Im a bit confused here, u said mercy don't work vs physical dmg and then u said u want them when u lure multiple mobs in a cave. Im pretty sure all mobs and bosses deal physical dmg maybe except in DR. I've tested elite mercy(12X6) against mobs, in cave and in duel. Against mobs in and out of cave they dont work at all (didnt test in DR) and in duel they dont work properly. In the first duel without mercy i received *44881* total dmg in *14hits* . In the second duel with elite mercy i received *44630* total dmg in *14hits* . So mercy only absorbed *251 dmg* in 14hits even tho they should've absorbed *1008dmg* (14x72) . Am i doing something wrong? I expected you to test the numbers against mobs or pvp in this video...
Good points,now regards of mobs in caves yes,most of caves do attack with physical hits however there is decent portion of caves where mobs will do in fact only magic dmg...you can recognize it by seeing how often you block/dodge or not. As far as duels go the sets dmg modifiers at this point are too high to make noticeable difference with mercy's on...this is why i never mentioned them being good for pvp especially in your case when you used elites as mercy inlays effect gets modified if you recieve modified hit(this is why mobs don't have modified dmg)and what i mean by that is that every dmg hit you do you have a roughly 10% variable of number going up and down...you can notice it if you follow a few hits in a row that number will never be the same and for that reason mercys only do matter if you take a ton of hits in pvp which i gave example of phoenix city sealers...more hits you take=more difference mercy will make. In duel you take maybe 30 hits max so its normal that they have lesser impact...hope it cleared out some things
Sure I agree in phoenix war mercy gems are better but anywhere else they feel worthless. I don't think the frequency of dodged/blocked hits correlates with the type of dmg. Name the caves where mobs deal only magic dmg or prove it by using the mercy gems. If you receive less dmg with mercy on then yeah they deal magic dmg. Proving it on paper doesn't mean it works in execution. Thats why i said i expected you to show the numbers against mobs/bosses in caves
@@DingYin Dodge & block are exclusive only to physical hits so if they trigger even once it means that those attacks are physical... Best example of it is in duel... Not once you can dodge or block a magic hit... Only a physical hits from assassin's & monk(since they are only ones using it due to stamina recharge)so detecting blockable hit in caves & duels is same & more than obvious to spot. As far as testing mercys for which caves they work I'd have to make a completely separate video since goal of this video as just general understanding how they work as alot of people refused to even try to test the waters where they would work and just went with what majority would way. If I have to give example which cave mobs do magic dmg I would say DR & PRS would be 2 obvious ones as both caves have mobs that attack with both types of dmg
@@P4r4lyz3r yeah i know when a hit is blocked/dodged is physical dmg, u said how often u see block/dodge which confused me. The frequency has nothing to do with the type of dmg. If u just see block/dodge once then its physical dmg.
Some mobs/elites have 2 attack animations which means potentially both types of dmg... It's not always the case but for some mobs it is the case which results them having both types of dmg
guys, if u want to know what inlays is better in duel, just go to TF serve and tell to them make some duels vs any acc of the leader of brasil guild, he has full mercy prem and hp prem inlays, i think mercy is better when you duel full+12 vs full+12 ... callhim in world chat and u will see
If you can make mercy work in duel or in pk go for it, but it's way harder to make it useful in those situations as mercy requires you to take bunch of hits to start making difference... Then again if you have high enough mercy like Mystic or prem and you see difference then sure stay with them. But yes vigor in the end will increase you under 4k HP total once you are full +12 and you have all prem vigors...
Very bad logic from experience the majority of duels I have lost, are to very low hp 2-5k at most. That full mystic hp set can win you the duel. Super not so much of a difference to me but I would never use mercy that low
@SuperNatural001 I am not a Pvp player at all so I was going from collected data of experiences from people that actively duel... And little to say everyone are disappointed in vigor
Hp much better to both situations. Mercy only absorb a little of dmg. And one more detail: since mortal inlays is the standard meta, mortal inlays ignore any deff including absorb. So it’s not worth’s.
I appreciate the opinion but I would strongly disagree because mercys perform way better in caves than amount which vigor gives. Only reason mortals are relevant is because they work best if you attack same lvl target. As you start to attack lower lvl targets your % for mortal hits goes down accordingly until you eventually lose ability to do mortal crits. I can see your point of view however I would recommend you to experiment and see for yourself.
@@P4r4lyz3r I agree with you in some points, but absorb dmg seems shine only vs mobs. Boss in caves has a lot of debuffs, poison and ways to make this inlay useless. Thats why mercy is not popular. Vigor is mutch more flexible.
@@TheSimitarBeastTO It takes alot of testing to point out really which is better when... This is just for a general knowledge when which inlays potential works most optimal
Mercy dmg absorb is the same elemental damage in new amulets. The numbers are not real. You don't get the actual dmg decrease from mercy or damage increase from amulets as it is stated.
It has been tested by myself and few other people already... Mercys do decrease elem. Dmg it's just harder to see sometimes because every weapon has 10% variable in dmg going up and down
Premium is +54 x6 is 330 if you count this random 10% number that you somehow made up. There still is no difference to see 330 difference with premium mercy in battle vs hp or no inlay.
330 dmg is nice you would think in pvp. So many hits. Let's say a duel does a low number of 20 hits. Thats 6600dmg so you would think those who use mercy would do better than those with Vigor when premium Vigor is like 4k hp. That's being very conservative with the mercy stats. However this dmg absorb description is not actual. Just like elemental damage on new amulet. I believe new amulet is like something crazy 400 or 700 elemental damage each. I made it on my fairy and had maybe a 200 difference. My monks shovel dmg went up about 300dmg only. With CS dmg being about 800. It's fake news.
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Im a bit confused here, u said mercy don't work vs physical dmg and then u said u want them when u lure multiple mobs in a cave. Im pretty sure all mobs and bosses deal physical dmg maybe except in DR. I've tested elite mercy(12X6) against mobs, in cave and in duel. Against mobs in and out of cave they dont work at all (didnt test in DR) and in duel they dont work properly.
In the first duel without mercy i received *44881* total dmg in *14hits* . In the second duel with elite mercy i received *44630* total dmg in *14hits* . So mercy only absorbed *251 dmg* in 14hits even tho they should've absorbed *1008dmg* (14x72) . Am i doing something wrong? I expected you to test the numbers against mobs or pvp in this video...
Good points,now regards of mobs in caves yes,most of caves do attack with physical hits however there is decent portion of caves where mobs will do in fact only magic dmg...you can recognize it by seeing how often you block/dodge or not.
As far as duels go the sets dmg modifiers at this point are too high to make noticeable difference with mercy's on...this is why i never mentioned them being good for pvp especially in your case when you used elites as mercy inlays effect gets modified if you recieve modified hit(this is why mobs don't have modified dmg)and what i mean by that is that every dmg hit you do you have a roughly 10% variable of number going up and down...you can notice it if you follow a few hits in a row that number will never be the same and for that reason mercys only do matter if you take a ton of hits in pvp which i gave example of phoenix city sealers...more hits you take=more difference mercy will make. In duel you take maybe 30 hits max so its normal that they have lesser impact...hope it cleared out some things
Sure I agree in phoenix war mercy gems are better but anywhere else they feel worthless. I don't think the frequency of dodged/blocked hits correlates with the type of dmg. Name the caves where mobs deal only magic dmg or prove it by using the mercy gems. If you receive less dmg with mercy on then yeah they deal magic dmg. Proving it on paper doesn't mean it works in execution. Thats why i said i expected you to show the numbers against mobs/bosses in caves
@@DingYin Dodge & block are exclusive only to physical hits so if they trigger even once it means that those attacks are physical... Best example of it is in duel... Not once you can dodge or block a magic hit... Only a physical hits from assassin's & monk(since they are only ones using it due to stamina recharge)so detecting blockable hit in caves & duels is same & more than obvious to spot. As far as testing mercys for which caves they work I'd have to make a completely separate video since goal of this video as just general understanding how they work as alot of people refused to even try to test the waters where they would work and just went with what majority would way. If I have to give example which cave mobs do magic dmg I would say DR & PRS would be 2 obvious ones as both caves have mobs that attack with both types of dmg
@@P4r4lyz3r yeah i know when a hit is blocked/dodged is physical dmg, u said how often u see block/dodge which confused me. The frequency has nothing to do with the type of dmg. If u just see block/dodge once then its physical dmg.
Some mobs/elites have 2 attack animations which means potentially both types of dmg... It's not always the case but for some mobs it is the case which results them having both types of dmg
guys, if u want to know what inlays is better in duel, just go to TF serve and tell to them make some duels vs any acc of the leader of brasil guild, he has full mercy prem and hp prem inlays, i think mercy is better when you duel full+12 vs full+12 ... callhim in world chat and u will see
Yea I have noticed that alot of players in TF went for mercys which honestly surprised me
I use Mystic Mercy on my assassin, i believe it's way better than Few k hp since in pk or duel, when i stun first i can clear that difference fast.
If you can make mercy work in duel or in pk go for it, but it's way harder to make it useful in those situations as mercy requires you to take bunch of hits to start making difference... Then again if you have high enough mercy like Mystic or prem and you see difference then sure stay with them. But yes vigor in the end will increase you under 4k HP total once you are full +12 and you have all prem vigors...
Very bad logic from experience the majority of duels I have lost, are to very low hp 2-5k at most. That full mystic hp set can win you the duel. Super not so much of a difference to me but I would never use mercy that low
But you lose duel to all Erick so that's why
@SuperNatural001 I am not a Pvp player at all so I was going from collected data of experiences from people that actively duel... And little to say everyone are disappointed in vigor
@@P4r4lyz3r and I am a pvp player so I can use my experience to say otherwise.
Hp much better to both situations. Mercy only absorb a little of dmg. And one more detail: since mortal inlays is the standard meta, mortal inlays ignore any deff including absorb. So it’s not worth’s.
I appreciate the opinion but I would strongly disagree because mercys perform way better in caves than amount which vigor gives. Only reason mortals are relevant is because they work best if you attack same lvl target. As you start to attack lower lvl targets your % for mortal hits goes down accordingly until you eventually lose ability to do mortal crits. I can see your point of view however I would recommend you to experiment and see for yourself.
@@P4r4lyz3r I agree with you in some points, but absorb dmg seems shine only vs mobs. Boss in caves has a lot of debuffs, poison and ways to make this inlay useless. Thats why mercy is not popular. Vigor is mutch more flexible.
@@TheSimitarBeastTO It takes alot of testing to point out really which is better when... This is just for a general knowledge when which inlays potential works most optimal
very good! thank you for info man 👍
Hope you found it helpful
Mercy dmg absorb is the same elemental damage in new amulets. The numbers are not real. You don't get the actual dmg decrease from mercy or damage increase from amulets as it is stated.
It has been tested by myself and few other people already... Mercys do decrease elem. Dmg it's just harder to see sometimes because every weapon has 10% variable in dmg going up and down
@@P4r4lyz3r but not by the numbers they say.
Premium is +54 x6 is 330 if you count this random 10% number that you somehow made up. There still is no difference to see 330 difference with premium mercy in battle vs hp or no inlay.
330 dmg is nice you would think in pvp. So many hits. Let's say a duel does a low number of 20 hits. Thats 6600dmg so you would think those who use mercy would do better than those with Vigor when premium Vigor is like 4k hp. That's being very conservative with the mercy stats. However this dmg absorb description is not actual. Just like elemental damage on new amulet. I believe new amulet is like something crazy 400 or 700 elemental damage each. I made it on my fairy and had maybe a 200 difference. My monks shovel dmg went up about 300dmg only. With CS dmg being about 800. It's fake news.
@@SuperNatural001 number is not random, every dmg hit has chance to walk 10% up and down, if you follow your hits you will notice
Thanks so much!
No problem, hope you found it informative