What The 2000s Thought Today Would Be: Phones
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- So if I asked you what people in the 2000s thought 2020 would be like, it almost sounds like a slightly mundane inquiry on the surface. 2 decades isn’t “that much” time, and it stands to reason that their predictions would be that the tech of the day would get better.
Yes, that would make sense. But here’s the thing….modern smartphones, their absolute takeover of modern life, wasn’t a guarantee. IT wasn’t until 2010 or so that it seemed like these smartphones would define the upcoming decade. In 2000, they predicted that things would go a different way. A way that…well…you’ll have to see.
They were a bit off.
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Putting computers on everything
Past:
"Awsome!!!"
Now:
"Oh hell no!!!"
"oh my god yes my computer will know everything and know what i need to buy, truly great"
now"WHY DOES THE GOOGLE WANT TO SELL ME [Specific thing] I NEVER LOOKED SOMETHING LIKE THAT UP"
yOU CAN USE THE APP TO ACTIVATE YOUR JUICE DISPENSER AND YOUR JUICE HABITS WILL BE UPLOADED TO TheCloud™ WHERE ANY JUCEIRO CAN KNOW HOW MUCH JUICE YOU LIKE. YOU _MSUT USE THE APP._ IT'S GOT NO BUTTONS. AREN'T WE IN THE FUTURE HOLY SHIT
well, almost all electronic devices have computers integrated nowadays. Even modern fridges have computers in it.
@@martiddy do microcontrolers count? because there are tiny processors inside monitors, SSDs, HDs, everything!
@@srpenguinbr All microcontrollers includes one or more CPUs, so yeah they do.
1900's: We will have Flying Phones in 2021
2021: *Airplane mode*
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@@AxxLAfriku god damn do you ever fucking sleep?
"Soon, computers will be twice as powerful, 500 times bigger and so expensive only the five richest monarchs of Europe will be able to afford one."
quantum computers basically, but those are only useful for niche scientific stuff anyways
@@w.t.5136 for now at least
~ Professor John Frink, Springfield, USA 1974
"Can they be used for dating?" ~ Marge Bouvier, Springfield, USA 1974
@@NewPaulActs17 That was actually a computing science student from India.
@@rockaway0beach apu?
3:59 gotta love how that futuristic smartwatch has two rows of dead pixels
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Smartphones are basically the Tricorders and Communicators from Star Trek: The Next Generation combined into one device. And that series was set in the 24th century.
combinded with the tablets from start trek, it's kinda funny when they hand in like reports on tablets and every report us in a separate tablet
@@KeinNiemand never actually realized that. 😂😂
I mean itbwaw obviously a tablet but handing them off never cross d my mind. I wonder if the producers didn't realize.
I guess, i mean they didn't have internet but other forms of wireless existed for a while.
enterprise had smartphones
@@KeinNiemand and yet they still need separate holo cameras instead of being able to do it with the pad/tricorder/communicator
@@KeinNiemand To be fair - everyone on the show knew that was ridiculous, but it was a 'theatrical' way to advance the plot. Someone could take a PADD down to engineering. Mike Okuda has often said if the Enterprise were real they'd just send files on a network like we do.
The 2000’s: The Beginning of Today’s World
Kinda, the fall of the soviet union in the nineties comes to mind but I'm sure a lot of stuff happened before 2000 that directly shaped our modern world.
It was really 9/11 that set the course for the modern world. The fall of the USSR opened many doors, but it was 9/11 and it's aftermath that decided which one we'd take.
@@daelinblack6681 e. g. Electricity
It's arbitrary where you put the beginning of the today's world.
@@TeeBar420 9/11 is a starting point for much of the geopolitical situation today. But it didn't ecactly decide how technology would preogress... Even the geopolitical thingy is disputed from a WORLD perspective.
It’s great he’s calmed down a bit but I kinda miss the cracked out content
Same. I want to know If Mario kart is a homosexual
I agree fully.
That stuff is on his new channel
He calmed down?
@@CornmanC what channel?
Serial Experiments Lain was a 1998 anime that predicted the impact of technology and smartphones really well.
Guess I got somthing new to watch
@@gangatalishis it is mediocre
@@kameronjones7139 better than bad
@@gangatalishis not by much
"everyones connected no matter where you go"
Someone take away Tyler's meds, this new lucid Tyler scares me.
don't entice him to go back into the abyss
@@apostle602gmail I need him in the abyss. I need my Knowledge-fucks.
@@stephenfarmer7280 That's why he has a second channel
I just think it’s cool that technology is progressing so fast, we can’t even imagine what the world will look like in 10 years, much less 20
I bet the world will look green and blue in 10 years, maybe even 20!
@@w.t.5136 touché
@@w.t.5136 Well...we hope that's the case.
Yeah bro in 10 years we might have flying cars
@@Blankenboom77 oh no.
I'm still waiting for my _Get Smart_ "shoe phone."
Yeah, holograms as it turns out are way trickier than they were thought to be back then. Outside of a controlled environment, you pretty much need a phased array of powerful, tiny lasers focused on points in the air to ionize air molecules to generate the light. The problems with that are A) we don't have lasers at that scale yet, at least not outside of labs; B) even if we did the energy source required to power them probably isn't small enough to fit in your pocket; C) it probably wouldn't be safe to get anywhere near such holograms; and D) why? What information would a hologram convey that can't be displayed on a touch-screen in as good, if not much better detail. Holograms, like flying cars, are novelty; They're cool to look at, fun to think about, but in practice fall short of expectations and are terribly inefficient compared to other, more mature technologies.
That said, a good alternative to holograms might be an intelligent swarm of miniature drones with LEDs or OLEDs that could arrange into shapes and move as needed for a display. We've already seen these for a couple years now with consumer grade drones modified to fly in pre-designed formations for light shows. It would just be a matter of scaling down drone technology to a few millimeters, though power supply would be an issue here as well
I remember an article about a keyboard that would be a projection touch for the desk. They finally came out, and they sucked
I had a similar experience: playing any emulator on android sucks if you don't have a proper controller bcs you'll miss the on-screen buttons a lot of times, as they have no physical features for the feely-senses to look for
I remember that and I thought how am I going to know what keys I press if all I can feel is the desk?
@@kavky and now you have a phone keyboard
@@ProgressOnly Yea but this one is already on the screen I'm looking at so I see everything. With the physical keyboard I type by tactile memory.
@ShaunDoesMusic wouldn't those blister buttons be like the POS appliance buttons with feedback that fail? I think we have them but they're very unreliable
Speaking of holograms. nobody has got that duel disk tech quite right yet.
I guess it's the same hazard as with flying cars, you don't want people summoning
and battling with 50 story god dragons made of hard light in the middle of a metro district.
"I SUMMON BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON, PRETEND TO DESTROY MY NEIGHBORHOOD!!! BWAHAHAHAHAA!"
-Every early 00's kid who watched Yugioh
My biggest early 2000s memory was watching movies on those old drop down car DVD players, who's screen was smaller than your average smartphone while also having the width of a VHS.
@Evil Pimp Lol, nahh. I remember when I was little and all my friends were in awe over a girl who had a DVD player that played SpongeBob in her mom's car, I was so jealous 🤣
Our family never had that but I remember bugging my parents to get a car with those. They didn’t and I instead played games on a screen that was about the 1/4 of the size
What a coincidence, we were just talking about you in the new AlternateHistory Hub video comments. Love you, brother. Keep up the great work.
Among Us is the only thing they predicted
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People still think everything will be computers basically, they call it the internet of things.
honestly I hope that doesn't happen
@@thezipcreator DW IoT's gone to shit for the most part
Meanwhile, we're out of silicon
@@thezipcreator In some ways it already has, but it tends to be more common in industrial environments. Factories, freight transport, etc etc. Most people just don’t seem to feel there’s any need for IoT in their home environments.
@@olivercuenca4109 say for yourself, I want to play minecraft on my samsung smart fridge
Well they were kinda right at the 3:23 mark. Your whole house can be connected with some security systems and other products. Turning the lights on and off with your voice, tracking systems you can place on just about anything under the sun. Interconectivity is definitely a thing lol
The real mistake was thinking it would be amazing. In reality, we got HACKABLE FRIDGES.
My thought is when will Circuit City come back so that they can sell these phones.
I see your "Circuit City" and raise you "Crazy Eddie's!"
His prices were… _IN-SANE!!_
I remember a while ago there was a website showing two articles written on the subject of "do violent video games cause violence", back when there was still a big debate on that subject. The pro-side said that 'soon we'll have video games that look indistinguishable from reality'. Nope. Not even close.
Now there's a new moral panick. That games cause sexism and racism. People love using games as punching bags don't they?
@@switchplayer1016 They can be used to spread racist/sexist messages or stereotypes same as any other medium. There's nothing super sexist/racist about most modern games and it seems like most people agree with that. I think THAT moral panic has died down a lot too.
@ShaunDoesMusic hear, hear!!
Bruh look at modern warfare.
Theres a guy on youtube that imitates the reloads of that game but in real life, and honestly, if you look at a picture of a video of that guy and a screenshot of the game side by side, its actually kinda hard to distinguish which is the real one.
Same with some racing games like grand turismo or forza. In some instances, its quite hard to distinguish whether its an screenshot of the game or a photo.
Theres reality-like games already, and with enough processing power and graphics, we could simulate reality on a pc.
I disagree I mean look at red dead redemption 2 is that not close to real life?
They have more imagination than apples new design and programming staff 😅
We did get 3D video games with the Nintendo 3DS, but most people hated the 3D part. Personally, I liked it. It felt like I was being more immersed into the video game. All well...
I enjoyed it too. It was nice.
Hell, I started playing with my 3DS again and I'm finishing Bravely Default.
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@@thesusposter48 I actually don't know
I wonder how different life would be if we had all of this technology back in the 1990s when I grew up?
I want all of Tyler
by 2030 everyone will have a gunphone
Well, they did try making Google Glass and people freaked out about it lol
Most people want holograms like that just so they can play Vulcan Love Slave.
Don't Pon Farr-shame me.
I heard that the tech for holograms exists, but people think holograms are unethical and disrespectful to historical personalities by "bringing them back to life" via hologram.
@@NinaEye that doesn't seem any more disrespectful than wax museum figures tho...
Good reference
But we do have holograms!
They are nearly microscopic but we got them, like we got hoverboards........
....That require liquid nitrogen cooled superconducting magnets and a special metal floor. There's also one that's basically a drone you stand on.
You dont need liquid nitrogen. It can be done by spining the magnets with a motor, though you still need the metal floor.
well a french politician used hologrammes in 2017 for his campaign
Imagine VR contact lenses getting stuck in your eye.
That's honestly my fear. I already had a few times when I still wore contacts of them not wanting to come out
thank god he took his meds and made a relatively normal video
Oh, is that whose fault it is?
Funny. Everyone on AltHistoryHub complains about Tyler being a raving lunatic, but everyone here missing his crackpot videos lol
Holograms as they are depicted in movies can likely only be accomplished via an augmented reality implementation. I recall seeing an AR demo from Microsoft that was very holgram-esque, we're so close and yet so far at the same time, we got the basics down but the refinement process is infinitely more difficult.
Yeah the Hololens by Microsoft is essentially a hologram
As someone who worked at a 'predictive media lab' in the early 2000s - this video glues together all of the more far-out ideas and packages it as if everyone thought this is what the 2010-2020s would be like. They did not. No one in consumer goods actually thought we'd have literal holograms or consumer devices as smart as the human brain. We may have missed the importance of social media and that the phone would be the device we carried with us everywhere but the average company that created electronics had a far more reasonable idea of what the future would be like. And we DO have computers in everything, light bulbs, charging cables, sprinklers, TVs, appliances, cars, headphones--even the cheapest headphones have more processing power than an Apollo moon mission. Just because the extension cord you buy doesn't put 'Now with computer controlled voltage limiter!' on the package doesn't mean it isn't there!
Every video you do is a fascinating bit of happiness that I always wish was way longer! I too wanted those holograms!
“I really wanted that hologram”
…Me too man, me too
The whole light beaming into the eyes thing is actually a technique being employed by multiple companies who are producing AR glasses. They use low power surface emitting lasers to project a HUD directly onto your iris.
I love the production value on these videos.
You put so much effort in the editing and everything looks entertaining to watch
Should I tell him we have PCs in everything, smart microwaves, computerized clothes are a thing, smart rings exist, and I literally seen a smart table when I visited a mate in Tibet last year.
You forgot the part where no one buys those things, except maybe the microwave
@@Lisa_Minci96 people do buy them, if they still exist on the market
@@openlyracist8055 Or companies keep thinking it's a good idea, and going bust and then a new one comes along and noone ever learns from the mistakes.
@@tompatterson1548 Mate companies sell what the markets want. If there's no market, the company stops. You do know that right?
@@openlyracist8055, yet, startups can turn up full of folly and then be driven out of business, only in time for a new startup to take their place.
I really think what people fantasize holograms will be like and how impractical some would be. Like in the new Star Trek series, holograms that are translucent. Which means we can see BEHIND the projection...which can be distracting
We actually do have real holograms. One method is from 2019 and it's called Acoustic Trap Display
props on including the dude from the "Computer Chronicles" - good memories - great video
Hearing someone explain the people of 2000 makes me feel old.
I mean, predictions of widespread VR in 2020 were very innacurate. But like, there are decent $300 headsets you don't even need a computer for. It's certainly not widespread, but it's far far more accessible now than it was for them back then, so they weren't completely off the mark there
Dang, so many of these concepts are a reality in the Shadowrun universe. This video really backs up what they were thinking when they made that setting in the late 80s through the 90s. Lol
The 1990’s: there will be a computer in every lamp and appliance
2020: I mean, mostly, yeah.
I like this calmer version! Thanks! Good stuff!
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Can’t you just have those glasses project a hologram that everybody wearing the same glasses could see and interact with?
Well, yes, but physical "holograms"--volumetric displays--would facilitate seamless collaboration.
Well we're getting close but we have something like that called augmented reality.
Yes that’s how the windows Hololens works when working in groups
@@JacobHollis96 AR died off pretty fast in the early 2010’s. There was a push for it then, but it never really took off. It’s the type of thing included in a device, like 3DS or Vita, that people thought was cool for a day or two, but then never touched again. There would never be enough buy in. And people definitely don’t want to wear tech on their faces.
@@thedapperdolphin1590 I know AR is built into phones as well. I only used it once or twice and it's not as interesting as companies make it out to be. I see where you're getting at though.
2000: "We will have holograms!"
2020: "Hololive. Take it or leave it."
Hey, thanks for fixing the audio for viewers using headphones. Great video!
It was more of computers part 2 then phone, can't wait for the hologram video
Props for using clips from Gate to the Mind's Eye. Those Mind's Eye films are the ultimate retrofuturism.
What 2019 KnowledgeHub fans thought today would be: Tyler's sanity
I had an idea for holograms come to think of it, but it's a rather inelegant solution. So basically, you get these tiny nanobot type things (give or take, they could probably be bigger or smaller as long as it looks fine from a relative distance, say from across the room) that emit light and can fly around. These little devices would operate as a swarm of sorts, and had a "home base" established at their hub, where they would rest, charge, and be evaluated on their individual statuses for repairs, alerting a human to repair or replace any malfunctioning or broken units. They would be able to emit light in different colors and shades, and they'd be operated by a nearby computer that would organize each one to its place for specific movements and shapes, turn their lights on and off or change their color/shade, stuff like that.
The biggest issue I can see is cost of course (those very small units that can fly around ordered in bulk must be expensive), and also power supply (something so small would probably not have a lot of energy for many holograms, wouldn't last very long).
I can see few solutions to cost aside for the streamlining of production over time. As for power supply, I was thinking they might be able to conduct electricity among themselves from a central source they'd hover over (possibly the emitter/controller device) for continuous holograms, either through the air the short distance it would take between units and drawing energy through the power device, or occasionally touching one another to pass along electrical charges also drawn from the central power supply. Either way, it probably wouldn't be safe to touch with bare hands and would need a plug or a very large battery unit.
I've envisioned another type that would just have the little flying drones acting as tiny screens to catch small projections of light, mostly as a way to save power among the units so they don't need to use it to emit light and fly.
Sound would need a separate emission point, I'm not much of a tech guy but I'm pretty sure getting sound that's any kind of acceptable quality wouldn't come from a tiny bot. Thankfully, the emitter for the bots can probably be used for sound emission as well so it's not too far removed from the hologram.
It's really more of a swarm of vaguely insect-sized robots emitting light and it would probably be accompanied by a buzz as they fly about, but it's closer to the sci-fi idea of a hologram in terms of looks, even though it's not a real hologram.
Love these vids
Flexible screens have been a LONG time coming!
I heard a quote somewhere that basically said we underestimate the short term and overestimate the long term. Meaning that we think in 2 or 5 years everything will be basically the same just a tad faster but in like 10 or 20 years we think everything will be totally different and we'll have flying cars and neurallinks
Makes you think what our predictions for 2050 will get wrong.
Like we’re gonna make it to 2050
This is a fascinating series. This is why I always try to scale back my predictions for the near-term when writing science fiction, but also try to remember some stuff is wacky, but not too wacky. For example, our WiFi compared to internet speeds back then. That would be something nuts, but not too overly optimistic. It's why I find past predictions so fascinating--it's interesting to see what people got right and wrong. What are *we* going to right or wrong about?
STMicroelectronics, one of the largest players in a wide array of chip supply, has announced last week that it mid-to-long term strategy will be to phase out the smartphone for AR in Europe, through chips that will have many tiny laser diodes and tiny tiny electromechanical mirrors..
The news was quite a shock at the engineering office I work at, because we thought just like described in this vid that AR like that was wishful dreaming of an age gone by, and STM is like a real big deal
Edit: Also, the first microcontrollers with dedicated neural network hardware have been announced last year for prices in the 4 digits from a British company. That, in combination with the kick-off of Europe's 6G early development project, (based on the approx 10 years between gens) with one of the pillars being terrabyte wireless communication for AI in consumer electronics and large scale edge-computing the coming decades will be interesting indeed
And this is all just what's happening in europe
To think the phone I’m watching this video on is wayyyy faster than the first computer my family had over 20 years ago. I like to imagine handing this iPhone 12 Pro Max to 12 year old me and watching the sheer astonishment 😅
With the right AR implants, you can have that hologram.
I reference Romantically Apocalyptic comics for this.
Good job 👏
Man, 2000s phones were the best. Well, unique and creative for sure. Now every phone is the same
0:28 yo is that Frasier
I'm wondering what would happen if you traveled back in time with your cellphone to a few years ago. what would happen to your cellphone? Would google update or would your phone just crash?
Nothing probably.
Nothing, as in, nothing at all?
@@carblakaman Probably ( as far as the phone working goes ), say 5 years ago, you would probably have to buy phone service but as long as you don't try and update anything it should be fine........until the government gets word that a civilian is using prototype ( at that point in time) cell phone tech, then you would be in trouble, they would probably assume you stole a prototype at first ( corporate espionage ) but once they really start to look through your phone and the phones code they'd realize your from the future. What happens next is probably not good...
Nothing, it'd probably work normal. The way apps get data hasn't changed changed much in the last few years.
I saw that DankPods clip. What a great channel
Came here to see if anyone else saw it, lol
5:38 Oooh, that actually happened here in 2023. It's actually pretty good as a therapist. Damn, they were just off by 3 years.
I love this series
I see the DankPods man at 00:15. I see that you are a man of taste.
2000’s:The future is still bright.
2020:We need to go back,the future is hell and life is sucking more and more every year.
Pretty much
I thought to myself when I was 5 what if phones would be nothing but interactable screens.
13 years later that thought aged very well
Hey Tyler, can you make a whole video about stuff we exceeded the expectations of from people of the past?
We got a LONG way to go before we see in air projection…6dof AR glasses are the closest we’ll come to “holograms” you described for now.
3:15
That phone number is really close to my old one I had, except it was 425-344 instead of 415
I love the Lawnmower Man clips
Your vids are top tier
yooo nice video
0:15 i recognize the hand holding that nugget!
We’re in the 4th era of Knowledge Hub: tech rants
This was really good
Not surprised Tyler used a discussion about VR as an opportunity to use Lawnmower Man clips.
0:54 The struggle to open that phone was crazy...?
I remember playing hologram fighting games at the arcade in the early 90s.
Your content reminds me of the “actually” guy at parties
I love how you seem to not know where they were going with some ideas either....or where they came from^^
I love it, I grew up in the 90s, saw a lot of the later "what will 2000 be like" and of course all the 2020 hype. If only we had known...
I gotta find that outro music that bops pretty good
He is talking about the 2000s like they were before our time...
Someone who's under 20 years old wouldn't have been alive in the year 2000.
0:15
That's one bad nugget, mate
Just when you mentioned virtual reality I got an ad about a shooting game and I thought for a couple secons you were talking about virtual war LMAO
"What is more efficient than just saying what you're thinking and having the machine do the rest for you?" - Ah, that's an easy one. When the machine knows what you were thinking without you even having to say anything! We're actually well on our way towards achieving this LOVELY DREAM.
What they did absolutely nail with all these predictions is that the line between our "real lives" and "virtual lives" would blur
I totally remember playing that blocky VR game back in the '90s. The gameplay was awkward as the tracking senors were too sensitive, and the head gear was heavy with much of the weight over the eyes. Damn thing was a literal pain in the neck! I think the game was $5 to play for a short time -- a lot of money for an arcade game for the time.
0:15 Dankpod gloves right there. Holding a very stinky nugget.
i still want full dive vr tbh
All I wanted was a hoverboard.
No, not one of those stupid half-a-Segway things that everyone was calling “hoverboards” a few years ago, I wanted the real thing. I knew that it wasn’t likely (at least not 1:1 with BTTF, which seems to operate on some sort of anti-gravity nonsense), but a guy could dream. Maybe someday, maglev will get good enough that we can have something like bumper cars or trolleybuses that float: run electricity overhead for the onboard magnets and put the other magnets under the pavement.
Hoverboards exist. They just require a special surface to skate on to create the 'hover' effect. IIRC Tony Hawk rode one.
@@Otome_chan311 Yeah, but you said it yourself: they require a special surface. That’s basically what I was describing with my hover trolley idea.
That idea of the clear phone, we gotta bring that concept back.
Where do you get that sick music from?
Fingerprint locks were featured in the film "2012" as a luxury for billionaires. In our timeline, they became standard issue a few years later.
I want that watch!
8:28 cue that E1M1 remix! Goddamn do I love your music, Tyler!
Are you sure that's it ? I've been searching the outro song but can't find it
@@UltraMathi That's it! It's on his SoundCloud, here's a link soundcloud.com/user-503704039/e1m1-frasier-enters
@@aspin-the-askal Oh thank you SO MUCH, I was still thinking about it ! i only searched on youtube, couldn't find anything
Ooh I can't wait for you to talk about HoloLens!