pick
if boston goes down. batum is leaving he can go to spurs they have the money.
KJ and Zach need to be placed on the market.
We need to integrate Mamu and Sidy more on the roster, these 2 are absolute ballers.
Thanks for the perspective! I appreciate your input!
Nic Claxton will be a great free agent pick up or if Anunoby doesn't resign with the Knicks.
Neither of them is a Spurs player, and both are not on our timeline
@@blablablaa14 nic Claxton is only 24 yrs old, and anunoby is 26 yrs. old.
@@cinco4739 Yeah and our star is 20. We need to surround him with people under 25 and that have a good attitude. And OG is resigning for the Knicks so he's not a real option. Claxton has many attitude issues he wont fit (though I like him as a player)
@@blablablaa14 Yeah I know most likely OG will resign with the knicks that's why I said if he doesn't.. Claxton on the other hand, I can't find any articles that says he has any attitude problems, maybe he does but I see nothing major and I think the Spurs can handle him.. What I like about these two is their defensive prowess which the spurs lacks, they aren't ball dominant and they are still relatively young.. Would also like the spurs to try Mamu as pg. he is a decent ball handler a lot better than sochan. And he plays well with Wemby.
@@cinco4739 Yes but Clax would cost what Jacob Poeltl would have cost and we didn't keep Jacob. I would much rather if we go defensive get Johnathan Issac who would be a monster next to Wemby
Good video!
I think kj needs to get moved
I think a good pickup would be fultz, he would be really cheap this off-season. That’s if spurs pick a forward in the draft.
Tre Jones did do pretty well, I’ll give him that credit. However, he or himself with his brother, are nowhere near good enough to be the answer for year two of Wemby. We MUST address the PG spot early in the draft and find a guy who is a facilitator, a field general, somebody that creates plays/space without even having the ball in his hands. Wemby gets soooo much attention from defenses that we need somebody ASAP that can make his life that much easier. I know not all answers can be given in just this one off season, but the first piece that has to be tackled is getting a PG with high potential.
Thanks for the perspective! I appreciate your input!
I think you're being way too optimistic about the current roster. If two players other than Victor from that top 7 list are on next year's roster I would be shocked. They will probably be sent off as part of trade packages I'm not sure if they keep Devin or Jeremy but other than those two the rest are all going to be gone. As a low-key move I would like to see them bring in Washington's tyus Jones. The guy rarely ever turns the ball over and it's just a very solid point guard. You don't get scoring out of him but you get great point guard play. I think he's perfect for a year too improvement from one Jones to a better Jones.
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The trade package for any trade scenario should be around Vassel, Tre and Devonte. Not only for salary reasons, because in my opinion they are our best replaceable assets with the best value. If necessary Wesley, Bassey and Cissoko aswell but i think that other teams dont see that much value in them.
Glad you're not GM
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Batum announced in the french sport magazine that he retires at the end of the olympics ;)
question : if you are for ex 2nd team pick, and the 2nd draft he is not what you want can you take 3, 4 or other ? or do you have to take 2 ?
What do you mean by not what you want ? if you have the 2nd pick, you can pick any player in the draft but the one already picked in number 1, that's all.
@@paulmallet3104 thanks. I meant of course any position that hasn't been already picked.
Personally, i would throw Keldon, Maliki, and 2 1st-round picks for markkitin. Only if he signs an extension. Then i would trade picks for a good pg like Garland.
The team needs perimeter scoring at the guard position. Instead of trading future assets for Garland, we could draft the kid out of Kentucky with the same skill set and have him on a rookie contract.
Yeah nobody taking that garbage cmon let's be real
Branham has some of the worst turnovers late in games. I feel he makes stupid mistakes and sometimes forces his shot.
Lauri Markkanen, Josh Giddy, Jonathan Issac should be our top 3 targets to trade for
Giddy ? you're serious ? he is a great passer no doubt but the rest sucks...
@@lecoolpotager6670 the guy will give you an easy 16-6-7. He’s the exact player that would compliment wemby. An will actually PASS him the ball.
@@enriquehughes171 defensively however it's a catastrophy....
Gosh!😮I’m thinking the exact same thing on these 3 players. What a coincidence man like how on earth this happens 😂
We need perimeter scoring, an off ball perimeter threat, and a guy that can create his own offence. Cj McCollum is a free agent this summer and he’d be perfect for our offence!
Keep every young player we have. Let go of the older guys like Cedi, keep developing our young guys and add another in the draft. That's the Spurs way. No big trades, no big moves, no spending a ton of assets to skip steps. We build like the Spurs do
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I disagree 💯. This team was only good enough to get us the 3rd worst record in the league. We need more talent or at least players that complement Wemby better.
Champagnie is under contract for 4 years @ 3 million a year. Hes basically free. We wont unload him
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Thank You!!!
Good job. What about Garland?
Improve their shooting. Draft Risacher and Knecht
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We need pg as the # priority
Nick Batum is retiring at the end of the season
TOPIC
Jalen Brown got 300 million dollar contract, hearing Doncic getting 400 million, So Spurs would be wise to factor in a projected Wemby contract maybe 500 million??
Best case scenario for me this offseason is if we're able to draft ALEX SARR and DALTON KNECHT in the first round (like a 1st pick and 7th pick, respectively) then somehow gets to draft ZACH EDEY and RYAN DUNN both in the 2nd round...then subsequently able to trade for either LAMELO BALL or TRAE YOUNG in the free agency!! Damn! The starting lineup would be WEMBY, SARR, SOCHAN, VASSELL and LAMELO/TRAE then 2nd unit would be EDEY, COLLINS, DUNN, KNECHT and JONES. Then finally, WEMBY gets the gold in the Olympics!! =)
lamelo and trae aren't popovic type player they are too turnover prone
This team has good potential. Their just too small. They don't have legit forwards. This team is mostly made up of guards
WE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA MAY 12TH.
The spurs don't need a PG the spurs need either a SF or PF or C
I would like Blake Wesley to be the staring PG next season he is a bulldog on defense
Dude gets cooked on defense every time. "Effort" isn't good enough. And you really want to start someone who couldn't put a ball in the basket if he were 5 inches away from it?
That's just a recipe for a spacing disaster. Forget Wemby getting double-teamed this season, dude is about to get tripple teamed next season if youre running a Wesley and Sochan lineup at the same time.
San Antonio has a win-now mentality with Victor on the team and they're not going to keep a bunch of guys that would be backups on any other NBA team. You seem to really like all of these starters and I think you're pretty much alone in that. Yeah they're the home team and we root for them but this bunch of players kept Victor down and did not help him prosper. Very few of these guys if any will be on the team next year and certainly may be none of them by the year after that. It's almost a waste of time to review their numbers. We had bad guard play bad forward play and incredible center play. You talk about this team as if they were a 55 game-winning team when this group of guys couldn't play with one of the best young players in league history and get any more victories than they did.
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If you don't consistently pass the ball to wemby not knowing he's the best player on the team you need to go...
If you still think that Wemby doesn't get the ball when his usage is top 10 in the league, you either haven't been watching or aren't a Spurs fan
who is a popovic type player
Keldon needs to go
Batum/Anderson? Youre bugging!
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how about packaging the upcoming draft picks in a trade?
SPURS BUILD DYNASIES THE PAST 10 YEARS WITH DRAFT PICKS SPURS ARE FUCKING EXPERTS AT BUILDING DYNATIES.
None of these players not named Wemby can play defense worth a damm,
what do u guys think about pairing wemby with sarr
that will push sochan to SF probabbly not. but it can be done.
@@alfonstabz9741 oh i forgot about sochan. didnt think carefully
@@jonathanchan1365 your plan can actually be done. but with challenges it's possible if they get no. 1 pick again
Get deni avdija
1st Dammit
Topic and Buzelis would be am ideal draft.
Dillingham/Sheppard and Buzelis/Castle.
Topic and Buzelis provides no spacing at all because both can't shoot. Ideally, you'd want to add an offensive threat, and a defensive threat since there are no 2 way players in this draft.
@@Austin2Sexy D & S can shoot but too undersized ; Castle and Buzelis can defend as well as full-sized but can't shoot. Topic can makeplay but can't shoot. Which priorities should we pick? So dilemma!!
Player evaluation of the Spurs, Wemby and the trashcans😂😂😂
charles bassey is gone. mamu is better complement than him.
You lost me with your trade targets. Absolute trash, all those players. NO way, as in NO WAY, we want any of those players. Trae Young will take out half of our first round picks for the next 4 yrs. NO WAY. He will be a FA in 25/26, with an early termination clause. Get him then. Otherwise he could leave for LA or NY after his contract is up if you get him now. Topic will be available for the Spurs this year. Other teams are not into him, like the Spurs. As long as we are in the top 6 we should be fine.
Cannot agree more. Trade everything and future for Trae Young is stupid. He is not the guy that will bring you championship immediately. Spurs still needs their draft asset for rebuild.
Bunch of non Spurs FANS in these comments appatently...
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I don’t think most of these players should be part of the Spurs long term plans. They were only good enough to get us the 3rd worst record in the league.
Why do Spurs fans want to keep these bums? You think Wemby will want to stay if we take this bottom 5 team for the "long haul"?
You missed the part about contracts. Regardless of the level they need to rise to complement Victor, it's not easy to just cut everyone nor is it even wise as this is everyone's first season with Wemby.
Even All Stars often have a tough time adapting to new teams in their first season there.
This should all be obvious...
Casual ... these guys not bums they’re only handcuffed except wemby and Devin... spurs tanking come on 😅
Jeremy is assigned to guard opponents’ best players. Vassel is still developing.
And he is not bad at that job . @@neoman1858
casual